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project_naughty · 07-10-2004, 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by Nysus
GREAT! Now only if they built it ON THEIR LAND ONLY.

Cheers,
Matt

Well they are building it on their land. I don't know if you're up on your international law but the West Bank, Golan Heights and Gaza were captured during a defensive war. This means that they are now sovereign Israeli territory.
The reason behind that law is to stop agressive states from launching spurious attacks on others, like the Arabs did to teh Israelis, so that there's a chance they may have to pay a price for their agression.
For an example, if Canada was to invade the USA and the USA repelled the attack by counter-invading Canada, the USA could keep the part of Canada they had taken as their own as legitimate spoils of a defensive war.

In the case of Israel and the surrounding Jordyptian ("Palestinian") territory, Israel agreed to give back the land in return for peace. However, the Palis did not fulfil a single one of their obligations under the roadmap and therefore the ISraelis were left with no choice but to build the wall. And it has been a resounding success.
The Palis may whine and stupid Westerners may get sucked in to feeling sorry for them but at the end of the day, if all you want to do is murder Jews and throw their bodies into the Mediterranean, you might have to pay a price for this.
With Israel's arsenal of weapons, they could have just wiped the "Arab world" off the map. However, they chose not to do so. If the Palis had the Israelis' arsenal do you think they would have held back? They have shown three times since 1948 that they would not.

You don't have to like Jews if you do not want to, but at least do the decent thing and commit yourself to learing the facts about the Middle East.
If Israel falls, we all will. Islam isn't going to stop until it either conquers the world or is stopped by brave, smart people like how you will be once you commit yourself to learning the facts.

jayeff · 07-10-2004, 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
So be it, the mother fuckers ask for it and they are getting it.

Thanks for your contribution

From today's main op-ed in Ha'aretz, another major Israeli daily:

"...we must also not be afraid to state that 21st century Zionism will not survive if the new interpretation of the "Jewish state" is an apartheid state that rules over the Palestinians against their will. We must remember that the suffering of the Palestinians who live under Israeli occupation is as desperate as was that of the Jews of Europe in the late 19th century"

Roger · 07-10-2004, 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by Corleone
who'd leave his own land?! would you leave YOUR land?

I was being sarcastic.

jimmyf · 07-10-2004, 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by jayeff
Thanks for your contribution

From today's main op-ed in Ha'aretz, another major Israeli daily:

"...we must also not be afraid to state that 21st century Zionism will not survive if the new interpretation of the "Jewish state" is an apartheid state that rules over the Palestinians against their will. We must remember that the suffering of the Palestinians who live under Israeli occupation is as desperate as was that of the Jews of Europe in the late 19th century"

What part of WALL do you not understand.

Ain't no Jews going 2 rule over any Palestinians. Palestinians have there side of the wall and the Jews have there's.

Corleone · 07-10-2004, 10:58 AM

they've been in palestine long time before the jews came there..

Roger · 07-10-2004, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by project_naughty
Well they are building it on their land. I don't know if you're up on your international law but the West Bank, Golan Heights and Gaza were captured during a defensive war. This means that they are now sovereign Israeli territory.

What are you talking about? If I come to take away your home, you refuse and beat me up and I react by killing you, I'm just defending myself?

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If Israel falls, we all will. Islam isn't going to stop until it either conquers the world or is stopped by brave, smart people like how you will be once you commit yourself to learning the facts.

Boy, you're really terrified by them. It reminds me of Hitler and his views on Jewish people.

jimmyf · 07-10-2004, 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by Corleone
they've been in palestine long time before the jews came there..

read project_naughty post above.

Corleone · 07-10-2004, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
read project_naughty post above.

read it.. racistic and wrong..

project_naughty · 07-10-2004, 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by Corleone
they've been in palestine long time before the jews came there..

Wrong.......

Jews were there first. Not that that matters, of course. Things change.

In any case, there is no such thing as a "Palestinian". "Palestine" was a word invented in the 1920s. It was a British mandated territory which the UN decided to split between Jews and Muslims, seeing as the Muslims had been slaughtering the Jews there since the 7th century and especially over the last 100 years.
There is no Palestinian language, culture or currency. It's 'cos there's never been a Palestine.

