Online drugstores doomed?? - GoFuckYourself.com

Choker · 04-23-2005, 03:02 PM

With the recent raids are any of you guys thinking about pulling your links to drugstores? I sure as hell am thinking about it

Rui · 04-23-2005, 03:14 PM

So you link and promote what are most likely illegal pharma shops...ehhhhhhh (not trying to stir shit just honestly curious, didn't expected you to be in that "market")

XPays · 04-23-2005, 03:16 PM

it amazes me some of the sites that are littered with pharmacy links, especially when it is a high profile domain with a ppc search engine.

After Shock Media · 04-23-2005, 03:16 PM

Hmm a conspiracy rico charge could get very interesting.

On another note, I do not promote drugs of any type nor do I promote the herbals snakeoils that are not FDA approved. Yeah I may be loosing money and those that do promote them, keep your share of the pie.

Choker · 04-23-2005, 03:43 PM

Well other than a few links to galleries that promote them, I do not directly advertise any. But we are searching and deleting all links to any we can find now

frankfortuna · 04-23-2005, 03:46 PM

The issue is the sale and distribution of controlled substances, not all pharmaceuticals in general. If you're not promoting substances that are under DEA regulation with a pharmacy program that follows the rules, you are fine.

Choker · 04-23-2005, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by frankfortuna

The issue is the sale and distribution of controlled substances, not all pharmaceuticals in general. If you're not promoting substances that are under DEA regulation with a pharmacy program that follows the rules, you are fine.

Yeah but how can you be ASSURED a pill store is following all laws? You can't. I'm not about to bet jail time on a sponsor. I think I will play it safe and just not link them at all.

Veterans Day · 04-23-2005, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Yeah but how can you be ASSURED a pill store is following all laws? You can't. I'm not about to bet jail time on a sponsor. I think I will play it safe and just not link them at all.

Very smart responsible move

Choker · 04-23-2005, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Veterans Day

Very smart responsible move

Nah I am jsut a chickenshit . LOL

I just sent out a broadcast email to all the CTTS users........

Since it appears the feds are cracking down on online pharmacies, I think it is only prudent to conduct some proactive damage control. Effective NOW, I will no longer send traffic to any site whether it be a free site, gallery, paysite, whatever that sells or advertises for sale any pills, lotions, cremes, herbs, or anything of this nature. If you are currently buying traffic to a site that does this, please stop your order, reverse the hits then delete it. I am sorry for the inconvenience but I would rather be safe than sorry. It does not matter if the pills,cremes, etc are over the counter or prescription. They all need to go. If you need a refund of money after reversing and deleting these orders, just request a refund in the bank. Thank you

warlock5 · 04-23-2005, 04:14 PM

I usually watch what Google Adword's is doing. I figure if they don't allow it then its best to stay away. They can afford to pay lawyers way more money than I can.

As far as drugs of the prescription variety -
"Websites advertising prescription drugs or using prescription drug keywords targeted to the U.S. must be SquareTrade certified. Ads will not run until a valid SquareTrade identification number is provided. SquareTrade membership is only available for online pharmacies based in the U.S. or Canada. Please review our FAQ for further details, or review Google's Online Pharmacy Qualification Program."

Google doesn't allow gambling anymore either, so I'm not going to touch it. On the other hand they don't allow tobacco, but I run a cigar blog.

Penis enlargement pills and all that herbal stuff? Google prohibits "miracle cures." Alternatively herbal stuff is advertised on television and Clear Channel radio stations. I'd be careful with that one but not necessarily avoid it altogether.

Choker · 04-23-2005, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by warlock5

I usually watch what Google Adword's is doing. I figure if they don't allow it then its best to stay away. They can afford to pay lawyers way more money than I can.

As far as drugs of the prescription variety -
"Websites advertising prescription drugs or using prescription drug keywords targeted to the U.S. must be SquareTrade certified. Ads will not run until a valid SquareTrade identification number is provided. SquareTrade membership is only available for online pharmacies based in the U.S. or Canada. Please review our FAQ for further details, or review Google's Online Pharmacy Qualification Program."

