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HS-Trixxxia · 01-13-2004, 01:38 PM

I need to restrict access to a site, so:

I need the only link on the first page to open up a Copyright notice -
If they accept that, it will give them a login (which we will provide) and
it should allow them to move freely around the site for a certain amount of
time (say 8 hours or whatever we need)
I need the option to block the site or the user - I also NEED this site to be UNPRINTABLE - (don't know if this is possible but just asking - I know we
can block them from copying and pasting or saving the images - wondering if
we can block it from printing too? )

Any programmer care to tell me what this will set us back for and in how long it can be ready? Also - it has to be 100% fool proof. And the username & password can online work from one computer (during the session)

ICQ 930-86.586

Thanks
Trixxxia

ytcracker · 01-13-2004, 01:39 PM

im not going to say its impossible because that is a bad word, but unprintable is probably not a viable option

HS-Trixxxia · 01-13-2004, 01:42 PM

Say it's an image file......then we can make it 'unsavable' and unless the user knows to save the webpage, they cannot save it to their harddrive right?

How about everything else?

s9ann0 · 01-13-2004, 01:44 PM

scared of giving to much free content ? :o)

HS-Trixxxia · 01-13-2004, 01:45 PM

No actually it's mainstream and it's a temporary solution to a bigger problem regarding logistics.

Thanks for your help :-)

(BTW, with 2 tgp's and galleries submitted daily, why would I be worried about giving out too much free content?)

KobyBoy · 01-13-2004, 01:48 PM

You can't make something "unprintable" on a computer. If you see something on the screen you can always do a screen capture and print it. and by that means you can also "save" the image that way too. Once thing I'm asked to do a lot is disable the right mouse button so when someone clicks on your image and wants to do a "Save Images As..." a dialog box pops up telling the person that the mouse button has been disabled. If I remember correctly you can find this script on Dynamic Drive (http://www.dynamicdrive.com).

HS-Trixxxia · 01-13-2004, 01:51 PM

KobyBoy, thanks I know about the rightclick disable (that's also why I wanted the file to be an image.

I'm wondering if a programmer can do the rest of the stuff for me and how long, and how much......

Thanks for your help

AvanteGuard · 01-13-2004, 01:53 PM

hey trixxia, hit me up on ICQ or AIM

grumpy · 01-13-2004, 01:55 PM

Screens can always be printed and images can always be saved. There is nothing you can do about it. So you have to forget of rulling those things out. The rest is simple ( the pasword stuff ) Search for it on a scriptsite.

fuzebox · 01-13-2004, 01:56 PM

I'm available, but I won't take this one because what you're asking is impossible, it won't be 100% or even 90% foolproof.

Your average high school surfer will know how to get around the hahahahahahahahahaha right mouse dialogue, and printing is controlled by the surfer. You cannot allow the surfer to retrieve your information and then control what happens to it once it is on their computer.

JCM · 01-13-2004, 02:06 PM

I've sent that link to my partner for him to put in a bid on it if he wants to:

he says..
you can make an image unsaveable by disabling a right click with java-script, or by making the image a background image (in a TABLE, say), but java-script can be disabled to defeat the 'no right click' trick, and you can just save the webpage with IE and you will get all the background images automatically... Those are the two best ways to do it, but they are by no means foolproof

HS-Trixxxia · 01-13-2004, 02:09 PM

Makes sense......but I'm being 'asked for it to be done'

wondering how safe getting it from a script site is.
I really need this like by tomorrow and absolutely need it to be foolproof in the sense that not everyone can be looking at it.

There is always someone who knows the workaround of those free scripts and I'm thinking a custom one may be better - then again, I'm wondering if it's all worth it :-) Fucking headache already :-))

Thanks

JCM · 01-13-2004, 02:17 PM

what fuzebox says in his first post is absolutely right -- once a surfer gets a page, you have no say what happens after that. what exactly are you trying to protect so completely? there could be other security solutions, but i'll need to know exactly what you're trying to do...

