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Old 09-03-2004, 07:10 PM   #151
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lol yeah sure.. who cares about international laws... Let's lift those and let any countries handle their security as they please... Maybe Russia can just blow out Chechnya.. Israel could just completely destroy Palestine.. Pakistan can just launch a nuclear attack on India before India do it on them... Lets do it the George Bush way and discredit any type of laws the world community tries to establish to maintain world order...

UN ? Fuck it! No one tells americans what to do! lol
Siorry, but I am not going to give any credit to someone from another country . . . . naturally you want to have something to say about how we run things.

You handle Canada, we will handle USA.
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Old 09-03-2004, 07:15 PM   #152
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Sorry, but I am not going to give any credit to someone from another country . . . . naturally you want to have something to say about how we run things.

You handle Canada, we will handle USA.

Now run along, you're not making any money with your mouth closed and your fingers on the keyboard.
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Old 09-03-2004, 07:25 PM   #153
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I think it would make for more effective results if instead of all the various things some try to motivate people to vote there was a coordinated effort to attatch stigma and shame in not voting.
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Old 09-03-2004, 07:33 PM   #154
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Siorry, but I am not going to give any credit to someone from another country . . . . naturally you want to have something to say about how we run things.

You handle Canada, we will handle USA.
lol.. my point exactly...

did you fell to realize that I was talking about internatinal laws, the role of UN, its importance in maintaining a minimum of world order.... and the importance for countries like the US to respect those laws if we want.. as the world community.. to be able to to enforce the laws upon violating countries ...

How can you ask countries to respect international laws and treaties if yourself claim that NO ONE can tell you what to do? What kind of credibility do you have when you ask certain countries to respect treaties when it comes to biological warfare for exemple.. how can you tell those countries that this is NOT the right way to protect themselves!??? How can you tell a country not to attack another one if they claim to only protect themselves!?

I dont expect a wise response from your part.. I'll settle for the "mind your own business canuck!" ...

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Old 09-03-2004, 07:34 PM   #155
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anyone in this industry who votes for bush should be shot. doesn't matter if you're a hardcore republican or not, bush is out for everyone's head in this industry
anyone that is from another country that thinks we should base our votes on what you may think should be shot
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Old 09-03-2004, 07:36 PM   #156
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lol.. my point exactly...

did you fell to realize that I was talking about internatinal laws, the role of UN, its importance in maintaining a minimum of world order.... and the importance for countries like the US to respect those laws if we want.. as the world community.. to be able to to enforce the laws upon violating countries ...

How can you ask countries to respect international laws and treaties if yourself claim that NO ONE can tell you what to do? What kind of credibility do you have when you ask certain countries to respect treaties when it comes to biological warfare for exemple.. how can you tell those countries that this is NOT the right way to protect themselves!??? How can you tell a country not to attack another one if they claim to only protect themselves!?

I dont expect a wise response from your part.. I'll settle for the "mind your own business canuck!" ...
works for me, mind your own business canuck!
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Old 09-03-2004, 07:41 PM   #157
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anyone that is from another country that thinks we should base our votes on what you may think should be shot
what does that matter? i have a lot of ties to the states and decisions made by your government affects my income.
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Old 09-03-2004, 07:43 PM   #158
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americans can try to tell us what to do, but when we pipe up you people complain

funny for an american to say not to stick your nose in others business...
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Old 09-03-2004, 07:56 PM   #159
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what does that matter? i have a lot of ties to the states and decisions made by your government affects my income.
be that as it may, I sure the fuck am not going to base my vote by the desires of someone from another country
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Old 09-03-2004, 07:57 PM   #160
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americans can try to tell us what to do, but when we pipe up you people complain

funny for an american to say not to stick your nose in others business...
I am sorry, you want to provide me a thread where Americans were telling Canadians what you should do? I must have been out of town that day.
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Old 09-03-2004, 07:58 PM   #161
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be that as it may, I sure the fuck am not going to base my vote by the desires of someone from another country
Nor would you base it on the desires of anyone but yourself. Thus the beauty of the American political system.
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Nor would you base it on the desires of anyone but yourself. Thus the beauty of the American political system.
you know me well . . . . . however, I have to say that I am a little pissed off at the Democratic Party this year.

