ccbill declined BOTH my Visa cards - GoFuckYourself.com

rowan · 08-28-2003, 06:34 PM

Just adding to the "WTF" posts about ccbill lately...

Tried a standard Visa credit card issued by one of the "big 4" Australian banks.

Available credit $AUD1,129 (about $USD750)

"Card declined by bank. Please try a different card"

This card has been used to sign up with ccbill before.

Ok, second try, my Visa Debit card. I think it's called Visa Checking in the USA, it's linked directly to your bank account.

Available balance $AUD1,452 (about $USD950)

"Card declined by bank. Please try a different card"

Again - this card has been used with ccbill before.

GeXus · 08-28-2003, 06:35 PM

Good.. ccbill is protecting itself against scammers

Juicy D. Links · 08-28-2003, 06:36 PM

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Living For Today · 08-28-2003, 06:40 PM

thats not to good.
discrimination against us aussies

hopefully its not to common

plsureking · 08-28-2003, 06:44 PM

yo man. i doubt downunder has been added to the ccbill blacklist. i do know that they are picky as shit though. your info on the form has to match exactly to your banks info. we had a german dude that got declined cuz he had some weird dots over his u. he removed them and it went through.

what were you signing up for anyway?

corvette · 08-28-2003, 06:55 PM

rowan, your card could have been declined for many reasons. If it was declined by the bank, then when we tried to submit it to the bank, the bank said ?no?

rowan · 08-28-2003, 06:56 PM

I put in the proper data both times. Double and triple checked it even.

Correct billing address, correct name (same as it appears on the card - no funny characters), correct card#, correct CVV2, correct expiry. I have never had either card declined by ccbill before. They've been used for a total of 6 initial transactions (and a few rebills) through ccbill in the past year or so.

I doubt that ccbill has given us Aussies the flick, but it seems strange that a couple of Australian people have had 4 different cards - from 3 different (and major) Australian banks - declined in the past few days.

plsureking · 08-28-2003, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by corvett
rowan, your card could have been declined for many reasons. If it was declined by the bank, then when we tried to submit it to the bank, the bank said ?no?

hey whats up mark. ryan from hegre.

i've had my card declined at some ccbill clients and then it works at others on the same day. rowan you're probably trying to buy at an inferior site. try a better site! hehe

rowan · 08-28-2003, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by plsureking
i've had my card declined at some ccbill clients and then it works at others on the same day. rowan you're probably trying to buy at an inferior site. try a better site! hehe

That's weird, if the bank is declining the card then wouldn't it happen to any ccbill signup page?

I already have a hegre-archives membership.

brutus · 08-28-2003, 07:08 PM

THat's not so funny - my cards incl. business cards - are declined when issuing banks are closed i.e. outside business hours. That's scary. Including cards from Finland, Viro, Russia and Germany. Fuck. Just wondering how much saaes is lost becouse of that... too much.

Funny - at lest my finnish and german cards works when local banks are open. Too strange ???

plsureking · 08-28-2003, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan

That's weird, if the bank is declining the card then wouldn't it happen to any ccbill signup page?

I already have a hegre-archives membership.

well at least you have some quality porn in your life! you should try galitsin-archives dude. that site is going crazy lately with all the hot little russian chicks we're posting. are you an affiliate there? make a grand and i'll give you a password.

mark will have to answer the credit card stuff. i'm boggled..

corvette · 08-28-2003, 07:15 PM

hi ryan, hope all is well

There are many good reasons and different factors that can cause a card to be declined. I would list them all, but I don?t want to compromise the integrity of our fraud scrubbing system.

We want good transactions and we want to minimize risky transactions?but the fact remains that if we submit a transaction to your bank and your bank declines it for whatever reason, our hands are tied?

Bottom line is that our interests are aligned with our webmasters. We only lose money off of declined cards; we make money when our clients make sales.

I am going home now, should be back online in a bit

beemk · 08-28-2003, 07:16 PM

pay your bills

bhutocracy · 08-28-2003, 07:30 PM

cards issued by a couple of the australian banks just will not get through the system.. ccbill has been particularly harsh to aussie cards for several years... the national is particularly bad

rowan · 08-28-2003, 07:39 PM

Can it happen the other way around, with the bank indiscriminately blocking transactions that are initiated through ccbill?

chromium · 08-28-2003, 07:41 PM

I suggest you try again tomorrow with your tests.

Sometimes with the wonderful interent... bank connections are not fully made "in a timely manner" and a decline is quickly issued.

Could also be a problem with your local bank.

(I am not defending CCBILL... not a client)

Joe Average · 08-28-2003, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by plsureking
we had a german dude that got declined cuz he had some weird dots over his u. he removed them and it went through.

For future reference, those 'weird dots' are called an Umlaut.

Kimmykim · 08-28-2003, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
Can it happen the other way around, with the bank indiscriminately blocking transactions that are initiated through ccbill?

Technically anything is possible, though it would be more of a situation where the banks would block a transaction on an MCC basis just like they do with gambling.

plsureking · 08-28-2003, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Average

For future reference, those 'weird dots' are called an Umlaut.

yeah i tried to spell umlaut but gave up. sorry german dudes.

Indeed · 08-28-2003, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeXus
Good.. ccbill is protecting itself against scammers

spooky181 · 08-28-2003, 10:43 PM

When I was using CCbill I used to sign up to my site using my credit cards as I was always suspicious of their rediculous scrub rate. Some days my card would be accepted then others it would not. I used to be driven crazy by the constant decline emails from CCbill.

As soon as I switched to Verotel (yes I know you will say they won't be around for long) my signups % had a huge jump and no increase in chargebacks. It is a pity that CCbill has pretty much a monopoly now as they can scrub even tighter now.