Google doesn't allow gambling anymore either, so I'm not going to touch it. On the other hand they don't allow tobacco, but I run a cigar blog.

Penis enlargement pills and all that herbal stuff? Google prohibits "miracle cures." Alternatively herbal stuff is advertised on television and Clear Channel radio stations. I'd be careful with that one but not necessarily avoid it altogether.

Great info, thanks

Juicy D. Links · 04-23-2005, 04:20 PM

I get all my meds from my pharmacy with legal scripts. I love my shrink

vicki · 04-23-2005, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Nah I am jsut a chickenshit . LOL

I just sent out a broadcast email to all the CTTS users........

Since it appears the feds are cracking down on online pharmacies, I think it is only prudent to conduct some proactive damage control. Effective NOW, I will no longer send traffic to any site whether it be a free site, gallery, paysite, whatever that sells or advertises for sale any pills, lotions, cremes, herbs, or anything of this nature. If you are currently buying traffic to a site that does this, please stop your order, reverse the hits then delete it. I am sorry for the inconvenience but I would rather be safe than sorry. It does not matter if the pills,cremes, etc are over the counter or prescription. They all need to go. If you need a refund of money after reversing and deleting these orders, just request a refund in the bank. Thank you

Its a very select group that is under scrutiny. The penis enlargement pills, lotions, cremes, and MOST herbs are fine - its the true pharmacutals being watched.
jfyi - there was some pre-warning to this in the wind, it wasn't as out of the blue as some would think.

BlingDaddy · 04-23-2005, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by warlock5

I usually watch what Google Adword's is doing. I figure if they don't allow it then its best to stay away. They can afford to pay lawyers way more money than I can.

As far as drugs of the prescription variety -
"Websites advertising prescription drugs or using prescription drug keywords targeted to the U.S. must be SquareTrade certified. Ads will not run until a valid SquareTrade identification number is provided. SquareTrade membership is only available for online pharmacies based in the U.S. or Canada. Please review our FAQ for further details, or review Google's Online Pharmacy Qualification Program."

Google doesn't allow gambling anymore either, so I'm not going to touch it. On the other hand they don't allow tobacco, but I run a cigar blog.

Penis enlargement pills and all that herbal stuff? Google prohibits "miracle cures." Alternatively herbal stuff is advertised on television and Clear Channel radio stations. I'd be careful with that one but not necessarily avoid it altogether.

Warlock - Good info. That's the only thing I even look at is the herbal stuff. I'll run banners from time to time and that's pretty much it. As far as prescriptions of any kind whether "over the counter" or not. My thought always has been people should be getting it at a pharmacy, not online anyway.

BlingDaddy · 04-23-2005, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by vicki

Its a very select group that is under scrutiny. The penis enlargement pills, lotions, cremes, and MOST herbs are fine - its the true pharmacutals being watched.
jfyi - there was some pre-warning to this in the wind, it wasn't as out of the blue as some would think.

Exactly.... Astroglides a cream/lotion........ LMAO

2HousePlague · 04-23-2005, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by XPays

it amazes me some of the sites that are littered with pharmacy links, especially when it is a high profile domain with a ppc search engine.

Amazing, yes.

There are unexpected commixtures of all sorts, creating positions of enormous vulnerability.

Choker's right, it's almost impossible to measure your degree of exposure.

warlock5, Google's NOT the "leading indicator" you want here -- they have indemnifications you don't. When you see a revision in policy like this, they are usually just dotting i's and crossing t's as evidence of compliance AFTER the meaningful fact.

j-

Rui · 04-23-2005, 04:31 PM

I think banning even legal herbals is a bit extreme Choker, I mean one thing is banning people selling Valium, Viagra, Vicodin, a whole different thing is people selling Gilko Bilboa for example ;)

vicki · 04-23-2005, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BlingDaddy

Exactly.... Astroglides a cream/lotion........ LMAO

astroglide .. ROFLMAO

umm .. I'd like to make it clear that I ONLY know about astroglide from having seen rednecks telling jokes about in on video. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!!

