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Grapesoda · 04-03-2022, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FapperX

Best choice, even most of the Turkish people does the same thing. Trying to move Europe.

I would hate to be in your position I don't know what I would do.

Klen · 04-04-2022, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by leming

Yep, It make a sense )
Will create new one
Thanx

And thread which you opened before how you offer learning Russian does not help either

And also, do you do UX design ?

NALEM · 04-04-2022, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by leming

Yep, It make a sense )
Will create new one
Thanx

Quick comment ...

I had to look up Kommisar, to confirm its meaning.
From public perception, for sake of business, I do agree with the others that you may want to consider replacing the nickname and avatar.

Maybe you are Russian, who was living or born in Ukraine. It is in your best interest to keep a low profile, and do not openly advertise yourself as Russian. "Strangers" are very divided, and some are dangerously stupid. However when choosing your community, and the people you are going to socialize or do business with, do not hide who you are. Carefully choose to be around those people who are tolerant and in fact open minded right now, during this crisis, as to not hate all Russians.

Recently I was at a restaurant in California, with half the clients Russians and the other half Ukrainian. Here there was common support for one another. However in another group, a few older Russians living in the USA came out in support of Putin. They have a right to their opinion, but WTF. They are living fantastic life in the USA, and can be brainwashed by their choice of media, CNN, FOX, RussianTV, etc. And they without shame openly told everyone there position on the invasion. Very fast they became isolated small group. Honestly its good for everyone. No reason to hate, but I believe that you should only keep friends, family and business partners who have a similar opinion as your own.

Okay back to work!

Sergio · 04-04-2022, 11:42 AM

Thanks everyone for the info, I'll take it into account. Regarding Mexico, it’s probably not worth it right now to fly so far for a long time, moreover, I doubt that it will be possible to get through to the embassy of our country there, and also at least get some kind accommodation there. Mexico is cool for Digital nomads but not for Ukrainian refugee IMO

As for people who do not understand what is happening, I do not see much sense for myself to explain something to them. Apparently their brain is already so leaked with poison that these are irreversible changes.

Tasty1 · 04-04-2022, 01:09 PM

If you can work with your hands construction, installing solar panels etcetra. There are plenty of jobs now in Holland. Also ICT mustn't be a big problem, everyone speaks English and international orientated. And bars and restaurants also need all the help they can get. For now, when there is a crisis these alcohol business go bancrupt first. Housing is the problem.

And for sure i wouldn't let my family and children go alone to Europe, in a refugee camp with young Syrian and Afghan men and former IS military. I would have left also, not want to die for someone elses dreams or stupidity and political mess.

Mexico and Brazil are great if you work online of have capital to invest. I would make sure i was around the EU to be able to get EU residency first if i was with a family. But hurry, i think housing will be a problem in whole Europe soon. In Greece there are refugees in camps for years.

Manfap · 04-05-2022, 02:36 AM

Can you qualify as a refugee, when in theory you were not allowed to leave the country?

jamezon · 04-05-2022, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Manfap

Can you qualify as a refugee, when in theory you were not allowed to leave the country?

your concern is right, to be honest those ukraine ambassadors in europe are so encroaching , that as a ukraine male i would be afraid that one given day ,they send males back to the conflict zone in uniform......hower atm moment no western eu country is refusing male ukraines

leming · 04-05-2022, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tasty1

Canary Islands, Playa del Ingles, must be able to find something and not so expensive.
Netherlands maybe Lelystad, Amersfoort, Hilversum, Zwolle or way North to leeuwarden most houses available. But you need the refugee route to get social housing within a few years, else you must rent in private sector (800 euro and more + 150 energy + 50 internet). If you are refugee and get a big social house you pay around 750 euro, but the government also pays around 250 for you if you dont make enough money. That would be the econmic best route for Holland, become jobless, social wellfare, get a cheap house. And than find work or start a company. Else you only qualify for expensive houses when you already have a job. Than you are working, but not making more money cause you have to pay for everything.

