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Entropy · 01-10-2005, 09:25 PM

Greenguy
Tommy (from Tommy's Bookmarks)
Serge
Lensman
Helmy
....the list goes on and on...

Ian · 01-10-2005, 09:31 PM

Lots of us are around. Very few post anymore.

No one goes to conferences anymore.

JerseyPuma · 01-10-2005, 09:37 PM

Not one Marc De mention? surprising...

Executive Stats · 01-10-2005, 09:45 PM

12clicks · 01-10-2005, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimmykim

And in the end, it's not about legends, it's about money. Period.

no its not!
It's where you eat in vegas

venus · 01-10-2005, 11:01 PM

insidethegame
2 things you dont ask on GFY, one is a buiness question, the second is a tech question beyond anything that is normally bought at best buy

Quote:

Originally Posted by insidethegame

Sorry my mistake for posting..I thought you little boys axtually knew something or could take one fucking thing serious..LOL..what a waste

emthree · 01-10-2005, 11:47 PM

I'd like to take this time to plug all the little people who do the grunt work.
Respect to the content and the stunt cocks.

Ian · 01-10-2005, 11:49 PM

12 clicks was owned for a long time by someone who obviously prefers to disassociate himself from his creation.

We all know who the owner was but we won't say because he's always been basically a cool guy with a very bright mind.

Too bad we were left with Ronnie.

Personally, I really miss Serge. Now there was a man with brains, humour and could carry any kind of conversationon any subject.

I also remember the days that Lens had a voice and wasn't an absentee landlord.

Verbal · 01-11-2005, 01:16 AM

CyberAge Dave has to be pretty high up there ;)

JulianSosa · 01-11-2005, 01:26 AM

Aussies
Serge
Y

sharpx9 · 01-11-2005, 01:27 AM

y0 m0mmzZ!

OY · 01-11-2005, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Executive Stats

LOL

!!!!!!

sharpx9 · 01-11-2005, 01:58 AM

Far-L · 01-11-2005, 02:18 AM

Behind every legend is a myth and while myths make good stories they are not necessarily true.

jayeff · 01-11-2005, 03:53 AM

As well as lacking a Hugh Hefner, able to work his magic on a variety of ventures, there is also a distinct lack of newcomers in the list so far. That doesn't bode very well for such a young industry.

I can't believe I'm making the same choice as SD, but I'm also going to "vote" for Andrew Conru. Not because of AFF, which although hugely successful features a lot of what I like least about this business, but because he successfully adapted his business model for so many niches, in and out of porn. The recent changes in the rules of AsiaFF also suggest someone who isn't resting on his laurels and will be around for a long time to come.

slavdogg · 01-11-2005, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

12 clicks was owned for a long time by someone who obviously prefers to disassociate himself from his creation.

We all know who the owner was but we won't say because he's always been basically a cool guy with a very bright mind.

Too bad we were left with Ronnie.

Personally, I really miss Serge. Now there was a man with brains, humour and could carry any kind of conversationon any subject.

I also remember the days that Lens had a voice and wasn't an absentee landlord.

Ian you need to get out more often

ADL Colin · 01-11-2005, 04:48 AM

The first two click programs were Cybererotica and Amateur Hardcore so I'd go with "Fantasy Man" of CE, Al Hadhazy of Amateur Hardcore and of course Persian Kitty who dominated the tops of the hit trackers for many years and inspired many free webmasters.

For those who weren't around here is the story behind why Amateur Hardcore instituted a click through program. Amateur Hardcore was buying traffic from a coalition of webmasters know as COTAC. COTAC included Oprano's Serge, JoeHoller, Robon Nixon, DebofTheWeb, NightLifer, and Davic. A disagreement over click counts caused COTAC to stop sending traffic which greatly reduced Al's revenue overnight. Al, needing a quick solution, brainstormed and came up with a click through program which paid two cents per click. The program utilized full automation of the sign up process and stats. The idea quickly spread. Thus was born his click-through program.

Necessity really is the mother of invention.

Genie · 01-11-2005, 04:52 AM

Wish I was a legend.

ADL Colin · 01-11-2005, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerseyPuma

Not one Marc De mention? surprising...

