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Old 10-22-2003, 10:02 AM   #51
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Nope but hell ask you to babysit his kids while your he goes to a webmaster function hahaahaha.
can you say that again in English please


oh, and 50
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Old 10-22-2003, 10:04 AM   #52
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Just to clear the air. In all intensive purposes, is possibly with others, unbeknownst to me. It is not my intention nor desire to used a pawn in this matter.

Please bear in mind choke, I do not reside in a third world nation, as I too am located here in the USA.

If by chance you feel I have wronged you in some way, by using your competitors product...then come to me directly.

I am readily available via, ICQ, telephone, in person or any other reasonable method(s) of communication. If you feel you have cause, I will provide you with complete contact information, as you will provide the same for me.

Although I am now somewhat aware there now exists a problem between you and the cjoverkill developer, I still have no intention of discontinuing it's use.
Heh, nothing like digging your own grave.

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Old 10-22-2003, 10:05 AM   #53
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I like Choker but who cares about find trades database? Every time i listed on of my sites there i get an influx of newbies that dont read my trading rules i dont even plan on listing any more of my sites there in the future. Last time i checked there were only a handfull of decent sized sites in the database anyways.
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Old 10-22-2003, 10:17 AM   #54
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I like Choker but who cares about find trades database? Every time i listed on of my sites there i get an influx of newbies that dont read my trading rules i dont even plan on listing any more of my sites there in the future. Last time i checked there were only a handfull of decent sized sites in the database anyways.
It's not the database of approved sites that is important. It is the blacklist. TTT users can set their script to only allow approved findtrades sites, and they can set it to not allow sites that are blacklisted to sign up with thier site. Findtrades blacklist has done more to curb TGP cheaters than any blacklist in recent memory. There are over 25,000 quiries into the database everyday. From over 5000 different domains, so there is a hell of a lot of guys using this blacklist.
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Old 10-22-2003, 10:29 AM   #55
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You owe me $250. When are you going to send it?
In the original post i asked you to contact me to get your payment. You didn't yet........... so shut up or contact me. You could have approached this matter a little different.

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Old 10-22-2003, 10:44 AM   #56
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To even go here shows what a true piece of shit you are. You have real problems dude.
I wasn't going anywhere. This was a legitimate question to the logic you presented above. Substitute mother, father, sister, brother, wife, husband or any other number of people. Are you a murderer for supporting your "insert person here" if they are a murderer? That doesn't sound logical to me...and probably not to many others either.

I have no problems at all. Seems like you're the one with the problems. I guess you just don't get it and need people to show you.
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Old 10-22-2003, 10:46 AM   #57
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In the original post i asked you to contact me to get your payment. You didn't yet........... so shut up or contact me. You could have approached this matter a little different.
the payment options are in ctts
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the payment options are in ctts
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Old 10-22-2003, 11:09 AM   #60
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the payment options are in ctts

I've stayed quiet about your pompous ass too long.

You are a complete fuckwit and I can't wait 'til you fuck with the wrong person.

You can only slander so many people before you get bit in the ass.



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Old 10-22-2003, 11:16 AM   #61
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Hmmm , okay , let's compare the actions of both of them.

Choker => If you use stolen material ,I'll blacklist you .

Icefire => Send me 25$ or your site will be hacked .

Hmmmm....
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Old 10-22-2003, 11:18 AM   #62
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I've stayed quiet about your pompous ass too long.

You are a complete fuckwit and I can't wait 'til you fuck with the wrong person.

You can only slander so many people before you get bit in the ass.



Show me one example of where I have slandered or fucked with someone for no reason. Else STFU Anon
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Icefire => Send me 25$ or your site will be hacked .
You're completely off base on that one. He never threatened anyone's code. He just said that if they wanted to pay for his bug fix, he'd supply it to them. Choker just twisted the situation up to benefit himself. Pretty simple to see
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Old 10-22-2003, 11:53 AM   #64
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Show me one example of where I have slandered or fucked with someone for no reason. Else STFU Anon
Hi there

So because you don't know someone they're anon? He's registered and has more than 10 posts...which is a lot more than most of the ass monkey's who are usually here to back you up.
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Old 10-22-2003, 12:01 PM   #65
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Show me one example of where I have slandered or fucked with someone for no reason. Else STFU Anon
Do I really have to point out all of the places you've gone off and all the people that could file a libel suit against you?

