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Old 07-07-2005, 02:06 PM   #1
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To all the fucking idiots blaming Bush for the London attack. QUESTION:

This is a simple question for every one of you who says things like "If bush didn't go to war against Iraq, then this wouldn't have happened" and such bullshit...

What IF, one day, maybe next week, maybe next year, there will be a terrorist attack similar to today's one in a country that is not part of Bush's coalition?

What if there will be such attack in France, or in Canada for example.

Will you shut your mouth for good and admit that you were wrong?
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:09 PM   #2
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People like yourself who insist on remaining ignorant are the main reasons we're never going to be able to end the constant cycle of war and suffering.
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What "if" the world ends tomorrow? Can't live on on the IF, just the facts.. Fact is Canada has no reason to be attacked because they stay out of other peoples business.

Can't speak for France.. No idea wtf they are doing.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:11 PM   #4
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People like yourself who insist on remaining ignorant are the main reasons we're never going to be able to end the constant cycle of war and suffering.
answer the god damn question
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Ehm... I don't think anyone is blaming Bush for this? Nobody worth listening to, anyway.
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Yup... but that's big IF.

Canada is on the Al Qaida shit list already because we're such close trade allies with the States.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:13 PM   #7
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What "if" the world ends tomorrow? Can't live on on the IF, just the facts.. Fact is Canada has no reason to be attacked because they stay out of other peoples business.

Can't speak for France.. No idea wtf they are doing.
haha, that's pretty much what i was thinking...

If you go to war, prepare to be bombed... war works both ways.
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What "if" the world ends tomorrow? Can't live on on the IF, just the facts.. Fact is Canada has no reason to be attacked because they stay out of other peoples business.

Can't speak for France.. No idea wtf they are doing.
yeah?

I'll give you a reason why Canada could be attacked.

Canada permits gay marriage. you have any idea how this makes Al Qaeda mad? They see is as mocking allah and mohammed.

there you go... are you afraid now?
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haha, that's pretty much what i was thinking...

If you go to war, prepare to be bombed... war works both ways.
are you saying Iraq is responsible for today's attack?
or are you saying US shouldn't have gone to war in Afghanistan?
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:16 PM   #11
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maybe if our war on terror we attacked.... well um.. not the guy sittin on the worlds oil reserve, but... TERRORISTS.. then maybe this wouldnt have happened

no terrorists = no terrorists attacks. simple math if u ask me
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Fact is Canada has no reason to be attacked because they stay out of other peoples business.

Can't speak for France.. No idea wtf they are doing.
Dont you get it yet? They want you dead, they want your family dead, they want everyone you know dead. You are the enemy and they wont be happy until you are dead.

Is this clear enough yet? Thank fuck the U.S, Australia and the U.K have the guts to stand up to people who want them dead. It makes cowards like you and France sleep a little easier at night
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Yup... but that's big IF.

Canada is on the Al Qaida shit list already because we're such close trade allies with the States.
so in your opinion Canada should stop being trade allies with the US?

because if canada will be attacked, you will probably justify it, right?

US started war, Canada are US allies, therefore Canada deserves to be attacked, according to your logic.
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yeah?

I'll give you a reason why Canada could be attacked.

Canada permits gay marriage. you have any idea how this makes Al Qaeda mad? They see is as mocking allah and mohammed.

there you go... are you afraid now?
Allah and Mohammed were known for their extremely gaysexual behaviour. This included bestiality with camels and sheep at the edge of a cliff so in order that they would push back harder.
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Allah and Mohammed were known for their extremely gaysexual behaviour. This included bestiality with camels and sheep at the edge of a cliff so in order that they would push back harder.
tell it to the terorrists that are or will be planning an attack on Canada.

you get my point...
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These attacks are not Bush faults, per se.

The first responsible is the one carrying and detonating the bomb ... If you want to go further, then you can blame Blair, not Bush...

Blair decided to be the footstool to Bush .... of his own will against the feeling and desire of his constituants ...

But if I was Blair, I would be pissed at Bush, mainly after last week comments on Kyoto, G8, etc ... ( basically giving the to Blair ).

Canada is a very unlikely target ... because of our policy of" live and let live"....

France is at risk because of the " head scarf " issue , but not as much as Denmark, Italy, Netherlands ....
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France is at risk because of the " head scarf " issue
exactly, and I'm glad you brought that up.

so in your opinion it's ok for terorrists to dictate countries how they should live and act?

if France is attacked in a couple of months, will you say it is justified because of the head scarf issue?

france is at risk because of this, canada is at risk because of the gay marriage issue, other countries are at risk simply because they're christians and not muslims.
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This is a simple question for every one of you who says things like "If bush didn't go to war against Iraq, then this wouldn't have happened" and such bullshit...

What IF, one day, maybe next week, maybe next year, there will be a terrorist attack similar to today's one in a country that is not part of Bush's coalition?

What if there will be such attack in France, or in Canada for example.