I'm not one to be fooled by the liberal elite media (you won't know what that means).

JoeS · 07-10-2004, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
The wall has already stopped 90% of the attacks, I don't thinks it will be coming down. If I was them I'd speed up finishing it by 1000%.

Correct! You are right.

Thats really all that needs saying. Some people in the world and here on this board simply hate Jews and don't think they have a right to protect themselves.

Fletch XXX · 07-10-2004, 11:07 AM

I smile everytime someone dies in the middle east

including and not limited to muslims, jews, the iraq christians Chaldeans, even Romulans and Klingons!!!

Corleone · 07-10-2004, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by project_naughty
Wrong.......

Jews were there first. Not that that matters, of course. Things change.

In any case, there is no such thing as a "Palestinian". "Palestine" was a word invented in the 1920s. It was a British mandated territory which the UN decided to split between Jews and Muslims, seeing as the Muslims had been slaughtering the Jews there since the 7th century and especially over the last 100 years.
There is no Palestinian language, culture or currency. It's 'cos there's never been a Palestine.

I'm not one to be fooled by the liberal elite media (you won't know what that means).

greets to santa clause

jimmyf · 07-10-2004, 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by Corleone
read it.. racistic and wrong..

It is not wrong ...go do some research

Roger · 07-10-2004, 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by FileSafeGuard-Joe
Correct! You are right.

Thats really all that needs saying. Some people in the world and here on this board simply hate Jews and don't think they have a right to protect themselves.

Some people in the world and here on this board simple hate Muslims and don't think they have a right to live freely.

Israel wants to protect itself? Sure it can build a wall without taken Palestinian land in the process. Did anyone say no to that? Even the Palestinians agree with such a wall as long as it doesn't take away there land.

project_naughty · 07-10-2004, 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by Corleone
read it.. racistic and wrong..

No, it's correct. Go and read a book for god's sake.

And I'm not "racistic" [sic] against them. How can I be when I belong to the same "race" as them....

Corleone · 07-10-2004, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
It is not wrong ...go do some research

"If Israel falls, we all will. Islam isn't going to stop until it either conquers the world or is stopped by brave, smart people like how you will be once you commit yourself to learning the facts"

the apocalypse is coming

Roger · 07-10-2004, 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by project_naughty
No, it's correct. Go and read a book for god's sake.

And I'm not "racistic" [sic] against them. How can I be when I belong to the same "race" as them....

But you don't belong to the same religion as them.

jimmyf · 07-10-2004, 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by project_naughty

I'm not one to be fooled by the liberal elite media (you won't know what that means).

people on this board are more than liberal.

they are on the verge of if not down right ___________ I'll let you fill in the blank.

jimmyf · 07-10-2004, 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
I smile everytime someone dies in the middle east

including and not limited to muslims, jews, the iraq christians Chaldeans, even Romulans and Klingons!!!

You get 2 smile a lot.

Fletch XXX · 07-10-2004, 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
You get 2 smile a lot.

yep.

I realized long ago to stop caring about those mother fuckers and just watch them kill each other off.

"nothings gonna change the world"

they want to build a wall and kill Palestenians, neither me, the UN, or anyone is going to stop them.

therewofre, I will LAUGH OUT FUCKING LOUD everytime

should California build a wall along our borders? The US as a whole?

fuck everyone, let them die.

project_naughty · 07-10-2004, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by Roger
Some people in the world and here on this board simple hate Muslims and don't think they have a right to live freely.

Israel wants to protect itself? Sure it can build a wall without taken Palestinian land in the process. Did anyone say no to that? Even the Palestinians agree with such a wall as long as it doesn't take away there land.

The reason informed people hate Muslims is because of what the Muslims believe. If someone believed that you should die simply because you did not believe in their god would you not hate that person? Would you not want to first try to tell them that they were wrong and if that failed to try and protect yourself from them? If there was one lesson from WW2 it was that is someone says they want to kill you then you should believe them.