Choker · 04-23-2005, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui

I think banning even legal herbals is a bit extreme Choker, I mean one thing is banning people selling Valium, Viagra, Vicodin, a whole different thing is people selling Gilko Bilboa for example ;)

Yeah but at the same time most herbal sites also sell other things. I can't and do not have the time to check every page and product on their sites

Rui · 04-23-2005, 05:54 PM

What about have a "green list" of reputable companys?

Jace · 04-23-2005, 05:57 PM

I have my pharmacies that I use online to get pretty much anything I want...A doctor calls me and verfies everything and I send him medical history and shit...pretty legit stuff

I can get anything I want pretty much through them...anything at all

BigMoneyTexa$ · 04-23-2005, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by vicki

astroglide .. ROFLMAO

umm .. I'd like to make it clear that I ONLY know about astroglide from having seen rednecks telling jokes about in on video. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!!

Colin Quinn Baby holla!

Jace · 04-23-2005, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by vicki

astroglide .. ROFLMAO

umm .. I'd like to make it clear that I ONLY know about astroglide from having seen rednecks telling jokes about in on video. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!!

LOL

how bizarre, someone digitally blushing from the mention of astroglide on a porn forum

i have like 17 different varieties of lube in my drawers...

2HousePlague · 04-23-2005, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui

What about have a "green list" of reputable companys?

LOL -- is that anything like a "white-list" of non-spammers?

j-

jimmyf · 04-23-2005, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord of the fungi

Hmm a conspiracy rico charge could get very interesting.

On another note, I do not promote drugs of any type nor do I promote the herbals snakeoils that are not FDA approved. Yeah I may be loosing money and those that do promote them, keep your share of the pie.

me is with you.
And they think if they are not in the USA the long arm of the law can't get'm.

Rui · 04-23-2005, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

LOL -- is that anything like a "white-list" of non-spammers?

j-

excuse me, but I don't think you understood what I was suggesting, unless you are implying all the herbal companys on the net are spammers...which is well a bit ridiculous to say the least...

jimmyf · 04-23-2005, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by frankfortuna

The issue is the sale and distribution of controlled substances, not all pharmaceuticals in general. If you're not promoting substances that are under DEA regulation with a pharmacy program that follows the rules, you are fine.

read what Lord of the fungi posted
herbals snakeoils

they have been looking at them longer than they have controlled substances and doctor writing them or lack of doctor, a bunch of shit. i wouldn't touch'm before with a 10' pole now it's a 60' pole.

2HousePlague · 04-23-2005, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui

excuse me, but I don't think you understood what I was suggesting, unless you are implying all the herbal companys on the net are spammers...which is well a bit ridiculous to say the least...

Of course not.

The comparison was intended to highlight the fact that a "green list" would be as meaningless a protection from prosecution as a white list is (in the wholly separate realm of spam) -- your presence on the list, or the presence of a company you might do business with on the list, means DICK-SQUAT in the event a criminal infraction is brought to light.

I think Choker's looking to stay out of jail, not just have his domains unblocked.

j-

jimmyf · 04-23-2005, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui

I think banning even legal herbals is a bit extreme Choker, I mean one thing is banning people selling Valium, Viagra, Vicodin, a whole different thing is people selling Gilko Bilboa for example ;)

now who in the fuck knows what Gilko Bilboa is ?? I don't it might be a very common Herb, so Choker has 2 get a Herb's Dictionary and do some research on galleries.... Hello

Not being a smart ass but

Jace · 04-23-2005, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyf

now who in the fuck knows what Gilko Bilboa is ??

um...almost everyone...even my mom takes ginko biloba...one of the most popular/common herbs taken

they even sell it on the counters of convenient stores

r3ap3r · 04-23-2005, 06:33 PM

I get my meds from the doc.

tony286 · 04-23-2005, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX

LOL

how bizarre, someone digitally blushing from the mention of astroglide on a porn forum

i have like 17 different varieties of lube in my drawers...

stop playing with those glass dildos you'll hurt yourself lol

Jace · 04-23-2005, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

stop playing with those glass dildos you'll hurt yourself lol

oooo...baby...nothing like some glass and astroglide sliding up the butthole

haha

LittleMack · 04-23-2005, 07:18 PM

I dabbled in it for a month or so, then saw the writing on the wall last year...they are poison

SureFire · 04-23-2005, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Nah I am jsut a chickenshit . LOL

I just sent out a broadcast email to all the CTTS users........