Will you shut your mouth for good and admit that you were wrong?
Canada wouldn't be the best example since it supported and was involved in the invasion of Afghanistan.
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This is a simple question for every one of you who says things like "If bush didn't go to war against Iraq, then this wouldn't have happened" and such bullshit...

What IF, one day, maybe next week, maybe next year, there will be a terrorist attack similar to today's one in a country that is not part of Bush's coalition?

What if there will be such attack in France, or in Canada for example.

Will you shut your mouth for good and admit that you were wrong?
You know that if something does happen over there tomorrow the FBI will use this thread against you?
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exactly, and I'm glad you brought that up.

so in your opinion it's ok for terorrists to dictate countries how they should live and act?

if France is attacked in a couple of months, will you say it is justified because of the head scarf issue?

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No, I was just analysing the big picture ... and it is quite fucked up ...

I don't know if any of you ever tried to get rid of a Bee hive ???? You have one chance and must do it properly, otherwise you are going to get stinged ...
I wouldn't give that job to Bush and this is what happened
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He stirred the shit out of middle east and now it is hitting the fan ....

Let these people live like THEY want ... they want to stone people, so what ... To force women to wear burkhas .. so what ? Not our fucking business ... never was ...

I personally think that if an immigrant goes to an adoptive country, he should embrace the custom, language of his new country, but still kep his heritage to be practice in his own privacy ...
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well if you're conducting a war on terror it's inevitable that the enemy will fight back. The UK has known that it was a case of when, not if.
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I'm willing to take this risk...
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Canada wouldn't be the best example since it supported and was involved in the invasion of Afghanistan.
hahaha you see?

and any other country wouldn't be the best example because they don't teach Quran at public schools instead of math.
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Dont you get it yet? They want you dead, they want your family dead, they want everyone you know dead. You are the enemy and they wont be happy until you are dead.

Is this clear enough yet? Thank fuck the U.S, Australia and the U.K have the guts to stand up to people who want them dead. It makes cowards like you and France sleep a little easier at night

You have no idea.. They don't want me dead, they want my country to leave them the fuck alone. They have said that for years and years..

And for myself, I'm a Marine.. Far from a coward. This war isn't about terror it's about oil. How is Iraq and terror releated? Why did we have to bomb ALL of afgan, kill children, blow up schools, etc all to get one guy?

When they blow us up they are terrorists, what are we to them when we blow them up?
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well if you're conducting a war on terror it's inevitable that the enemy will fight back. The UK has known that it was a case of when, not if.
what if New Zealand gets attacked?

oh, that would be justified because it's near Australia, and Australia sent 3 soldiers to Iraq
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I'm a republican, so all I have to say is: 9/11, Terror & Saddam. Then nothing else seems to matter. BRB watching o'riely.
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hahaha you see?

and any other country wouldn't be the best example because they don't teach Quran at public schools instead of math.
There's a slight difference between not teaching the quran in public school and physically attacking an islamic nation. As crazy as islamic terrorists are, I don't think they consider them to be equal.
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If Bush was never born.....



... there would still be terrorism.


Who would get blamed then? Oh right I forgot.... blame Canada.
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There's a slight difference between not teaching the quran in public school and physically attacking an islamic nation. As crazy as islamic terrorists are, I don't think they consider them to be equal.
so your answer to my question is: "Yes, if that happens I will shut up and admit I was wrong", correct?
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You have no idea.. They don't want me dead, they want my country to leave them the fuck alone. They have said that for years and years..

And for myself, I'm a Marine.. Far from a coward. This war isn't about terror it's about oil. How is Iraq and terror releated? Why did we have to bomb ALL of afgan, kill children, blow up schools, etc all to get one guy?

When they blow us up they are terrorists, what are we to them when we blow them up?
Your wrong, they dont give a fuck about what you do or dont do, they dont come from Iraq, they dont live in Iraq, they couldnt give a flying fuck about Iraq. They are extremists, if you left Iraq tomorow, it would make no difference, they would still want you dead.

They believe you are their enemy, you can not bargain with them, you can not reason with them, they want you, your family, your country dead.

Listen to them, listen to the messages they send out, they do not think like us, they dont care about fellow muslims, arabs, they dont care about christians, blacks, whites, the want you and all your friends in the marines dead.
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I saw some video feed on CNN & Tony Blair was just sitting there looking like he got owned. But hey, thank god not everybody has something to prove. GW on the other hand would be strapping on his cowboy boots and getting ready for unjustified war on innocent people.
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Matter of fact is : There was no attacks on france or canada so far ...
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yeah?

I'll give you a reason why Canada could be attacked.

Canada permits gay marriage. you have any idea how this makes Al Qaeda mad? They see is as mocking allah and mohammed.

there you go... are you afraid now?
We'll talk about it when we get attacked. Stick to the facts ... Bush is partly responsbile for what happened.
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Matter of fact is : There was no attacks on france or canada so far ...
No offense, but Canada, in my opinion is just a space filler on the world's map. Who the fuck would ever want to attack Canada? They're too bland to even notice, nevermind attack.
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so your answer to my question is: "Yes, if that happens I will shut up and admit I was wrong", correct?
No, if Canada got attacked it would be understandable since it supported and was involved in the invasion of Afganistan.