First, they let me down by not fighting harder to keep Gray Davis in office, and then following it up by nominating Kerry, and forcing me to vote for the Communist candidate for president.
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Old 09-03-2004, 08:04 PM   #163
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Nor would you base it on the desires of anyone but yourself. Thus the beauty of the American political system.
By the way . . . . PimpsPromo.com now uses Epassporte to pay their clients . . . how do I get you to fly my button in your sig . . . and did you ever get an answer to my last question?
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Old 09-03-2004, 08:07 PM   #164
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lol.. my point exactly...

did you fell to realize that I was talking about internatinal laws, the role of UN, its importance in maintaining a minimum of world order.... and the importance for countries like the US to respect those laws if we want.. as the world community.. to be able to to enforce the laws upon violating countries ...

How can you ask countries to respect international laws and treaties if yourself claim that NO ONE can tell you what to do? What kind of credibility do you have when you ask certain countries to respect treaties when it comes to biological warfare for exemple.. how can you tell those countries that this is NOT the right way to protect themselves!??? How can you tell a country not to attack another one if they claim to only protect themselves!?

I dont expect a wise response from your part.. I'll settle for the "mind your own business canuck!" ...

xxxdesign-net - He's speaking with arrogance of the rest of the world, you can't argue with someone based on the world when they're not thinking of the world as a whole, it just can't be done. You are right with your thoughts, and he is right with his, because of how he's perceiving things.

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Old 09-03-2004, 08:19 PM   #165
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be that as it may, I sure the fuck am not going to base my vote by the desires of someone from another country
i can't understand why anyone in this industry would support bush. if someone is positioning to put you out of business why would you support them? especially when their track record is crap.
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Old 09-03-2004, 08:25 PM   #166
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i can't understand why anyone in this industry would support bush. if someone is positioning to put you out of business why would you support them? especially when their track record is crap.
hard as it may be for you to fathom, but there is a world beyond this industry. Kerry does not have the balls to deal with it.

FYI, I do not support Bush. You have heard the argument, "anyone but Bush?"

My feeling is "anyone but Kerry."

I will probably play Canadian on 11/2 and vote for the Communist Party candidate.
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hard as it may be for you to fathom, but there is a world beyond this industry. Kerry does not have the balls to deal with it.

FYI, I do not support Bush. You have heard the argument, "anyone but Bush?"

My feeling is "anyone but Kerry."

I will probably play Canadian on 11/2 and vote for the Communist Party candidate.
there's communists in canada? thats news to me.

kerry might not be a good candidate, but neither is bush. we know what bush is about and it isn't pretty. i do realize there's more than just this industry, note how i said his track record is crap?
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Old 09-03-2004, 10:40 PM   #168
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there's communists in canada? thats news to me.

kerry might not be a good candidate, but neither is bush. we know what bush is about and it isn't pretty. i do realize there's more than just this industry, note how i said his track record is crap?
Socialism, Communism
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hard as it may be for you to fathom, but there is a world beyond this industry. Kerry does not have the balls to deal with it.

FYI, I do not support Bush. You have heard the argument, "anyone but Bush?"

My feeling is "anyone but Kerry."

I will probably play Canadian on 11/2 and vote for the Communist Party candidate.
Lensman or Eric -- can we ban Baddog again? Do us all a favor.
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socialism? you wanna see socialism, look at some european countries...
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Lensman or Eric -- can we ban Baddog again? Do us all a favor.
if we banned anyone with an opinion all we'd have left is a bunch of sig whores
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Lensman or Eric -- can we ban Baddog again? Do us all a favor.
banning me is not going to help Kerry
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It would help everyone who reads this board.
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no shit . . . and if you were from Europe I would have mentioned Europe instead of Canada
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Lens, you sould put this on perment "Pinned" or for atleast a week or so.

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It would help everyone who reads this board.
hmmm, well seeing as how I can not go to a webmaster event without having a dozen different people (usually someone that would be considered a "player" for lack of a better term) come up to me and tell me how much they enjoy my posts, as well as the numerous comments I get on this board from people saying they appreciate my commentary, I am going to guess that you are in the minority.

I have to take this as a compliment though, as apparently you feel that my opinion will sway the swing vote away from Kerry, so I must be silenced.

So, for those that don't want to vote for Bush, and realize Kerry is not the answer, might I suggest Andrew Kensigton
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Lens, you sould put this on perment "Pinned" or for atleast a week or so.

advertisers get a set number of hours of pinned threads, so I guess that would not work
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Bush and fundamentalist minister Attorney General John Ashhahahahaha have determined that you are incapable of deciding what kind of images and movies you want to watch.

