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Old 02-03-2002, 01:34 PM   #1
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passwordforum.com - Stealing YOUR Passes?

I'm surprised to find there isn't more talk about password thieves here.

The guys at www.passwordforum.com are stealing passes to most of the sites discussed here and then charging for access to the passes via paypal.

The IP of the site is 64.38.245.18 , which according to Arin is a Cavecreek IP. Doesn't Cavecreek run CCBill? What is up with this.

Enquiring minds want to know.

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Old 02-03-2002, 01:42 PM   #2
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VERY interesting...

Btw, "There are currently 175 members and 149 guests on the boards." Holy fuck!
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Old 02-03-2002, 01:42 PM   #3
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Ouch. Congrats CCBill.
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Old 02-03-2002, 01:51 PM   #4
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Ya just never know who's behind sites... I check the site today is a directbox search engine?
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Old 02-03-2002, 01:54 PM   #5
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Just clicked on the URL. Looks like the site was taken down.
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Old 02-03-2002, 01:55 PM   #6
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I do not get anything but a search site right now

hmmm...

will see where that IP is going

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Old 02-03-2002, 01:58 PM   #7
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fuckers changed my hompage to directseek.com
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Old 02-03-2002, 02:02 PM   #8
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Just clicked on the URL. Looks like the site was taken down.
Nope... he made a typo. Nothing was taken down...

The URL is www.passwordforum.com as in the topic title.
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Old 02-03-2002, 02:25 PM   #9
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get this they deleted 15,000 accounts for not posting or voting ie freeloading - now aint that the pot calling the kettle black
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Old 02-03-2002, 02:31 PM   #10
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I've seen this page before. Its surprising what they get away with. They even have a section on there that teaches you how to hack into password sites. for the $ people pay to get a gold account there or whatever, isnt it much better to just actually pay for the sites?
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Here's the trace:

traceroute to passwordforum.com (64.38.245.18), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 main1-main2-eth.sjc1.above.net (207.126.96.189) 0.479 ms 0.500 ms 0.435 ms
2 core1-main1-oc12.sjc1.above.net (208.185.175.245) 0.507 ms 0.596 ms 0.895 ms
3 core2-sjc1-oc48.sjc2.above.net (208.184.102.26) 0.536 ms 0.580 ms 0.493 ms
4 core6-core2-oc48.sjc2.above.net (208.185.156.70) 0.600 ms 0.585 ms 0.505 ms
5 level3-above.sjc2.above.net (208.184.232.162) 1.324 ms 1.825 ms 1.310 ms
6 ae0-51.mp1.SanJose1.Level3.net (64.159.2.1) 1.834 ms 1.817 ms 1.843 ms
7 so-2-0-0.mp1.Phoenix1.Level3.net (64.159.0.237) 18.480 ms 18.477 ms 18.476 ms
8 gigabitethernet10-0.hsipaccess1.Phoenix1.Level3.net (64.159.3.102) 18.606 ms 18.668 ms 18.629 ms
9 bgp-cwie-cust.level3.net (63.214.160.130) 18.807 ms 18.900 ms 18.703 ms
10 64.38.245.18 (64.38.245.18) 19.013 ms 18.854 ms 18.757 ms

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Old 02-03-2002, 03:12 PM   #12
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I never understood it. These big companies are always trying to stop child porn but they do nothing about sites that let kids see porn. I dont see much of a difference as far as morality is concerned.

Child Porn = Bad
Showing Porn To A Child = Nobody Cares

Big players promote those fucking sites.
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Old 02-03-2002, 03:25 PM   #13
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They are affilliated & supported by these sites..

http://www.tanyasmegasite.com/
http://www.iseekpasswords.com/
http://www.xxx-passwordz.com/
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let's see so far I've been in

bangbus
whitehouse.com
blacksonblondes
some teen site I don't remember


not using a proxy so maybe the passwd will die

I don't run a paysite but this shit pisses me off

If I did run one I would be talking to my attorney
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Old 02-03-2002, 03:43 PM   #15
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They are affilliated & supported by these sites..