Marc De. Definitely.

pussyluver · 01-11-2005, 04:59 AM

Larry Flynt should be added to the list.

12clicks · 01-11-2005, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slavdogg

Ian you need to get out more often

Slav, is this the old canadian ian of "the flying fuck squad" fame or is this a different bitter loser who imagines he knows this businesse's history?

Nickatilynx · 10-12-2005, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

12 clicks was owned for a long time by someone who obviously prefers to disassociate himself from his creation.

We all know who the owner was but we won't say because he's always been basically a cool guy with a very bright mind.

Too bad we were left with Ronnie.

Personally, I really miss Serge. Now there was a man with brains, humour and could carry any kind of conversationon any subject.

I also remember the days that Lens had a voice and wasn't an absentee landlord.

Ian????

Snowblind?

dig420 · 10-12-2005, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

12 clicks was owned for a long time by someone who obviously prefers to disassociate himself from his creation.

We all know who the owner was but we won't say because he's always been basically a cool guy with a very bright mind.

Too bad we were left with Ronnie.

Personally, I really miss Serge. Now there was a man with brains, humour and could carry any kind of conversationon any subject.

I also remember the days that Lens had a voice and wasn't an absentee landlord.

The guy is someone I learned a lot from but I won't even mention his name here out of respect. Ronnie has been riding his coattails for years convincing all newbies he's a genius.

ditto on serge.

SilentKnight · 10-12-2005, 01:21 PM

goatse...is legend

Jakke PNG · 10-12-2005, 01:32 PM

I stand by my 2002 selection.

BlueQuartz · 10-12-2005, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by insidethegame

Sorry my mistake for posting..I thought you little boys axtually knew something or could take one fucking thing serious..LOL..what a waste

are you kiddin?? most of these kids just finished building their first gallery

s9ann0 · 10-12-2005, 01:43 PM

Xpics and the guy that stole sex.com!

pornstar2pac · 10-12-2005, 01:45 PM

dave pounder

PurrrsianPussyKat · 10-12-2005, 01:48 PM

I'd have to go with The Shemp

Forest · 10-12-2005, 01:49 PM

Serge
MikeAI
Lensman
MarcDe
R-N

KingK7 · 10-12-2005, 01:51 PM

SpaceDog
foh sheezy

BradShaw · 10-12-2005, 01:53 PM

Someone call me?

the Shemp · 10-12-2005, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurrrsianPussyKat

I'd have to go with The Shemp

im a legend at the seniors home..

NoComments · 10-12-2005, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

Marc De. Definitely.

...and would we still remember who Marc was if RB didn't get into troubles with FTC?

Marc was in the right place at the right time with his $75 per sign up offer...
;)

RogerV · 10-12-2005, 03:54 PM

What sucks is the guys with all the money are totally silent in the industry..

but legends as far as internet porn would be Seth Warshavsky and Danni ashe hands down.. then many others right after.

better question is who is still around from the pioneers

JJ Gold · 10-12-2005, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 49thParallel

Hugh Hefner..the one and only true king

He built an adult empire using class, dignity and integrity.

Online...no one (not even Hugh) has been able to come close to his accomplishments.

I would think somebody like JoeE has made more money than Hefner.

RogerV · 10-12-2005, 04:07 PM

What I have learned from being in the industry since late 96 is Perception is not the reality.

teleblade69 · 10-12-2005, 04:08 PM

WOJ... and his famous bot ;)

Nicky · 10-12-2005, 04:15 PM

Some big names in this thread, some of the big boys have posted too

Rui · 10-12-2005, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV

What I have learned from being in the industry since late 96 is Perception is not the reality.

you can say that again....

BuggyG · 10-12-2005, 04:18 PM

I vote for Dugmor!

Mr. Jim · 10-12-2005, 04:19 PM

I think we have enough to go on for now...go ahead and turn the witness loose....

TheGoldenChild · 10-12-2005, 04:28 PM

You want to talk about legends?