And the Palestinians DO NOT AGREE TO THE WALL UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE BE IT IN ISRAEL PROPER OR IN THE DISPUTED TERRITORIES. The Palis want to iradicate the state of Israel and in the current absence of their own nuclear weapons the wall/ fence is stopping them from acheiving that goal.
Speaking of walls, the Saudis have also built a wall between themselves and Yemen to stop terrorist infiltration into their country. It has been successful. There is also a wall between N and S Korea to stop infiltration from the North. It has so far been successful.
If the Palis cease trying to destroy Israel the Israelis will dismantle the wall. It's as simple as that.
Israel has it's own resident Arab population who have full rights and even have Arab MPs in the Knesset.

Corleone · 07-10-2004, 11:21 AM

OME POPULATION FIGURES FOR MANDATE PALESTINE.

In 1880 there were 24,000 Jews living among 450,000 Palestinians.
In 1914 there were 56,000 Jews living among 715,000 Palestinians.
In 1922 there were 83,000 Jews living among 663,000 Palestinians.
In 1936 there were 385,400 Jews living among 983,200 Palestinians.
In 1940 there were 467,000 Jews living among 1,050,000 Palestinians.
In 1946 there were 600,000 Jews living among 1,300,000 Palestinians.

project_naughty · 07-10-2004, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by Roger
But you don't belong to the same religion as them.

It's impossible to be racist against a religion or ideology because a religion or ideology is not a race. I almost feel embarrassed for you having to spell that out.

Think McFly, think.

Lane · 07-10-2004, 11:24 AM

Is there a reason why they wouldnt build it in their own land?

Corleone · 07-10-2004, 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by project_naughty
It's impossible to be racist against a religion or ideology because a religion or ideology is not a race. I almost feel embarrassed for you having to spell that out.

Think McFly, think.

aaaaah.. so you hate ppl because they call their god allah and not jahve.. thats much better!

Lane · 07-10-2004, 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by project_naughty
It's impossible to be racist against a religion or ideology because a religion or ideology is not a race. I almost feel embarrassed for you having to spell that out.

Think McFly, think.

religion is included in the discrimination laws

project_naughty · 07-10-2004, 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by Corleone
OME POPULATION FIGURES FOR MANDATE PALESTINE.

In 1880 there were 24,000 Jews living among 450,000 Palestinians.
In 1914 there were 56,000 Jews living among 715,000 Palestinians.
In 1922 there were 83,000 Jews living among 663,000 Palestinians.
In 1936 there were 385,400 Jews living among 983,200 Palestinians.
In 1940 there were 467,000 Jews living among 1,050,000 Palestinians.
In 1946 there were 600,000 Jews living among 1,300,000 Palestinians.

Several reasons for the figures:

1. That area of the world was the traditional Jewish homeland.
2. As Jews were expelled from their host Arab/ European countries during pogroms the Israel area was one area they could go to.
3. More Jews being born than dying, same with the resident Muslims.

Roger · 07-10-2004, 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by project_naughty
The reason informed people hate Muslims is because of what the Muslims believe. If someone believed that you should die simply because you did not believe in their god would you not hate that person?

You're saying that the Muslims believe you should die simply because you don't believe in their god? Gimme a break.

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And the Palestinians DO NOT AGREE TO THE WALL UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE BE IT IN ISRAEL PROPER OR IN THE DISPUTED TERRITORIES.

A Palestinian official stated on TV that what Israel does in there side of the border is none of the business of Palestinians and they can build a wall as long as it doesn't take away Palestinian land. That was long ago, just when the wall was starting.

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The Palis want to iradicate the state of Israel and in the current absence of their own nuclear weapons the wall/ fence is stopping them from acheiving that goal.

Really? All I see is acts of desperation and revenge. On the other hand, Sharon has stated that he's in Israel to accomplish Biblical prophecies and that the settlements where built to make the creation of a Palestinian state an impossible task.

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Speaking of walls, the Saudis have also built a wall between themselves and Yemen to stop terrorist infiltration into their country. It has been successful. There is also a wall between N and S Korea to stop infiltration from the North. It has so far been successful.

