Tech RIP adult biz

[lockept93]

https://pornpen.ai/feed

The machine is running...

[Mr Pheer]

Some see the end, I see new opportunity

[lockept93]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Some see the end, I see new opportunity

I know - just provoking.
It is also adult biz. It is porn. Just a tool that will have faster impact than most expect. Follow this whole AI stuff since 2-3 years and the steps are made are crazy. In 5 years I'm sure we will have real looking porn scenes. (I assume.)

[Beaver1]

With all the face and beauty filters from Onlyfans I hardly ever get a hard cock anymore
and certainly not at something like this!

Greetings Beaver

[plsureking]

that site is a fucking mess

it will be interesting to see once they figure out the user experience..

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[NatalieK]

AI great for a bit of fun, real life porn will always sell

[King Mark]

They need to fix that ever-updating home page. It's annoying.

[lockept93]

Originally Posted by plsureking

that site is a fucking mess

it will be interesting to see once they figure out the user experience..

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Over 7k Patreons each pay 16€ - for the short time of existing it doesnt look the users dont like it.

Originally Posted by King Mark

They need to fix that ever-updating home page. It's annoying.

This feed shows all generations people make free on the website. The paying users creations are not visible there (with inpainting and detail fixing the polished results are not bad).
But yes a lot of funny things to discover on this feed

[ZTT]

By far the best producing sites I've done were the ones thrown together in five seconds that looked like shit. In fact everything looked like shit about 20 years ago. They just did what they were supposed to do.

The 'user experience' here is users create their own porn on one of the first AI porn generators without loads of ads and popups (well, in theory; in reality they get a 'server overloaded, please pay money' message).

So while some people laugh at the site, as some people did with 'horseless carriages', the site is just laughing all the way to the bank.

It was created by a developer with AFAIK nothing to do with 'adult'.

The industry that supposedly pushes technical innovation will probably wake up to porn AIs in about 2029.

[lockept93]

[DVTimes]

I think it is fun.

But people still want to see real people.

[ANAL PASTE]

Can someone write parcer for their image feed? I'll buy it.

https://pornpen.ai/feed

[ANAL PASTE]

Crazy good images. I am getting married to her

[lockept93]

Originally Posted by ANAL PASTE

Crazy good images. I am getting married to her

Just beware what size of ring u need.

[King Mark]

[ZTT]

Think I may have found my new avatar.

[lockept93]

Honestly, could it be a new niche born right now?
Weird AI porn.

[ZTT]

Originally Posted by lockept93

Weird AI porn.

I mean I love his parody records but...

[brassmonkey]

thanx!

[Colmike9]

Some court just ruled that AI art can not be copyrighted, so if you make this content, be ready for massive amounts of "stolen content" that you can't do anything about.

[the_software_dev]

Originally Posted by Colmike9

Some court just ruled that AI art can not be copyrighted, so if you make this content, be ready for massive amounts of "stolen content" that you can't do anything about.

Source? As far as I know this is a really hot topic in the AI community. There's a lawsuit going against Stable Diffusion for copyrighted work of artists, but at this point we don't have any court rule.

[Colmike9]

Originally Posted by the_software_dev

Source? As far as I know this is a really hot topic in the AI community. There's a lawsuit going against Stable Diffusion for copyrighted work of artists, but at this point we don't have any court rule.

Fortune.com said that the US Copyright Office said no. So it wasn't a court ruling, sorry, but still.

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by lockept93

Over 7k Patreons each pay 16€ - for the short time of existing it doesnt look the users dont like it.h

Patreon allows porn now? that's the interesting part if true.

every site can use improvement. sales don't change that fact.

as i said looks interesting.

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[mikeet]

Well im seeing a big run around here so looks like a big smash n grab to me until furhter notice

[ZTT]

Originally Posted by plsureking

Patreon allows porn now? that's the interesting part if true.

Nah, the most interesting part is still that this guy is raking in $130k per month (and rapidly rising) from a site he started six months ago.

He had 7k+ subscribers when lockept93 posted yesterday. He's now on 9k+. By next week, 30k+? That's half a million dollars per month.

If the open site violates Patreon policies he can make changes, filter to create only soft stuff for free, which will only increase signups, or get a new biller and/or use crypto.

He has momentum now, first mover advantage, a ton of money, and eventually will sell (or should sell, because nothing lasts forever) for two commas to the first big operator, in or outside 'adult', that wakes up to the vast potential of porn AIs, but doesn't want to start from the ground up.

