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Old 07-19-2007, 12:21 AM   #51
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Some Pictures Please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean of you too not just the stats

You're crazy hot, zip it and get NATS already. John will hook you up...

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Old 07-19-2007, 12:38 AM   #52
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Just to be clear, this is a 30 day ratio over many joins and quite a bit of traffic - so it can be considered very accurate...
That phrase puzzles me. What bearing does date have on accuracy? That's like saying me, a helpless man who can't pull for fuck, suddenly pulls twice in one month, but never again, and so I can then quote that on a "30 day ratio" I've pulled more people than ever before...

"Aw, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. Forfty percent of all people know that..."
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:45 AM   #53
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Adri never badmouthed Melissa - in fact she told me that Melissa was very nice. she had a problem with somebody else in Melissa's company she said.
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Old 07-19-2007, 01:18 AM   #54
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We didn't post anything positive or negative on the situation because we were still hoping to get to a good resolution before we announced anything. I wanted to wait till everything was at a better place as to save something like this from happening but I guess in this case that didn't work out. If there is one thing I have learned the hard way in this business it?s you should try and work things out before you open your mouth so I had remained quiet for the last couple weeks on it trying to do that. Again I would have kept mine closed but I have now had Adri try and make me and my company look bad when I did nothing wrong to her then I had her new Photo guy solicit a bunch of my members last week trying to sell her new site and then top that off with you coming into my post and trying to sell her new site enough was enough. I don't want to keep going back and forth on this it only makes it harder for both of us to sell Adri but you don't know her like I do so for you to sit and act like you do is ridiculous to say the least. I know you just want to make money with her and I respect the fact that you are sticking up for her but she fools people very easy she did it to me and all my employees. We thought we knew her very well and we too also believed everything she was saying she was just too sweet not to, but boy did we learn the hard way.

If you start your own thread promoting your new site with Adri I won't have anything to say about it she is now your model not mine and I would never try and make you look bad. I won't go in and say anything negative or try to offers special deals or convince people to promote my Adri site at all. The only way you will ever see me in one of your Adri posts is if you are saying negative things about me or my company and that's it. I hope this is a good resolution and we can go back to promoting without all the drama. Melissa
Melissa, this will be my last post in THIS THREAD. It's starting to get comical.

I posted in YOUR thread, congratulating you and letting people know that Adri had her own site now and was no longer a part of your site. Told people who did well with Adri that we would love to work with them ALSO.

You responded immediately in post 33 by bashing Adri. Saying she was lazy, difficult to work with, couldn't get along with other employees, is unreliable, a thief, and that she has many serious problems thus making her unstable.

You further went on to suggest to people that they should NOT do business with Adri or her new site because she is unstable. Melissa, if you don't think that is actionable, show it to your lawyer. Watch her cringe.

You also state above that you won't offer any special deals to promote Adri. Well, you already have. In the same post, you state that you are considering offering 75% to those who promote your Adri site. That sounds like a special deal to me.

So, I will bow out of YOUR thread now. So much went on that will most likely stay between all of us. I am certain that if some of the other facts came to light, you wouldn't be smelling so sweet. Although, I am sure in person you smell like roses on a country spring morning.

Anyway, enjoy your thread. I could say more, but I will just leave it at that. People can see the contradictions in your posts on their own. Not that they are intentional, but they are there. I look forward to joining your program as an affiliate and promoting melissamidwest.com.
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Old 07-19-2007, 01:27 AM   #55
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lol couldnt have a program launch without drama now could we?
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Old 07-19-2007, 01:30 AM   #56
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paysite drama = Fred skips the affiliate. :/
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:10 AM   #57
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lol couldnt have a program launch without drama now could we?
Good way to build confidence in your business... at least that's what some appear to think.
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:32 AM   #58
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What was uncalled for was you sticking your nose in her thread to promote Adri when you knew there were some issues... IMO (and I don't particularly like Mellisa) what she did was perfectly reasonable given your classless act.
Agreed

Not a hope in hell i'd promote hotadri, not after the way in which the new site owner/webmaster spams the site in threads where it is clearly inappropriate.

