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Old 03-24-2004, 12:06 PM   #51
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Old 03-24-2004, 12:27 PM   #52
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I don't send models to anyone I don't know or I havent met in person. Never have, never will. I know a bunch of agents who will, but not me - too paranoid.
I doubt that very highly.... just as I know you take more than 10% for a fact. Fact is the agents .. if you wanna call em that ... will send em ANYWHERE to make their money.
And even if you meet someone in person... BIG FUCKIN DEAL.. after you leave.. all that means is you can identify killer if something happens. So please get off the if I get paid , youll be safe line of bullshit.

And anyway as someone said.. more waitresses get killed than porngirls.
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Old 03-24-2004, 12:37 PM   #53
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You are right in this business agents dont give a shit, a model from of mine wound up in a hospital from a shoot a agent sent her on. The problem is models get greedy for cash and dont think. Going to the middle of fucken nowhere PA alone to shoot with a guy who works out of his apartment is fucking stupid especially when its a bdsm shoot.
I helped the police by sending them to OMP and other model boards where she probably booked the job because OMP keeps records of all back & forth e-mails & solicitations. When I contacted the OMP owner (who I know personally) they knew nothing about the case. I don't know if that specific information helped them in the case, but, at the time nobody knew who she was supposedly meeting for dinner and I thought that might help. Maybe it did, I don't know, but she was a cool chick from the many times that I talked to her on the phone trying to work out her booking for Adult.com and I wanted to help in any way I could.

I am, BTW - all for models bringing someone with them to thier shoot, as long as he/she doesn't watch and pays his own way. And, I am NOT an agent, but a scout for my productions, and my small management company - which usually only represents talent for a short time - then refers them to other agents for a fee. I stand behind all of my clients 100% and guarentee the models safety, their payment, and the legitimacy of the producer/photographer/company. I don't need tons of new clients because I work in the Mecca of Adult modeling - LA and have over 300 producers that I send talent to. Many hiring each model 10, 20, 50 or hundreds of times.

We also don't do bondage unless it is for super experienced people like Ken Marcus or Taboo Magazine - no offense to those fetish shooters I don't know yet - you just havent been personally refered to me. Too many weirdos in that biz.

This is a huge blow to the adult industry and someone will be the scapegoat I'm sure. But more importantly - it is traumatic to Taylor's family & friends - let's take a moment to honor thier pain & suffering.

Rest in peace Natel King aka Taylor Sumers
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Old 03-24-2004, 12:43 PM   #54
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I doubt that very highly.... just as I know you take more than 10% for a fact. Fact is the agents .. if you wanna call em that ... will send em ANYWHERE to make their money.
Wrong!

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And even if you meet someone in person... BIG FUCKIN DEAL.. after you leave.. all that means is you can identify killer if something happens. So please get off the if I get paid , youll be safe line of bullshit. [/B]
If I get paid, I do my job, or I help the police to do thiers.

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And anyway as someone said.. more waitresses get killed than porngirls. [/B]
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Old 03-24-2004, 01:57 PM   #55
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Yep....horrible shit.

I met this model a few months ago in the office of another photographer in L.A. She was down from Canada with her boyfriend. I declined shooting her. They were both super nice people. I feel very saddened by this.


I must say that for the past several years Ive been telling models I work with the DANGER SIGNS of working with certain people. I do not know how she met this supposed photographer - but these days......its more and more prevelant that models meet photographers online.

I believe its time for EVERYBODY to wise up about SAFETY and the steps everyone can take to avoid bad situations including first and foremost: REFERENCES & MORE REFERENCES.
Also taking along an escort, asking all the right questions, and emails - phone calls to establish CREDIBILITY.

Really sad.


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Old 03-24-2004, 02:07 PM   #56
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Gimme a flying fucking break with this im not an agent im a scout bullshit.. you charge people up to $200 per girl and take 20 % from girls Roy. What the fucking difference.. you can call yourself Tonto for all we care..
I can hear the trumpets playing now behind you as you say I get paid , I do my job and I help the police. Do they give you a little scout badge also.

Saying that by taking your percentage wouldve saved that girls life is assinine. One of the more rediculous things youve ever said.
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Old 03-24-2004, 02:09 PM   #57
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I feel terrible for that poor girl and I hope that guy is crucified, but being in this industry is a risk, especially out of LA . At least in LA almost everyone knows each other. Lots of scumbags there, but at least they will only rip off girls, not kill them
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Old 03-24-2004, 02:15 PM   #58
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Gimme a flying fucking break with this im not an agent im a scout bullshit.. you charge people up to $200 per girl and take 20 % from girls Roy. What the fucking difference.. you can call yourself Tonto for all we care..
I can hear the trumpets playing now behind you as you say I get paid , I do my job and I help the police. Do they give you a little scout badge also.