If only they had the resources.



Hell -- I'll donate to the first one that wants to make a case.
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I've stayed quiet about your pompous ass too long.

You are a complete fuckwit and I can't wait 'til you fuck with the wrong person.

You can only slander so many people before you get bit in the ass.



Sometimes others capture in words, my very thoughts. Again choker, I don't reside in a third world nation, nor do I consider the confederate flag a work of art.

Again if you feel you have cause for action, contact me. You may call me (I'm listed as you are aware)
Visit me, as I am available for a face to face
Write me.... as the choice is yours.
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It basically is!

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Just a quick question about your logic here:

Say your child murders someone. I'm sure you'll stand behind your child and offer whatever support that you can. Does this make you a murderer as well?
Hey if my child murdered someone, I wouldn't have anything wrong with him frying in the electric chair! If he is guilty and he admits it - I'm not gonna support him!

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If by chance you feel I have wronged you in some way, by using your competitors product...then come to me directly.
But the whole point isn't that it is a competitors product! I'm on findtrades.com and I use UCJ! It's the fact that the guy that programed CJOverKill stole his code!

When I was using TTT and ran in to CJOverKill - I checked out the two. And CJOverKill is stolen code! That's the whole point. You're using stolen code, which in turn is theft and you're supporting it. But I understand that you may have not know about it!

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You're completely off base on that one. He never threatened anyone's code. He just said that if they wanted to pay for his bug fix, he'd supply it to them. Choker just twisted the situation up to benefit himself. Pretty simple to see
You claim you are no longer his partner, yet you constantly defend this thief. You are scum. Pretty simple to see.
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Bottom line here people: Be original.... don't rip off/copy/steal the original hard work of others, and big arguments and messes like this won't be happening.
Exactly. When I'm programming, my code is all original.

And everybody has got to learn not to steal the code! IT IS ILLEGAL!

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Again if you feel you have cause for action, contact me. You may call me (I'm listed as you are aware)
Visit me, as I am available for a face to face
Write me.... as the choice is yours.
Why should I contact you? For what? You are using a stolen version of my script on your site. Thus you are blacklisted. Why should I contact you? I am not the one running stolen scripts on my server, you are. There is nothing to discuss here.
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This shit is old. Everyone should get over it and fuck off. All of you.
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How the fuck is this slander? They are using a stolen script! It is illegal to make or use a stolen intellectual property! It's not slander!

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You claim you are no longer his partner, yet you constantly defend this thief. You are scum. Pretty simple to see.
Chocker, you got ICQ?

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This shit is old. Everyone should get over it and fuck off. All of you.
Yep I agree. I am sick of it myself. Use this stolen script and you will get blacklisted. Don't come crying on GFY about it. I'm not being a pompous ass, a jerk, bully or anything else. I am simply not going to let people get away with stealing from me. Just because most people would look the other way and let people fuck them, does not make me a asshole because I choose not to do the same.
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How the fuck is this slander? They are using a stolen script! It is illegal to make or use a stolen intellectual property! It's not slander!

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I'll give you her stance on the matter makes her an unsympathetic figure.


The fact of the matter remains that someone trying to earn an honest living that chooses to make use of their time instead of surfing boards could download the script with no idea of what is 'going on' and have their business negitively impacted by being labeled a cheater by the chicken man.

I've already seen it happen. Bury your head in the sand if you wish.


He's already proved too big of a pussy to go after the people responsible and is trying to make examples out of newbies looking for a free script.





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You're completely off base on that one. He never threatened anyone's code. He just said that if they wanted to pay for his bug fix, he'd supply it to them. Choker just twisted the situation up to benefit himself. Pretty simple to see
Never mind my or Chokers interpretation of what he said .

What matters is HIS words . Anyone can read HIS post and it's "Pretty simple to see" that he was trying to extort money , like some kind of high tech Tony Saprano.


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The fact of the matter remains that someone trying to earn an honest living that chooses to make use of their time instead of surfing boards could download the script with no idea of what is 'going on' and have their business negitively impacted by being labeled a cheater by the chicken man.

I've already seen it happen. Bury your head in the sand if you wish.

He's already proved too big of a pussy to go after the people responsible and is trying to make examples out of newbies looking for a free script.