My point was that you should use another country as an example that really didn't have anything to do with any middle east issues lately. Canada was not a good choice because it has been involved.
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Dont you get it yet? They want you dead, they want your family dead, they want everyone you know dead. You are the enemy and they wont be happy until you are dead.

Is this clear enough yet? Thank fuck the U.S, Australia and the U.K have the guts to stand up to people who want them dead. It makes cowards like you and France sleep a little easier at night
It wouldn't have happened in the first place if the US didn't stick their nose in other's people business (lebanon ... bin laden said he attacked the towers because the us made the towers fall in lebanon).
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Matter of fact is: There was no attacks on the U.K untill today. Where the G8 was being held
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oh, that would be justified because it's near Australia, and Australia sent 3 soldiers to Iraq
It's very unlikely but New Zealand going to war about it wouldn't make us any safer.
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You know why London was attacked? You haven't figured it out yet?

It's because some idiot kamikaze driven by an outrageous religion exploded himself to kill people whome he saw as his enemies. It could have happend anywhere. New York, London, the next could very well be Paris, France.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:54 PM   #43
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It wouldn't have happened in the first place if the US didn't stick their nose in other's people business (lebanon ... bin laden said he attacked the towers because the us made the towers fall in lebanon).
It would still have happened, fanatics dont respond to what you do, they make excuses to justify their actions.

You now quote Bin Laden like what a mass murderer says must be true because he says it? If Bin Laden who has killed Christians, muslims, hindus, athiests says something, it must be true right?
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:57 PM   #44
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You know why London was attacked? You haven't figured it out yet?

It's because some idiot kamikaze driven by an outrageous religion exploded himself to kill people whome he saw as his enemies. It could have happend anywhere. New York, London, the next could very well be Paris, France.
Exactly, plus the G8 was here, tommorow, welcome to Paris and Canada, by the way Paris was on high alert today. Which seems a bit odd when lots of you think they cant be attacked
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:59 PM   #45
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Old 07-07-2005, 03:01 PM   #46
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What if there will be such attack in France, or in Canada for example.

Will you shut your mouth for good and admit that you were wrong?

Hate breeds hate, is that too complex for you to understand?

That's what got us started on this road in the first place. Some VERY bad foreign policies, arrogance that it would never come back to bite us in the ass, and a continued idiotic mentality of 'bring it on' (only when it doesn't involve a real threat like China)


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Old 07-07-2005, 03:01 PM   #47
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[QUOTE=Johny Traffic]Your wrong, they dont give a fuck about what you do or dont do, they dont come from Iraq, they dont live in Iraq, they couldnt give a flying fuck about Iraq. They are extremists, if you left Iraq tomorow, it would make no difference, they would still want you dead.

They believe you are their enemy, you can not bargain with them, you can not reason with them, they want you, your family, your country dead.

Listen to them, listen to the messages they send out, they do not think like us, they dont care about fellow muslims, arabs, they dont care about christians, blacks, whites, the want you and all your friends in the marines dead.[/QUOTE

Exactly the same as Bush and his religious biggots ....]
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Old 07-07-2005, 03:09 PM   #48
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People like yourself who insist on remaining ignorant are the main reasons we're never going to be able to end the constant cycle of war and suffering.
Man alive, that's cherry.

I've maybe smoked too much, but I am somewhat positive the 'cycle of war' is older than the US.

Two of the major contributing factors of war:
- Religion (mainly 'Christianity') and other cultish beliefs (the true sponsors of ignorance)
- Greed / power (in the words of the all knowing Brian: "money, money, money, mah-nah ... MAH NAH")
? and of course:
- The fear of change (whether or not the change is better)
- The fact that we are not equal.


When all is said and done and flesh-baggies (humans) have been wiped from this rock, war will remain! It is part of life (think yin-yang), whether or not we like it. (Utopia is not possible, unless you are prepared to give-up what sets you apart from the rest. We must all be truly equal in order for a utopian society to work.)

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Old 07-07-2005, 03:12 PM   #49
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Your wrong, they dont give a fuck about what you do or dont do, they dont come from Iraq, they dont live in Iraq, they couldnt give a flying fuck about Iraq. They are extremists, if you left Iraq tomorow, it would make no difference, they would still want you dead.

They believe you are their enemy, you can not bargain with them, you can not reason with them, they want you, your family, your country dead.

Listen to them, listen to the messages they send out, they do not think like us, they dont care about fellow muslims, arabs, they dont care about christians, blacks, whites, the want you and all your friends in the marines dead.
Wow, the gov really has you tricked.. Can't talk with someone that has no clue, just not worth my time. You may want to quit watching the news so much and start learning about history of those nations.
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