http://www.tanyasmegasite.com/
http://www.iseekpasswords.com/
http://www.xxx-passwordz.com/

all 3 of them are fake password sites and bring more money than you imagine. I have seen the sponsor stats from 1 fake password site and brings to his webmaster close to $30k/month.
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Old 02-03-2002, 03:43 PM   #16
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let's see so far I've been in

bangbus
whitehouse.com
blacksonblondes
some teen site I don't remember


not using a proxy so maybe the passwd will die

I don't run a paysite but this shit pisses me off

If I did run one I would be talking to my attorney

Hey Redshift..
Lets wreak some Havoc...
I just joined silver just to fuck with them..lol
my nic is APIC ..lol

Lets fuck with the board..
what's your nic..?
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Old 02-03-2002, 03:54 PM   #17
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:mad

Those three other sites that they are affiliated with
http://www.tanyasmegasite.com/
http://www.iseekpasswords.com/
http://www.xxx-passwordz.com/

are also hosted at Cavecreek.

I just sent Cavecreek an email expressing my concern with this. Basically I said that as a long itme customer of their I don't think that it in their best interest or the interest of their customers to assist in password theft. Especially since some of the site posted on these boards are CCBill/Cwie accounts.
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Old 02-03-2002, 04:02 PM   #18
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yeah thats bullshit, its definetly illegal now that he is charging for people to login to stolen or hacked accounts..... he wont last... I remember this exact site, I forget the domain name, but it was taken down by the big boys, cybererotica maybee
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Old 02-03-2002, 04:04 PM   #19
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Hehe..
They're onto me...
I got my ip banned there already..lol

He musta read this post..lol
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Old 02-03-2002, 04:06 PM   #20
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Hehe..
They're onto me...
I got my ip banned there already..lol

He musta read this post..lol

I have an idea...
Let's set up a form like petition that we can all fill out & submit to cavecreek stating that if they do not shut those sites down, that we will boycott their service...

LOL..

Pus some pressure on the host to close them down..

Report them to APIC too...
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Good idea!

Go get your job at Burger King back before some 16 year old takes it.


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I have an idea...
Let's set up a form like petition that we can all fill out & submit to cavecreek stating that if they do not shut those sites down, that we will boycott their service...

LOL..

Pus some pressure on the host to close them down..

Report them to APIC too...
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Good idea!

Go get your job at Burger King back before some 16 year old takes it.



What the fuck's your problem!??!!

What're you on their side asswipe? Maybe you are the webmaster.. Hmm?
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Old 02-03-2002, 04:26 PM   #23
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On their side?

You concern yourself with everyone's business, how does that site affect you?

There are thousands of them out there, you think your words will get across to anyone?

You are a nobody boy.

First get a life, and then get http://www.monster-submit.com/sentry/
and shut the fuck up already.





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What the fuck's your problem!??!!

What're you on their side asswipe? Maybe you are the webmaster.. Hmm?
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On their side?

You concern yourself with everyone's business, how does that site affect you?

There are thousands of them out there, you think your words will get across to anyone?

You are a nobody boy.

First get a life, and then get http://www.monster-submit.com/sentry/
and shut the fuck up already.





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What is your major malfunction fucknuts...
How does it affect me??

Very fucking simple...
The same as the affects on pretty much all of us..
We are in this business to SELL memberships to the sites hacked by members of that forum.

Now, when those same sites can be accessed for free because of some forum, this puts a dent in our wallets. That site has a HUGE # of daily visitors & members & this can be damaging to our sales, & it also hurts the membership sites member retention ratio..

Who the fuck are you to make a fucking personal attack on me for no fucking reason you piece of shit.. what have I done to you!!
It is YOU that is the nobody boy.. Get your fucking head out of your ass!!

You had no right to start shit.. have I ever said anything negative or derogatory to you.. NO..so why you starting shit with me asshole..

It appears that you take personal offense to what I suggested..
There's a reason for that...

I wonder what it is?? Hmm..
why you jump on my ass,, I didnt start this topic...
Other members of gfy have expressed opinions & replied, etc..
but did you go tell them, "its none of your fucking business, shut the fuck up!! "

Go fuck yourself & while your at it, ask your mother if she liked the bukake last night..
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I didn't even bother reading this, maybe later I will.