Chicken Boy.
Let me guess? You are blacklisted also?
If they remove the stolen script from their site they get unblacklisted.

Pussy LOL, I am many things but Pussy is not one of them.
You are so far from the facts you really don't even deserve a reply Anon.
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Let me guess? You are blacklisted also?
If they remove the stolen script from their site they get unblacklisted.
No.

I actually have an active account.

LOL

(go looking for it and ban me -- hurry... )


"Pussy LOL, I am many things but Pussy is not one of them.
You are so far from the facts you really don't even deserve a reply Anon. "

Right.


Fact 1.

I (boo who) can't/won't go after them because they're/he's in Spain, but rest assured my scrotum lickers -- I would if they were only in the US or Canada.

Fact 2.

I pussed out in fact one... so I'll attack some newbies.
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No.

I actually have an active account.

LOL

(go looking for it and ban me -- hurry... )


"Pussy LOL, I am many things but Pussy is not one of them.
You are so far from the facts you really don't even deserve a reply Anon. "

Right.


Fact 1.

I (boo who) can't/won't go after them because they're/he's in Spain, but rest assured my scrotum lickers -- I would if they were only in the US or Canada.

Fact 2.

I pussed out in fact one... so I'll attack some newbies.
LOL you are a dumbass, but don't worry I don't blacklist guys for that. Going after newbies? LOL, that's a good one dumbass, considering 75% of what I do is to help newbies build their business. Anyone using this script will be blacklisted, does not matter if they are a newbie or if they have been around since 96. So you can blow the newbie crap out your ass. Newbies are my business and I do not hate newbies, in fact I like them a lot. Dumbass
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LOL you are a dumbass, but don't worry I don't blacklist guys for that. Going after newbies? LOL, that's a good one dumbass, considering 75% of what I do is to help newbies build their business. Anyone using this script will be blacklisted, does not matter if they are a newbie or if they have been around since 96. So you can blow the newbie crap out your ass. Newbies are my business and I do not hate newbies, in fact I like them a lot. Dumbass
It's a shame you have no business skills, because you have some good offerings.

Some people will never learn.
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Someday you'll grow up and understand what intent means.


I'll give you her stance on the matter makes her an unsympathetic figure.


The fact of the matter remains that someone trying to earn an honest living that chooses to make use of their time instead of surfing boards could download the script with no idea of what is 'going on' and have their business negitively impacted by being labeled a cheater by the chicken man.

I've already seen it happen. Bury your head in the sand if you wish.


He's already proved too big of a pussy to go after the people responsible and is trying to make examples out of newbies looking for a free script.





Chicken Boy.
I'm not an anon and I agree that you fly off at the mouth before you use your head. Let's assume you are correct in saying this is a stolen version of your script. Somebody downloads it and is labeled a cheater by you.

Guess what, if that person wanted to press the issue they would damn sure win in court. If I browse your nice little "cheater" blacklist and make a mental note of somebody's domain you have listed there I may decide not do ever do business with them. This my friend is considered damages. Regardless of how you interpret some unknowing person using a script you think is stolen you can't publically label someone a cheater.

One day somebody will have enough of your ego and do something about it. When they do you better hope they don't prove more damages to their business than you've made in your nice little career online. It could very well happen.
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The fact of the matter remains that someone trying to earn an honest living that chooses to make use of their time instead of surfing boards could download the script with no idea of what is 'going on' and have their business negitively impacted by being labeled a cheater by the chicken man.
I suppose that it is the actions of the person <i>after</i> they find out they are using a stolen script that determines what sort of character they posses. As I said earlier, if it were me, once I discovered that I am using a ripped-off version of someone else's work I would most certainly FIX the problem damn fast. Bank on it. I'm sorry to see so many others scoffing and passing it off as nothing.......

I have seen many people come griping on the boards because a theif has ripped them off, but when it happens to a guy like Choker you all think he is over-reacting. Tell you what... write a useful script, one that any webmaster might benefit from, put in dozens of hours perfecting it.... and I will then copy, paste, and rename it and pass it off as my own.... and then let's see what happens shall we?


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I'm not an anon and I agree that you fly off at the mouth before you use your head. Let's assume you are correct in saying this is a stolen version of your script. Somebody downloads it and is labeled a cheater by you.