DEFEND YOUR RIGHTS ? REGISTER AND VOTE!
The federal government has declared war on the adult entertainment industry and on YOUR RIGHTS to enjoy it.

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As a TAXPAYING CONSUMER YOU DESERVE BETTER from your government employees! FIRE G.W. Bush in 2004!

FACT: New proposed legislation could cripple the US adult entertainment industry and your freedom to view its movies and photos.
FACT: This legislation allows the Attorny General to hide behind violent criminals, pedophiles, and rapists in order to harass legitimate responsible businessmen.

FACT: This legislation will do NOTHING to protect children from criminals.

FACT: This legislation will allow the federal government to spend YOUR tax money to send agents on lavish cross country "inspection" trips to law abiding porn studios, where the agents may mingle with porn stars, rather than help to find missing or exploited children that are in actual need of rescue.

FACT: This legislation makes easier access to sensitive information such as the home address and social security numbers of adult models and performers. This information WILL help to assist criminals who may wish to stalk, rape or murder adult performers. These models are people who deserve a basic right to privacy when they are not performing.
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oh man, I am glad I came back . . .I love these "facts."

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FACT: New proposed legislation could cripple the US adult entertainment industry and your freedom to view its movies and photos.
It could cripple the US adult entertainment industry? Could as in might? How can something be a fact if it might do something? Shouldn't it be it will have some effect in order to make it a fact? BTW, the law goes into effect before the election, so you probably should have voted in 2000 instead of whining now.

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FACT: This legislation allows the Attorny General to hide behind violent criminals, pedophiles, and rapists in order to harass legitimate responsible businessmen.
Sorry, you lost me there. The AG can hide behind criminals? What do you mean by that? I have read the law, have you? Where did you come up with this?

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FACT: This legislation will do NOTHING to protect children from criminals.
The intent is to help insure minors are not being used as content, doesn't that protect them? What else would you like it to do?

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FACT: This legislation will allow the federal government to spend YOUR tax money to send agents on lavish cross country "inspection" trips to law abiding porn studios, where the agents may mingle with porn stars, rather than help to find missing or exploited children that are in actual need of rescue.

hahaha . . .yeah, that is why they came up with the revisions, so they could all fly out to the San Fernando Valley and party like rock stars.
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it protects children now? how? i highly doubt anyone in child porn checks id and puts together any type of legal docs.
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It could cripple the US adult entertainment industry? Could as in might? How can something be a fact if it might do something? Shouldn't it be it will have some effect in order to make it a fact?
That the above is a possibility is a fact. The possibility that it could go into effect, be enforced, and have no negative effect is not a fact. Understand?

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My my, what a short memory you have; if you recall it really didn't matter who one voted for in the 2000 election; the candidate that won the popular vote didn't get in office. And you're not going to tell me you think that porn will be targeted as harshly during a Kerry administration as it would under a Bush administration, are you?

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Sorry, you lost me there. The AG can hide behind criminals? What do you mean by that? I have read the law, have you? Where did you come up with this?
What I meant by that is these laws do not target cp criminals; pedos don't have established business venues (at least in this country) where they can be inspected for record keeping compliance. Only mainstream producers would have such records or could be tracked down with any ease. Only mainstream producers would have a website with high visibility; I'm guessing the cp crowd is setting things up on geocities, file sharing networks and the like. To be honest, I really don't know; but I I've never come across anything on a root .com extension that looks like genuine cp.

So yes, these laws allow the AG to harass legitimate producers under the guise of "hunting down criminals" in order to further his own religious/moral agenda. If his intentions are being hidden by using rapists and pedophiles as an excuse, doesn't that essentially mean he's working in collusion with them to an extent? He's allowing them to create a diversion from his true intentions of banishing porn completely.

It's like stealing the film projector in a crowded theatre after someone has yelled 'fire'; wouldn't the thief be essentially working in conjunction with the person that caused the panic?

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The intent is to help insure minors are not being used as content, doesn't that protect them? What else would you like it to do?
See above. This law has nothing to do with protecting minors, that is merely a BS 'mission statement' that doesn't put on paper their already STATED intention of getting rid of porn. Giving the government the ability to send producers to prison for 5 years over clerical errors such as mispelling a name does nothing to protect children. Creating such a paperwork fiasco so as to drive legitimate producers out of business does nothing to protect children. Wake the fuck up, when idiots start spouting nonsense about "they're doing it to save the children", whatever "it" is, chances are they are seldom doing it for the reasons they are stating.