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Make me a banner?
How do I?
Where do I?
When do I?
Where is it?
Have you ever?
Can you please?
Oh please help me?

Oh please register my domain name, my wife left me, and took the kids and credit card, I don't have money for beer or hosting or cigarettes, and my credit sucks. I'll give you a banner ad on my Website, which barks, and gets 1 visitor a day.
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Sounds like the best part of you dripped down your father's leg, and your grandmother forgot to lick it up.




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What is your major malfunction fucknuts...
How does it affect me??

Very fucking simple...
The same as the affects on pretty much all of us..
We are in this business to SELL memberships to the sites hacked by members of that forum.

Now, when those same sites can be accessed for free because of some forum, this puts a dent in our wallets. That site has a HUGE # of daily visitors & members & this can be damaging to our sales, & it also hurts the membership sites member retention ratio..

Who the fuck are you to make a fucking personal attack on me for no fucking reason you piece of shit.. what have I done to you!!
It is YOU that is the nobody boy.. Get your fucking head out of your ass!!

You had no right to start shit.. have I ever said anything negative or derogatory to you.. NO..so why you starting shit with me asshole..

It appears that you take personal offense to what I suggested..
There's a reason for that...

I wonder what it is?? Hmm..
why you jump on my ass,, I didnt start this topic...
Other members of gfy have expressed opinions & replied, etc..
but did you go tell them, "its none of your fucking business, shut the fuck up!! "

Go fuck yourself & while your at it, ask your mother if she liked the bukake last night..
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Barry Porn
[B]On their side?

You concern yourself with everyone's business, how does that site affect you?

How did I find it? Checking the referrer logs on the park I manage after we were DOS brute force hammered by these jerks for 20 hours. And this is not my business?

It's one thing to maybe hack a few passes and share with your LEET pals...But selling them on a Cavecreek hosted site is well...
a felony actually.
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Old 02-03-2002, 05:58 PM   #27
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password trading has been going on for years, and years.

this is nothing new, these sites come and go.

i would suggest protecting your paysites better to avoid this type of shit.
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Password sites make that much money? I think I know what sites quiet runs now.
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Gee Barry Porn...
That's old news..lol, hmm what, 4 months ago,,lol...

Now I know why you have such an interest in sex toy stores...
cuz you like that BIG fucking dildo up you ass!!

go build a fucking site.. you're not even a fucking webmaster, so piss off sod !!
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password trading has been going on for years, and years.

this is nothing new, these sites come and go.

i would suggest protecting your paysites better to avoid this type of shit.
AMEN, not that I think the shit is right in the first place but Rollin has a very valid point.
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Password sites make that much money? I think I know what sites quiet runs now.
Nope..
I think Barry Porn runs it...
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Nope..
I think Barry Porn runs it...
I was joking Spaceguy.

Defending your position is one thing and I respect it from both sides but you are just provoking him now.
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I was joking Spaceguy.

I think he & everyone else knows I was joking too..
Of course he really don't run it...
the guy that runs it is from Denver.. Barry's from New Jersey if I recall right?
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password trading has been going on for years, and years.

this is nothing new, these sites come and go.

i would suggest protecting your paysites better to avoid this type of shit.
Granted you are right and most experienced paysite owners do take the neccessary steps to protect themselves.

The issue here early in these posts though was the fact that the sites in question are hosted by the same company that is one of the largest billing companies in this business. For webmasters like myself that have done 100's of thousands of dollars in business with them we look at this as being a very serious.

I went to passwordforum.com and a number of the sites listed on there are CWIE/CCBill customers. To have the company that does your hosting and/or billing in essence provide a forum for this activity is wrong and should not be permitted by them.

I have already received a reply to my email that I sent to them, they have told me that "(they will) look into legal/contractual issues and what our course of action to take"

I have been doing business with CWIE/CCBill for over 3 years and I know from my past history with the company that they will address this matter. I expect that I will hear back from them again tommorrow when the upper managment staff will be there.

Now I am sure that there are plenty of other hosts which take their business and I know that there are 100's of other password sites out here, but as site owners we do what we can nto only to protect our sites security, but also to make it tougher for the hackers to conduct business out here.