Guess what, if that person wanted to press the issue they would damn sure win in court. If I browse your nice little "cheater" blacklist and make a mental note of somebody's domain you have listed there I may decide not do ever do business with them. This my friend is considered damages. Regardless of how you interpret some unknowing person using a script you think is stolen you can't publically label someone a cheater.

One day somebody will have enough of your ego and do something about it. When they do you better hope they don't prove more damages to their business than you've made in your nice little career online. It could very well happen.
LOL, you are funny. Someone suing me for blacklisting their site in my database for using a stolen version of my script. Yeah like that's going to happen. You are a joke stokctrader.
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IMO,
you are being a dumbass about this whole thing. Why come to the board this way. Why not email Choker instead. It seems you just want to grill his ass. It is NOT his job to dial you up and work out the problem of YOU using a stolen script. (whether you knew it was stolen or not.)
On my bigger sites, I bit the bullet and PAID for a script, but I do use chokers on a smaller site. It rocks. Now lets say I would of installed a script, and later I find that it is stolen, well I would pull that motha down in a heart beat, then used CHOKERS script instead. The ball is in your court, why not pull the fucking script and do the right thing.
Choker is a good guy. I have purchased awesome traffic from him.
So, if you are going to continue to use the stolen script and give the fuck wad a % of your traffic,, well that is cool,, but if he fucked choker, he sure in the hell is FUCKING you! Who knows how much of your traffic is going to the idiot.

btw, this whole thread has made you look like a complete fuck up!
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Whats the big deal...choker can do what ever the fuck he wants and blacklist who ever he wants on his forum.

life sux live with it
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I'm not an anon and I agree that you fly off at the mouth before you use your head. Let's assume you are correct in saying this is a stolen version of your script. Somebody downloads it and is labeled a cheater by you.

Guess what, if that person wanted to press the issue they would damn sure win in court. If I browse your nice little "cheater" blacklist and make a mental note of somebody's domain you have listed there I may decide not do ever do business with them. This my friend is considered damages. Regardless of how you interpret some unknowing person using a script you think is stolen you can't publically label someone a cheater.

One day somebody will have enough of your ego and do something about it. When they do you better hope they don't prove more damages to their business than you've made in your nice little career online. It could very well happen.
I can't remember if it was Lane or someone else but they did a file by file comparison and surprise the code was almost the same except for a change here and there.
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WendyB ,

IMO,
you are being a dumbass about this whole thing. Why come to the board this way. Why not email Choker instead. It seems you just want to grill his ass. It is NOT his job to dial you up and work out the problem of YOU using a stolen script. (whether you knew it was stolen or not.)
On my bigger sites, I bit the bullet and PAID for a script, but I do use chokers on a smaller site. It rocks. Now lets say I would of installed a script, and later I find that it is stolen, well I would pull that motha down in a heart beat, then used CHOKERS script instead. The ball is in your court, why not pull the fucking script and do the right thing.
Choker is a good guy. I have purchased awesome traffic from him.
So, if you are going to continue to use the stolen script and give the fuck wad a % of your traffic,, well that is cool,, but if he fucked choker, he sure in the hell is FUCKING you! Who knows how much of your traffic is going to the idiot.

btw, this whole thread has made you look like a complete fuck up!
It is virtually impossible to fight that Orange Blossom Trail mentality, where the sunshine has over saturated the rear side of that space between the shoulders.

Choker knows he has zero credibility with me, and might be best served to focus his energy on reaching some agreement with the CJOverkill people.

My position in this matter is firm. As long as CJoverkill continues to offer the CJOVERKILL script on their website, I will continue to use it on various sites I operate.

I am not here to judge to validly of chokers allegation against CJOverkill, nor do I really care. The matter which has occurred chocker and I is because chocker came at me in less than a manly way.
This is not a popularity contest, and I stand by my opinion and decision in this matter, without reservation.
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It is virtually impossible to fight that Orange Blossom Trail mentality, where the sunshine has over saturated the rear side of that space between the shoulders.

Choker knows he has zero credibility with me, and might be best served to focus his energy on reaching some agreement with the CJOverkill people.

My position in this matter is firm. As long as CJoverkill continues to offer the CJOVERKILL script on their website, I will continue to use it on various sites I operate.

I am not here to judge to validly of chokers allegation against CJOverkill, nor do I really care. The matter which has occurred chocker and I is because chocker came at me in less than a manly way.
This is not a popularity contest, and I stand by my opinion and decision in this matter, without reservation.
OBT,, yeah You should know about that!

