joshuawk

I don't even want this dude's garbage little domain. It
was in a bulk pool of domains with overture results.

Need to get a trademark filter.

Get out of my face with your garbage
domain you forgot to fucking renew.

I did you a favor, you're lucky some Chinese dude didn't get it.
I always give trademarked, expired domains back.

Anyone wanna buy this domain from me?
lol just kidding
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Dear Josh,

During a transfer of domains from one registrar to another, www.pool.com or yourself, managed to register www.kylaryder.com as your own during the brief period of time that it was available. This domain has been used as advertising for Kyla Ryder Productions Inc., and has received a many as 30,000 visitors in one day. All of our business cards, promotional material, and website links go directly to this domain and display this domain.

Kyla Ryder, in case you are unaware, is a well known exotic dancer and adult film star, who performs all over North America. She has a large fan club and a following. As it is a performance name and not her true name and is a distinct name that we have not seen reoccur anywhere, Kyla Ryder is a legal trademark of Kyla Ryder Productions Inc, a registered Canadian federal corporation. You are in fact, violating our trademark, which will not be tolerated in any way. This is no different than you registering www.clinteastwood.com or www.mikerowsoft.com .

My network technician has now educated me on the practice of "cybersquatting", which is precisely our current situation. He has also informed me that it is in fact illegal and that it can be easily reversed.

I am going to present a few options to you, so please consider them carefully. The first, and best option for you, is that you hand over the domain back to us, and we will pay you a modest amount of money. And by modest I mean the amount it cost you to buy the domain. If you wish to return with an extortion figure, the answer is already an emphatic no.

This requires an immediate response on your part. I have already contacted our company attorney, Andrew Atkins of Andrew Atkins and Co., who will be sending you an official letter notifying you of your trademark violation. This will effectively prevent you from denying that you don't know anything about this trademark violation. "The address you have is not correct" will not be an acceptable excuse to a judge, as it is your responsibility to change it during the registration process.

The next step we will take tomorrow is filing an offical complaint with www.icann.org. They will likely reverse the domain and you will lose whatever you paid to register it, although this will take time and company losses will be sufered. Please note that both McDonald's and Hotmail had similiar situations where people thought they could snatch their respective domains. You will not even be contacted, but will simply lose your registration and whatever you paid.

If you wish to take it to this step, then you will be served with a claim for damages from our company. I just purchased 4000 posters displaying the domain name www.kylaryder.com, as well as 10,000 business cards and flyers. If we are forced to change this name, even temporarily, we will be seeking damages in the $1000's of dollars. If we can prove lost revenue and claim legal expenses against you, expect the claim to be in the $10,000's range. My attorney is $300/hr, plus travel expenses to your area, which you will likely be paying.

Do not assume that because you live in the US that you are exempt from any applicable laws. Any country that subscribes to the Stockholm convention shares the same copyright and trademark legislation. Please see the attached documents, proving our business registration as well as the use of KYLA RYDER as a performance name. Also please consider that Kyla's DVD sales, tips, and private dance revenue is often twice as much as her paycheck. We also sell a considerable amount of DVD's online which we are currently losing revenue from. We will be calculating her current sales without the website present and comparing it to last years sales. You can expect the difference to be added to our claim against you. If she was averaging $4000 a week before and is now averaging $3000 a week, expect a $1000 to be added to this claim for every week this takes to get our domain back, starting today. These are not exaggerated figures.

I require a response within 24 hours or I will begin the process of legal action,

Sincerely,

John Biley
Kyla Ryder Productions Inc.
148 19567 Fraser Hwy
Surrey, BC, V3S 6K7

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dirtyone

I don't see the magic word in there at all.

Tell him to piss off until he says it.

joshuawk

hehe naw im cool ill transfer it over to him just protecting
his business interests

but his email pissed me off for a second there

people get so damn touchy about their precious
trademarks!

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joshuawk

hehe naw im cool ill transfer it over to him just protecting
his business interests

but his email pissed me off for a second there

people get so damn touchy about their precious
trademarks!

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vivalaspam

Ill take that domain off of your hands.

Honestly.....

evildick

I'm guessing he had to be an ass like that just in case you did register it maliciously, so he could scare you into giving it back.

Good idea dirtyone had....I would email him back and tell him you'll transfer the domain to him for free if he says "please".

init

who the hell is that, never heard of her, google doesnt seem to shed much light on her either

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MikeVega

i agree tell him to say please and he can have it....if not fuck him let him sue.....

