WHo's dabbling in mainstream ? - GoFuckYourself.com

Jman · 11-05-2004, 01:15 PM

Been doing adult for a long time now and also gaming wich both do well for me.

I have been working on some mainstream stuff for a lill while now and looks like it's going to take off very well.

Anyone else investing money and time in mainstream ? What are your thaughts about the amount of money to make in mainstream biz development ?

Do you think that applying what we have learned and developped in adult can be transfered into mainstream world and be beneficial for mainstream companies ?

BuckLover · 11-05-2004, 01:17 PM

What kind of mainstream? details please!

Jman · 11-05-2004, 01:22 PM

Email and also new sales and marketing applications ... now i have to shhhhhhh it

brand0n · 11-05-2004, 01:23 PM

im doing a hella lot more then dabbling

i love main stream. 0% shave.

BradM · 11-05-2004, 01:24 PM

I tried to put my foot in mainstream again a little bit but lost interest fast.

slapass · 11-05-2004, 01:25 PM

Mainstream rocks. Just be aware of x-mas as summer sucks ass and we make 35% of our dough in 2 months.

beergood · 11-05-2004, 01:25 PM

I went from doing 100% adult to about 80% mainstream and 20% adult.

What I use primarily in both is search engine optimization skills and the ability to sniff out a scam. Experience in ad placement, CTR, us of linking and effective design are also the same.

Most of my business now days is PPC advertising

Getting used to peak performance times was a little strange but made since once I got used to it.

xclusive · 11-05-2004, 01:29 PM

I have a lot of mainstream stuff going on you have to diversify...

WiredGuy · 11-05-2004, 01:31 PM

Slowly trying to make a comeback, starting off slow to feel out the market.

WG

beergood · 11-05-2004, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brand0n
im doing a hella lot more then dabbling

i love main stream. 0% shave.

0%....I doubt it. Just less shady.

Jman · 11-05-2004, 01:32 PM

Looks like a bunch of you are doing great.

Very encouraging to see success stories in mainstream, keep em coming ;-)

Now who's attending the New York show on monday. I can't on this one but will defenitly try to make the next big mainstream show, where ever it is.

dirtysouth · 11-05-2004, 01:32 PM

Getting more and more into it. Doing the travel thing. We've got a new cruise that leaves out of here and I've been pushing bookings through travelocity using guerilla local advertising techniques.

Eve · 11-05-2004, 01:33 PM

Mainstream rocks. No headaches like in adult. And the marketing does transliterate over very well.

WiredGuy · 11-05-2004, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JMan
Looks like a bunch of you are doing great.

Very encouraging to see success stories in mainstream, keep em coming ;-)

Now who's attending the New York show on monday. I can't on this one but will defenitly try to make the next big mainstream show, where ever it is.

If you know anyone who hasn't bought a pass to Ad-Tech yet, let me know, I have a 20% discount code off the conferences.

WG

Jman · 11-05-2004, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
If you know anyone who hasn't bought a pass to Ad-Tech yet, let me know, I have a 20% discount code off the conferences.

WG

WG Hit up Whitney i beleive she was going

kush · 11-05-2004, 01:38 PM

There's no money in mainstream, just like there's no money in adult.

The entire internet is worthless!

Basic_man · 11-05-2004, 01:38 PM

I prefer porn biz... I don't need to give support to clients :D

Gottis · 11-05-2004, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brand0n
im doing a hella lot more then dabbling

i love main stream. 0% shave.

Don't be kidding, they shave as well.

dirtysouth: Guerilla techniques are hot.

ZeroFate · 11-05-2004, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brand0n
im doing a hella lot more then dabbling

i love main stream. 0% shave.

Agreed! Gotta love those $80 commissions...

Strife · 11-05-2004, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basic_man
I prefer porn biz... I don't need to give support to clients :D

Yeah support can take up a lot of time.

BoNgHiTtA · 11-05-2004, 01:43 PM

I do mainstream stuff. Ill be at AdTech in San Fran, with a booth.

Oh and mainstream networks shave too.