Remember folks this is a business and a lucrative one for many of us. When you conduct yourself in a professional manner you get the results you want.
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Yea I run the site.

What did you miss pre-school?

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Nope..
I think Barry Porn runs it...
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New Jersey?

I live next door to you. Look out of your window, that's me.


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Spacedog.

84 Riverside Drive
Wells, ME 04090

What else?

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I live next door to you. Look out of your window, that's me.


Um, that is an old lady who is walking her dog. Am I looking out the right window?
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Hey FUCKNUT BARRY!!

You have no fucking right posting my personal information on a public forum you asshole!!!!
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Chill out man. It is a public forum and that is public information. I would not be amused if it was me either but it is not THAT big of a deal since everybody here knows how to access that info.
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Most of the members of this forum..Most..
what about lurkers..hmm
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Didn't you post that information yourself at one time? I could be wrong, so don't get all defensive if you didn't, I'm just wondering.
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Didn't you post that information yourself at one time? I could be wrong, so don't get all defensive if you didn't, I'm just wondering.
No, he did a whois on a domain..
but he still shouldnt post it here..
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Old 02-03-2002, 08:07 PM   #45
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There is a good possibility that maybe he does run the site..
Unless its a coincidence..
But, immediately after I posted that I joined their forum to check it out, my ip was banned..
coincidence that this happened at the same exact time that Barry made his first post on this thread..
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Old 02-03-2002, 08:17 PM   #46
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hmm...
Look you fuckers. I RUN THE DAMN PASSWORD SITE!

quiet is really Boneprone and Spacedog is really Lensman.

Any other questions?
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Old 02-03-2002, 08:20 PM   #47
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Look you fuckers. I RUN THE DAMN PASSWORD SITE!

quiet is really Boneprone and Spacedog is really Lensman.

Any other questions?

this is the most fucked up website I ever seen !
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Old 02-03-2002, 09:20 PM   #48
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I used to get nailed by ultrapasswords.com all the time. So I called his host. Ended up bullshiting on the phone with him for 2 hours I'd say.

He told me about the webmaster, some 20 year old dude in college, (i have it all in my notes) AnyThey have been sued by perfect 10 (i think). Dudes making the Bling Bling. Ended up paying only like 10g and running their banner for a tear so the story goes.

Now get this:
Ultrapasswords script suposedly runs on auto scanning all the password sites, forums, etc.....Collecting the user/passes and updating his list all automatically.

Now still I am bullshiting with this guy and he tells me I should be happy for getting all the traffic. After thinking about it for a while he was right. If you have the correct software in place this is nothing but traffic. I know webmasters that even post passes on trading sites to get the traffic.

These sites probably build decent bookmark traffic so I'm sure you tgp pimps can convert it. It's pretty decent amounts of traffic too.

Also another note:
CCBill sites get hit harder that Ibills from what I have seen. I think this has to do with the fact that the surfer can pick his own username and password.

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Old 02-03-2002, 09:35 PM   #49
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Membership Costs : 1 Months Access $25, 3 Months Access $65, 6 Months Access $125
access the best. $25 will save you $1000 on the cost of memberships and you get value for money

Well, whoever runs this site, fake or not .... I thought that was pretty funny ...

Along with this statement:

"Sorry. We are not taking on new members for the next couple of months due to the amount of members that we have. The forum has over 85,271 active members and we do have to limit this.

HOWEVER ... If you are interested in being a gold member, you can email me ...

(Membership prices have been raised but if you are a previous member and keep your membership active you keep the same price.)

Please send me a email or PM to [email protected] or PM to "admin" I really need you to make sure you use the following info in the message!

1/ Your forum username.
2/ Your amount of time you want to be a member i.e 1 Months Access $25 USD
3/ Your email address. <br> <br> Then what you ask? we then send you a request via (paypal) for the money.

Once we get the dosh we upgrade your forum account.

Most of the time you will get access within 30 minutes.. Thats if you see me on the forum othertimes takes a few hours.. BUT ITS WORTH IT!"

_____________________________________

BTW ... a "Lifetime" membership is $200 ...

LMAO ...
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Old 02-03-2002, 09:40 PM   #50
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BV is right...
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