Since it appears the feds are cracking down on online pharmacies, I think it is only prudent to conduct some proactive damage control. Effective NOW, I will no longer send traffic to any site whether it be a free site, gallery, paysite, whatever that sells or advertises for sale any pills, lotions, cremes, herbs, or anything of this nature. If you are currently buying traffic to a site that does this, please stop your order, reverse the hits then delete it. I am sorry for the inconvenience but I would rather be safe than sorry. It does not matter if the pills,cremes, etc are over the counter or prescription. They all need to go. If you need a refund of money after reversing and deleting these orders, just request a refund in the bank. Thank you

Good move...kind of. I doubt that any herbal pills will harm any one unless they have high blood pressure. Not sure if all cremes and lotion should be banned. And if some one is dumb enough to buy a 'dick enlarger machine' then they deserve to have their penis hurt or damaged

As far as the online fake pharmacies, they should all be shut down. JMO

Jace · 04-23-2005, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SureFire

Good move...kind of. I doubt that any herbal pills will harm any one unless they have high blood pressure. Not sure if all cremes and lotion should be banned. And if some one is dumb enough to buy a 'dick enlarger machine' then they deserve to have their penis hurt or damaged

As far as the online fake pharmacies, they should all be shut down. JMO

i actually read an article lately where someone was suing an affiliate (and program) for selling a penis enlarging pill...i will see if I can dig it up...i am pretty sure it was a group of people doing the suing

SureFire · 04-23-2005, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX

i actually read an article lately where someone was suing an affiliate (and program) for selling a penis enlarging pill...i will see if I can dig it up...i am pretty sure it was a group of people doing the suing

Please do, I have no problem pulling down any of my links. I really don't promote this stuff but I have one domain that I thought was funny and gets type ins and always thought it would be funny if some one actually brought one of those penis enlargers devices. Really not worth a law suit though.

Choker · 04-24-2005, 08:43 AM

Wow, lots of good info here and I see most people have strong opinions about these pharmacies.

Choker · 04-24-2005, 01:37 PM

Does anyone have any links to the press releases about these recent raids?

Rollin Studios · 04-24-2005, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Online drugstores doomed??

Without a question.

BlackCrayon · 04-24-2005, 02:41 PM

as long as there is demand, they will always be out there. i can't see as an affiliate how you could get into trouble but i can understand the concern. but banning herbal shit like penis pills is a bit too much in my opinion.

warlock5 · 04-24-2005, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX

i actually read an article lately where someone was suing an affiliate (and program) for selling a penis enlarging pill...i will see if I can dig it up...i am pretty sure it was a group of people doing the suing

This may have been it.. I read an article in a magazine or newspaper several months back as well.

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"Long before federal agents raided its Forest Park headquarters in March, Berkeley Premium Nutraceuticals touted its flagship product, Enzyte, as a cure for under-endowed men.

"Maximize the pleasure," says the Enzyte ad that ran in Men's Health magazine in late 2001. "Over the course of the eight-month program, your erectile chambers, as well as your penis, will enlarge up to 41 percent." Enzyte's "success rate," the ad said, was 98.3 percent.

But with each passing year, Berkeley has reined in the claims. Today, the company simply labels Enzyte, perhaps the most widely advertised product of its kind, as a "natural male enhancement" for "firmer, fuller-feeling erections."

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The toning down of Enzyte's claims occurred as authorities began paying more attention to similar products:

Last July, two principals of an Arizona herbal supplements company named C.P. Direct were sentenced to six months in jail after they pleaded guilty to fraud and money laundering.

