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Old 09-03-2004, 12:11 PM   #1
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Here is your best chance to stay out of jail because of 2257.

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Nothing against FSC or any organization that steps in to help, but your best chance is consulting your lawyers and doing what they tell you.
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Old 09-03-2004, 12:17 PM   #7
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Nothing against FSC or any organization that steps in to help, but your best chance is consulting your lawyers and doing what they tell you.

Actually...Your best chance is consulting an attorney who knows WTF they are talking about. It amazes me how many of the people in this industry use attorneys that are not members of the First Amendment Lawyers Association.

I can think of a couple of attorneys who have given their clients advice that appears to be in direct conflict with 2257. I however am not into naming names.

Sorry Eric M. Bernstein but you will not be getting mentioned in this thread.

Oops. Damn it.

I hate it when that happens.
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Old 09-03-2004, 12:23 PM   #9
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It wonder what would happend if all major TGP's urged their surfers to register and vote to protect the free porn..
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Nothing against FSC or any organization that steps in to help, but your best chance is consulting your lawyers and doing what they tell you.
Jeffery Douglas (my lawyer) heads up the FSC

Webmasters NEED TO BE more proactive. In the last four years we saw a war with Iraq (a stated enemy of the Bush administration) - give Bush and his cronies another 4 years and you will see the War on Porn (a stated enemy of the Bush administration).

Get out and VOTE and if you plan on voting for Bush STAY HOME!
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Old 09-03-2004, 12:25 PM   #13
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Actually...Your best chance is consulting an attorney who knows WTF they are talking about. It amazes me how many of the people in this industry use attorneys that are not members of the First Amendment Lawyers Association.

I can think of a couple of attorneys who have given their clients advice that appears to be in direct conflict with 2257. I however am not into naming names.

Sorry Eric M. Bernstein but you will not be getting mentioned in this thread.

Oops. Damn it.

I hate it when that happens.
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It wonder what would happend if all major TGP's urged their surfers to register and vote to protect the free porn..
Power to the Hun!

Lol - that would be awsome.
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Jeffery Douglas (my lawyer) heads up the FSC

Webmasters NEED TO BE more proactive. In the last four years we saw a war with Iraq (a stated enemy of the Bush administration) - give Bush and his cronies another 4 years and you will see the War on Porn (a stated enemy of the Bush administration).

Get out and VOTE and if you plan on voting for Bush STAY HOME!
I like Douglas, we use him too

Getting out and voting shouldn't really be in reaction to this, as an American, voting is something you should do no matter what!!!
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Nothing against FSC or any organization that steps in to help, but your best chance is consulting your lawyers and doing what they tell you.
Exactly. This is a weak response. How about file a lawsuit against the gov't to stop implementation?

Those who think voting for Kerry will give online pornographers a pass are IGNORANT.

There is no pro-porn politician ( maybe Clinton! ) All politicians will sacrifice this industry if it would mean extra votes.
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Actually...Your best chance is consulting an attorney who knows WTF they are talking about.
I'll second that and also add - ignore any fucking lawyers who would sell their mother for some "respect" in the US legal system.

I don't know how often I'll come across "professionals" who are so shit scared of "authorities" - not for their clients, but for their own asses and would not utter "Boo!" to them :-)

Lawyers are "humans" as well and we got the usual "variation" in them - choose one with at least some balls and balance.
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something has to be done. i guess thats a start
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It wonder what would happend if all major TGP's urged their surfers to register and vote to protect the free porn..
thehun, worldsex, just to name a few major ones would make a significant impact on their American surfers.
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Exactly. This is a weak response. How about file a lawsuit against the gov't to stop implementation?

Those who think voting for Kerry will give online pornographers a pass are IGNORANT.

There is no pro-porn politician ( maybe Clinton! ) All politicians will sacrifice this industry if it would mean extra votes.
1. I'm sure the FSC is filing a lawsuit.

2. I'm not saying Kerry will "give a pass", but sure as hell won't have Ashhahahahaha as an AG. That's what is most important here.

3. Clinton signed COPA.
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thehun, worldsex, just to name a few major ones would make a significant impact on their American surfers.
yes i would think so also. i would love to see some of the higher traffic sites trying to encourage their surfers to vote against bush
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Nice! I have actually been looking for this kind of site. I am considering for once in a lifetime putting up a banner on my site asking people to vote for Kerry...

