SEO services

[DaddyHalbucks]

So who here is good with SEO?

Who is for real?

[facialfreak]

Hey guys .... I see ALOT of people (not just here, but on ALL boards) that have alot of misinformation about SEO strategies, or else have no clue what they should be doing to develop their SEO strategies ...

I AM NOT AN SEO SPECIALIST FOR HIRE ... I AM NOT GOING TO OPTIMIZE YOUR SITES FOR A FEE ...

What I am going to do is share my expertise ONE-ON-ONE (I'll even phone you anywhere in Canada or the US if you like ...) with anybody interested for $20.00 per hour. I am available for as little as one hour, or as many as you want. I will give you the most sound, up-to-date advice I can, and will help you to understand what it is going to take to rank well in the Google, Yahoo, and MSN.

I AM MAKING NO FALSE CLAIMS OF #1 POSITIONS, AND I WILL NOT GUARANTEE YOU A TOP 30 POSITION EITHER!! (this seems to be a very common position I see SEOs for hire offering lately ...)

THERE ARE NO ABSOLUTES IN SEO ... there is NOTHING that you can do that is going to GUARANTEE YOU ANY CERTAIN RANK!!

The best shot at effective SEO you have, is understanding what is going to give you the best chances at getting high SERPs (Search Engine Results Pages).

Effective SEO is not rocket science, nor is it even overly hard ... Quite frankly, I am shocked that there are not more people doing their own SEO!!

Now a little bit of background on me ... I have been doing SEO for myself for over 3.5 years ... I have seen all kinds of changes in what works, and what DOES NOT WORK! I have survived many 'bad' google updates, such as 'Brandi' and 'Jagger' with minimal casualties. I make approximately 75-80% of my income with mainstream SEO and own several #1 listings for popular 2-3 word keyword phrases, which bring me possibly more traffic than having half as many single word keywords ...

I will not show any of my SE results in a public forum for obvious reasons, but I will upon request.

EVERYTHING I PREACH IS 100% WHITEHAT SEO! I WILL NOT TEACH BLACKHAT SEO STRATEGIES, SO DO NOT ASK ME!!

I am one of 3 captains for the BETA BRIGADE webmaster training school. I am not a shit-talker!

If you want the straight goods on basic site SEO, you can contact me via Skype (webpaintdesign) or ICQ (306088434) or even PM me here.

Facialfreak.

(I hope this is not seen as spam, because this is not my intension AT ALL ... I honestly want to debunk some of the snake oil, and the smoke and mirrors regarding SEO ... )
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[SmokeyTheBear]

there is no such thing as whitehat seo.. there is success and failure.. even google breaks its own rules.. the term seo in itself breaks google's rules so anyhat seo is blackhat

[facialfreak]

Shouldn't you be putting out forest fires?

[darksoul]

there is no magic in seo

[facialfreak]

STB:

I know what you mean, and I also don't believe we sent a man to the moon in 1969, but for all intense purposes, SEO comes in two flavors.

And unless you KNOW what I preach, your opinions are just that ... Sir.

It is very possible to teach somebody to build better sites that will get listed favorably WITHOUT having to use "tricks" to manipulate the engines ..

If you want any more info, message me and pay the $20/HR bro ...

[emthree]

SEO is a state of mind

[facialfreak]

Originally Posted by darksoul

there is no magic in seo

100% AGREED

This is why I make it my agenda to try to debunk some of the snake oil and smoke and mirrors that SEO experts for hire would have you believe.

Lately it seems that many of us have lost focus, and would rather try to make money of of the other webmasters rather than trying to sell the surfers ...

It is a sad trend, and having a friend that just got ripped of for more than $800 by somebody very well known in this industry, and on several boards,I decided that I need to try to open as many people's eyes to just how easy basic, effective SEO really is, but my time is money, so I think $20/hr with no minimums is very fair ... If you don't agree, then don't contact me.

[circlekhabib]

BETA BRIGADE webmaster training school

LMAO!
should read
beta brigade newbie herding school

I have been doing SEO for myself for over 3.5 years

gee all of that. wow impressive!
not

I have seen all kinds of changes in what works, and what DOES NOT WORK!

sorry but in 3.5 years you have seen nothing otherwise you would
know what doesn't work now will again and what works now won't later.