ZeroFate · 11-05-2004, 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by Strife
Yeah support can take up a lot of time.

Really? It's a matter of spending about an hour in the morning and an hour in the evening providing support. Well, for me anyways. My mainstream project has taken off like no other, while I was putting in hours a day in adult with average but not great results.

It's definitely different for everyone. You can get a great idea in adult and run with it, or you can get a great idea in mainstream and run with it. This is why I love working online!

WiredGuy · 11-05-2004, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JMan
WG Hit up Whitney i beleive she was going

Already talked to her and Rocki.
WG

MikeVega · 11-05-2004, 02:30 PM

Our company runs both a mainstream and adult marketing firm and there are some differences. on the adult side people do biz with people and a good business man can go with any company and his clients will follow him. there is a lot more sharing of idea's and profits. I find that in the mainstream side people work with a company ...the sales guy can change 3 times and the client still stays because he trusts the company name. It's strange but that's just been how it's been on my end.

EvilMichelle · 11-05-2004, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JMan
Been doing adult for a long time now and also gaming wich both do well for me.

I have been working on some mainstream stuff for a lill while now and looks like it's going to take off very well.

Anyone else investing money and time in mainstream ? What are your thaughts about the amount of money to make in mainstream biz development ?

Do you think that applying what we have learned and developped in adult can be transfered into mainstream world and be beneficial for mainstream companies ?

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ytcracker · 11-05-2004, 03:16 PM

what is mainstream

Theo · 11-05-2004, 03:30 PM

i do and i do pretty good, but many things to learn. Marketing needs different approach and research is more important and more time consuming. Traffic can be very easy or very hard depending on what you market and that's your audience.

V_RocKs · 11-05-2004, 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by ytcracker
what is mainstream

It is that place my grandpa was telling us about. Somewhere past the mountains, there is a big water fall and if you go behind the falls there is a cave. Inside that cave is mainstream.

Veterans Day · 11-05-2004, 03:41 PM

Im play with it, read some boards. It just seems mainstream is so far behind the times in terms of marketing and affiliates compared to adult

Jman · 11-05-2004, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by V_RocKs
It is that place my grandpa was telling us about. Somewhere past the mountains, there is a big water fall and if you go behind the falls there is a cave. Inside that cave is mainstream.

LMAO sounds like an awesome place, now i wanna go

Theo · 11-05-2004, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Veterans Day
Im play with it, read some boards. It just seems mainstream is so far behind the times in terms of marketing and affiliates compared to adult

far behind? its far ahead

nastyking · 11-05-2004, 03:46 PM

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Originally posted by BoNgHiTtA
I do mainstream stuff. Ill be at AdTech in San Fran, with a booth.

Oh and mainstream networks shave too.

what's your uin? can you contact me please? 129393

Irrum · 11-05-2004, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JMan
Looks like a bunch of you are doing great.

Very encouraging to see success stories in mainstream, keep em coming ;-)

Now who's attending the New York show on monday. I can't on this one but will defenitly try to make the next big mainstream show, where ever it is.

I'll be there!

EvilMichelle · 11-05-2004, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Slowly trying to make a comeback, starting off slow to feel out the market.

WG

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The Other Steve · 11-05-2004, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
far behind? its far ahead

Have to agree with you there - mainstream is ahead in a lot of ways but we have a friend who hangs out here and has a jewellry site.

He does pretty well just marketing the site himself but he also has 20 affiliates. The only affiliates who have made sales are the three that also sell porn.

I think that says something.

Warden · 11-05-2004, 04:24 PM

We're heavy in the mainstream game.

mardigras · 11-05-2004, 04:40 PM

I have several mainstream projects. I've learned more from adult webmaster boards that applies to any net marketing/design than I've ever picked up from non-adult webmaster boards.

Realwild-Terry · 11-05-2004, 04:58 PM

Been doing mainstream for around 3 years and it has its ups and downs. A few features on In Demand Pay Per View Events station and now Viewers Choice Pay Per View as non Adult and under events has helped getting our "Real Wild Girls" brand out .
But the mainstream stores are a pain in the arse . We are in most of them with our videos but getting paid is like net 60 and its mainly on consignment, so if dont sell they send em back . But I will always try and keep going mainstream because there is a ton of money in it .