I have no interest in what his site actually does on the surface, spew out boatloads of AI porn per second with zero value other than occasional novelty/comedy factor, but what he's done technically is highly impressive and very handily exposes the crazy money that can be made from doing porn AIs. (I mean real ones, not just slapping "AI" on a Wordpress script, though maybe that works too.)

[ruff]

Originally Posted by King Mark

They need to fix that ever-updating home page. It's annoying.

So this is the future? That woman is my 5th grade teacher. I knew she was a slut!

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by ZTT

Nah, the most interesting part is still that this guy is raking in $130k per month (and rapidly rising) from a site he started six months ago.

He had 7k+ subscribers when lockept93 posted yesterday. He's now on 9k+. By next week, 30k+? That's half a million dollars per month.

If the open site violates Patreon policies he can make changes, filter to create only soft stuff for free, which will only increase signups, or get a new biller and/or use crypto.

He has momentum now, first mover advantage, a ton of money, and eventually will sell (or should sell, because nothing lasts forever) for two commas to the first big operator, in or outside 'adult', that wakes up to the vast potential of porn AIs, but doesn't want to start from the ground up.

I have no interest in what his site actually does on the surface, spew out boatloads of AI porn per second with zero value other than occasional novelty/comedy factor, but what he's done technically is highly impressive and very handily exposes the crazy money that can be made from doing porn AIs. (I mean real ones, not just slapping "AI" on a Wordpress script, though maybe that works too.)

there's definitely a money incentive

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[adultchatpay]

AI is fun.. but we all want the real one.

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by lockept93

https://pornpen.ai/feed

The machine is running...

Wait and see what happens.

I've lived through several of these 'it's all going to end' scenarios. Lately, they just seem to turn into niche markets. Porn Masturbators tend to have meltdowns about stuff that's 'not real.' I can't say for certain what's going to happen but I've got the feeling that having to jerk off to an AI is going to be a hardon killer for a lot of them.

[lockept93]

Originally Posted by Colmike9

Fortune.com said that the US Copyright Office said no. So it wasn't a court ruling, sorry, but still.

Not exactly. The story is that someone make a novel with AI images. The result is that the whole book can be copyrighted (incl. the images) and the text alone, BUT not the images alone. The reason is cause they said the copyright office is not in the position to decide this and we all need to wait for the "big" law results about stable diffusion, midjournes and so on.

So u can publish a book with AI images and u can copyright it as whole object, but if someone use just a picture from it, you can't do anything about that - so far.

[ZTT]

Originally Posted by plsureking

there's definitely a money incentive

Excuse the following novel, but I'm actually pretty mind-blown by just how much money is involved here, considering it's early days and a relatively small simple site producing worthless pictures, and in how much potential porn AIs have the more I think about it.

I mean if you ever rued the switchover from fat hairy bellies, mustaches and sideburns to plastic tits, hairspray and bleach, you could relive the glory days of porn with AIs from companies with 60s and 70s archives.

With training on material from a particular porn star, users could create more of that model, to their heart's content.

You could put 21st century pornstars into 1970s settings, or vice versa.

(All with official approval and royalties duly paid to the models, of course, because ethics, apart from being the right thing to do, is also the smart thing in today's social media world).

Any porn star, genre, type, 60s, 70s, hard, soft, medium, rare can be re/created. When video AI is more established, cam models could train AIs on all the recordings of themselves out there and retire, with their fans having an endless supply of content they get to direct.

One thing content owners should not make the mistake of doing is trying to produce their own 'new' material from old and trying to sell it. That's dinosaur thinking.

The fun and attraction of porn AIs, as Pornpen shows, is users having the freedom to create their own stuff the way they want it. For most it's probably not even about making something to jack off over, but just messing around, or a creative/artistic exercise.

If I was a CEO at Big Porn, with a lot of content in the vaults, I'd already be on the phone to Pornpen to talk about licensing or otherwise using the tech, preferably exclusively, the way Microsoft did with ChatGPT.

(And I'd definitely give whoever posted such an idea in forum at least 10% of such a deal.)

[lockept93]

Originally Posted by ZTT

Excuse the following novel, but I'm actually pretty mind-blown by just how much money is involved here, considering it's early days and a relatively small simple site producing worthless pictures, and in how much potential porn AIs have the more I think about it.

I mean if you ever rued the switchover from fat hairy bellies, mustaches and sideburns to plastic tits, hairspray and bleach, you could relive the glory days of porn with AIs from companies with 60s and 70s archives.

With training on material from a particular porn star, users could create more of that model, to their heart's content.

You could put 21st century pornstars into 1970s settings, or vice versa.

(All with official approval and royalties duly paid to the models, of course, because ethics, apart from being the right thing to do, is also the smart thing in today's social media world).