99% of basic info needed to have as good a shot as anyone will give
you for 20 an hour is still available free. I know cuz Ive taught many
when I owned an adult board for 5 years. Overall I would say I have
seen things change not all that much but rather flex back and forth.

there is no such thing as whitehat seo

I agree. alot of the same tactics i learned in 98-99 still
apply today and are basically seen as black hat/spam tactics
but do work very well. not always in google but I have always
specialized in doing what everyone else is not.

dare to be different
never follow the crowd

[facialfreak]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

.. there is success and failure..

I disagree. There are good experiences, and then there are learning experiences.

You see it as failure, I see it as just not succeeding .. yet

Glass can be half empty - or it can be half full ...

Half empty thinkers are always thirsty ...

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by facialfreak

STB:

I know what you mean, and I also don't believe we sent a man to the moon in 1969, but for all intense purposes, SEO comes in two flavors.
...

i dont get you , and no... seo comes in many flavours

Originally Posted by facialfreak

And unless you KNOW what I preach, your opinions are just that ... Sir.

im not even sure i know what your talking about let alone what your preaching, but if you have read google guidlines you would know ANYTHING you do to increase your rank is against the rules.. so by contacting you they are already "blackhat"

Originally Posted by facialfreak

It is very possible to teach somebody to build better sites that will get listed favorably WITHOUT having to use "tricks" to manipulate the engines ..

no it isnt.. it violates googles very first guidline ( maybe you havent read them )

"Make pages for users, not for search engines"


Nice try though , you started off good ... ended terribly..

[facialfreak]

Originally Posted by circlekhabib

LMAO!
should read
beta brigade newbie herding school

gee all of that. wow impressive!
not

sorry but in 3.5 years you have seen nothing otherwise you would
know what doesn't work now will again and what works now won't later.

99% of basic info needed to have as good a shot as anyone will give
you for 20 an hour is still available free. I know cuz Ive taught many
when I owned an adult board for 5 years. Overall I would say I have
seen things change not all that much but rather flex back and forth.


I agree. alot of the same tactics i learned in 98-99 still
apply today and are basically seen as black hat/spam tactics
but do work very well. not always in google but I have always
specialized in doing what everyone else is not.

dare to be different
never follow the crowd

Everybody and their brother has owned an adult board ...

Everybody is entitled to their opinions, so I am not going to attack you for yours, however I will point out once again that I am offering merely an alternative to looking for somebody to pay $1500+ per month who promises you the world, and favorable google listings ...

Yes most of the advice is available for FREE .... provided you have the time to search through thousands of articles and then decide what you think has any merits, and what does not ... and then try to apply it.

What I am offering is my personal experiences in what works and what does not. NOTHING MORE OR NOTHING LESS ... I make no guarantees, and to be honest any SEO "expert" that does make guarantees is a fool, and you should turn and run ... very fast.

Case in point : Yahoo for the second month in a row just did major spring cleaning to their databases (normally Yahoo does major updates every 3-4 months). Alot of people with very high placements are feeling it, but NOBODY has the powers to guarantee againtst stuff like this ...

Bust on me all you like .. but maybe you should read my original post once again. I think I stated my disclaimer very well, and I am not looking to scam anybody or to claim I am better than Jill Whelan or Danny Sulivan ...

You can find almost ANYTHING you like for FREE on the internet ... it's a great place ... but for how ling are you going to have to search, and how much BULLSHIT (aka SEO Snake Oil) will you have to filter out to find the stuff that is going to help you?

[facialfreak]

STB:

I don't know who you are, and I find it commendable that you think SEO is Baskin-Robins, but for all intense purposes, there are two recognized flavors ... BLACK and WHITE.

im not even sure i know what your talking about let alone what your preaching, but if you have read google guidlines you would know ANYTHING you do to increase your rank is against the rules.. so by contacting you they are already "blackhat"

Are you for real? ROFLMAO! I was trying to keep very objective, and tried not to unload on you, but seriously man ...

When you build better sites ... your SERPS will improve by default my friend ...
Who said anything about pagerank at all ?? I could give a fat rat's ass about pagerank - its never paid my rent once - but my SERPS sure have ...

I can give you Matt Cutts' personal email if you'd like to confer with him ?

I know this is GO FUCK YOURSELF .. but lets keep this thread objective for the sake of it's author looking for info ...

If you want a piss match, lets start a new thread - and I am on it like a fat kid on a Little Debbie cake ... but there is no need for your piss and vinegar in this one.