Saying that by taking your percentage wouldve saved that girls life is assinine. One of the more rediculous things youve ever said.
Try me. Mistreat my models and you better hope I call the cops. That's a guarentee.
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Old 03-24-2004, 02:26 PM   #59
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JErkoff we are not talking about mistreating models... we are talking about you sending a girl on a shoot with a guy you just met... i know for fact you will only send her there and not stay there with her.
We are talking about the line of bullshit that by them paying you 10% ,,, but we all know you take more... that they are guarenteed safe.
Once you leave , wtf you gonna do if something happens... get on your little $599 computer and go over OMP emails... Guess what.. TOO LATE.. if shes dead.. OMP wont hekp bring her back
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Old 03-24-2004, 02:31 PM   #60
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Old 03-24-2004, 02:41 PM   #61
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It really does suck...amazing it hasnt happened more.. especially back east.. but theres really nothing you can do. Its like letting your kids go to school.. you pray they get there and back safe.
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Old 03-24-2004, 02:43 PM   #62
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What a shame! I am very sad for her family. It is not right, she obviously feared for her life why didn't someone do something?
This is too close to home

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very sad. shooting with some unknown photographer in some small town is risky - somebody should have stopped her but with models or any young girl they are going to do what they are going to do.

i'm friends with both AMA and POV. POV does trot the girls around so it's a lot less likely that a creep like this killer would have done what he did if he knew there was a male coming to pick her up from the shoot. Or he'd kill the driver as well.

I hope OMP gives these girls some good safety guidelines - OMP is just crawling with creeps.

as far as having an escort to a shoot - hahaha - the escorts these girls would bring to their shoots are hardly the type of people u want hanging around your home or place of business.
Brian's had checks and cash stolen.
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The owner of FCFAgency in Toronto will speak live on
Toronto 1 (Channel 15) at 7pm EST. about this.

She was represented by FCFAgency in Toronto.
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I hope they talked to some good lawyers before speaking publicly. They should probably not to say anything to anyone right now.

Maybe they will just say how sorry they are about her death.
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The owner of FCFAgency in Toronto will speak live on
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She was represented by FCFAgency in Toronto.
Someone has the balls to say he represented her when she was sent to a apartment. Also these guys arent really agents, a agent is someone who guides and creates a career path for thier clients. I have test as a photographer for 2 people Score and Big naturals these are real companies I feel comfortable sending girls to.them. I tell any girl I meet always take someone with you especially if its some guy in a apartment or hotel room. On OMP I have filter requests for girls ,90% of the socalled photographers are slime.
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JErkoff we are not talking about mistreating models... we are talking about you sending a girl on a shoot with a guy you just met... i know for fact you will only send her there and not stay there with her.
We are talking about the line of bullshit that by them paying you 10% ,,, but we all know you take more... that they are guarenteed safe.
Once you leave , wtf you gonna do if something happens... get on your little $599 computer and go over OMP emails... Guess what.. TOO LATE.. if shes dead.. OMP wont hekp bring her back
You know what??? You are an ugly FAT jelous low budget pornographer fuck who sells 600 scenes for the price of my 6 scenes. Go try to solicit me as a fake photographer & watch me ignore you.

I NEVER SEND MODELS TO ANYONE WITHOUT TONS OF REFERENCES OR THAT I HAVENT KNOWN FOR 10-15 YEARS!!!
AND IF THERE IS A PROBLEM ON SET I TAKE CARE OF IT IMEDIATELY!!! THAT'S WHY I DON'T SEND MODELS TO YOU - YOU LOW BUDGET FUCK LIVING IN YOUR VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!!!
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I was just watching my local news NTV and they announced that her father is bringing her body home to Newfoundland to be buried. I know she went to MUN a few years back didn't know her family was from here.

Very sad news and its seems to be getting worse for models being killed by the photographer

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You know what??? You are an ugly FAT jelous low budget pornographer fuck who sells 600 scenes for the price of my 6 scenes. Go try to solicit me as a fake photographer & watch me ignore you.

I NEVER SEND MODELS TO ANYONE WITHOUT TONS OF REFERENCES OR THAT I HAVENT KNOWN FOR 10-15 YEARS!!!
AND IF THERE IS A PROBLEM ON SET I TAKE CARE OF IT IMEDIATELY!!! THAT'S WHY I DON'T SEND MODELS TO YOU - YOU LOW BUDGET FUCK LIVING IN YOUR VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!!!
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1st - youre as fat as I am...funny one Fat guy callin another fat
2nd - Van is long gone\
3rd - difference is after I sell my 600 scenes.. i still own em
4th - My van is alot nicer than that crack house you live in. Ive never seen a pool with water that shade of yellow.
5th - Difference between you and me is you cant think past the head of your cock.
6th - Jealous ??? LOL HAHAHAHAHAHA
7th - no need
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I was just watching my local news NTV and they announced that her father is bringing her body home to Newfoundland to be buried. I know she went to MUN a few years back didn't know her family was from here.

Very sad news and its seems to be getting worse for models being killed by the photographer

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Smurfette, have there been other cases like this... I dont remember any recent... unfortunately like MUTT says, people only need 1 instance to give ammo against the industry
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They said someone was arrested but did not release the name. Does anyone know if it was the photographer?
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first every girl should bring someone with them when they shoot pics, and bring something with them like pepper spray cause usualy photographers don't like to have someone else in the room a the same time, but still it sad to know you can't trust no one now
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