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Old 09-13-2010, 06:53 AM   #1
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Industry Petition for PayPal to accept adult for b2b (and possible b2c too)

Feasible? They need to hear us and realize how much they can make from adult, both from a B2B and B2C angle

I was thinking something along the lines of they can do a high hold back and we pay them an annual fee of $5-10k or so for the privilege.

On another angle - aren't they discriminating? GFY lawyers can comment on that

Ok I'll go back to dreaming now
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Old 09-13-2010, 06:56 AM   #2
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Many adult B2B services do already use paypal.

I imagine that if I applied and asked Paypal Quality Control to look at my site linkspun (adult b2b) that I would get approved and be able to add Pay It Now buttons.
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Old 09-13-2010, 07:03 AM   #3
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Old 09-13-2010, 07:05 AM   #4
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Old 09-13-2010, 07:10 AM   #5
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i dont think paypal needs adult though right now adult could really use some paypal
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Both JuicyAds and Plugrush uses Gaypal, no problems there.
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Old 09-13-2010, 07:19 AM   #7
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Old 09-13-2010, 07:22 AM   #8
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B2C never gunna happen. B2B see above, already used. Just cant by content through it I believe. Design, links, writing services, domains, hosting, advertising... not a problem.
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Old 09-13-2010, 07:23 AM   #9
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paypal could give a shit about adult. Wont happen
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Old 09-13-2010, 07:28 AM   #10
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they are not stupid. once you allow adult the scammers will come, and all kinds of shady biz..they sure dont want to end u like epass..it is jsut not worht it for them...

but with little inventiveness some adult companies are already paying via paypal..
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Old 09-13-2010, 07:32 AM   #11
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this coming from someone who doesn't even payout his advertisers lol
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Old 09-13-2010, 07:38 AM   #12
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i dont think paypal needs adult though right now adult could really use some paypal
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Old 09-13-2010, 07:42 AM   #13
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i use paypal all the time - just use clean email addresses and do not put "Payment for cumonmyass.com" in the subject line
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Old 09-13-2010, 07:46 AM   #14
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Ha, hell will freeze over first!!! The only thing Paypal ever innovated was it's initial concept and ever since then it's been king of the hill and hasn't done shit. They are sooo afraid of legal issus they wouldn't touch this with a ten-foot pole (no, that's not a porn refrence, lol). Actually, on a serious note I have a client who sells e-cigarettes and Paypal intantly turned them down because of legal issues that industry is facing.

I somewhat undestand Paypal's decision though, the revenue stream might be huge but they (a) don't want to sully their name by going to the "porn underworld" and (b) don't want to get sued. They are a large corporation built on automation, hence are unwilling to add extra overhead to review sites more closely.
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Old 09-13-2010, 07:49 AM   #16
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I phoned paypal a while back asking if i can take money for scripts targetted to the adult industry, and they had no problem wiht it.
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B2b is b2b its not adut, selling memberships is adult
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Old 09-13-2010, 09:13 AM   #18
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Old 09-13-2010, 10:06 AM   #20
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And you joined in 03? I don't get it.
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they knew all along from the beginning how much they gonna loose by disabling adult transactions long ago, they are not idiots
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they knew all along from the beginning how much they gonna loose by disabling adult transactions long ago, they are not idiots
not really when you look at all the transactions done on line. Adult is a very small fraction of that and a very high maintenance one at that.
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additionally PP is not suitable for receiving payments in many countries unlike Epass has been doing with Visa cards
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Old 09-13-2010, 10:15 AM   #24
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not really when you look at all the transactions done on line. Adult is a very small fraction of that and a very high maintenance one at that.
it may not been a very significant stream but i'm sure they had an idea how much roughly they were shutting down by disabling adult, i'm pretty sure it was decision based on sacrifice being able to normally function on US territory get licences and follow all financial regulations. they didn't shut it down simply based on morals or anything like that in my opinion
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Adult is a very tiny drop in the bucket to Paypal, it would be a waste of time to try to convince them to take adult. They won't, period.
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PP used to process for adult, hell they even attended mant of the first Internext shows. They learned all about the problems, cheaters, fraud..tec... and decided it was just not worth the hassels.
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Feasible? They need to hear us and realize how much they can make from adult, both from a B2B and B2C angle

I was thinking something along the lines of they can do a high hold back and we pay them an annual fee of $5-10k or so for the privilege.

On another angle - aren't they discriminating? GFY lawyers can comment on that

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They scouted our industry for 2 years at conferences and signed business up - lots of years ago. As soon as they went live servicing adult, their shareholders put an immediate end to it. Perhaps in a 2010 economy it wouldn't be an issue - after all, Visa had their IPO right?

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Paypal is not a bank. How hard would it be to setup an adult version.

1. Surfer deposits money from his "adult" paypal account - Not VISA or credit card system.
2. Surfer buyers membership with account details
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I think paypal just doesnt like processing payments for porn surfers - Too many chargebacks.

If you have an adult site that is b2b i believe they will accept it.

They just dont want to process 1000's of porn memberships becuase of the high chargeback rate..
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