I've actually noticed ratios getting better and better since the switch to nats. Will most definitely be putting more links up
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Old 07-19-2007, 09:47 AM   #59
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Melissa, this will be my last post in THIS THREAD. It's starting to get comical.

I posted in YOUR thread, congratulating you and letting people know that Adri had her own site now and was no longer a part of your site. Told people who did well with Adri that we would love to work with them ALSO.

You responded immediately in post 33 by bashing Adri. Saying she was lazy, difficult to work with, couldn't get along with other employees, is unreliable, a thief, and that she has many serious problems thus making her unstable.

You further went on to suggest to people that they should NOT do business with Adri or her new site because she is unstable. Melissa, if you don't think that is actionable, show it to your lawyer. Watch her cringe.

You also state above that you won't offer any special deals to promote Adri. Well, you already have. In the same post, you state that you are considering offering 75% to those who promote your Adri site. That sounds like a special deal to me.

So, I will bow out of YOUR thread now. So much went on that will most likely stay between all of us. I am certain that if some of the other facts came to light, you wouldn't be smelling so sweet. Although, I am sure in person you smell like roses on a country spring morning.

Anyway, enjoy your thread. I could say more, but I will just leave it at that. People can see the contradictions in your posts on their own. Not that they are intentional, but they are there. I look forward to joining your program as an affiliate and promoting melissamidwest.com.

Again all I said was basically people should wait till they know she is here to stay this time since I know first hand how hard it is to work with her (nothing against you or your company). This is for my benefit a little also I won't lie! If she left me and then she would happen to leave you neither of us will have much luck trying to get affiliates to promote her sites. I hope she works out perfect with your company and gets even bigger in the long run if anything that will help me with my site SweetAdri.com. I was not saying your company was bad or anything like that at all and I wish you the best of luck with her site and hope you can make it work. I just didn't have the time to constantly watch her maybe you do.

As for the special deals this is my thread and I am free say what I want in it. What I said to you was I would never dream of going into one of your Adri threads and posting something like that unless I felt I was being attacked.

And as for the negative Adri stuff posted by me you can call it what you want but at the end of the day it's the truth, it's documented and many people saw it first hand. I am not sure how the truth is bashing someone this has cost me time, money and stress do I not get to at least tell the truth on what happen?

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Old 07-19-2007, 10:00 AM   #60
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Adri never badmouthed Melissa - in fact she told me that Melissa was very nice. she had a problem with somebody else in Melissa's company she said.

Yes this is kind of true I mean she had a problem with EVERYONE for the most part that asked her to do something but Shane more specific he is my ex (for all of you that were hoping to get a date this is your chance I moved out a couple months ago lol)! He managed her more then I did for the fact that I was running my company, traveling for photo shoots doing promotions, bachelor parties and going to school. His job is also to make sure people are busting there butt everyday and doing what they are supposed to do, we never asked Adri to do anything that wasn't either explained to her at the beginning when she was hired or in her contract. I am working close to 80 hours a week but I still worked and shot with her a lot and always knew what was going on with her on a daily basis. A lot of what Shane asked her came from my mouth first. I think part of it was she wanted the control I had over my site and the money I made but I have been doing this for close to 5 years and work 80 hours a week and have for years. You have to put in your time before you can just expect to run everything and 10 hours a week and complaining most the time will not get you much I am sorry! Melissa
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:22 PM   #62
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Yes this is kind of true I mean she had a problem with EVERYONE for the most part that asked her to do something but Shane more specific he is my ex (for all of you that were hoping to get a date this is your chance I moved out a couple months ago lol)! He managed her more then I did for the fact that I was running my company, traveling for photo shoots doing promotions, bachelor parties and going to school. His job is also to make sure people are busting there butt everyday and doing what they are supposed to do, we never asked Adri to do anything that wasn't either explained to her at the beginning when she was hired or in her contract. I am working close to 80 hours a week but I still worked and shot with her a lot and always knew what was going on with her on a daily basis. A lot of what Shane asked her came from my mouth first. I think part of it was she wanted the control I had over my site and the money I made but I have been doing this for close to 5 years and work 80 hours a week and have for years. You have to put in your time before you can just expect to run everything and 10 hours a week and complaining most the time will not get you much I am sorry! Melissa


What????

