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sean416

it fucks some people up, murder fucks all people up.

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Libertine

Bullshit. It happened to me, I'm still functioning normally. Happened to other people I know, they're still functioning normally.


Now, on the other hand, let's take crimes like "not watching out while driving" or "drunk driving", those things have destroyed the lives of quite a few people I know. Much bigger effects than sexual abuse could ever have.

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If you find yourself feeling bad for the pedo who was murdered . . . you might try shifting that sympathy over to all of the honest and good people who are murdered every single day.

media

Murdered by people like the people who took the law into their own hands and killed the pedo..

Murder is Murder.. period..

Even honest and good people comit murder.. Things happen, people snap the fuck out.. but thats no excuse for police not to investigate it..

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Are you sure?


( just kiddin )

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Remember, the most important part of criminal law is the "the mindset" or "intent" of the accused.

If you hurt or kill someone and don't mean to, you might not be a criminal.

Libertine

Two terms to clear that up: criminal neglect, involuntary manslaughter.

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jeffrey

No chance, he took pictures of what he did. Even more sick.



Good thing everyone on the planet deals and is effected the same way as you are.

Girl I went to school with ended up killing herself, cause her father molested her as a child, and when she found out he was released she couldnt stand it anymore and killed herself.
Yup, thats normal.

Libertine

I knew a guy who killed himself because his girlfriend broke up with him.

If you kill yourself, or are unable to function in society, that's not because of a single thing like this happening. There is much, much more needed to cause things like that, like emotional instability etc.

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Libertine

Come to think of it, if events like sexual abuse have the power to by themselves determine someone's entire life, that would take away most child molesters' responsibility for their actions.

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media

I could not agree more.. I have been in a state where I have had suicidal tendencies.. I can tell you it sucks really bad, you get into a place where nothing seems like it will get better, its the fight or flight mechanism in your amigdula that causes this to happen.. You need to get some help and possibly meds if you feel ending your life is the only option..

I can say that I am a survivor who has done the right things in my life to ensure that I can function in society..

There is no such thing as normal just to make a point.. there is healthy and unhealthy..

The girl who killed herself because her father was getting relased was unhealthy..

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MetaMan

eye for an eye, it should run the world u would have less idiots everywhere, this pedo faggot deserved to die, i 100% belive in vigilantism if he is proven to be a pedo he deserves to die.

i seriously hope you get raped one day and we will see how you respond.

or if your child was raped you are gonna say let the system handle it, and if he serves his 17 years he payed his sentence?

you are a fool.

Libertine

Read this thread, you illiterate moron.

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media

You are an illiterate fuck metaman.. you should eat a dick for the fact that you cant even read my posts through enough to grasp some specific details before you make some half cocked comments..

You sir are the fucking fool.. and if you step to me in vegas I will knock you on your ass...

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evanmorgan

this isnt acceptable at all, as media said he may have been "a changed man". The fact remains that if we encourage this behaviour then it could happen to anyone, whether they are a paedo or not. There was a case in glasgow where a white kid was picked up on the street by a gang of asians in a car. They thought he was the person that beat up one of their little brothers or summin. They spent two days beating him to death, he was 14 years old. I think this illustrates what i mean. The police force is there for a reason, and it isnt "our right" to enforce anything ourselfs. Clearly this man didnt actually fuck any of the children because they were ages between 12 months and 5 years old. Oh well, i just dont think things like that should happen.

Infact now i think of it, a newspaper in britain printed the names, addresses and pictures of 100 sex offenders. That day, a man was hung in a pub because of this mob rule that you are all openly supporting. It turns out they printed the name of a totally innocent man..........

Evan

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TNALee

no time was enough for this creep or any other pedos....we dont need them in our world, we have way too many people as it is. Any little weirdos like this should be cleansed from us and thats my believe. The cops shouldnt do anything about this and any other convicted serial rapist or child molestor should get whats coming to him. The chances he will repeat are way too high to take a chance.

69pornlinks

says the fruit who think it's ok for the pigs to send 50,000 volts through a SIX YEAR OLD CHILD....

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Libertine

If you read that article you'll see it's hardly something to laugh about.

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evanmorgan

Okay, give me your name and address, ill tell some thugs that you are a paedo, I doubt they do any research. With mob rule if you dont like someone, just say hes a paedo and he will get killed.

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Pipecrew

People with your mindset should be the ones cleansed... Next we will have to get rid of the jews and blacks!!

evanmorgan

Only criminals call the police pigs............