Any porn star, genre, type, 60s, 70s, hard, soft, medium, rare can be re/created. When video AI is more established, cam models could train AIs on all the recordings of themselves out there and retire, with their fans having an endless supply of content they get to direct.

One thing content owners should not make the mistake of doing is trying to produce their own 'new' material from old and trying to sell it. That's dinosaur thinking.

The fun and attraction of porn AIs, as Pornpen shows, is users having the freedom to create their own stuff the way they want it. For most it's probably not even about making something to jack off over, but just messing around, or a creative/artistic exercise.

If I was a CEO at Big Porn, with a lot of content in the vaults, I'd already be on the phone to Pornpen to talk about licensing or otherwise using the tech, preferably exclusively, the way Microsoft did with ChatGPT.

(And I'd definitely give whoever posted such an idea in forum at least 10% of such a deal.)

The reason for this "chaos" is that these technologies are based on open source - so you can train your own AI models, you can train your own AI writing. In the past new technologies are hold by tech firms and the ways they expand are more or less under control. The current AI situation is like someone opened the pandoras box and whithin one year so many different markets get infected without having proper time to prepare for that and need make fast heavy decisions. Look at Artstation, their whole userbase gets riot cause AI images are flooding the market - users force them to ban AI but as big company u don't want close yourself out of new technologies and markets and u see your competitors go with it.

Yes the main reason for the rise is the user experience to make something own - nobody is on the point yet to say, AI images are better than real ones - but the feeling to do not NEED someone else to "produce" something with boobies you can watch - that's a form of getting "power". It's abstract yes. I also believe it's a lot of hype now where everyone want try it and it makes just fun and its something new. Also this hype will be gone and then it will be a normal tool.

[BobJones123]

Normal...

[Klen]

Originally Posted by ZTT

Excuse the following novel, but I'm actually pretty mind-blown by just how much money is involved here, considering it's early days and a relatively small simple site producing worthless pictures, and in how much potential porn AIs have the more I think about it.

I mean if you ever rued the switchover from fat hairy bellies, mustaches and sideburns to plastic tits, hairspray and bleach, you could relive the glory days of porn with AIs from companies with 60s and 70s archives.

With training on material from a particular porn star, users could create more of that model, to their heart's content.

You could put 21st century pornstars into 1970s settings, or vice versa.

(All with official approval and royalties duly paid to the models, of course, because ethics, apart from being the right thing to do, is also the smart thing in today's social media world).

Any porn star, genre, type, 60s, 70s, hard, soft, medium, rare can be re/created. When video AI is more established, cam models could train AIs on all the recordings of themselves out there and retire, with their fans having an endless supply of content they get to direct.

One thing content owners should not make the mistake of doing is trying to produce their own 'new' material from old and trying to sell it. That's dinosaur thinking.

The fun and attraction of porn AIs, as Pornpen shows, is users having the freedom to create their own stuff the way they want it. For most it's probably not even about making something to jack off over, but just messing around, or a creative/artistic exercise.

If I was a CEO at Big Porn, with a lot of content in the vaults, I'd already be on the phone to Pornpen to talk about licensing or otherwise using the tech, preferably exclusively, the way Microsoft did with ChatGPT.

(And I'd definitely give whoever posted such an idea in forum at least 10% of such a deal.)

I think i read somewhere how all currently porn generators are based on stable diffusion. So they are the one with who it should be discussed.

[lockept93]

Originally Posted by Klen

I think i read somewhere how all currently porn generators are based on stable diffusion. So they are the one with who it should be discussed.

You can discuss about sd as much as u want and even send the founders to prison. It's just the base technology and the different models of it are already out there. It's like u want fight blockchain technology, but the actual products are bitcoin, eth and tousands of shitcoins.
There is no way of getting rid of it anymore - so all energy to fight is wasted.

[Colmike9]

Originally Posted by Klen

I think i read somewhere how all currently porn generators are based on stable diffusion. So they are the one with who it should be discussed.

Yeah, I heard that NSFW SF is version 1.5 and the newer version/s are 'cleaned up'.

[lockept93]

Originally Posted by ZTT

He had 7k+ subscribers when lockept93 posted yesterday. He's now on 9k+. By next week, 30k+? That's half a million dollars per month.

I need correct here cause the number of subs of 7k I saw around 3 weeks ago. Then I subbed to test it out, but as sub u dont see the total number anymore. Just to clarify. But even then around 2k subs in not even a month is huge for a still pretty unknown service (didnt saw any media writing about - just found the website random on twitter)

[ANAL PASTE]

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

Wait and see what happens.