Cheers Bro!

FF

[SmokeyTheBear]

im not doubting the value is right but you still sound like a salesman heh

you have to be realistic at the same time dude..

nobody is calling you a liar we are saying that many of your arguments are faulty , because this is gfy and people will respond

look at the links in your own sig with articles on blackhat php cloaking ..

[facialfreak]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

no it isnt.. it violates googles very first guidline ( maybe you havent read them )

"Make pages for users, not for search engines"


Nice try though , you started off good ... ended terribly..

OH MAN !!! Get the "manipulating the SEs" da fuck outta your fat furry head!

I'm not even gonna try to reply to this ...

Have a good one!

Boys and Girls - DONT START FOREST FIRES!

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by facialfreak

Who said anything about pagerank at all ?? I could give a fat rat's ass about pagerank - its never paid my rent once - but my SERPS sure have ...

i didnt mention pagerank.. are you on glue ?

Originally Posted by facialfreak

I can give you Matt Cutts' personal email if you'd like to confer with him ?

i can give you george bush's personal number , whats your point ?

Originally Posted by facialfreak

I know this is GO FUCK YOURSELF .. but lets keep this thread objective for the sake of it's author looking for info ...

sure

Originally Posted by facialfreak

If you want a piss match, lets start a new thread - and I am on it like a fat kid on a Little Debbie cake ... but there is no need for your piss and vinegar in this one.

sure .. better do some research on your targets though..

[SmokeyTheBear]

p.s. theres a little tool called "find" in your browser , go use it , type in pagerank and see where it comes up first.. you might be suprised , and maybe have a little introspective look at yourself

[circlekhabib]

What I am offering is my personal experiences in what works and what does not

your 3.5 years of experience isn't enough knowledge on the subject
to be coming here trying to get 20 an hour.
BUT
your 3.5 years is enough time to know that the pond and gfy are
most excellent for sheep wrangling.

I'm not saying your trying to scam anyone but what you offer
is not worth paying for because you do not have enough experience
and beta brigade is well known for sheep wrangling.
where the motto is
signup for all of our sponsors
and do everything we say.

[circlekhabib]

Everybody and their brother has owned an adult board

maybe so but I owned a private board. no sponsor reps, no sig whores,
no content providers or anyone else that didn't add value to the board.

big difference.
run of the mill I am not.

[facialfreak]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

look at the links in your own sig with articles on blackhat php cloaking ..

Cloaking scripts are used by MANY LARGE KNOWN whitehat (oops sorry - I forgot there is no such thing) companies to help turn a buck ... but all you know is that Black Hatters use them ... so you put 2 + 2 together, and you came up with 3.5 bro. You only read into it what you wanted, to suit your own arguement. My teenage daughter uses the same tactics too, so I am all too familiar with them, but it was a fantastic attempt.

You have gone out of your way to try to make me look like a fool, and I cannot figure out why personally? Is your life really that boring, that you take a perverse pleasure in dragging others into your unhappiness too? What harm have I done by offering a guy a chance to learn for himself what he would otherwise end up paying somebody thousands of dollars to do, and still has at best a 50/50 chance of getting the results he wanted??

If your ONE-ON-ONE telephone or IM time is not worth at least $20 an hour SmokeyTheBear, then maybe you need to evaluate yourself.

I will once again hold out the olive branch to you, but I have a funny feeling you are not going to take it ...

Im outta here ... I am definately not making $20/hr having a battle of wits with you.

FF

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by circlekhabib

your 3.5 years of experience isn't enough knowledge on the subject
to be coming here trying to get 20 an hour.
BUT
your 3.5 years is enough time to know that the pond and gfy are
most excellent for sheep wrangling.

I'm not saying your trying to scam anyone but what you offer
is not worth paying for because you do not have enough experience
and beta brigade is well known for sheep wrangling.
where the motto is
signup for all of our sponsors
and do everything we say.

lets put all that to the side and just say

common sense says a man asking $20/ hour isnt going to teach you if he could make more than $20 an hour himself..

so then you would ask yourself , if he cant even make $20 an hour doing seo , why should i pay him some money ..

he was right about a few things though , most seo is free , and i should add to that nobody is going to teach you anything about seo for $20 an hour , if they cant make $20an hour it would just be risky having them advise you on anything related to seo

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by facialfreak

Cloaking scripts are used by MANY LARGE KNOWN whitehat (oops sorry - I forgot there is no such thing) companies to help turn a buck ... but all you know is that Black Hatters use them ... so you put 2 + 2 together, and you came up with 3.5 bro.

no idiot it says BLACKHAT right on the page dipshit , act rude you will get treated rudely..

