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Old 12-14-2004, 03:32 PM   #1
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No Ibill EU Payout before Xmas?

Any EU guys getting anything from them? The news on the EU payout has been delayed another week after just being delayed for the past two weeks.

I'm one of their biggest supporters and I'm speechless. They must be using the EU money to pay the USA guys.
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Old 12-14-2004, 03:35 PM   #2
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no you EU Guys have to wait for us USA guys to get paid first
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Pay Peter with Paul's money..

Then pay Paul with Peter's money ...

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so far the US guys only got 1 payment since Sept 15th, that was on Dec 1. Another payment is due tommorow but from the looks of things it will surely be delayed too. Also US revshares did not receive their payouts on Dec 8th and still have not been paid at all. With all this said, I don't think things look so good over there right now
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Then pay Paul with Peter's money ...

But what about John ???
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saddest thing is that they still will be at internext signing up new webmasters and telling everyone at the booth - your money is in the mail.
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so far the US guys only got 1 payment since Sept 15th, that was on Dec 1. Another payment is due tommorow but from the looks of things it will surely be delayed too. Also US revshares did not receive their payouts on Dec 8th and still have not been paid at all. With all this said, I don't think things look so good over there right now
Some of my revshare guys started to raise a public stink about this and I had to pay them out personally last week.

Ibill what is the definitive word on things? It would be a good time for some comments.
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I don't believe in any payouts at all anymore.
I have heard too many times that I will get my money "soon".

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What are they posting on the CMI ?
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so far the US guys only got 1 payment since Sept 15th, that was on Dec 1. Another payment is due tommorow but from the looks of things it will surely be delayed too. Also US revshares did not receive their payouts on Dec 8th and still have not been paid at all. With all this said, I don't think things look so good over there right now
I called tonight to ask if US will be paid tomorrow and was told it didnt look as if we would. They said that they still don't have promissary notes available or when we will get our past due payouts either. Once again... doesn't look good. Guess we will see tomorrow.

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I called tonight to ask if US will be paid tomorrow and was told it didnt look as if we would. They said that they still don't have promissary notes available or when we will get our past due payouts either. Once again... doesn't look good. Guess we will see tomorrow.

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Thats truly bad news

But hey - they´ve come to a completely new level in custumer service, actually admitting they´re planning on not paying is a huge step for them ´

I´d more like have supposed a CMI message ala: ""All payments have gone out as planned. However, our new bank, the postal system, the government of Honduras and Santa Claus might postpone the delivery, so please wait a month before asking us what happened to your cheque
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I called tonight to ask if US will be paid tomorrow and was told it didnt look as if we would. They said that they still don't have promissary notes available or when we will get our past due payouts either. Once again... doesn't look good. Guess we will see tomorrow.

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Right now im wondering if there will be any future payouts at all. December 1st was the date ibill last paid out any monies, Then on the 6th their buyers pulled out and since then they haven't paid anyone. Is it just a concidence? I have no idea but thats what im thinking.




Also its preposterous that they haven't paid the revshares, it only makes sense that they should have been paid when the master accounts were paid. It really makes me think something bad is going on.

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Right now im wondering if there will be any future payouts at all. December 1st was the date ibill last paid out any monies, Then on the 6th their buyers pulled out and since then they haven't paid anyone. Is it just a concidence? I have no idea but thats what im thinking.




Also its preposterous that they haven't paid the revshares, it only makes sense that they should have been paid when the master accounts were paid. It really makes me think something bad is going on.


I'm waiting for tomorrow and then making a game plan.

They are still processing rebills and taking signups so they are still making money somehow.

If they fall through tomorrow as far as payouts being paid... it'll soon be the end for ibill. Too many webmasters are going to be refunding whats been charged and contacting members and such. We're just all sooo tired emotionally from all this and really want to move on.

I hear they are STILL working on the promissary notes after promising to have them done weeks ago and they are saying that EU will be processed but not saying when. They may have a backup plan as far as the buyers pulling out go. It's hard to say at this point.

Even though they were late before they did pay something .... but the phone call earlier didn't make me feel any better about tomorrow or the future.

*Holding on to a glimpse of hope*

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I called tonight to ask if US will be paid tomorrow and was told it didnt look as if we would. They said that they still don't have promissary notes available or when we will get our past due payouts either. Once again... doesn't look good. Guess we will see tomorrow.