The longer you wait, the longer the waiting list. Cause everyone is looking for houses, when a house is for sale it is sold within 2 weeks. Social housing cost in amsterdam and other cities 5 - 20 years, except if you are refugee.. A refugee could with some luck get a house for 750 a month you would normally pay 1500 - 2500 or more in private sector in for example Hilversum. The government won't support you with the 750 euro rent when you have a good job, but 750 is better than 1500.. Also when you have a job you pay around 400 euro insurance for a family, on social welfare only 150.

Thanx for detailed information man, it will help a lot to make the final decision!

leming · 04-05-2022, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboB

OP - you are a little bit strange by being Ukrainian and using one of the biggest Russian Nazi as avatar.

Yup, I know )
So now I changed it to a picture of my cat using the human's toilet bowl

NALEM · 04-05-2022, 09:16 AM

From one old man to another ...

Happy Birrrrrthday

leming · 04-05-2022, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by FapperX

Best choice, even most of the Turkish people does the same thing. Trying to move Europe.

Sad, but true...

leming · 04-05-2022, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta

Good luck.
This situation is sad...

Thanx man

leming · 04-05-2022, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

I would hate to be in your position I don't know what I would do.

I hope no one won't go through an experience like that...

leming · 04-05-2022, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen

And thread which you opened before how you offer learning Russian does not help either

Yep )))

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Originally Posted by Klen

do you do UX design ?

Yes, I do.

leming · 04-05-2022, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by NALEM

Quick comment ...

I had to look up Kommisar, to confirm its meaning.
From public perception, for sake of business, I do agree with the others that you may want to consider replacing the nickname and avatar.

Maybe you are Russian, who was living or born in Ukraine. It is in your best interest to keep a low profile, and do not openly advertise yourself as Russian. "Strangers" are very divided, and some are dangerously stupid. However when choosing your community, and the people you are going to socialize or do business with, do not hide who you are. Carefully choose to be around those people who are tolerant and in fact open minded right now, during this crisis, as to not hate all Russians.

Recently I was at a restaurant in California, with half the clients Russians and the other half Ukrainian. Here there was common support for one another. However in another group, a few older Russians living in the USA came out in support of Putin. They have a right to their opinion, but WTF. They are living fantastic life in the USA, and can be brainwashed by their choice of media, CNN, FOX, RussianTV, etc. And they without shame openly told everyone there position on the invasion. Very fast they became isolated small group. Honestly its good for everyone. No reason to hate, but I believe that you should only keep friends, family and business partners who have a similar opinion as your own.

Okay back to work!

I was choosing my online identity and branding about 20 years ago.
Seems, that it's time to renew it ;)

leming · 04-05-2022, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tasty1

If you can work with your hands construction, installing solar panels etcetra. There are plenty of jobs now in Holland. Also ICT mustn't be a big problem, everyone speaks English and international orientated. And bars and restaurants also need all the help they can get. For now, when there is a crisis these alcohol business go bancrupt first. Housing is the problem.

And for sure i wouldn't let my family and children go alone to Europe, in a refugee camp with young Syrian and Afghan men and former IS military. I would have left also, not want to die for someone elses dreams or stupidity and political mess.

Mexico and Brazil are great if you work online of have capital to invest. I would make sure i was around the EU to be able to get EU residency first if i was with a family. But hurry, i think housing will be a problem in whole Europe soon. In Greece there are refugees in camps for years.

I'm not this kind of guy...
My hands used to press buttons on keyboards and cameras )))

leming · 04-05-2022, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NALEM

From one old man to another ...

Happy Birrrrrthday

Today isn’t my birthday

But thanx in advance, I'll keep your greeting till the right date )))

NALEM · 04-05-2022, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by leming

Today isn’t my birthday

But thanx in advance, I'll keep your greeting till the right date )))

OMG, I meant to post this in a different thread for Colin, as FB notification stated it was his birthday today.