Originally Posted by facialfreak

If your ONE-ON-ONE telephone or IM time is not worth at least $20 an hour SmokeyTheBear, then maybe you need to evaluate yourself.

I will once again hold out the olive branch to you, but I have a funny feeling you are not going to take it ...

Im outta here ... I am definately not making $20/hr having a battle of wits with you.

FF

dude your on glue you would have to pay me $50 at least to hear you on the phone.. you can barely read this thread..

If you want a real challenge we can have an seo challenge.. 10 grand 1 month top result wins

the day we decide to start we pick the first 5 words on yahoo news for the keyword phrase...

or should i wait 500 hours first

[facialfreak]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i didnt mention pagerank.. are you on glue ?

My bad ..

... but if you have read google guidlines you would know ANYTHING you do to increase your rank is against the rules.. so by contacting you they are already "blackhat" ...

[SmokeyTheBear]

guess what the R in serp stands for .. ?

[ssp]

DaddyHalBucks, if I can give you one bit of advice, go with somebody who spends a little more time DOING it and a little less time TALKING about it.

[SmokeyTheBear]

btw the owner of this board is very well respected in this biz , if you want to take a challenge he will hold both our 10grand in escrow to be paid to the winner

[facialfreak]

10 grand 1 month top result wins

I am happy with the size of my penis - thank you very much!

I never ONCE claimed to be the top SEO expert on GFY ...

You totally missed the point of my post, and I don't have enough time to hold your hand and walk you through it ... sorry

I just hope the admiration you will earn from your fellow GFY dramatists was worth ruining a business thread ..

Over and out.

[circlekhabib]

if they cant make $20an hour it would just be risky having them advise you on anything related to seo

I agree it would be money down the drain.

[SmokeyTheBear]

i think you need thicker skin for gfy dude , nobody was railing on you , just correcting your mistakes.. most of what you said in your original post was true , it went kind of downhill from there lol.. everything up until you started charging money.. your in a forum filled with people with money its like begging for $20 an hour.. why bother , if you just hand it out for free , there would be enough people that would OFFER to pay you more than $20/hour ..

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by facialfreak

I never ONCE claimed to be the top SEO expert on GFY ...

i never ONCE claimed to be the king of siam , whats your point



you keep saying these things like your deluded or something , or that i claimed you said you were the top guy, i just offered a challenge to you , all you gotta do is say no or maybe later.. dont have to get all pissy

[circlekhabib]

I just hope the admiration you will earn from your fellow GFY dramatists was worth ruining a business thread

that was really dense because it was you that is ruining things
with your attempt to wrangle sheep.

[facialfreak]

I am not begging at all, and stated right from the get go that if you (collectively) do not see the value in what I am offering, you don't need to contact me.

I am far from begging. LOL!

Maybe you need to read the entire article about the cloaking script, and not just the header. All I see that happened here, is you came at me like a bull in a china shop because I actually put a value on my time spent teaching somebody in a one-on-one atmosphere ...

If this is a crime, then I guess you better alert Homeland Security.

Its been a slice ..

Im fine with my skin the way it is also, but thanks for the concern.

[BigDeanEvans]

Originally Posted by circlekhabib

that was really dense because it was you that is ruining things
with your attempt to wrangle sheep.

you're arguing with hungryman

[rotterdammer]

lalalalala, facialfreak is just a morran sjalalalalalla

[Hooligan]

Originally Posted by facialfreak

but for all intense purposes, SEO comes in ..
.

stfu already

[Big John]

To be fair to the guy dispite any 'mistakes' (whether perceived or real) he still made far more sense than 99% of those trying to sell SEO services here. Far too many believe all the bullshit they read rather than filtering it out and then consider themselves experts because they've read loads of BS on 'SEO' boards.

Obviously I have no idea whether he knows what he's doing or not but at least he's more plausible than most.

Oh - and for what it's worth, with the current way Google works and updates 3.5 years experience is more than enough to somebody with a little intelligence and common sense. Knowledge of how to get good Google listings from more than 3.5 years ago is now worthless anyway. Much the same can be said of Yahoo and MSN too.