BTW, your the one here bitching about it! Keep using the script!!! I hope he eats your traffic
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It is virtually impossible to fight that Orange Blossom Trail mentality, where the sunshine has over saturated the rear side of that space between the shoulders.

Choker knows he has zero credibility with me, and might be best served to focus his energy on reaching some agreement with the CJOverkill people.

My position in this matter is firm. As long as CJoverkill continues to offer the CJOVERKILL script on their website, I will continue to use it on various sites I operate.

I am not here to judge to validly of chokers allegation against CJOverkill, nor do I really care. The matter which has occurred chocker and I is because chocker came at me in less than a manly way.
This is not a popularity contest, and I stand by my opinion and decision in this matter, without reservation.
You are so hard headed. You are using a stolen, illegal script. You are at fault, and the person who stole the script is at fault.


If someone gave you counterfeit money, would you use it? No, because it's stolen, illegal money.

But yet, according to your argument, it would be ok to spend counterfeit money because somebody gave it to you, and therefore you are not at fault and only the counterfeiter is.

Grow the fuck up already and get a valid script.
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What I am calling you out on is the way in which you have in an open forum, and characterized me as a thief.

I have no problem with being banned... and strongly suggest you modify the reason as to specify the ban is because I use one of your competitors scripts.
it seems some people have forgoten that this is what WendyB
is upset about !

and in all fairness i can see her point !

i've bought many scripts in the past and surely i can't be expected
to to find scipts that do the same functions, open them and compare to see if they are a rip off !
"if" one of the scripts i bought was infact a stolen copy i would expect the developer to contact me and make me aware of the situation, getting blacklisted would also be a resonable respone by the developer but calling me or anyone a thief on a public forum....i do not agree with that at all !

having said that your (WendyB) comment regarding the continued
use of CJOverKill now that you are aware that it maybe stolen/hacked was a little hasty i feel !
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Going after newbies? LOL, that's a good one dumbass, considering 75% of what I do is to help newbies build their business. Anyone using this script will be blacklisted, does not matter if they are a newbie or if they have been around since 96. So you can blow the newbie crap out your ass. Newbies are my business and I do not hate newbies, in fact I like them a lot. Dumbass
Probably a more accurate statement from choker would be...75% of what I do is to profit from unwitting newbies, while they think I'm helping them (newbies) build their business.

Newbies beware of the wolf in chicken feathers.
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Probably a more accurate statement from choker would be...75% of what I do is to profit from unwitting newbies, while they think I'm helping them (newbies) build their business.

Newbies beware of the wolf in chicken feathers.
this coming from a scorned webmistress using a stolen script hahahahaha

this she be "live comedy forums"
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i've bought many scripts in the past and surely i can't be expected
to to find scipts that do the same functions, open them and compare to see if they are a rip off !
"if" one of the scripts i bought was infact a stolen copy i would expect the developer to contact me and make me aware of the situation, getting blacklisted would also be a resonable respone by the developer but calling me or anyone a thief on a public forum....i do not agree with that at all !

Kevin, you have hit the hammer squarely on the nail.
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this coming from a scorned webmistress using a stolen script hahahahaha

this she be "live comedy forums"
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Sigh, first I did not call Wendy a thief until she started talking smack here. When someone does a search on her domain in findtrades it says "This site is blacklisted for using a stolen version of TTT" Wendy's attitude is pretty typical of the guys who are using this stolen script. They don't care. 95% of them know it is a stolen version. Hell on the stolen scripts support forum there are posts there saying so. Once they are blacklisted it is ususally less than a day before they find out. Of course they are going to be upset because they got found out. As far as emailing them, how many will get the email? I know I filter 95% of my email. Putting them in the blacklist is the fastest way to get thier attention. What they do after that depends upon their character. Is it a coincendence that 90% of the sites using this stolen script also link to CP or beast? I don't want the 1% traffic that I should be getting from them for using my scipt, I don't want them using my script at all.

Wendy whether you agree or disagree with my methods, you know now this is a stolen script. Making excuses for continued usage of this script shows your true character. Your pathetic attempts to slander me in various threads lately is really funny. Dig all you want bitch, you will not find anything on me. We can go on forever with this little game. I find it very entertaining.
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