Could this be something anyone else might be interested in doing? Maybe some designers will make a few banners with some good slogans for a good cause?
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Only problem I see with this is it doesn't list the candidates that would be useful to vote for.

Telling people to vote leaves Bush as an option for them to vote for. More votes for Bush doesn't do doodley squat for the cause.
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Old 09-03-2004, 12:56 PM   #34
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Exactly. This is a weak response. How about file a lawsuit against the gov't to stop implementation?

Those who think voting for Kerry will give online pornographers a pass are IGNORANT.

There is no pro-porn politician ( maybe Clinton! ) All politicians will sacrifice this industry if it would mean extra votes.
Exactly,

The whole thing around this is that Kerry might appoint people who might be less concerned about online porn..
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The whole thing around this is that Kerry might appoint people who might be less concerned about online porn..
Could it get any worse?
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Exactly. This is a weak response. How about file a lawsuit against the gov't to stop implementation?

Those who think voting for Kerry will give online pornographers a pass are IGNORANT.

There is no pro-porn politician ( maybe Clinton! ) All politicians will sacrifice this industry if it would mean extra votes.
Mike,

Does this do anything for ya?

"Government does not have the authority to tax or regulate the Internet. It shouldn't be in the business of acting as a nanny to censor content. It is best left to private industry."

Source: http://www.vote-smart.org/npat.php?can_id=MTX77838

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presidents are elected by the electoral college no?

what the fuck is voting going to do besides giving the elite
statistics on how to further their massive population control.

its like filling out a fucking survey for a giant corporation so they
can make more money off you.

voting is bullshit.
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Exactly. This is a weak response. How about file a lawsuit against the gov't to stop implementation?

People might be confused here.

The law might be a little different with special rules with regards to injunctions but normally - a law goes into effort - it is enforced against someone - then you have a basis to go to court to get an injunction - otherwise there is no immediate hardship.
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Those who think voting for Kerry will give online pornographers a pass are IGNORANT.

There is no pro-porn politician ( maybe Clinton! ) All politicians will sacrifice this industry if it would mean extra votes.
We don't need a pro-porn President or a pro-porn Attorney General; we just need people who respect the 1st Ammendment. We just need rational leaders who do not govern based on religious doctrines. Ditto for the Supreme Court Justices they appoint. All the adult industry needs is to be NOT persecuted. A politican simply NOT being aggressively ANTI-porn is good enough.

Janet Reno did not neglect to prosecute "obscenity" because she loved porn, she didn't prosecute because she knew those resources could be better spent fighting real crimes with real victims. John Kerry wouldn't win a single vote crusading against porn, because mainstream americans aren't bothered by porn, and the radical conservatives still care more about making abortion illegal and forcing prayer in school, so they're not going to support a pro-choice secularist.
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presidents are elected by the electoral college no?

what the fuck is voting going to do besides giving the elite
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its like filling out a fucking survey for a giant corporation so they
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voting is bullshit.
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Jeffery Douglas (my lawyer) heads up the FSC

Webmasters NEED TO BE more proactive. In the last four years we saw a war with Iraq (a stated enemy of the Bush administration) - give Bush and his cronies another 4 years and you will see the War on Porn (a stated enemy of the Bush administration).

Get out and VOTE and if you plan on voting for Bush STAY HOME!
I'll drink to that! I have never voted before but I'm going to go register so I can cast my vote. DEFOLIATE BUSH!
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presidents are elected by the electoral college no?

what the fuck is voting going to do besides giving the elite
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its like filling out a fucking survey for a giant corporation so they
can make more money off you.

voting is bullshit.
You obviously don't know how the voting system works, do you?
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Could it get any worse?
It's not going to get any better..

There is no evidence that supports any party benifiting this industry.

What I see is pure speculation that in my opinion is not a realistic approach.

Clinton didn't help
Bush isn't helping
Kerry will not help

Don't get me wrong.. I wish it was as easy as voting for somebody.. but that simply isn't the case
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Exactly. This is a weak response. How about file a lawsuit against the gov't to stop implementation?

Those who think voting for Kerry will give online pornographers a pass are IGNORANT.

There is no pro-porn politician ( maybe Clinton! ) All politicians will sacrifice this industry if it would mean extra votes.

only one party has a powerful conservative base putting EXTREME pressure on them..... Republicans also put conservative judges in the supreme court...

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Old 09-03-2004, 01:42 PM   #50
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Could it get any worse?
Yes. Think Chief Justice Clarence Thomas.
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