And did they build that wall inside Yemen taking away some of it's land in the process?

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If the Palis cease trying to destroy Israel the Israelis will dismantle the wall. It's as simple as that.
Israel has it's own resident Arab population who have full rights and even have Arab MPs in the Knesset.

Israel is a Jewish state, meaning it's non-democratic, they'll never allow a Muslim population to have the majority of votes. You already know that.

project_naughty · 07-10-2004, 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by Corleone
aaaaah.. so you hate ppl because they call their god allah and not jahve.. thats much better!

No, because I'm not Jewish. You're pretty dumb, making stupid assumptions like that.

project_naughty · 07-10-2004, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by Lane
religion is included in the discrimination laws

So........... hypothetically if I made a religion which called for the slaughter of all cats, dogs and babies then you would not be allowed to disagree with me where you live.

Where I live it is illegal to discriminate (in employement etc) on grounds of religion but there's no law saying I have to respect their religion. If I want to say "I don't like Islam because it calls for the death of me and all people like me (including you)" then I am allowed to. And so I should be.

genomega · 07-10-2004, 11:40 AM

Did anyone think that the euro nazis would rule any other way?

It's not the palestinians land there was no such thing as a palestinian it's a made up name. All the land they squat on now belongs to egypt or jordan. No other country will have this bunch of thugs. The jews were there in 500bc.

Corleone · 07-10-2004, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by project_naughty
So........... hypothetically if I made a religion which called for the slaughter of all cats, dogs and babies then you would not be allowed to disagree with me where you live.

Where I live it is illegal to discriminate (in employement etc) on grounds of religion but there's no law saying I have to respect their religion. If I want to say "I don't like Islam because it calls for the death of me and all people like me (including you)" then I am allowed to. And so I should be.

i've a good book for you

whats wrong with the islam? peacefull religion. just because some fuckers you hate them all? bin laden is no muslim

Roger · 07-10-2004, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by project_naughty
It's impossible to be racist against a religion or ideology because a religion or ideology is not a race. I almost feel embarrassed for you having to spell that out.

Did I say you're racist? I'm just saying you're one of those Arab Christians who hate Muslims with a blind passion.

Theo · 07-10-2004, 11:47 AM

we had a month without Israel-Palestine threads,cant we keep it like this?

Fletch XXX · 07-10-2004, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by genomega
Did anyone think that the euro nazis would rule any other way?

It's not the palestinians land there was no such thing as a palestinian it's a made up name.

kind of like the word semite.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=semite

if i hate Arabs i am anti-semite!

directfiesta · 07-10-2004, 11:57 AM

Nice to see who are the zionists here....

project_naughty · 07-10-2004, 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by Roger
You're saying that the Muslims believe you should die simply because you don't believe in their god? Gimme a break.

Yes that's exactly what I'm saying. You mean you've never read the Qu'ran and yet you assume you know what it says? It says, among other things, "slay the unbelievers wherever you find them". As someone who does not believe in the Judeo/ Islamic god I am someone to be killed, according to Sharia Law. In Islam, the sentence for being an atheist, Hindu, Zoroastrian, Buddhist or Shintoist is death.

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A Palestinian official stated on TV that what Israel does in there side of the border is none of the business of Palestinians and they can build a wall as long as it doesn't take away Palestinian land. That was long ago, just when the wall was starting.

That Palestinian official was not speaking for his Government or countrymen. It is the stated aim of the Palestinian Authority to kill the Jews and throw their bodies into the sea. It has been since 1948. That is why the Palestinian flag incorporates the whole of Israel, not just the West Bank and Gaza.

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Really? All I see is acts of desperation and revenge. On the other hand, Sharon has stated that he's in Israel to accomplish Biblical prophecies and that the settlements where built to make the creation of a Palestinian state an impossible task.

There a some extremeist Jews who believe that they are there to acheive Biblical prophesies. Most Jews are secular and do not have a literal view of their religion. Most Jews are cultural Jews only. The Israeli Government is taken up largely be secularists, not Orthodox Jews.