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evanmorgan

your a fucking stupid dick

thats one of the saddest articles ive ever read, a disabled foreign bloke who cant speak english and thinks that everyone hates him, and he has no idea why. Ill tell you why, because they are idiots......

Ev

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You've completely missed the point. You can actually kill someone and not be guilty of ANY crime. Involuntary manslaughter requires criminal intent or criminal negligence. Do you understand? The most important part of a crime is the "intent" or "mindset" of the accused.

Accidents can happen. Especially while driving (re: your post).

But, a child molester (unless found ~insane) is fucked!

There isn't one single acceptable explanation (defense) for why a pedo ass raped a child (or the like).

Your honor, my client tripped over a chair and his pants fell down and his cock went into the child?s mouth. He tried moving his hips forward and back to get his cock out of the mouth but he wasn't able. I respectfully request that you allow him to go home and he promises to really try to not let this sort of thing happen again.

media

I don't think anyone is trying to dispute that what the pedo did was wrong, I think what alot of us dispute is the way civilians took law into their own hand and tried to make an example out of the guy, and killing him in the end..

The clear example I grasped, is that they are criminals and should be punished as such as well..

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Libertine

Apparently, you have entirely missed the point. Driving drunk is not an accident, nor is not watching out while driving. They are things one chooses to do, which can have disastrous consequences.


People are saying that what child molesters are doing is worse than anything else because of the impact it has on the life of the victim.
Meanwhile, the impact on other people of drunk driving or not watching out while driving can be far, far greater.

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You must be brain damaged.

I can't explain it any more clear than previously posted.

Remember, once you state publicly that you think child molestation is not as bad as "not watching out while driving"

. . . you can pretty much expect to be ignored or laughed at from now on (no matter what you post).

Kevsh

I agree. Do you know anything more about this guy? I believe it's unlikely he changed his ways (or perverted fantasies) behind bars but he did his time.

It's not impossible he was honestly trying to straighten himself out and then this happens.

On the other hand, yes, maybe he's still a sick bastard and had what's coming to him ... but I wouldn't pass judgement on this without knowing the whole story.

(And if some of you do know everything, just ignore - I'm just talking to those making "blind" statements)

Libertine

I know several people whose lives have been physically destroyed by people not watching out while driving.

All the people I know who have been sexually abused as children - including myself - have been able to deal with it.

Now, do tell, what makes sexual abuse worse than not watching out while driving if not the consequences?

And please note, I'm not saying not watching out while driving actually is worse, I'm just creating a context to see sexual abuse of children in, different from the normal irrational, hysterical view on it.

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I was addressing punkworld's "crazy" post.

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I have already told you.

I am no longer discussing this topic with you. Please feel free to continue without me.

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I did want to post that I am very sorry to hear that you were/are a victim. I am very glad to hear that you have overcome. You must be a very strong and positive person.

Libertine

The problem with you is that you consider everything that doesn't follow your cultural instincts to the letter as "crazy". Rationality sometimes is a good alternative for unfounded claims of "common sense", you should try it some time

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I guess the "there is worse than child abuse" folks have no kids themselves

Child abuse fucks up 3+ people at once: the child, the mother, and the father

TNALee

your comparing jews and blacks to pedos? your wrong, so so wrong

evanmorgan

oh my god you are one ignorant loser.......it was obviously said as a joke............

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Sorry but I am not going to debate with you, because . . .


you is crazy!

Libertine

Let me ask you a simple question, what would be worse: if your child got abused, but still was able to lead an otherwise good life after that, or if your child died?

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jeffrey

There is INTENT behind molesting a child. The want was there and they did it.

I dont know many people that start a night off by thinking, I'm going to go and fuck someone up by crashing my car into theirs, maybe if I'm lucky I could kill them.
But if you do think that, then your fucked up too.



Just cause you must have liked being the victim as a child you are saying no one else can be effected later in life.
As I said, the one girl I went to highschool killed herself cause of it.. I would say thats not really living a normal life dealing with it.
I know another person that was "almost raped" on a date even and she is scared all the time now, and illegally carries a gun, cause she thinks getting cuaght with it is a lesser risk then not having it and needing it.

Seriously, are you and advacate of pedophile actions or something? saying it doesnt change anything in the victims life. are you a pedo?

Libertine

The intent behind molesting a child, in almost all cases, is personal gratification - not hurting, traumatizing or damaging the child. Those are just consequences of the action.
Likewise, the intent behind driving drunk isn't to destroy people's lives, that's just a consequence.