You have to work hard for s single girl site??

Get out of here !!!!

and I was going to go get a sex change, and take photos and videos and do a few cam shows. Then run around with buckets catching the money? Is this not right?

I have to work more than 5 hours a week??

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ummm..... I think I am just going to stick with Melissa for the long run. Adri seems flakely to me and will just be content. Melissa will always have that special something that keeps recurring.
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Yes this is kind of true I mean she had a problem with EVERYONE for the most part that asked her to do something but Shane more specific he is my ex (for all of you that were hoping to get a date this is your chance I moved out a couple months ago lol)! He managed her more then I did for the fact that I was running my company, traveling for photo shoots doing promotions, bachelor parties and going to school. His job is also to make sure people are busting there butt everyday and doing what they are supposed to do, we never asked Adri to do anything that wasn't either explained to her at the beginning when she was hired or in her contract. I am working close to 80 hours a week but I still worked and shot with her a lot and always knew what was going on with her on a daily basis. A lot of what Shane asked her came from my mouth first. I think part of it was she wanted the control I had over my site and the money I made but I have been doing this for close to 5 years and work 80 hours a week and have for years. You have to put in your time before you can just expect to run everything and 10 hours a week and complaining most the time will not get you much I am sorry! Melissa
Melissa that is the problem - you are comparing Adri to yourself. You are a rare breed, what you and your ex went through with Adri if you do this again will just repeat itself over and over again - ask any of the webmasters/photogs who do this. It comes with the territory - you may luck out with a gem sometime but don't expect it. I have a feeling Adri might not be as bad as most models - if you got 100 sets out of her over 7 months you weren't doing badly at all. You cannot expect any model to have the maturity, discipline or work ethic you think she should have - you can expect it but it just won't happen 9 out of 10 girls.
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Melissa that is the problem - you are comparing Adri to yourself. You are a rare breed, what you and your ex went through with Adri if you do this again will just repeat itself over and over again - ask any of the webmasters/photogs who do this. It comes with the territory - you may luck out with a gem sometime but don't expect it. I have a feeling Adri might not be as bad as most models - if you got 100 sets out of her over 7 months you weren't doing badly at all. You cannot expect any model to have the maturity, discipline or work ethic you think she should have - you can expect it but it just won't happen 9 out of 10 girls.

You know maybe you are right but I guess I just figure people should do what they say if you do what you said you would do! I know that is maybe stupid to think after hearing other people?s horror stories but I still did. I think what threw me off was the fact we shot close to 3/4 of those sets the first month and she seemed like such a hard worker and then it all changed very quickly. I am also mad at myself because I knew I should have fired her sooner but I kept giving her more chances thinking she would change. Oh well I will have to mark this one up as another learning experience. Melissa
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Old 07-19-2007, 05:48 PM   #67
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Yes i agree and feel kinda of cheated....Seems like a picture of that Sexy body with a REALLY Big I'm cashing in Smile is only FAIR

Ok here are a couple since everyone felt cheated lol! Melissa




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Ok here are a couple since everyone felt cheated lol! Melissa





Hell yeah! very nice...WOOF!
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Here's my take on this thread...

The Drama -
I don't care

YOUR thread, A thread -
Reminds me of a middle school fight. Thanks for the entertainment.

The Stats -
Of course their blacked out. People saying otherwise made me laugh. It's nobodies business really how many sales her site is making. And the time frame is good enough... to know or assume that this is a 30 day period and those are the ratios are decent enough. I enjoyed the picture rather than somebody saying "I convert soandso"

Good times.
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Right on Melissa....and thats the Smile i was talking about
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Bump for my 100% payouts on Sweetadri.com tomorrow and the next day not to mention the $500 bonus to one lucky affiliate that sends at least one sale either of those days. Melissa
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