Spooky

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rowan · 08-31-2003, 07:17 PM

Following this up...

Signup was successful today using the Visa credit card.

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stocktrader23 · 08-31-2003, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spooky181
When I was using CCbill I used to sign up to my site using my credit cards as I was always suspicious of their rediculous scrub rate. Some days my card would be accepted then others it would not. I used to be driven crazy by the constant decline emails from CCbill.

As soon as I switched to Verotel (yes I know you will say they won't be around for long) my signups % had a huge jump and no increase in chargebacks. It is a pity that CCbill has pretty much a monopoly now as they can scrub even tighter now.

Spooky

www.CheatingXXXWife.com/extremecash/index.html

They keep telling me they don't scrub harder but my CCBill ratios keep going from great to shit to great to shit. I pulled all the links to CCBill sponsors I had on Google Adwords just a couple of days ago.

Sausage · 08-31-2003, 09:40 PM

Yeah I have 3 credit cards from different aussie banks and CCBill declines them all. All the other processors I have tried accept them.... so its not the bank.

08-28-2003, 06:34 PM	#1
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	ccbill declined BOTH my Visa cards Just adding to the "WTF" posts about ccbill lately... Tried a standard Visa credit card issued by one of the "big 4" Australian banks. Available credit $AUD1,129 (about $USD750) "Card declined by bank. Please try a different card" This card has been used to sign up with ccbill before. Ok, second try, my Visa Debit card. I think it's called Visa Checking in the USA, it's linked directly to your bank account. Available balance $AUD1,452 (about $USD950) "Card declined by bank. Please try a different card" Again - this card has been used with ccbill before.

08-28-2003, 06:35 PM	#2
GeXus Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Yo Mommas Pussy Posts: 3,320	Good.. ccbill is protecting itself against scammers __________________

08-28-2003, 06:44 PM	#5
plsureking bored Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: PORNCMS.com Posts: 4,725	yo man. i doubt downunder has been added to the ccbill blacklist. i do know that they are picky as shit though. your info on the form has to match exactly to your banks info. we had a german dude that got declined cuz he had some weird dots over his u. he removed them and it went through. what were you signing up for anyway? __________________ #

08-28-2003, 06:55 PM	#6
corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	rowan, your card could have been declined for many reasons. If it was declined by the bank, then when we tried to submit it to the bank, the bank said ?no? __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

08-28-2003, 07:08 PM	#10
brutus Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Living in the bottle. Posts: 590	THat's not so funny - my cards incl. business cards - are declined when issuing banks are closed i.e. outside business hours. That's scary. Including cards from Finland, Viro, Russia and Germany. Fuck. Just wondering how much saaes is lost becouse of that... too much. Funny - at lest my finnish and german cards works when local banks are open. Too strange ??? __________________

08-28-2003, 06:36 PM	#3
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	you know crocodile dundee?

08-28-2003, 06:40 PM	#4
Living For Today Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,970	thats not to good. discrimination against us aussies hopefully its not to common

08-28-2003, 06:56 PM	#7
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	I put in the proper data both times. Double and triple checked it even. Correct billing address, correct name (same as it appears on the card - no funny characters), correct card#, correct CVV2, correct expiry. I have never had either card declined by ccbill before. They've been used for a total of 6 initial transactions (and a few rebills) through ccbill in the past year or so. I doubt that ccbill has given us Aussies the flick, but it seems strange that a couple of Australian people have had 4 different cards - from 3 different (and major) Australian banks - declined in the past few days.

08-28-2003, 07:15 PM	#12
corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	hi ryan, hope all is well There are many good reasons and different factors that can cause a card to be declined. I would list them all, but I don?t want to compromise the integrity of our fraud scrubbing system. We want good transactions and we want to minimize risky transactions?but the fact remains that if we submit a transaction to your bank and your bank declines it for whatever reason, our hands are tied? Bottom line is that our interests are aligned with our webmasters. We only lose money off of declined cards; we make money when our clients make sales. I am going home now, should be back online in a bit __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

08-28-2003, 07:16 PM	#13
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	pay your bills __________________ I host with Vacares

08-28-2003, 07:30 PM	#14
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	cards issued by a couple of the australian banks just will not get through the system.. ccbill has been particularly harsh to aussie cards for several years... the national is particularly bad

08-28-2003, 07:39 PM	#15
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Can it happen the other way around, with the bank indiscriminately blocking transactions that are initiated through ccbill?

08-28-2003, 07:41 PM	#16
chromium Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 100	I suggest you try again tomorrow with your tests. Sometimes with the wonderful interent... bank connections are not fully made "in a timely manner" and a decline is quickly issued. Could also be a problem with your local bank. (I am not defending CCBILL... not a client)

08-28-2003, 10:43 PM	#21
spooky181 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: back of beyond Posts: 2,951	When I was using CCbill I used to sign up to my site using my credit cards as I was always suspicious of their rediculous scrub rate. Some days my card would be accepted then others it would not. I used to be driven crazy by the constant decline emails from CCbill. As soon as I switched to Verotel (yes I know you will say they won't be around for long) my signups % had a huge jump and no increase in chargebacks. It is a pity that CCbill has pretty much a monopoly now as they can scrub even tighter now. Spooky www.CheatingXXXWife.com/extremecash/index.html

08-31-2003, 07:17 PM	#22
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Following this up... Signup was successful today using the Visa credit card.

08-31-2003, 07:41 PM	#23
dirtyone Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: God's Country (Georgia) Posts: 3,706	Why would you pay for porn when there is so much free stuff out there?

08-31-2003, 09:40 PM	#25
Sausage Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,012	Yeah I have 3 credit cards from different aussie banks and CCBill declines them all. All the other processors I have tried accept them.... so its not the bank.