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And did they build that wall inside Yemen taking away some of it's land in the process?

I don't know, but the point I was making is that security walls can and do work in keeping out terrorists.

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Israel is a Jewish state, meaning it's non-democratic, they'll never allow a Muslim population to have the majority of votes. You already know that.

They ARE a democratic state as they are a parliamentary democracy. Their state religion is Judaism in the same way that the state religion in my country (the UK) is Christianity, even though there are less than 2 million practicing Christians here. If Israel ever allowed Islam to become dominant it would be an act of suicide.

project_naughty · 07-10-2004, 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by Corleone
i've a good book for you

whats wrong with the islam? peacefull religion. just because some fuckers you hate them all? bin laden is no muslim

Is Islam a peaceful religion? Go read the Qu'ran and find out, dummie. And yes, Bin Laden is very thorough in his following of his religion.

project_naughty · 07-10-2004, 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by Roger
Did I say you're racist? I'm just saying you're one of those Arab Christians who hate Muslims with a blind passion.

Wrong again. I'm not an Arab Christian. I'm a regular English dude who doesn't believe in a vengeful god and who likes porn (me, not god).
You haven't been getting many things right today

directfiesta · 07-10-2004, 12:11 PM

Once this wall is completed, Israel will build another one to grab more land.

This land seizure has been going on from day one on any, many and different reasons valid to Israel only.

http://www.arabhra.org/article26/factsheet2.htm

Confiscation Laws

Palestinian Arab land in Israel is expropriated by a total of 36 different laws and regulations. The main ones are as follows:

Absentee Property Law (1950): by which the State acquired control of all the property (inc. land) left behind by those persons who were expelled or fled their homes during the 1948 war. The absentee status does not change should the person come back or actually still be in the country. Then they are known as ?present absentees.?

Land (Acquisition for Public Purposes) Ordinance (1943): which authorises the government to confiscate land for public purposes with minimal compensation. 40%of the owner?s land can be confiscated without compensation. Public purposes are usually Jewish: From 1200 dunams confiscated in Nazareth for public purposes, 80 dunams were used for public buildings and the rest to build Jewish housing.

Defence (Emergency) Regulation 125 (1945): which grants military commanders the authority to forcibly declare areas ?closed? and so prevent anyone from entering or leaving them without special permission. This regulation is used to evacuate areas, and on occasions entire villages, so as to facilitate the transfer of ownership with minimised resistance.12 No compensation is ever offered.

Agricultural Settlement (Restrictions on the Use of Agricultural Land and Water) Law (1967): which prevents Jewish leaseholders of State lands from subleasing them back to Palestinian Arabs.

Fletch XXX · 07-10-2004, 12:12 PM

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Yes that's exactly what I'm saying.

Should I start quoting the cheristian bible now where it says basically the same crap?

how about lines like god sending revenge to kill the children of sinners.

"God Will Kill the Children of Sinners

If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)"

the bible is filled with death, slavery and rape.

have you read it lately?

UI keep a copy on my desk for times like this.

The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

note the line: I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.'

god wants you to die because you work on Sabbath!

pick up a bible instead of a mouse.

Fletch XXX · 07-10-2004, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by project_naughty
Wrong again. I'm not an Arab Christian. I'm a regular English dude who doesn't believe in a vengeful god and who likes porn (me, not god).
You haven't been getting many things right today

AGain, have you ever read the bible?

you dont believe in a vengeful god?

that isnt what I learned in 10 years of christian school.

more killing:

Jephthah Kills 42,000

The leaders of Ephraim responded, "The men of Gilead are nothing more than rejects from Ephraim and Manasseh." So Jephthah called out his army and attacked the men of Ephraim and defeated them. Jephthah captured the shallows of the Jordan, and whenever a fugitive from Ephraim tried to go back across, the men of Gilead would challenge him. "Are you a member of the tribe of Ephraim?" they would ask. If the man said, "No, I'm not," they would tell him to say "Shibboleth." If he was from Ephraim, he would say "Sibboleth," because people from Ephraim cannot pronounce the word correctly. Then they would take him and kill him at the shallows of the Jordan River. So forty-two thousand Ephraimites were killed at that time. (Judges 12:4-6 NLT)your religion will be the death of all of you.

again, pick up a book instead of an opinion that is incorect.

your bible says the same damn shit the Koran says.

its all the same shit.

jimmyf · 07-10-2004, 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Should I start quoting the cheristian bible now where it says basically the same crap?

how about lines like god sending revenge to kill the children of sinners.