HS-Trixxxia · 01-13-2004, 02:55 PM

JCM.......a very important document/presentation that will not get to its destination on time.

Everyone thanks for your help........you are astounding and I'm getting so many good suggestions I'm totally freaking out. I just got a stupid idea I'll have to check if it will work. If it does I'll let you know.

Thanks again.

xoxoxo Trixxxia

cube³ · 01-13-2004, 03:02 PM

Hi,

I think the best thing that you can do, aside from some proprietary content delivery system (java applet, activex, ect..) is a css media switch. You can have one css for print media and one for web that will thwart the "File->Print" methods of printing on most browsers. Definately not fool proof tho ;-)

Here's an example of printable css:

<style type="text/css" media="print">

body {
display: none;
}

</style>

The temporary access control sounds fairly routine... send me a note if you want to talk about it..

-s

01-13-2004, 01:38 PM	#1
HS-Trixxxia Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 2,946	Programmer or Serious Help needed I need to restrict access to a site, so: I need the only link on the first page to open up a Copyright notice - If they accept that, it will give them a login (which we will provide) and it should allow them to move freely around the site for a certain amount of time (say 8 hours or whatever we need) I need the option to block the site or the user - I also NEED this site to be UNPRINTABLE - (don't know if this is possible but just asking - I know we can block them from copying and pasting or saving the images - wondering if we can block it from printing too? ) Any programmer care to tell me what this will set us back for and in how long it can be ready? Also - it has to be 100% fool proof. And the username & password can online work from one computer (during the session) ICQ 930-86.586 Thanks Trixxxia __________________ ~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~ Patrizia COO - ♥ MassiveDollars Email: patrizia at MassiveDollars dot com ICQ: 465.826.441 Yahoo: trixxxia_me MSN: trixxxia at hotmail dot com

01-13-2004, 01:39 PM	#2
ytcracker stc is the greatest Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: rip sean murray Posts: 12,403	im not going to say its impossible because that is a bad word, but unprintable is probably not a viable option __________________ www.ytcracker.com \| www.digitalgangster.com i love you

01-13-2004, 01:42 PM	#3
HS-Trixxxia Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 2,946	Say it's an image file......then we can make it 'unsavable' and unless the user knows to save the webpage, they cannot save it to their harddrive right? How about everything else? __________________ ~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~ Patrizia COO - ♥ MassiveDollars Email: patrizia at MassiveDollars dot com ICQ: 465.826.441 Yahoo: trixxxia_me MSN: trixxxia at hotmail dot com

01-13-2004, 01:45 PM	#5
HS-Trixxxia Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 2,946	No actually it's mainstream and it's a temporary solution to a bigger problem regarding logistics. Thanks for your help :-) (BTW, with 2 tgp's and galleries submitted daily, why would I be worried about giving out too much free content?) __________________ ~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~ Patrizia COO - ♥ MassiveDollars Email: patrizia at MassiveDollars dot com ICQ: 465.826.441 Yahoo: trixxxia_me MSN: trixxxia at hotmail dot com

01-13-2004, 01:51 PM	#7
HS-Trixxxia Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 2,946	KobyBoy, thanks I know about the rightclick disable (that's also why I wanted the file to be an image. I'm wondering if a programmer can do the rest of the stuff for me and how long, and how much...... Thanks for your help __________________ ~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~ Patrizia COO - ♥ MassiveDollars Email: patrizia at MassiveDollars dot com ICQ: 465.826.441 Yahoo: trixxxia_me MSN: trixxxia at hotmail dot com

01-13-2004, 01:44 PM	#4
s9ann0 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Boston Posts: 4,873	scared of giving to much free content ? :o)

01-13-2004, 01:48 PM	#6
KobyBoy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Purgatory Posts: 201	You can't make something "unprintable" on a computer. If you see something on the screen you can always do a screen capture and print it. and by that means you can also "save" the image that way too. Once thing I'm asked to do a lot is disable the right mouse button so when someone clicks on your image and wants to do a "Save Images As..." a dialog box pops up telling the person that the mouse button has been disabled. If I remember correctly you can find this script on Dynamic Drive (http://www.dynamicdrive.com).