Kevin2 · 11-05-2004, 06:17 PM

Started our main stream sites about 5 months ago and sales are great so far which is encouraging. The great thing about our products is we can make a few sales and the profit from them equals and sometimes exceeds our monthly adult sales.

Rich J. · 11-05-2004, 06:47 PM

I am 100% mainstream now and there's definately a ton of advantages... some disadvantages as well. I would say the main element I miss from my experience in adult is the cooperation amongst competitors as well as a common understanding of how things work. The largest benefit of mainstream is the willingness of affiliates to try out new programs and work with the affiliate manager to achieve a higher level of success. It's 10X easier for me to convince affiliates to generate more leads for my company in mainstream than it ever was to get them to send joins in adult. The reluctance of affiliates to agree to CPA payout terms is definately another drawback in mainstream.

By the way, if anyone has any mortgage/refi/finance traffic, I'm paying top dollar for volume leads. See sig.

WiredGuy · 11-05-2004, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich J.
I am 100% mainstream now and there's definately a ton of advantages... some disadvantages as well. I would say the main element I miss from my experience in adult is the cooperation amongst competitors as well as a common understanding of how things work. The largest benefit of mainstream is the willingness of affiliates to try out new programs and work with the affiliate manager to achieve a higher level of success. It's 10X easier for me to convince affiliates to generate more leads for my company in mainstream than it ever was to get them to send joins in adult. The reluctance of affiliates to agree to CPA payout terms is definately another drawback in mainstream.

By the way, if anyone has any mortgage/refi/finance traffic, I'm paying top dollar for volume leads. See sig.

I was wondering what you've been up to lately

WG

dirtysouth · 11-05-2004, 09:05 PM

Bump 4 the night crew.

Xenophage · 11-05-2004, 09:06 PM

always

KRL · 11-05-2004, 09:16 PM

Mainstream is where the major $$$$$ are waiting to be grabbed on the Net.

I'm heavily acquiring main stream domains and ideas for development over the next few years.

I'm developing several major one word mainstream properties right now.

Spunky · 11-05-2004, 09:30 PM

Indeed..Less fucking hassle ..

Sosa · 11-05-2004, 10:00 PM

How much money are you guys using to get started with mainsteam. It is something I've been thinking about but not quite sure or what to do. Anyone have any good articles or something to lead me in the right direction?

Marcus Aurelius · 11-05-2004, 10:03 PM

I have a nice mainstream project in the works right now that when completed will help alot more people get into mainstream profitably as well. Probably when all is said and done I will have about 5k into it. but thats not too bad for the potential ROI.

EscortBiz · 11-05-2004, 10:05 PM

my new mainstream project is rocking and rolling almost seeing a 100% increase in sales weekly

Herb Kornfield · 11-05-2004, 11:55 PM

100% mainstream anymore...

The ROI is far better for time and money invested.
The clients pay net 30 in most cases ( 80%+)
The commissions are paid on time and correctly...

I went from working 18 hours a day at times to 8am to 6pm each day, mon - fri.... pluis returns based on efforts increased 500%..

You have to ask yourself how many hours did it take to make that 150k.... 120 hours a week or 35-40 hours....

ZeroFate · 11-06-2004, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sosa
How much money are you guys using to get started with mainsteam. It is something I've been thinking about but not quite sure or what to do. Anyone have any good articles or something to lead me in the right direction?

I started out with $20. My frist month I ended up turning that $20 into more than I've made in a month at any of my "real" jobs.

