AOL to charge to send email spam - GoFuckYourself.com

Rochard · 03-01-2006, 09:37 AM

The Internet has changed over night. SPAM is considered bad, evil, and now mostly illegal while the US Post Office continues to make a huge profit off of junk mail sent directly to our houses. AOL, one of the largest ISPs, finally got their heads out of their asses and discovered that they can make a profit off of spam email by charging spammers to send it.

And I'll bet my next paycheck that other ISPs will follow shortly.

Here's the article from Yahoo news.....

SAN JOSE, Calif. - America Online is vowing to carry out its plans to institute fees for mass senders of e-mail, despite protests from groups representing 15 million people that claim the move will stifle communications instead of merely halting spam.

Political group MoveOn.org Civic Action, the AFL-CIO labor union and other organizations have criticized the service, which will charge senders a fee to route their messages directly to AOL users' mailboxes without first passing through AOL junk mail filters.

AOL, a unit of Time Warner Inc., contends the system will help it reduce spam because only legitimate senders of mass e-mail are likely to pony up the fee ? ranging from 1/4 cent to 1 cent per message. But critics say the system will end up blocking many e-mails from groups that can't afford the fee.

AOL said it was undeterred and planned to offer the service within the next 30 days.

"Mark it on your calendars," AOL spokesman Nicholas Graham said.

The controversy is erupting as Internet users try to balance the convenience and speed of e-mail with the ease in which it can be abused by junk mailers and "phishers," criminals who forge messages in an attempt to get sensitive information from unwitting recipients.

Some analysts said that AOL subscribers' disdain for spam and fraud is likely to outweigh whatever sympathy they would have for those criticizing AOL's plans.

"Right now e-mail providers do a lousy job of keeping unwanted content from users," said Eric Goldman, a law professor at Marquette University and the former general counsel of Epinions.com. "Users will be thrilled to see a lot of junk taken out of their inboxes, even at the expense of legitimate messages."

Eli Pariser, MoveOn's executive director, said paying a fee to AOL could add significant costs to the weekly dispatch his group sends, "hundreds of thousands" of which go to AOL subscribers. During a teleconference with reporters Tuesday, he stopped short of calling for a boycott of AOL, but said such a move remains a possibility.

Larry Pratt, executive director of the Gun Owners of America, another critic, said his "several thousand members" were prepared to boycott if AOL "pulls the trigger" on the service.

The effectiveness of the campaign against the new service will depend on how AOL subscribers react to it and exactly how it works, analysts said.

"If they (system filters) start interfering with the delivery of legitimate mail, I don't think AOL subscribers are going to tolerate it," said David Sorkin of the Center for Information Technology and Privacy Law at John Marshall Law School in Chicago.

He discounted the likelihood of legal action against AOL. Courts have ruled that an e-mail provider is not a government body and therefore can't be sued for violating First Amendment rights of free speech.

Tanker · 03-01-2006, 09:42 AM

holy shit

thats gonna be some big money

KRosh · 03-01-2006, 10:08 AM

Man this is what we wished for 3 or 4 years ago.

Time to dig up the old AOL addresses ..lol

Theo · 03-01-2006, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRosh

Man this is what we wished for 3 or 4 years ago.

Time to dig up the old AOL addresses ..lol

yeah,well forget it because they seek $35-60k/million emails sent

Rochard · 03-01-2006, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

yeah,well forget it because they seek $35-60k/million emails sent

Tradiationally our industry has had a nearly zero entry barrier - anyone could get in and with some cheap mailing software could make millions. The gold rush days are over. Be realistic - The Post Office charges money to send out junk mail, now the ISPs will start sending SPAM.

And it will be perfectly legal.

Mugshot · 03-01-2006, 10:17 AM

I suppose they will have to stop advertising then that THEY STOP SPAM

budz · 03-01-2006, 10:22 AM

lol NEWSFLASH

:p

jjjay · 03-01-2006, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RocHard

The Internet has changed over night. SPAM is considered bad, evil, and now mostly illegal while the US Post Office continues to make a huge profit off of junk mail sent directly to our houses. AOL, one of the largest ISPs, finally got their heads out of their asses and discovered that they can make a profit off of spam email by charging spammers to send it.

And I'll bet my next paycheck that other ISPs will follow shortly.

Here's the article from Yahoo news.....

SAN JOSE, Calif. - America Online is vowing to carry out its plans to institute fees for mass senders of e-mail, despite protests from groups representing 15 million people that claim the move will stifle communications instead of merely halting spam.

Political group MoveOn.org Civic Action, the AFL-CIO labor union and other organizations have criticized the service, which will charge senders a fee to route their messages directly to AOL users' mailboxes without first passing through AOL junk mail filters.

AOL, a unit of Time Warner Inc., contends the system will help it reduce spam because only legitimate senders of mass e-mail are likely to pony up the fee ? ranging from 1/4 cent to 1 cent per message. But critics say the system will end up blocking many e-mails from groups that can't afford the fee.

AOL said it was undeterred and planned to offer the service within the next 30 days.

"Mark it on your calendars," AOL spokesman Nicholas Graham said.

The controversy is erupting as Internet users try to balance the convenience and speed of e-mail with the ease in which it can be abused by junk mailers and "phishers," criminals who forge messages in an attempt to get sensitive information from unwitting recipients.

Some analysts said that AOL subscribers' disdain for spam and fraud is likely to outweigh whatever sympathy they would have for those criticizing AOL's plans.