Well in advance, Happy Birthday to you as well.

Sexier · 04-06-2022, 01:14 AM

Your best bet for now is to try and move to Czech and work online from there. Rent for an apartment in a small village around Prague is not expensive and government even helps you with that. I think they are giving 400 euro/ month for 3 months.

k0nr4d · 04-06-2022, 04:43 AM

Dunno how much truth there is in this but supposedly a law was introduced in UA that any male that left the country during war will face 5-10 years in prison if they return.

leming · 04-06-2022, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by NALEM

Well in advance, Happy Birthday to you as well.

Thanks! )

leming · 04-06-2022, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sexier

Your best bet for now is to try and move to Czech and work online from there. Rent for an apartment in a small village around Prague is not expensive and government even helps you with that. I think they are giving 400 euro/ month for 3 months.

Yep, seems that I'll stick to this option

leming · 04-06-2022, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Dunno how much truth there is in this but supposedly a law was introduced in UA that any male that left the country during war will face 5-10 years in prison if they return.

Yep. If they will return.

I was lucky enough to remain alive when the missile came to my home.

Should I test my fate again and give my life to the government, defending a home I don't have anymore?

k0nr4d · 04-06-2022, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by leming

Yep, seems that I'll stick to this option

If you're going to go to CZ, may as well stay in Poland really

leming · 04-06-2022, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

If you're going to go to CZ, may as well stay in Poland really

Poland is the perfect option, but Czech is more adult-business oriented ;)

Tasty1 · 04-06-2022, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by leming

Yep. If they will return.

I was lucky enough to remain alive when the missile came to my home.

Should I test my fate again and give my life to the government, defending a home I don't have anymore?

And they might even expect that you keep paying the mortgage of that house when you return.
CZ or Poland sounds easiest choice for the moment.

k0nr4d · 04-06-2022, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by leming

Poland is the perfect option, but Czech is more adult-business oriented ;)

I've lived here in Poland many years and never had any problems with my adult business

leming · 04-09-2022, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

I've lived here in Poland many years and never had any problems with my adult business

Is it legal in Poland?

k0nr4d · 04-09-2022, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by leming

Is it legal in Poland?

Yeah of course. Only child porn (under 15), bestiality and rape porn is illegal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornog..._Europe#Poland

Art. 202.

§ 1. Whoever publicly presents pornographic content in such a way that it may impose their receipt on a person who does not wish to do so, shall be subject to a fine, the penalty of restriction of liberty or the penalty of deprivation of liberty for up to one year.

§ 2. Anyone who presents pornographic content to a minor under the age of 15 or provides him with items of such nature, or distributes pornographic content in such a way as to enable such a minor to become acquainted with it, shall be subject to a fine, the penalty of restriction of liberty or the penalty of deprivation of liberty for up to 2 years.

§ 3. Who for the purpose of dissemination produces, records or imports, stores or possesses or distributes or publicly presents pornographic content involving a minor or pornographic content related to the presentation of violence or the use of an animal, shall be subject to the penalty of deprivation of liberty for a term of between 6 months and 8 years.

§ 4. Whoever records pornographic content involving a minor under the age of 15, shall be subject to the penalty of deprivation of liberty for a term of between one and 10 years.

§ 4a. Whoever imports, stores or possesses pornographic content involving a minor under the age of 15, shall be subject to the penalty of deprivation of liberty for a term of between 3 months and 5 years.

§ 4b. Whoever produces, distributes, presents, stores or possesses pornographic content presenting the created or processed image of a minor participating in sexual activity shall be subject to a fine, the penalty of restriction of liberty or the penalty of deprivation of liberty for up to 2 years.

§ 5. The court may order the forfeiture of tools or other items that were used or were intended to commit the offenses specified in § 1-4b, even if they were not the property of the perpetrator.

CaptainHowdy · 04-09-2022, 03:38 PM

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