11-05-2004, 01:15 PM	#1
Jman Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canuckstikan Posts: 22,722	WHo's dabbling in mainstream ? Been doing adult for a long time now and also gaming wich both do well for me. I have been working on some mainstream stuff for a lill while now and looks like it's going to take off very well. Anyone else investing money and time in mainstream ? What are your thaughts about the amount of money to make in mainstream biz development ? Do you think that applying what we have learned and developped in adult can be transfered into mainstream world and be beneficial for mainstream companies ? __________________ Wowify AI API Porn.AI Affiliates Porn AI email: [email protected] Teams: jean.francois.laverdiere TG: @jman1216

11-05-2004, 01:22 PM	#3
Jman Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canuckstikan Posts: 22,722	Email and also new sales and marketing applications ... now i have to shhhhhhh it __________________ Wowify AI API Porn.AI Affiliates Porn AI email: [email protected] Teams: jean.francois.laverdiere TG: @jman1216

11-05-2004, 01:23 PM	#4
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	im doing a hella lot more then dabbling i love main stream. 0% shave. __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

11-05-2004, 01:25 PM	#7
beergood Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: United States Posts: 2,918	I went from doing 100% adult to about 80% mainstream and 20% adult. What I use primarily in both is search engine optimization skills and the ability to sniff out a scam. Experience in ad placement, CTR, us of linking and effective design are also the same. Most of my business now days is PPC advertising Getting used to peak performance times was a little strange but made since once I got used to it. __________________ icq: 320340263

11-05-2004, 01:29 PM	#8
xclusive Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 35,218	I have a lot of mainstream stuff going on you have to diversify... __________________ I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /

11-05-2004, 01:17 PM	#2
BuckLover Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I'm everywhere Bitches!! Posts: 1,656	What kind of mainstream? details please!

11-05-2004, 01:24 PM	#5
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	I tried to put my foot in mainstream again a little bit but lost interest fast.

11-05-2004, 01:25 PM	#6
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	Mainstream rocks. Just be aware of x-mas as summer sucks ass and we make 35% of our dough in 2 months.

11-05-2004, 01:31 PM	#9
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,469	Slowly trying to make a comeback, starting off slow to feel out the market. WG __________________ I play with Google.

11-05-2004, 01:32 PM	#11
Jman Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canuckstikan Posts: 22,722	Looks like a bunch of you are doing great. Very encouraging to see success stories in mainstream, keep em coming ;-) Now who's attending the New York show on monday. I can't on this one but will defenitly try to make the next big mainstream show, where ever it is. __________________ Wowify AI API Porn.AI Affiliates Porn AI email: [email protected] Teams: jean.francois.laverdiere TG: @jman1216

11-05-2004, 01:32 PM	#12
dirtysouth Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Mobtown Posts: 2,613	Getting more and more into it. Doing the travel thing. We've got a new cruise that leaves out of here and I've been pushing bookings through travelocity using guerilla local advertising techniques.

11-05-2004, 01:33 PM	#13
Eve Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 805	Mainstream rocks. No headaches like in adult. And the marketing does transliterate over very well. __________________ I'm waiting for the Mr Fushion Fleshlight so I can wank my way back to the future!

11-05-2004, 01:38 PM	#16
kush Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,382	There's no money in mainstream, just like there's no money in adult. The entire internet is worthless!

11-05-2004, 01:38 PM	#17
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11-05-2004, 01:43 PM	#21
BoNgHiTtA Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,176	I do mainstream stuff. Ill be at AdTech in San Fran, with a booth. Oh and mainstream networks shave too. __________________ Wanna see how Adult Site Traffic Scammed me? Click Here: Last edited by BoNgHiTtA; 11-05-2004 at 01:44 PM..

11-05-2004, 02:30 PM	#24
MikeVega Porntrepreneur Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New York Posts: 12,788	Our company runs both a mainstream and adult marketing firm and there are some differences. on the adult side people do biz with people and a good business man can go with any company and his clients will follow him. there is a lot more sharing of idea's and profits. I find that in the mainstream side people work with a company ...the sales guy can change 3 times and the client still stays because he trusts the company name. It's strange but that's just been how it's been on my end. __________________ Mike Vega-ICQ:253868499-AIM:mikeydicevega

11-05-2004, 03:16 PM	#26
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11-05-2004, 03:30 PM	#27
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	i do and i do pretty good, but many things to learn. Marketing needs different approach and research is more important and more time consuming. Traffic can be very easy or very hard depending on what you market and that's your audience. Last edited by Theo; 11-05-2004 at 03:32 PM..