"Right now e-mail providers do a lousy job of keeping unwanted content from users," said Eric Goldman, a law professor at Marquette University and the former general counsel of Epinions.com. "Users will be thrilled to see a lot of junk taken out of their inboxes, even at the expense of legitimate messages."

Eli Pariser, MoveOn's executive director, said paying a fee to AOL could add significant costs to the weekly dispatch his group sends, "hundreds of thousands" of which go to AOL subscribers. During a teleconference with reporters Tuesday, he stopped short of calling for a boycott of AOL, but said such a move remains a possibility.

Larry Pratt, executive director of the Gun Owners of America, another critic, said his "several thousand members" were prepared to boycott if AOL "pulls the trigger" on the service.

The effectiveness of the campaign against the new service will depend on how AOL subscribers react to it and exactly how it works, analysts said.

"If they (system filters) start interfering with the delivery of legitimate mail, I don't think AOL subscribers are going to tolerate it," said David Sorkin of the Center for Information Technology and Privacy Law at John Marshall Law School in Chicago.

He discounted the likelihood of legal action against AOL. Courts have ruled that an e-mail provider is not a government body and therefore can't be sued for violating First Amendment rights of free speech.

One - this news is around two weeks old

Two - nothing is final yet

Three - some heavy hitters are already fighting against it

crockett · 03-01-2006, 10:31 AM

AOL is always been the biggest spammer on the net.. First they send out millions of CD's as junk mail.. Then the dumb asses that sign up, as soon as they log in, get spammed with shit offers from AOL advertisers.

With that said, if you could pay to spam AOL's e-mail lists, I'm quite sure it would probably be worth the money..

Juilan · 03-01-2006, 10:43 AM

Yep the snail mail direct mailing campaigns in the 80's kicked it off and AOL was right there shooting spam.

Dildozer · 03-01-2006, 10:54 AM

Good, I will gladly pay the fee, my customers won't have as much spam in their inbox and it'll be easier to reach them.

Phoenix · 03-01-2006, 11:04 AM

maybe they can get the damn pizza flyers out of my mailbox as well

Rochard · 03-01-2006, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

AOL is always been the biggest spammer on the net.. First they send out millions of CD's as junk mail.. Then the dumb asses that sign up, as soon as they log in, get spammed with shit offers from AOL advertisers.

With that said, if you could pay to spam AOL's e-mail lists, I'm quite sure it would probably be worth the money..

Ironic, isn't it?

Furious_Female · 03-01-2006, 11:15 AM

Will they be selling an updated database to send to as well?

03-01-2006, 09:37 AM	#1
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 73,924	AOL to charge to send email spam The Internet has changed over night. SPAM is considered bad, evil, and now mostly illegal while the US Post Office continues to make a huge profit off of junk mail sent directly to our houses. AOL, one of the largest ISPs, finally got their heads out of their asses and discovered that they can make a profit off of spam email by charging spammers to send it. And I'll bet my next paycheck that other ISPs will follow shortly. Here's the article from Yahoo news..... SAN JOSE, Calif. - America Online is vowing to carry out its plans to institute fees for mass senders of e-mail, despite protests from groups representing 15 million people that claim the move will stifle communications instead of merely halting spam. Political group MoveOn.org Civic Action, the AFL-CIO labor union and other organizations have criticized the service, which will charge senders a fee to route their messages directly to AOL users' mailboxes without first passing through AOL junk mail filters. AOL, a unit of Time Warner Inc., contends the system will help it reduce spam because only legitimate senders of mass e-mail are likely to pony up the fee ? ranging from 1/4 cent to 1 cent per message. But critics say the system will end up blocking many e-mails from groups that can't afford the fee. AOL said it was undeterred and planned to offer the service within the next 30 days. "Mark it on your calendars," AOL spokesman Nicholas Graham said. The controversy is erupting as Internet users try to balance the convenience and speed of e-mail with the ease in which it can be abused by junk mailers and "phishers," criminals who forge messages in an attempt to get sensitive information from unwitting recipients. Some analysts said that AOL subscribers' disdain for spam and fraud is likely to outweigh whatever sympathy they would have for those criticizing AOL's plans. "Right now e-mail providers do a lousy job of keeping unwanted content from users," said Eric Goldman, a law professor at Marquette University and the former general counsel of Epinions.com. "Users will be thrilled to see a lot of junk taken out of their inboxes, even at the expense of legitimate messages." Eli Pariser, MoveOn's executive director, said paying a fee to AOL could add significant costs to the weekly dispatch his group sends, "hundreds of thousands" of which go to AOL subscribers. During a teleconference with reporters Tuesday, he stopped short of calling for a boycott of AOL, but said such a move remains a possibility. Larry Pratt, executive director of the Gun Owners of America, another critic, said his "several thousand members" were prepared to boycott if AOL "pulls the trigger" on the service. The effectiveness of the campaign against the new service will depend on how AOL subscribers react to it and exactly how it works, analysts said. "If they (system filters) start interfering with the delivery of legitimate mail, I don't think AOL subscribers are going to tolerate it," said David Sorkin of the Center for Information Technology and Privacy Law at John Marshall Law School in Chicago. He discounted the likelihood of legal action against AOL. Courts have ruled that an e-mail provider is not a government body and therefore can't be sued for violating First Amendment rights of free speech. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

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