PretjeNL

The last months i see more and more of my sites disappear from Google.

Before when i searched for the domain name it was comming up, on the moment 30% of my sites are not showing up anymore and i can't find out why???

Are there more people with the same?

Sharon1974

Maybe because of a new update. https://developers.google.com/search...policies?hl=en

mrmister

New update hit a lot of people quite hard

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money biz

Check you canonical tags. This is how they are fighting doorways and splogs right now.

Justaguy31

Check if you received a manual action in GCS for spam. If not, it's probably some dumb AI algorithmic shit dumb google devs trying to optimize search results.

They claimed that they would root out the expired domain abuse, and push more relevant search results. But in reality, the opposite seems to be happening. Expired domains are still going as strong as before, sending you to their shitty landing pages, while relevant links such as MASSIVE NSFW subreddits lost 90 percent of their traffic over night. So it's not just regular site owners being hit.

Ollay

You're not alone. I got fucked by the HCU in November, lost almost all traffic from Google in the space of an hour. The recent core update just about killed it off completely.



Hoping that I can recover some by the end of the core update.

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myleene

What kind of site got hit?

PretjeNL

Looks like there is a lot going on... Going to check some things, this is really not good

starfoxx

Alot of sites have been completely removed for what they "Google" call AI Spam - some of these sites had millions of views a month and removed overnight - THis is a list of around 837 from a database this group monitors.

nichesitemetrics/com/ google-march-2024-ai-spam-manual-action

Justaguy31

Your site was already stripped from the face of the earth in November

mopek1

I thought adult was hit enough the last few years. Aren't results supposed to go down AND up?

laouch

Not sure its the same thing, my sites are still ok but I noticed that for few of them when you search the website name the homepage and the big pages are not there anymore. At first I thought about DMCA but I did counter dmca and Google say that the pages have not being removed.

I have no idea what to do, I am talking about +10 years old websites :/

TheLegacy

That was my first thought as well and may be the reason in this situation but without more information on the website or background data it's hard to say. Could be so many other reasons as well

Technical Issue
Penalties
Content Removal
Domain Expiry or Changes
Algorithm Updates
Competitive Factors

All those also play a factor

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TurboB

You mean homepages are de-indexed?
Does it not show up by searching inurl:domain.com? And it are shown as indexed in GSC?

PretjeNL

IN GSC it says indexed, but when i only search for the domain names alone without extension like .com it don't show up.
What do show up, are other sites from me with a link to that sites.

And it started around the end of november last year like the post of Ollay.

femdomdestiny

I am almost sure people have no clue or control over the events anymore. It is a complete disaster compared to previous years. I know, because I have been living from SEO for the many years. Just look at part of my results from yesterday :



Site ranking is white labels, zero quality pages, and a complete mess. I've never used any kind of AI crap on any of my sites including the one from the image above. High-quality handwritten articles, technically clean site like it was for years. HCU ruined it almost completely, and a recent update killed it now.

By reading SEO communities you will see thousands of stories like this with even better sites and in various niches.

There is no way I am missing or overlooking something so big to have such an impact on the site.

There is no single person, comment, or advice that makes sense. People are just talking shit and not telling anything

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laouch

I guess it show somewhere on site:domaine.com because yes it say indexed in GSC but no where when you type the name. Website is still the first result on the query but not from the homepage which doesn't make sense for the user.

mopek1

Still people will defend Google until they die.

I looked over traffic analysis on a few random adult sites and they all seem to go up and down with these G updates. None of us gets the same backlinks, or uses the same keywords etc...

Google has two buttons for adult: MORE & LESS. That's it. Lately, it been less for many of us. No rhyme or reason.

femdomdestiny

The thing is that for years, while In was following Google rules, everything was fine. This period is the first time I don't have a clue what to do.

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jimstones22

For us this started with the HCU update back in August, 2023. We gradually lost about 40-50% of our traffic. Last time we suffered a similar drop in rankings was back in 2020 when it took about maybe 7-9 months to recover.