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anyone actually ever hear of this person?

google is scarce.

Alltopnotch

never heard of her...

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Easton

why do so many whores use the last name Ryder? it's so cheesey

Jenny Ryder, Riley Ryder and now this one...

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The Truth Hurts

well, given my matlock-like detective skills, I've concluded that he's not lying.


Corporation #4111184 BN #855827689RC0001
Corporation Name(s): KYLA RYDER PRODUCTIONS INC.


Old Name(s) and Change Date(s)

Registered Office Address: [Latest address on file]
Care of:
Street: 200 - 200 GRANVILLE ST.
Location: VANCOUVER
Province: British Columbia
Postal Code: V6C1S4
Country: Canada


Country: Canada
Reg. Off. Eff: 2002/11/14


Status Date
Active 2002/11/14




ACT Name: Canada Business Corporations Act Proxy:
Incorporation:2002/11/14 Prospectus:
Amalgamation: Take Over:
Continuance: Revival:
Anniversary: Intent to Dissolve:
Import: - Revocation of Intent:
Export: - Update:2004/09/08

gwilkins

She's a local stripper from BC that did a movie with a few other dancers. I think they registered the stage names of all the other girls in the movie for themselves

aflex

I love how they act like it's your fault they forgot to re-register their beloved domain.

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SmokeyTheBear

because the guy was an asshole , i would find a kayla ryder in the phone bok, tell her your from a non-profit organization that finds people names in domains and gives them away. Transfer it to her and tell buddy he should have said the magic word..

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The Truth Hurts

but of course, that's not her real name...

I left it out of the shit I posted above on purpose : )

Danny Dukes

Tell him to eat a DICK!

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WarChild

Yeah she made a DVD "Dancer's Day Off".

One of the girls, Missy Mayhem, is a cutie hooker turned actress. Don't know anything about the others.

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NoHassleSteve

Yeah. They act like you "stole" the domain.

What the hell is he doing making posters and shit if they don't even own the domain name?? Who is the idiot here?

I wish ICANN would see failure to renew a domain name
as forfeiting the rights to it.

But alas, too many big companies fuck up and don't want to suffer for their mistakes.

Easton

the domain in question isn't even hosted... how can it be making any money?

those guys are total douche-bags

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pood

sell it to someone else that would want the name for more moeny and let them deal wit it

I was in a exact situation few years ago, I had a gaming site, which i registered before a company even bothered to get the .com.

So one day, i get a email saying to hand over the domain name, but i told the guy fuck off or give me $$$ for it.

Then he gets all pissy and starts saying he'll sue me and shit.

so my host, who I kinda knew through chat, said he'd buy the domain off of me for $500 cuz at that tiem I was a scared 15 year old who didn't want a law suit, plus $500 sure was a lot. He then tells the guy that if he wants to fuck with someone, he can fuck wit him and his lawyers.

and then he gets an apology letter and then never talked to us again ;)

The Truth Hurts

I used to own WXYZ.com and got a C&D from Scripps Howard.

apparently WXYZ is a registered trademark for a tv stations call letters they own somewhere.

I nearly shit myself reading it, but just got pissed.

I placed the old ZMaster pic of the chick flipping the bird on the site... and the lawyer cunt called me and yelled at me.

"we are not amused".

showed the shit to a few people...
some said fight it some said turn it over..
i turned it over.

I never did get the $75 she promised me.

pornguy

I know of a pharmaceutical company in Florida that has been fighting with a guy in Canada to get their registered trade marked name in .com for about 5 years.

If you bought that name with the intention of using it, then I dont think that it is cybersquating. I think that is only when you grab a name with the intention of sitting on it for the biggest offer,or do nothing with it.

I would talk to a lawyer before I gave it to them.

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Webmaster_Logic

well thats nice of you man but if they were so worried about the domain the would of kept up with it. That email would of pissed me off too......

xclusive

I would make him pay me for the time and money used to register the domain along with development time that will be lost. Just bs him a little and he will pay for not saying please...

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uchase/webpry

I have a chinese business adress, want to transfer the domain there? I think you should teach this noob a lesson.

Mr Pheer

fuck kyla ryder in her cavernous ass

foolio

You should ask him why he let it expire.

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Steen2

Don't take anyone seriously with an address in Surrey

JK, lol.




For half the replies in here, don't be dishing out legal advice when it's obvious you know jack shit about domain disputes.

