Why hasn't the U.N. been dismantled? - GoFuckYourself.com

Nysus · 07-10-2004, 10:26 AM

It's a joke with veto powers.

Cheers,
Matt

Roger · 07-10-2004, 10:27 AM

Because without giving veto powers to the superpowers then those countries will leave and the UN will be dismanteled.

Phoenix · 07-10-2004, 10:31 AM

i was hoping for a well thought out argument

ah well

BRISK · 07-10-2004, 10:38 AM

Why do you write

Cheers,
Matt

at the end of all your posts?

Nysus · 07-10-2004, 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by Roger
Because without giving veto powers to the superpowers then those countries will leave and the UN will be dismanteled.

Why should superpowers that will only veto anything against them be apart of that anyways?

Cheers,
Matt

Nysus · 07-10-2004, 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK
Why do you write

Cheers,
Matt

at the end of all your posts?

As Willy would say;

I already heard that one you fuckin unoriginal bastard go suck a cock ya piece of fuckin repeatin shit.

Why did you post?

Cheers,
Matt

BRISK · 07-10-2004, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by Nysus
As Willy would say;

I already heard that one you fuckin unoriginal bastard go suck a cock ya piece of fuckin repeatin shit.

Why did you post?

Cheers,
Matt

You're a bit sensitive about that topic.

BradM · 07-10-2004, 11:00 AM

Yeah, I always thought it was stupid he writes that too. Put it in your sig or something.

Nysus · 07-10-2004, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK
You're a bit sensitive about that topic.

LOL. Not at all, I've just been asked that 3 times in the past week or two. Why the fuck does it bother people so much? Get a hobby.

BradM - Yes because putting it in my signature would work well to make the point to be more personal.

Cheers,
Matt

BRISK · 07-10-2004, 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by Nysus
LOL. Not at all, I've just been asked that 3 times in the past week or two. Why the fuck does it bother people so much? Get a hobby.

BradM - Yes because putting it in my signature would work well to make the point to be more personal.

Cheers,
Matt

I never wrote anything to suggest that it bothers me. I only asked why you do it.

Jakke PNG · 07-10-2004, 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by Nysus
Why the fuck does it bother people so much?

It's pointless and annoying. Might as well change your typing color to some other and I'd welcome you as first to my ignorelist

Lane · 07-10-2004, 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by Nysus
LOL. Not at all, I've just been asked that 3 times in the past week or two. Why the fuck does it bother people so much? Get a hobby.

I would figure its a clue that it looks a bit weird?

But then, not everyone cares about looking weird.

I used to do it too, when I was on AWI and signatures were off, but it really has become pointless over time.

titmowse · 07-10-2004, 11:30 AM

WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED

to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and

to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and

to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained, and

to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,

AND FOR THESE ENDS

to practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbours, and

to unite our strength to maintain international peace and security, and

to ensure, by the acceptance of principles and the institution of methods, that armed force shall not be used, save in the common interest, and

to employ international machinery for the promotion of the economic and social advancement of all peoples,

HAVE RESOLVED TO COMBINE OUR EFFORTS TO ACCOMPLISH THESE AIMS

Nysus · 07-10-2004, 11:33 AM

Phoenix - The arguments have been made by many already, exists in lots of literature.

BRISK - Sure, okay.

TeenGodFather - I'm sure seeing the "You have this person on ignore. Click here to view their response." would be more annoying.

Lane - Well if you're trying to get people to change from what you prefer / from being weird (or different than the norm) then you might as well go after Juicy for his bright and colourful smiley in his signature...

Cheers,
Matt

Nysus · 07-10-2004, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by titmowse
WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED

to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and

to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and

to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained, and

to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,

AND FOR THESE ENDS

to practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbours, and

to unite our strength to maintain international peace and security, and

to ensure, by the acceptance of principles and the institution of methods, that armed force shall not be used, save in the common interest, and

to employ international machinery for the promotion of the economic and social advancement of all peoples,

HAVE RESOLVED TO COMBINE OUR EFFORTS TO ACCOMPLISH THESE AIMS

And then you need to add....

EXCEPT ANY SUPERPOWER COUNTRIES THAT DON'T WANT TO FOLLOW THIS DON'T HAVE TO

Cheers,
Matt

genomega · 07-10-2004, 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by Nysus
And then you need to add....

EXCEPT ANY SUPERPOWER COUNTRIES THAT DON'T WANT TO FOLLOW THIS DON'T HAVE TO

Cheers,
Matt

This worked well until the thugs and crooks took over.

BabeHunter · 07-10-2004, 12:04 PM

The U.N is useless.

nothing to add

Phoenix · 07-10-2004, 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by Nysus
Phoenix - The arguments have been made by many already, exists in lots of literature.

BRISK - Sure, okay.

TeenGodFather - I'm sure seeing the "You have this person on ignore. Click here to view their response." would be more annoying.

Lane - Well if you're trying to get people to change from what you prefer / from being weird (or different than the norm) then you might as well go after Juicy for his bright and colourful smiley in his signature...

Cheers,
Matt

well i was just wondering what your post was about...i mean, if i start a thread on a subject i usually give some material.