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hahaha . . .yeah, that is why they came up with the revisions, so they could all fly out to the San Fernando Valley and party like rock stars. [/B]
I've never thought that was the reason these revisions were drafted, nor did I say that I believed it was the reason. It is however a reality that will unfold if the legislation goes into effect. Do you really think there's going to be a short line for goverment workers signing up to go 'work' on 'inspections' at porn studios? And whose money do you think is going to pay for this? Taxpayers from some other country???
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That the above is a possibility is a fact. The possibility that it could go into effect, be enforced, and have no negative effect is not a fact. Understand?



My my, what a short memory you have; if you recall it really didn't matter who one voted for in the 2000 election; the candidate that won the popular vote didn't get in office. And you're not going to tell me you think that porn will be targeted as harshly during a Kerry administration as it would under a Bush administration, are you?


What I meant by that is these laws do not target cp criminals; pedos don't have established business venues (at least in this country) where they can be inspected for record keeping compliance. Only mainstream producers would have such records or could be tracked down with any ease. Only mainstream producers would have a website with high visibility; I'm guessing the cp crowd is setting things up on geocities, file sharing networks and the like. To be honest, I really don't know; but I I've never come across anything on a root .com extension that looks like genuine cp.

So yes, these laws allow the AG to harass legitimate producers under the guise of "hunting down criminals" in order to further his own religious/moral agenda. If his intentions are being hidden by using rapists and pedophiles as an excuse, doesn't that essentially mean he's working in collusion with them to an extent? He's allowing them to create a diversion from his true intentions of banishing porn completely.

It's like stealing the film projector in a crowded theatre after someone has yelled 'fire'; wouldn't the thief be essentially working in conjunction with the person that caused the panic?


See above. This law has nothing to do with protecting minors, that is merely a BS 'mission statement' that doesn't put on paper their already STATED intention of getting rid of porn. Giving the government the ability to send producers to prison for 5 years over clerical errors such as mispelling a name does nothing to protect children. Creating such a paperwork fiasco so as to drive legitimate producers out of business does nothing to protect children. Wake the fuck up, when idiots start spouting nonsense about "they're doing it to save the children", whatever "it" is, chances are they are seldom doing it for the reasons they are stating.


I've never thought that was the reason these revisions were drafted, nor did I say that I believed it was the reason. It is however a reality that will unfold if the legislation goes into effect. Do you really think there's going to be a short line for goverment workers signing up to go 'work' on 'inspections' at porn studios? And whose money do you think is going to pay for this? Taxpayers from some other country???

very good points
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Old 09-05-2004, 03:51 PM   #185
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hmmm, well seeing as how I can not go to a webmaster event without having a dozen different people (usually someone that would be considered a "player" for lack of a better term) come up to me and tell me how much they enjoy my posts, as well as the numerous comments I get on this board from people saying they appreciate my commentary,
When I go to a webmaster event the big players thank me for the business that I have broght them and try to see what they can do to get more, the medium players do everything they can to get my business, and the postwhores, like yourself, are completely off my radar.

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When I go to a webmaster event the big players thank me for the business that I have broght them and try to see what they can do to get more, the medium players do everything they can to get my business, and the postwhores, like yourself, are completely off my radar.

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Oh shit! :-)

Well said!
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Oh shit! :-)

Well said!
I thought there would be some people who liked that.
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Webmasters NEED TO BE more proactive. In the last four years we saw a war with Iraq (a stated enemy of the Bush administration) - give Bush and his cronies another 4 years and you will see the War on Porn (a stated enemy of the Bush administration).

Get out and VOTE and if you plan on voting for Bush STAY HOME!
Arent alot of the people bush targets people with money, ie the big people in porn? I mean people who make over 100k a year, alot of people on this board probably do that, or at least claim to. Those people are the people that Bush caters to, why would anyone who makes that kind of $ vote for Kerry? Of course i'm voting for kerry, but I dont make shit off of porn. and i could unplug my server tommorow and toss it into a ravene and urinate on it, and not care.

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Arent alot of the people bush targets people with money, ie the big people in porn? I mean people who make over 100k a year, alot of people on this board probably do that, or at least claim to. Those people are the people that Bush caters to, why would anyone who makes that kind of $ vote for Kerry? Of course i'm voting for kerry, but I dont make shit off of porn. and i could unplug my server tommorow and toss it into a ravene and urinate on it, and not care.

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Most pointless post ever. I don't get what you are trying to say.
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