If you had said that to my face, you would be lying face-down in a puddle of blood right now. Say it again, and I will make you pay for it if I ever meet you.

Aside from that, nice way to show that you care about the victims, you pathetic piece of shit.


Once again, like I already said, a single event does not have the power to completely determine someone's life.

If you think it does, then most pedo's aren't responsible for their, you dumb fuck.

Do you want a fucking knife sticking from your empty head?

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Dear god,

Please provide "punkworld" with a brain. Punkworld is clearly not a smart person and should not be judged by these incoherent, inconsistent and flat out stupid posts. Help those (like punkworld) who can't think their way out of a paper bag because they truly need your help. Thank you.

Santa, if god fails to deliver (and you are listening) . . . punkworld needs a brain and would love for you to deliver one next Saturday!

SureFire

Unbelievable that a person who served his time was beaten up and killed while shopping, and the local police are looking the other way with no investigation. I could understand if they caught the pedo in action. But, just because strangers (local thugs) recognized him as a sex offender doesn?t give them the right to kill (I know once a pedo always a pedo and our laws should change).

I would hate to live in that town that the police admire murders.

Libertine

You have no arguments, no logic, just lame insults. You lose.

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jeffrey

See you were effected in some way...

I hope you are a big guy or have a weapon, emtpy checks over the internet could need a big guy to cash.


In EVERY post you DEFENT pedo's.... What the fuck did you think everyone would think?
Are you a pedo? you havent answered that, and from your replies so far I dont know if you are or arent.



The news is still sketchy at best on it. but there is and "update" with "unreal new information" in 35 minutes. I'll post an update.

wyldblyss

What you say sounds perfectly logical for just about every single crime EXCEPT for sexual acts against children. Pedophiles even say they can't be rehabilitated and should NEVER be trusted around children...EVER! There has even been several instances where these men have asked to be castrated. Yes, these men, upon release go on drugs to control their sexual urges, but the majority of them stop taking them and they are back to their old ways. There is a big difference between a person charged with robbing stores...they can be rehabilitated.....pedophiles can't. Until you have walked in the shoes of a child who has been sexually abused you can never understand the trauma these children go through. Many of them are fucked up for life, even with a great deal of therapy. Trust is next to impossible for them.

Libertine

Ofcourse it had an effect, you fucking idiot. That does not mean that it determined my entire life. In the end, people bear responsibility for their own actions and their own life, unless they are physically entirely prevented from determining it.

A bad childhood is no excuse for abusing children, an alcoholic father is no excuse for robbing liquor stores, getting abused is no excuse for killing yourself, getting bullied in elementary school is no excuse for not finding a job when you're an adult. Simple as that.


As for empty checks... What the fuck are you talking about?


What you don't seem to be getting is that if I believe in a society ruled by law rather than a society where everyone just creates his own law, that does not mean that I defend pedophiles. Rather, it means that I believe that a society where idiots such as yourself simply kill all those they think deserve it will very closely resemble hell.
And no, I'm not a pedo, you fucking ignorant piece of shit. Get it through your thick skull that people can disagree with you without being pedophiles

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Libertine

In the other thread about this we already talked about chemical castration, and I think everyone agrees that with the normal amount of recidive you see among sex offenders, they shouldn't just be set free after a normal prison sentence. However, that does not excuse murder.

As for the comment that "Until you have walked in the shoes of a child who has been sexually abused you can never understand the trauma these children go through", if you would have actually read this thread, you'd know that he has.

In fact, so have I, and I would really appreciate it if people like you would stop assuming that people like me now have to be "fucked up for life", "mentally ruined", "in need of great therapy", "impossible to trust people", etc.

For heaven's sake, don't you see that shit like that has huge negative consequences? Tell someone their life is over often enough, and they just might start believing you.

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Drake

I think that society's thinking about Pedophilia is wrong. It's not something that can be 'rehabilitated'. Rehabilitation means their is something to rehabilitate. There is nothing to rehabilitate in a pedo. They have a sexual preference for children. This cannot be cured. They need to be locked up forever.

That's like telling a straight man that he can't have sex with women anymore. Try to imagine how difficult that would be. Something in the pedo's brain chemistry tells him that he is sexually attracted to children. I don't even think a drug would resolve this issue because we know that people don't take drugs they're supposed to many times. I know I couldn't take a drug just so that I don't have the urge to have sex with women. It's what I enjoy.

Libertine

In the other thread about this, I posted several links to studies that found that drugs had a huge positive effect in preventing recidive. In fact, in one study it fell from 75% to 2%.

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