I'll give my list- and I somewhat pride myself on knowing what the fuck I am talking about-
:-))

Here is my list from 20 -1

20.) Al Fore- Creator of AL4A.com
19.) The Mighty Buffet Family ( adult buffet.com)
18). Dave Seichel - Pure Hardcore
17). Serge Birbair- COTAC
16). D-Money- marketing firm/ Players Ball
15). Seth Warshavsky- IEG
14). Steven Cohen- sex.com
13). Brad Shaw- SIC CASH
12). Mike AI- Amateur Index/ Hi Rise
11). Danni Ashe DHD
10). Yishai H.-
9).Clay Andrews- Paycom
8).Ron Cadwell- CC Bill
7).John Bennet (J.B.) Traffic Cash Gold
6).Ian Eisenberg/ Roger V- Pornkings
5).Joe E. - CEN / TGG
4).David Van Der Poel- Python
3).Rich Botto- Maxcash
2).Marc De- ARS
1). Ron Levi- Cybererotica

TheGoldenChild · 10-12-2005, 04:31 PM

honorable mentions to

LENSMAN
12 Clicks
Aly D
Kevin Ho
J$tyles
KK
Holly and Bonnie Moss
Ed Bonn
Greg Dumas
Lee Noga
Gary Kremen
Webfather
Jany.net
Mike Fold
PicPost
The Hun
Casa Rosso
Tore K
Damon D

PimpDaddyPants · 10-12-2005, 04:37 PM

Me -> PimpDaddyPants

See Sig

RogerV · 10-12-2005, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kBizzle

You want to talk about legends?

I'll give my list- and I somewhat pride myself on knowing what the fuck I am talking about-
:-))

Here is my list from 20 -1

20.) Al Fore- Creator of AL4A.com
19.) The Mighty Buffet Family ( adult buffet.com)
18). Dave Seichel - Pure Hardcore
17). Serge Birbair- COTAC
16). D-Money- marketing firm/ Players Ball
15). Seth Warshavsky- IEG
14). Steven Cohen- sex.com
13). Brad Shaw- SIC CASH
12). Mike AI- Amateur Index/ Hi Rise
11). Danni Ashe DHD
10). Yishai H.-
9).Clay Andrews- Paycom
8).Ron Cadwell- CC Bill
7).John Bennet (J.B.) Traffic Cash Gold
6).Ian Eisenberg/ Roger V- Pornkings
5).Joe E. - CEN / TGG
4).David Van Der Poel- Python
3).Rich Botto- Maxcash
2).Marc De- ARS
1). Ron Levi- Cybererotica

you and Jstyles everyone knows

spacedog · 10-12-2005, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadCat

SleazyDream

sleazydream is one cool dude

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 10-12-2005, 05:30 PM

TANKER BY FAR

NoComments · 10-12-2005, 05:55 PM

KB,
those were the first ones,
what others on your list have this distinction?

Your 2 list looks more like a reconsiliation of asses you used to kiss with asses you might find beneficial kissing in the future
;)

4).David Van Der Poel- Python - First Euro proggy who made it big on the net
3).Rich Botto- Maxcash - First per sign-up program
2).Xpics - first sttlement with FTC
1). Ron Levi- Cybererotica - First marketeer with shot gun approach
0).Al Hadhazy - First per click program

woj · 10-12-2005, 05:55 PM

100..........

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Ian Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,259	Lots of us are around. Very few post anymore. No one goes to conferences anymore.

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Ian Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,259	12 clicks was owned for a long time by someone who obviously prefers to disassociate himself from his creation. We all know who the owner was but we won't say because he's always been basically a cool guy with a very bright mind. Too bad we were left with Ronnie. Personally, I really miss Serge. Now there was a man with brains, humour and could carry any kind of conversationon any subject. I also remember the days that Lens had a voice and wasn't an absentee landlord.

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jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	As well as lacking a Hugh Hefner, able to work his magic on a variety of ventures, there is also a distinct lack of newcomers in the list so far. That doesn't bode very well for such a young industry. I can't believe I'm making the same choice as SD, but I'm also going to "vote" for Andrew Conru. Not because of AFF, which although hugely successful features a lot of what I like least about this business, but because he successfully adapted his business model for so many niches, in and out of porn. The recent changes in the rules of AsiaFF also suggest someone who isn't resting on his laurels and will be around for a long time to come.

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