01-13-2004, 01:53 PM	#8
AvanteGuard Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cortland, OH Posts: 451	hey trixxia, hit me up on ICQ or AIM __________________ Looking for Fast Professional Programming? http://www.imadigan.com ICQ: 314-942-262 \| MSN/Email: [email protected]

01-13-2004, 01:55 PM	#9
grumpy Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 9,870	Screens can always be printed and images can always be saved. There is nothing you can do about it. So you have to forget of rulling those things out. The rest is simple ( the pasword stuff ) Search for it on a scriptsite. __________________ Don't let greediness blur your vision \| You gotta let some shit slide icq - 441-456-888

01-13-2004, 01:56 PM	#10
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,050	I'm available, but I won't take this one because what you're asking is impossible, it won't be 100% or even 90% foolproof. Your average high school surfer will know how to get around the hahahahahahahahahaha right mouse dialogue, and printing is controlled by the surfer. You cannot allow the surfer to retrieve your information and then control what happens to it once it is on their computer.

01-13-2004, 02:06 PM	#11
JCM Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 62	I've sent that link to my partner for him to put in a bid on it if he wants to: he says.. you can make an image unsaveable by disabling a right click with java-script, or by making the image a background image (in a TABLE, say), but java-script can be disabled to defeat the 'no right click' trick, and you can just save the webpage with IE and you will get all the background images automatically... Those are the two best ways to do it, but they are by no means foolproof Last edited by JCM; 01-13-2004 at 02:11 PM..

01-13-2004, 02:09 PM	#12
HS-Trixxxia Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 2,946	Makes sense......but I'm being 'asked for it to be done' wondering how safe getting it from a script site is. I really need this like by tomorrow and absolutely need it to be foolproof in the sense that not everyone can be looking at it. There is always someone who knows the workaround of those free scripts and I'm thinking a custom one may be better - then again, I'm wondering if it's all worth it :-) Fucking headache already :-)) Thanks __________________ ~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~ Patrizia COO - ♥ MassiveDollars Email: patrizia at MassiveDollars dot com ICQ: 465.826.441 Yahoo: trixxxia_me MSN: trixxxia at hotmail dot com

01-13-2004, 02:17 PM	#13
JCM Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 62	what fuzebox says in his first post is absolutely right -- once a surfer gets a page, you have no say what happens after that. what exactly are you trying to protect so completely? there could be other security solutions, but i'll need to know exactly what you're trying to do...

01-13-2004, 02:55 PM	#14
HS-Trixxxia Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 2,946	JCM.......a very important document/presentation that will not get to its destination on time. Everyone thanks for your help........you are astounding and I'm getting so many good suggestions I'm totally freaking out. I just got a stupid idea I'll have to check if it will work. If it does I'll let you know. Thanks again. xoxoxo Trixxxia __________________ ~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~♥~~ Patrizia COO - ♥ MassiveDollars Email: patrizia at MassiveDollars dot com ICQ: 465.826.441 Yahoo: trixxxia_me MSN: trixxxia at hotmail dot com

01-13-2004, 03:02 PM	#15
cube³ Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 14	Hi, I think the best thing that you can do, aside from some proprietary content delivery system (java applet, activex, ect..) is a css media switch. You can have one css for print media and one for web that will thwart the "File->Print" methods of printing on most browsers. Definately not fool proof tho ;-) Here's an example of printable css: <style type="text/css" media="print"> body { display: none; } </style> The temporary access control sounds fairly routine... send me a note if you want to talk about it.. -s __________________ ±ß³ - (5327381)²