"God Will Kill the Children of Sinners

If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)"

the bible is filled with death, slavery and rape.

have you read it lately?

UI keep a copy on my desk for times like this.

The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

note the line: I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.'

god wants you to die because you work on Sabbath!

pick up a bible instead of a mouse.

fuck god, all of' em

Fletch XXX · 07-10-2004, 12:16 PM

Kill Priests of Other Religions

Then Jehoiada made a covenant between the LORD and the king and the people that they would be the LORD's people. He also made a covenant between the king and the people. And all the people of the land went over to the temple of Baal and tore it down. They demolished the altars and smashed the idols to pieces, and they killed Mattan the priest of Baal in front of the altars. Jehoiada the priest stationed guards at the Temple of the LORD. Then the commanders, the Carite mercenaries, the guards, and all the people of the land escorted the king from the Temple of the LORD. They went through the gate of the guards and into the palace, and the king took his seat on the royal throne. (2 Kings 11:17-19 NLT)

Fletch XXX · 07-10-2004, 12:16 PM

Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle

For the LORD had said to Moses, 'Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.' (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)

The Israelites Kill all the Males of Edom

Years before, David had gone to Edom with Joab, his army commander, to bury some Israelites who had died in battle. While there, the Israelite army had killed nearly every male in Edom. Joab and the army had stayed there for six months, killing them. (1 Kings 11:15-16 NLT)

Corleone · 07-10-2004, 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by project_naughty
Is Islam a peaceful religion? Go read the Qu'ran and find out, dummie. And yes, Bin Laden is very thorough in his following of his religion.

whats worng with the Qu'ran ? some jihad parts=?

we've the same in the christian bible..

Exodus
23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,
24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, Lev. 24.19, 20 · Deut. 19.21 · Mt. 5.38 hand for hand, foot for foot,
25 burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

15 ¶ And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death.
16 ¶ And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death. Deut. 24.7
17 ¶ And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. Lev. 20.9 · Mt. 15.4 · Mk. 7.10

You read the bible? you're catholic?

you think thats a book with phrases how you grow the best flowers?

Fletch XXX · 07-10-2004, 12:18 PM

Kill People of Other Religions

Far be it from us to desert the law and the ordinances. We will not obey the king's words by turning aside from our religion to the right hand or to the left." When he had finished speaking these words, a Jew came forward in the sight of all to offer sacrifice on the altar in Modein, according to the king's command. When Mattathias saw it, he burned with zeal and his heart was stirred. He gave vent to righteous anger; he ran and killed him on the altar. (1 Maccabees 2:21-24 NRS)

how many quotes you people want????

God Kills 70,000 Men Over a Census

(God punishes David for ordering a census of his people.) Yahweh spoke to Gad, David's seer, saying, Go and speak to David, saying, Thus says Yahweh, I offer you three things: choose you one of them, that I may do it to you. So Gad came to David, and said to him, Thus says Yahweh, Take which you will: either three years of famine; or three months to be consumed before your foes, while the sword of your enemies overtakes you; or else three days the sword of Yahweh, even pestilence in the land, and the angel of Yahweh destroying throughout all the borders of Israel. Now therefore consider what answer I shall return to him who sent me. David said to Gad, I am in a great strait: let me fall, I pray, into the hand of Yahweh; for very great are his mercies: and let me not fall into the hand of man. So Yahweh sent a pestilence on Israel; and there fell of Israel seventy thousand men. (1 Chronicles 21:9-14 WEB)

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Corleone · 07-10-2004, 12:20 PM

ah i see fletch has some good quotes already...

yeah the bible has evil parts too ..