11-05-2004, 03:41 PM	#29
Veterans Day Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Windy City Posts: 8,403	Im play with it, read some boards. It just seems mainstream is so far behind the times in terms of marketing and affiliates compared to adult __________________ Build a Massive Traffic Network, Hands FREE, Totally Automated

11-05-2004, 04:24 PM	#36
Warden Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Valencia, CA Posts: 2,906	We're heavy in the mainstream game. __________________ AIM: ZeeRiddler ICQ: 128160005 Warden's MS

11-05-2004, 04:40 PM	#37
mardigras Bon temps! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: down yonder Posts: 14,194	I have several mainstream projects. I've learned more from adult webmaster boards that applies to any net marketing/design than I've ever picked up from non-adult webmaster boards. __________________ .

11-05-2004, 04:58 PM	#38
Realwild-Terry Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: MIAMI Posts: 856	Been doing mainstream for around 3 years and it has its ups and downs. A few features on In Demand Pay Per View Events station and now Viewers Choice Pay Per View as non Adult and under events has helped getting our "Real Wild Girls" brand out . But the mainstream stores are a pain in the arse . We are in most of them with our videos but getting paid is like net 60 and its mainly on consignment, so if dont sell they send em back . But I will always try and keep going mainstream because there is a ton of money in it . __________________ Real Wild Feeds Over 30 All New Feeds from Real Wild Girls! + All new Content Blowouts From Our Summer Tour Footage.

11-05-2004, 06:17 PM	#39
Kevin2 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,429	Started our main stream sites about 5 months ago and sales are great so far which is encouraging. The great thing about our products is we can make a few sales and the profit from them equals and sometimes exceeds our monthly adult sales. __________________ Webmasters Trade Traffic!!!

11-05-2004, 06:47 PM	#40
Rich J. Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: California Posts: 589	I am 100% mainstream now and there's definately a ton of advantages... some disadvantages as well. I would say the main element I miss from my experience in adult is the cooperation amongst competitors as well as a common understanding of how things work. The largest benefit of mainstream is the willingness of affiliates to try out new programs and work with the affiliate manager to achieve a higher level of success. It's 10X easier for me to convince affiliates to generate more leads for my company in mainstream than it ever was to get them to send joins in adult. The reluctance of affiliates to agree to CPA payout terms is definately another drawback in mainstream. By the way, if anyone has any mortgage/refi/finance traffic, I'm paying top dollar for volume leads. See sig. __________________ Adult Web Marketing Specialist with 10 years of Industry Experience - CONTACT ME Last edited by Rich J.; 11-05-2004 at 06:49 PM..

11-05-2004, 09:05 PM	#42
dirtysouth Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Mobtown Posts: 2,613	Bump 4 the night crew.

11-05-2004, 09:06 PM	#43
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	always

11-05-2004, 09:16 PM	#44
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Mainstream is where the major $$$$$ are waiting to be grabbed on the Net. I'm heavily acquiring main stream domains and ideas for development over the next few years. I'm developing several major one word mainstream properties right now. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

11-05-2004, 09:30 PM	#45
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11-05-2004, 10:00 PM	#46
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	How much money are you guys using to get started with mainsteam. It is something I've been thinking about but not quite sure or what to do. Anyone have any good articles or something to lead me in the right direction?

11-05-2004, 10:03 PM	#47
Marcus Aurelius No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 14,809	I have a nice mainstream project in the works right now that when completed will help alot more people get into mainstream profitably as well. Probably when all is said and done I will have about 5k into it. but thats not too bad for the potential ROI.

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11-05-2004, 11:55 PM	#49
Herb Kornfield Is on the 1 Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philly Burbs Posts: 4,996	100% mainstream anymore... The ROI is far better for time and money invested. The clients pay net 30 in most cases ( 80%+) The commissions are paid on time and correctly... I went from working 18 hours a day at times to 8am to 6pm each day, mon - fri.... pluis returns based on efforts increased 500%.. You have to ask yourself how many hours did it take to make that 150k.... 120 hours a week or 35-40 hours....