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thats interesting because my rep said it was good to go and she has been very honest with us the good and the bad.
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thats interesting because my rep said it was good to go and she has been very honest with us the good and the bad.
Hmmm, lets hope she´s right.

Is that an IbillEU or US account?
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thats interesting because my rep said it was good to go and she has been very honest with us the good and the bad.
I'm hoping your right .... the guy did say " Doesnt look good" NOT "you wont get Jack". But with the EU being this late and getting another notice in a week ( tells me they aren't paying before then), plus revshare not being paid......it would make sense for it to "not look good" for US tomorrow. But we shall see ...... *crosses fingers* My rep was not available yesterday so I was shuffled to someone I was not familiar with. I'll be calling in the AM to see if she is available then.


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Thats truly bad news

But hey - they´ve come to a completely new level in custumer service, actually admitting they´re planning on not paying is a huge step for them ´

I´d more like have supposed a CMI message ala: ""All payments have gone out as planned. However, our new bank, the postal system, the government of Honduras and Santa Claus might postpone the delivery, so please wait a month before asking us what happened to your cheque
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I don't get why the EU would be affected with the US ... EU is still processing strong right ?

That means they are pulling a buttload of $ in the bank ... maybe the plan to keep it or what ?
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Heres how they are providing customer service to surfers/your customers.

http://www.kernow.com/bcurnow/blog/archive.asp?id=204
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So, basically, iBill is double-billing surfers at the same time that they are not paying out webmasters?!

I'd say it's only a short matter of time before the Feds get involved, and that at this rate iBill probably won't make it to the end of January.
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I called my *real* rep this am and she told me that she heard US WAS getting paid today. She is "99% positive we will get paid today". Said we should all know by noon EST today for sure. Sounds like a promising comment Let's hope. This would mean good things for US, revshare and EU.


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I called my *real* rep this am and she told me that she heard US WAS getting paid today. She is "99% positive we will get paid today". Said we should all know by noon EST today for sure. Sounds like a promising comment Let's hope. This would mean good things for US, revshare and EU.


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I heard the same from my rep, looks like they're paying today!
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I called my *real* rep this am and she told me that she heard US WAS getting paid today. She is "99% positive we will get paid today". Said we should all know by noon EST today for sure. Sounds like a promising comment Let's hope. This would mean good things for US, revshare and EU.


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Thanks for the info. I sure hope its true!
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Some of you people are really blind. I've said this in like 10 different ibill threads.They are stalling while they are filling for bankruptcy, kiss your money bye bye and move on......Thats my
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Some of you people are really blind. I've said this in like 10 different ibill threads.They are stalling while they are filling for bankruptcy, kiss your money bye bye and move on......Thats my
blind about what? hoping to receive monies we've already earned? I know they aren't a stable company nor do I expect them to make it.. but I am going to fight for every cent I can get out of them before that happens.
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So...cc details in unsecure e-mails. That really does sum the while fiasco up perfectly.
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After getting sick of waiting forever for my ibill direct application to go through (anyone actually on that yet?)

I called and had them switch to gkard

I lost over 400 members to declines
and a lot of people emailed saying they knew their accounts had money in them
and some said that while their card was declined by ibill.. their bank account shows a pending charge.

But I have been telling people for months to switch to ccbill.. so now this just gives them extra incentive.

Other people were pissed about getting double and triple charged not understanding that they havent been billed in a while.

It has certainly caused a headache

*sigh* i just want my money
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2.35 hours late on the wire...................

IT DOES NOT LOOK GOOD! The Wires allways are on time.
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Just called AGAIN to find out about payouts today and alas...... NO money was paid out today. Told me there would be a update in CMI shortly about the payout delay. Guess the guy last night was barking up the right tree.

Sorry everyone

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i figured as much, theres no way they can pay the master accounts again without paying out the revshares first.

My feeling is they ran out of money when the investors pulled out earlier in the month. Now they're simply broke.
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I´d be surprised if anyone knew...but hey - I´m a big fan of charity, so it doesnt bother me at all to see the money from all the rebills and a few signups going to some stranger...
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Thanks, hehe

I know its most likely idiotic to put a single more cent into the black hole formerly referred to as ibill. But well, dont really have a choice on the site in question.

(...and a couple of signups keep the account active I guess, not that there´s much of a likelyhood its gonna matter much...)

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Please be advised that we are currently experiencing a delay with the US payout for check date 12/15/04. However, this payout is still on track to be processed and paid.

Another update regarding the US payout will be posted by Friday December 17, 2004.


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