Roger · 07-10-2004, 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by project_naughty
Yes that's exactly what I'm saying. You mean you've never read the Qu'ran and yet you assume you know what it says? It says, among other things, "slay the unbelievers wherever you find them". As someone who does not believe in the Judeo/ Islamic god I am someone to be killed, according to Sharia Law. In Islam, the sentence for being an atheist, Hindu, Zoroastrian, Buddhist or Shintoist is death.

Most Muslims believe that this quote was valid only for a certain period of time when mohamed or whatever his name is was alive.
But hey, if you really believe that slaying the unbelievers is what the majority of muslims think, there's nothing that'll make you change your mind.

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That Palestinian official was not speaking for his Government or countrymen. It is the stated aim of the Palestinian Authority to kill the Jews and throw their bodies into the sea. It has been since 1948. That is why the Palestinian flag incorporates the whole of Israel, not just the West Bank and Gaza.

Again with the excuses. I wouldn't have expected them to welcome an Israeli state with open arms back then.
The past is past and we must deal with the present situation. Sharon has clearly stated his intentions time and time again, it is he who doesn't want a Palestinian state. It is he who believes in biblical prophecies and in some sort of holy land/apocalypse/whatever.

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There a some extremeist Jews who believe that they are there to acheive Biblical prophesies. Most Jews are secular and do not have a literal view of their religion. Most Jews are cultural Jews only. The Israeli Government is taken up largely be secularists, not Orthodox Jews.

Many secular Jews aren't living in Israel. Do I also have to mention the Christian zionists who invest hundreds of millions of dollars per year to encourage poor Jewish people from abroad to go live in Israeli settlements? The problem would've been much easier to solve if it wasn't for the Christian zionists who put there nose in it and try to stirr even more trouble between Israelis and Palestinians. You can have as many secular Jews as you want, the number of Christian zionists vastly outnumbers them and pushes the balance in favor of the religious ones.

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I don't know, but the point I was making is that security walls can and do work in keeping out terrorists.

The point I was making, is that I don't care. It can help them with security? Excellent then, I don't have a problem with it if they put it on there side of the border.

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They ARE a democratic state as they are a parliamentary democracy. Their state religion is Judaism in the same way that the state religion in my country (the UK) is Christianity, even though there are less than 2 million practicing Christians here. If Israel ever allowed Islam to become dominant it would be an act of suicide.

No, they ARE a Jewish state. The UK is not called a Christian state.

Roger · 07-10-2004, 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by project_naughty
Wrong again. I'm not an Arab Christian. I'm a regular English dude who doesn't believe in a vengeful god and who likes porn (me, not god).
You haven't been getting many things right today

So now you're saying that you're not Christian and you're not of Arab race.

07-10-2004, 11:07 AM	#61
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	I smile everytime someone dies in the middle east including and not limited to muslims, jews, the iraq christians Chaldeans, even Romulans and Klingons!!! __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

07-10-2004, 11:24 AM	#74
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	Is there a reason why they wouldnt build it in their own land? __________________

07-10-2004, 11:40 AM	#81
genomega Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: NW Florida Posts: 1,190	Did anyone think that the euro nazis would rule any other way? It's not the palestinians land there was no such thing as a palestinian it's a made up name. All the land they squat on now belongs to egypt or jordan. No other country will have this bunch of thugs. The jews were there in 500bc. __________________ No Jerk TGP Gallery Monitor MoneyBookers

07-10-2004, 11:57 AM	#86
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 29,627	Nice to see who are the zionists here.... __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time .... Last edited by directfiesta; 07-10-2004 at 11:59 AM..