Although this is something to worry about, it can happen and usually it's just a matter of keeping on working and being patient before the next update will restore rankings.

However, here comes the March Google update and we're losing another 25% of our traffic so far. Our rankings have NOT recovered. We never used AI.

What I noticed after these updates is that Google Search became full of subdomain spam, scraper sites, and domains that immediately redirect to an offer.

I'm not too optimistic anymore.

TheLegacy

I've also been around a while and have appreciated your posts over time showing you are very knowledgeable in all this.

My question to you is the numbers that are shown in your graph - are they from analytics or google seach console? There is a difference between the two on how they read traffic

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Mr Pheer

He kind of means like what happened to this site.

https://BonsaiMary.com was an expired domain. It was picked up and rebuilt (using wayback machine) so that pages, posts, categories all matched the original.

1000 new posts were added over the course of 8 months. All written by AI and moderately edited by hand. Images, relevant videos, product links etc. About three months ago, google started listing more and more pages at a rapid pace. Site was doing great, was bringing in $6k/month and climbing

Google update last week...

Site is deindexed and completely removed from Google now.

mopek1

Was that yours?

8 months of work gone in one day. That sucks.

I think "G" knows better. All they have to do is look at the metric TOS and if the surfers spend time there, and come back often, it's a good signal to Google that people WANT to be on those pages, so why de-index it just because it was written by AI. I prefer the human touch whenever possible, but AI is useful.

femdomdestiny

This is internal tracking of targeted keywords by software. There are dozens or hundreds of them I am checking periodically (depending on the website). Average position with USA IP address.

I am not targeting all of them, but it helps me have a better picture of is everything is ok and whether are there some strange jumps or drops. Google dancing is normal, some go up, some down but the situation should be stable and it was for a long time.

After HCU everything dropped on the places where it is useless. Now, pages completely disappeared from SERPs (checking in the first 50 spots).

At the moment, I am thinking it might be true, that Google is going for pure affiliate websites. I have other sites without change (actually with some improvement in traffic) but there are sponsored articles looking like some kind of neutral pages not only made to generate sales.

Because if for a targeted keyword, in the top results a Whitelabel is looking the same as tons of other sites, how do Google requirements then apply? No informative content, no unique content.

What I also notice is increased demand for buying links. Agencies are contacting me multiple times per day. No precise answer, maybe pros in the community believe that everything else is crap and links are still #1?

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mrmister

My sites without any words have better ranking now compared to sites with long handwritten article

Update is going to take a month so I will evaluate then.

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laouch

RIP your site look nice and clean.

Mine are not expired domains but 10 years old + domains with real branded porn name I did choose. I guess negative seo killed them but fuck Google to always say "you just have to play it with the rules while in reality it has always been impossible to maintain a site for several years while being clean or not caring about its SEO, they say to play with their rules but they do nothing against negative SEO or the thousands of false anonymous DMCA requests that they receive every day.

femdomdestiny

I ve just discovered some sites that copied my concept, and article(s). Didn't bother to check how many but it is obvious. This site ranks well.

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TheLegacy

So sorry to hear that. How well des the site rank?

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femdomdestiny

just checked, seems bad overall

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The Porn Nerd

I noticed that now, when you search for a porn site's name like Swing My Wife (for example) you no longer see the actual paysite in the results. Instead you see YouTube videos about swinging, etc.

But if I type in SwingMyWife.com (like that) the SERPs appear normal to me. I am not using a VPN tho so my results are probably skewered.

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mopek1

Which is a way of steering surfers away from porn. SwingMyWife is obviously a search term that a person uses to find that site.

The Porn Nerd

Google has been doing this kind of stuff with mainstream for a long time now so maybe it is adult's turn. Before Big G would try and serve the surfer the best results possible. But now, like most websites these days, Google now does everything it can to keep you on Google! Sponsored links dominate the top search results, YouTube videos replace sites with streaming content..on and on.

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CaptainHowdy

Google isn't your friend . . .