Porn Masturbators tend to have meltdowns about stuff that's 'not real.'

You obviously never dealt with tight niche catering for lets say Japanese or Germans. By far, 2 biggest perv nations in the world. Those guys look for some content that is impossible to reproduce. Here, they can build it themselves.

[xocrea]

nice, where to generate it ?

[ZTT]

Originally Posted by lockept93

The reason for this "chaos" is that these technologies are based on open source - so you can train your own AI models, you can train your own AI writing. In the past new technologies are hold by tech firms and the ways they expand are more or less under control. The current AI situation is like someone opened the pandoras box and whithin one year so many different markets get infected without having proper time to prepare for that and need make fast heavy decisions. Look at Artstation, their whole userbase gets riot cause AI images are flooding the market - users force them to ban AI but as big company u don't want close yourself out of new technologies and markets and u see your competitors go with it.

Yes the main reason for the rise is the user experience to make something own - nobody is on the point yet to say, AI images are better than real ones - but the feeling to do not NEED someone else to "produce" something with boobies you can watch - that's a form of getting "power". It's abstract yes. I also believe it's a lot of hype now where everyone want try it and it makes just fun and its something new. Also this hype will be gone and then it will be a normal tool.

I was thinking the problem with AI was too much gatekeeping and proprietry bullshit.

Big tech firms hogging data and models, which they stole ("scraped") from all of us, under the guise of 'safety' or 'responsibility'. As if Silicon Valley sociopaths even know the meaning of those words, when it's all about greed, control and money. "Open" AI? Good one.

Deep Fakes hysteria was half a decade ago now, but the world hasn't ended since 2018, at least not because of fake Gal Gadot porn, but I also haven't heard of much development in that area since all the fuss that was made.

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the hype with AI now is artificial and stoked by OpenAI itself, because ChatGPT is nowhere near what it's made out to be, in my experience, especially for generating code, which is at least 75% inaccurate.

I think the hype is justified for AI in general though, relative to its massive potential, unlike say crypto/blockchain, which nobody has yet unearthed a use for in a decade and a half, other than computer tokens, and VR/Metaverse which is years away from being ready for practical everyday usage.

Open source is what will drive AI, not Big Tech trying to keep it to themselves, and I can't wait for the day we can create plausible new Beatles tracks on our phones, or movies generated by AI, in whatever genre, with whatever actors we want.

I mean most human made movies are average at best, and if it's not the actual Fab Four singing, so what? It's not them when I listen to other music either, but I still like it.

If I was on Artstation I'd probably be complaining too, because I'm a human being and that's what we like to do, but I think 'artists' may be gatekeeping as well, or perhaps using AI as an excuse for their lack of sales or popularity. Instead of attacking AI, they should be looking at how it can help them, because it is simply revolutionary for media and creative arts.

Unsplash, Pexels and the like are free image resources but photographers are still demand, and indeed submit their work to those sites to get exposure they otherwise wouldn't.

Different things appeal to different markets, and different people have different requirements.

AIs have no 'soul', which I think is reflected in what they generate, but sometimes that doesn't matter.

[ZTT]

Originally Posted by Klen

I think i read somewhere how all currently porn generators are based on stable diffusion. So they are the one with who it should be discussed.

Yeah I don't know what they're using, but I was thinking about that after I posted, that it's not strictly Pornpen's "tech", but I think the way they've taken it and put it to use is impressive and effective.

Right now I think getting anything out yesterday is preferable to working on 'perfection', uniqueness or developing something from the ground up, because having virtually no competition is such a massive advantage.

Originally Posted by lockept93

I need correct here cause the number of subs of 7k I saw around 3 weeks ago. Then I subbed to test it out, but as sub u dont see the total number anymore. Just to clarify. But even then around 2k subs in not even a month is huge for a still pretty unknown service (didnt saw any media writing about - just found the website random on twitter)

I think I first saw it on Hackernews a while ago, then nothing until recently, when I've seen it mentioned a few times in the past week or so, but maybe that was just on here, or reddit, I can't even remember, but it might be gaining some traction right now in the wake of ChatGPT mania.

Even 9k free subscribers is pretty good for an obscure site that didn't even exist a few months ago. For paying members, and not paying $15 a year or $1.99 a month, but $15 a month, it's incredible. Whether they continue to pay that's another matter, but if it caters to what people want, why not.

[lockept93]

Originally Posted by xocrea

nice, where to generate it ?

Did u turn on the pc by yourself? lol

Really, the link is everywhere, in the OP post, in every image as watermark. Its harder to not know where to generate it.