07-10-2004, 12:11 PM	#90
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 29,627	Once this wall is completed, Israel will build another one to grab more land. This land seizure has been going on from day one on any, many and different reasons valid to Israel only. http://www.arabhra.org/article26/factsheet2.htm Confiscation Laws Palestinian Arab land in Israel is expropriated by a total of 36 different laws and regulations. The main ones are as follows: Absentee Property Law (1950): by which the State acquired control of all the property (inc. land) left behind by those persons who were expelled or fled their homes during the 1948 war. The absentee status does not change should the person come back or actually still be in the country. Then they are known as ?present absentees.? Land (Acquisition for Public Purposes) Ordinance (1943): which authorises the government to confiscate land for public purposes with minimal compensation. 40%of the owner?s land can be confiscated without compensation. Public purposes are usually Jewish: From 1200 dunams confiscated in Nazareth for public purposes, 80 dunams were used for public buildings and the rest to build Jewish housing. Defence (Emergency) Regulation 125 (1945): which grants military commanders the authority to forcibly declare areas ?closed? and so prevent anyone from entering or leaving them without special permission. This regulation is used to evacuate areas, and on occasions entire villages, so as to facilitate the transfer of ownership with minimised resistance.12 No compensation is ever offered. Agricultural Settlement (Restrictions on the Use of Agricultural Land and Water) Law (1967): which prevents Jewish leaseholders of State lands from subleasing them back to Palestinian Arabs. __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

07-10-2004, 10:58 AM	#55
Corleone C.R.E.A.M Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,262	they've been in palestine long time before the jews came there..

07-10-2004, 11:21 AM	#72
Corleone C.R.E.A.M Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,262	OME POPULATION FIGURES FOR MANDATE PALESTINE. In 1880 there were 24,000 Jews living among 450,000 Palestinians. In 1914 there were 56,000 Jews living among 715,000 Palestinians. In 1922 there were 83,000 Jews living among 663,000 Palestinians. In 1936 there were 385,400 Jews living among 983,200 Palestinians. In 1940 there were 467,000 Jews living among 1,050,000 Palestinians. In 1946 there were 600,000 Jews living among 1,300,000 Palestinians.

07-10-2004, 11:47 AM	#84
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	we had a month without Israel-Palestine threads,cant we keep it like this?

07-10-2004, 12:16 PM	#94
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Kill Priests of Other Religions Then Jehoiada made a covenant between the LORD and the king and the people that they would be the LORD's people. He also made a covenant between the king and the people. And all the people of the land went over to the temple of Baal and tore it down. They demolished the altars and smashed the idols to pieces, and they killed Mattan the priest of Baal in front of the altars. Jehoiada the priest stationed guards at the Temple of the LORD. Then the commanders, the Carite mercenaries, the guards, and all the people of the land escorted the king from the Temple of the LORD. They went through the gate of the guards and into the palace, and the king took his seat on the royal throne. (2 Kings 11:17-19 NLT) __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

07-10-2004, 12:18 PM	#97
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Kill People of Other Religions Far be it from us to desert the law and the ordinances. We will not obey the king's words by turning aside from our religion to the right hand or to the left." When he had finished speaking these words, a Jew came forward in the sight of all to offer sacrifice on the altar in Modein, according to the king's command. When Mattathias saw it, he burned with zeal and his heart was stirred. He gave vent to righteous anger; he ran and killed him on the altar. (1 Maccabees 2:21-24 NRS) how many quotes you people want???? God Kills 70,000 Men Over a Census (God punishes David for ordering a census of his people.) Yahweh spoke to Gad, David's seer, saying, Go and speak to David, saying, Thus says Yahweh, I offer you three things: choose you one of them, that I may do it to you. So Gad came to David, and said to him, Thus says Yahweh, Take which you will: either three years of famine; or three months to be consumed before your foes, while the sword of your enemies overtakes you; or else three days the sword of Yahweh, even pestilence in the land, and the angel of Yahweh destroying throughout all the borders of Israel. Now therefore consider what answer I shall return to him who sent me. David said to Gad, I am in a great strait: let me fall, I pray, into the hand of Yahweh; for very great are his mercies: and let me not fall into the hand of man. So Yahweh sent a pestilence on Israel; and there fell of Israel seventy thousand men. (1 Chronicles 21:9-14 WEB) http://www.evilbible.com/ __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

07-10-2004, 12:20 PM	#98
Corleone C.R.E.A.M Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,262	ah i see fletch has some good quotes already... yeah the bible has evil parts too ..