Before the state Attorney General's office shut it down in 2002, C.P. Direct sold not only a male product called Longitude but also products that promised to grow breasts, grow hair, increase height and improve one's golf game. A receiver is still at work trying to recover $60 million in assets to pay back customers.

Last month, a Mississippi woman pleaded guilty to federal wire fraud for selling about $6 million worth of sexual enhancement products for men and women between 1998 and 2001. She was indicted for conspiring to sell the products with what the government called "reckless disregard as to the truth about the ability of the supplements" to do what was claimed. The plea agreement requires Angela Lane to spend three years in prison and pay $1.8 million in restitution. Her husband, Steven Lane, pleaded guilty last year to conspiracy to commit fraud and is awaiting sentencing.

Meanwhile, Berkeley faces a civil class-action lawsuit filed in Montgomery County, Ohio, in March 2004. The suit, which is pending, alleges that Enzyte failed to live up to advertised claims of a size increase within six weeks.

On March 16, local police joined four federal agencies - the U.S. Postal Inspection Service, FBI, IRS and Food and Drug Administration - in conducting a search of Berkeley's headquarters for evidence of fraudulent activity. No charges were filed, but the fact that the Postal Service took the lead suggests the government considers Berkeley's credit card-billing and refund practices as its main point of vulnerability.

full article

I believe the big issue here is false advertising rather than any of the herbals themselves being illegal.

warlock5 · 04-24-2005, 02:57 PM

Here are more articles about the recent stuff: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ne...nG=Search+News

04-23-2005, 03:02 PM	#1
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04-23-2005, 03:16 PM	#3
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04-23-2005, 03:43 PM	#5
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	Well other than a few links to galleries that promote them, I do not directly advertise any. But we are searching and deleting all links to any we can find now __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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04-23-2005, 03:14 PM	#2
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	So you link and promote what are most likely illegal pharma shops...ehhhhhhh (not trying to stir shit just honestly curious, didn't expected you to be in that "market")

04-23-2005, 03:46 PM	#6
frankfortuna Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,504	The issue is the sale and distribution of controlled substances, not all pharmaceuticals in general. If you're not promoting substances that are under DEA regulation with a pharmacy program that follows the rules, you are fine.

04-23-2005, 04:14 PM	#10
warlock5 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Uranus Posts: 2,808	I usually watch what Google Adword's is doing. I figure if they don't allow it then its best to stay away. They can afford to pay lawyers way more money than I can. As far as drugs of the prescription variety - "Websites advertising prescription drugs or using prescription drug keywords targeted to the U.S. must be SquareTrade certified. Ads will not run until a valid SquareTrade identification number is provided. SquareTrade membership is only available for online pharmacies based in the U.S. or Canada. Please review our FAQ for further details, or review Google's Online Pharmacy Qualification Program." Google doesn't allow gambling anymore either, so I'm not going to touch it. On the other hand they don't allow tobacco, but I run a cigar blog. Penis enlargement pills and all that herbal stuff? Google prohibits "miracle cures." Alternatively herbal stuff is advertised on television and Clear Channel radio stations. I'd be careful with that one but not necessarily avoid it altogether.

04-23-2005, 04:20 PM	#12
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	I get all my meds from my pharmacy with legal scripts. I love my shrink

04-23-2005, 04:31 PM	#17
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	I think banning even legal herbals is a bit extreme Choker, I mean one thing is banning people selling Valium, Viagra, Vicodin, a whole different thing is people selling Gilko Bilboa for example ;)

04-23-2005, 05:54 PM	#20
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	What about have a "green list" of reputable companys?

04-23-2005, 05:57 PM	#21
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	I have my pharmacies that I use online to get pretty much anything I want...A doctor calls me and verfies everything and I send him medical history and shit...pretty legit stuff I can get anything I want pretty much through them...anything at all

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BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	as long as there is demand, they will always be out there. i can't see as an affiliate how you could get into trouble but i can understand the concern. but banning herbal shit like penis pills is a bit too much in my opinion. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

04-24-2005, 02:57 PM	#43
warlock5 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Uranus Posts: 2,808	Here are more articles about the recent stuff: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ne...nG=Search+News