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Dagwolf

Good reading.

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Taboo

if he does take it to WIPO, good chance you'll lose and have a blemish on your clean record, if that matters to you. LOL. explain to him that he let it expire and tell him if he had only said PLEASE, you would have transferred it right away. it's very nice that you're willing to give him the name back, says a lot about your character.

Living For Today

What a fucking douche bag. At least make them sweat a little and definitely dont just give in straight away.

McSpike

that exactly! I would send them a "nice" reply back and then hand them over a domain. or even further. I would tell them this process could be smooth and easy for them if they asked polite without attacking me. now I won't hand them over the domain as I have nothing to lose. I know I will lose it but it will be them who will take care of their shit not me. that's the price for being rude and not registering their poor little stupid domain name.

to call this case a cyberaquatting so pisses me off. Many people called me a cybersquatter and I am not a legal expert but I bounced all their little ignorant threats. cybersqatting, oh boy...

Dirty F

Oh please dont just give that name back. If they wouldve sent you a mail asking politely if they could have the name back and pay you 200 bucks for it whatever id say give it back without taking the money. Now i say fuck them. Even if you give it back right away send them an email please telling them what a morons they are for letting the name expire.

littlewookie

that guys is a fucking tool, yea fucking right it was transfering over to another register. This guy just fucking forgot to renew it and he is shitting bricks now that some one else got it.

Damn fuckin morons..

I am suprised his signature didn't say "Have you seen my baseball"

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Dirty F

Please tell him he only had to say please and you wouldve transfered it. Make this idiot realize he's an idiot.

ChrisExtreme

Fuck him keep that shit.
And if your gonna give to him don't do it right away, let him walk around with his panties in a bunch for awhile.

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Terenzo

she used to be a cam girl at ifriends on this page you find a link to her profile but the profile does not seem to work as it gives a 404

http://www.missymayhem.com/missyimpossible.html

you have to click "kyla live" btw is it a misspelling in the subject or is it really about kaylaryder.com as the guy worries about kylaryder.com


good luck

NaughtyAlysha

I don't see Kyla Ryder as a trademark in the Canadian Intellectual Property Office web site.
http://strategis.gc.ca/sc_mrksv/cipo...xsearch-e.html

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I bet he sends that letter to everyone and just replaces the names.

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zvik

you better start talking business and get some $$$ from them for that domain, it's yours man i don't think they can do anything about it, it's their fucking problem.

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afrocreep

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.kaylaryder.com

0 pages found for http://www.kaylaryder.com


Sorry, no matches.

Fred Quimby

I've been through this a dozen times.

He can pay you the ICANN fees and get it in 8 hours,

or he can pay ICANN the fees and wait 8 months.

He also called you a "cybersquater" which is defamation of character and your business is suffering a loss of $4,000 per day in good will.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by afrocreep
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.kaylaryder.com

0 pages found for http://www.kaylaryder.com


Sorry, no matches. [/QUOTE

but plenty for:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.kylaryder.com

Nicky

Just mail him back and tell him you want to do anal gangbang with Ryder and a few of her friends as pay.....

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TheLegacy

I'd be suing the fucking webmaster and technical guys who should have been watching the name. Hell even I get an email letting me know if a domain is coming up for renewal.

Big deal if they bought all the stuff, hell buy a Hummer and put her name on it, much less a house for business - sue him for millions if you want, its not going to make a bit of difference since the responsibility is on them to renew.

They should be suing those that they bought the URL from at the beginning that they werent informed that it was up for renewal... classic case of jumping off a bulding, surviving, then suing the owners of the building for not making it bigger.

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jade_dragon

It's all about who has the money in this situation. Many large corporations do not own the urls for their trademarked names. Great example of how it works is www.nissan.com Uzi Nissan is a pretty great guy, Nissan the car company got pissed off that he would not get off "their" name. He had this domain registered when Nissan heads in Japan outcasted their engineer here to America and told him he could only call his cars Daihatsu, Nissan did not even exist here yet by their choice! But what they did is file for "damages" about 2 years ago saying his url has done millions of dollars in damage and sued every business he owned as well as businesses he was a partner in even if Nissan did not appear anywhere in public documentation. It all started with a pretty rude letter. Likewise most car companies do not have their registered trademark names in direct urls. So it does not matter who had what first, it is who wants to pay for it. I would make him talk to me like an equal.


Ahhhh the power of the corporation and money at its finest

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