Not trashing you, you are usually well spoken, and i wanted more then just the few words you tossed out there. What has set you off?

i happen to think we are going to see an even larger presence from the UN as world government is the only possible salvation for us.

directfiesta · 07-10-2004, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by genomega
This worked well until the thugs and crooks took over.

Example:

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US to veto expected UN resolution condemning Israel
By TOVAH LAZAROFF AND AP

The United States has reassured Israel that it will veto a United Nations resolution calling for imposing sanctions on Israel for its construction of the West Bank security fence, which the International Court of Justice deemed as illegal in its Friday ruling.

Diplomatic sources in the Prime Minister's Office told Israel Radio Saturday that if the Palestinians decide to pass the ICJ's ruling for a discussion at the United Nations' General Assembly and press for the issuing of a resolution condemning Israel, the United States will veto such resolution.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1089257373798

Webby · 07-10-2004, 01:52 PM

directfiesta:

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The United States has reassured Israel that it will veto a United Nations resolution calling for imposing sanctions on Israel for its construction of the West Bank security fence, which the International Court of Justice deemed as illegal in its Friday ruling.

Yet another reason why some claim the UN is "useless" - simply because they are not in agreement. It's like the little boys in the school yard with their own "agendas" and if, necessary lying like hell to the prove the point - eg "evidence of WMD in Iraq".

There is also "disagreement" over the ICJ - the rogue regimes in this world clearly don't need any International Court of Justice (or International Criminal Court), telling em how it is.

The UN represents the International Community - whether some like it or not. Each member state is has a say - if they don't like it, quit using "excuses" and piss off out of the "International Community".

Nysus · 07-10-2004, 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by Phoenix
well i was just wondering what your post was about...i mean, if i start a thread on a subject i usually give some material.

Not trashing you, you are usually well spoken, and i wanted more then just the few words you tossed out there. What has set you off?

i happen to think we are going to see an even larger presence from the UN as world government is the only possible salvation for us.

I just didn't have time to post any information. It's just something that's always been something unjust and bothered me. What 'set me off' is just the comments that are right that the US will veto anything against Israel, just another example of the crap that goes on.

And I agree with you that something larger will happen, it will have to happen.

Never thought you were trashing me either. Not sure why everyone thinks I'm being attacked.

Cheers,
Matt

Nysus · 07-10-2004, 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
directfiesta:

Yet another reason why some claim the UN is "useless" - simply because they are not in agreement. It's like the little boys in the school yard with their own "agendas" and if, necessary lying like hell to the prove the point - eg "evidence of WMD in Iraq".

There is also "disagreement" over the ICJ - the rogue regimes in this world clearly don't need any International Court of Justice (or International Criminal Court), telling em how it is.

The UN represents the International Community - whether some like it or not. Each member state is has a say - if they don't like it, quit using "excuses" and piss off out of the "International Community".

Well said.

Cheers,
Matt

Pleasurepays · 07-10-2004, 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by Nysus
I just didn't have time to post any information. It's just something that's always been something unjust and bothered me. What 'set me off' is just the comments that are right that the US will veto anything against Israel, just another example of the crap that goes on.

And I agree with you that something larger will happen, it will have to happen.

Never thought you were trashing me either. Not sure why everyone thinks I'm being attacked.

Cheers,
Matt

I think the UN is a waste as well with the exception of a tolken relief effort on a occasional humanitarian issue once the problem has already reached a catestrophic or endemic state.

It's 180 something perspectives, motivations, religious ideaologies and political agenda's that never mesh on any real problem.

<IMX> · 07-10-2004, 04:56 PM

Probably, even though I don't like the UN, and believe the structure lends it to be almost irrelevant b/c of the security council veto power...it is still an important tool for keeping the world enganged.

The U.S. can be too heavy handed at times, and the U.N. allows some form of moderation. I think the war in Iraq has shown how important a bit of moderation can be, if only to force countries to be accountable to display their rational.

Unfortunately, the U.N. only has any sort of say with regards to the U.S., b/c they are really the only nation who considers any sort of moral authority to rectify global problems. Therefore, the U.S. will actually LISTEN and try to present a case to the U.N. and not just try to steam role their puppet authority.

So, in absence of the cold war superpower (that the U.S. would think about before engaging in any war outside S. america), the U.N. serves as a role almost like a priest...

they can only condemn you or bless you, but can't help you or hurt you. Oh yeah, you can buy their blessing as well.

Never the less, it is always good to be reminded that other people are watching wha tyou do.

Pleasurepays--
that's also why the EU as a political union won't do shit.

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Originally posted by Pleasurepays
I think the UN is a waste as well with the exception of a tolken relief effort on a occasional humanitarian issue once the problem has already reached a catestrophic or endemic state.

It's 180 something perspectives, motivations, religious ideaologies and political agenda's that never mesh on any real problem.

07-10-2004, 10:26 AM	#1
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Nysus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,817	Phoenix - The arguments have been made by many already, exists in lots of literature. BRISK - Sure, okay. TeenGodFather - I'm sure seeing the "You have this person on ignore. Click here to view their response." would be more annoying. Lane - Well if you're trying to get people to change from what you prefer / from being weird (or different than the norm) then you might as well go after Juicy for his bright and colourful smiley in his signature... Cheers, Matt __________________ What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645

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BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Yeah, I always thought it was stupid he writes that too. Put it in your sig or something.

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