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mopek1

Yeah, whenever a company gets really big, they seem to transform into a different animal. Morals and values are a bit laxer, identity is not what it used to be etc...

TeenCat

just to add, someone is hitting me and i see thats not only me, hard on dmca, i received like 800+ dmca in 10 days, all fake, brazzers content reported on behalf of twitter and instagram, all fake, but some ass is taking this as part of his business, killing others hard work by sending fake dmca, so add your sites to g wm tools and act to these dmca fast. i got in touch with google rep, he told me, even if i win every counter, i can still get hit hard with these fake shit, so be aware, there is some rat out there ;)

edit: and btw, if you rat reading me, i have a baseball bat ready ... cops, yeah, i said that ... i have baseball bat ready for the rat ...

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todservices

yep same here, it happened around November 2023 for me, so nothing to do with the current update
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fuck google there are other ways to get traffic

todservices

i get EXACTLY the same

laouch

Welcome to the club, I been living that for years. Be careful you may find your homepage in those 800.

The Porn Nerd

Such as?

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TeenCat

? what od you mean? i have my sites in every single of these 800+ DMCAs. someone is doing some legit trash in here ...

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femdomdestiny

Lol... Just look at this crap/ Randomly picked keyword I know competitors for years: " ballbusting chat".

Some of the top 10 results are pure crap, AI shit:

https://flowgpt.com/p/maria-ballbusting
https://www.hotforbot.com/chat/tinaballbust
https://www.ballbusting.ai/
https://www.ballbustingchat.com/
https://flowgpt.com/p/maid-tiffany-ballbusting
https://www.personalityforge.com/cha...p?botID=145316
https://www.hotforbot.com/chat/lilliare
https://crushon.ai/character/b581f86...32603f/details

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mopek1

You mean Google wasn't being honest about removing AI? I have to rethink my life now.

The Porn Nerd

Let AI do it and you'll come out a gay transgender black lesbian George Washington.

Only you can decide if that's an improvement or not.

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mopek1

LOL ......... Yes, I'll do that. then G will ban me for having used AI.

TeenCat

just to let you know, what can some false dmca do to your site ... there is some bitch that is doing this to his comeptitors, i think i already know, but i will never step to this kind of "strategy", if i dont know better i am going to kill the competitors. and google happily helping with it ... karma works, and i hope this guy will end up on wheelchair ...





just check the dates ... the dmca screenshot is only part, in total the site received like 800+ false dmca in next two weeks or so ... btw, every single counter to the dmca's have been won, but the site never got back ... google support confirmed, that it is bad, as they said, but it is how the algo works now ... so, congrats google, on helping thieves and bitches and hard working people have eyes to cry or have to do the same shit and waste your time ... shit!

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trevesty

"Swing My Wife" is broad. Your brand is pretty tiny (no disrespect, it just is), so it makes more sense to me that Google may show videos about swinging or whatever on Youtube instead of your site.

You also only have 12 referring domains, most of which are absolute shit links, to your site with that anchor. If you care about this, then you need to fortify your brand name. Build some links to your site with that anchor from quality places. Hit up Ravo - he has a few pubs with sites similar to that niche.

mopek1

Yeah maybe, but I'm noticing the same issue with larger brands.

When I type in the exact name of my site, and there is no mistaking it for anything else, I get mainstream results.

mopek1

Sorry that happened. I must suck big time. Google is a slave to the monster algo they created now. They need a better DMCA process in place. If it were to start happening to the bigger sites that google loves then they would likely change the DMCA process they have in place. Remember how people were afraid of negative SEO? Google said don't worry but then big SEO sites started testing and found that negative SEO was a thing. So then they created the disavow tool

The Porn Nerd

Yes that is a tiny site but it is the same with my larger sites. Type in the .com and you find it but not when you type in the site name itself. I doubt more backlinks would make a difference in the current atmosphere.

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trevesty

Google probably doesn't consider those sites a brand, so instead random ass shit shows up. Same solution.



Ok.