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Old 09-10-2007, 05:32 PM   #1
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What are some big name sites that use Epoch?

I'm finishing off a solo girl site and we have been thinking about going with Epoch but the model thinks that she won't get as many members if she doesn't go with CCBill and neither of us can find hardly any big name sites that use Epoch.

So give me some of the sites that you know of that use Epoch; especially solo girl sites (not hard-core).
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Old 09-10-2007, 05:35 PM   #2
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Old 09-10-2007, 05:39 PM   #3
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Old 09-10-2007, 05:59 PM   #6
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First question is why is the Model telling you what processor to use? Maybe she's a partner in her site but isn't that what you get paid for? which one of you have the experience in launching sites?

We use but in a cascade if that helps you at all.
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:02 PM   #7
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Wow.

It's perfectly okay to ask questions, but to be depending on the model for business decisions is quite... interesting. Do either of you have any prior experience with pay sites?
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:10 PM   #8
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If the site is good webmasters won't care what your backend is. If it is average or below average then yes, you'll probably pick up a few more webmasters who will be content to merge your site into their ccbill account and send you 1 or 2 sales, knowing they'll still get a check even after earning only $23.
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:15 PM   #9
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Here is a long list of sites from TBP where we show EPOCH as the primary biller

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Old 09-10-2007, 07:20 PM   #10
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I rarely signup (as an affiliate) for a sologirl site that doesn't use CCBill. I like the fact that I can add them to my database (I don't really do much solo girl promotion) and if someone signs up then I'll get paid because my total across all ccbill sites will be more than the minimum.

That doesn't mean that epoch are no good... We used to do well with Blacks on Blondes before they switched to NATS.
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The model is telling me what to do because it is her site and not mine. I'm just a computer guy with no paysite experience but she trusts me.

I guess I should have clarified that I doubt that she will be setting up an affiliate program so this question was supposed to be more oriented from the surfers perspective of Epoch vs CCBill.

She is an amateur solo girl along the lines of Kates Playground, Natalie Sparks, etc.
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:57 PM   #12
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The choice of IPSP won't significantly hinder or aid surfer signups.
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:26 PM   #13
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The model is telling me what to do because it is her site and not mine. I'm just a computer guy with no paysite experience but she trusts me.

I guess I should have clarified that I doubt that she will be setting up an affiliate program so this question was supposed to be more oriented from the surfers perspective of Epoch vs CCBill.

She is an amateur solo girl along the lines of Kates Playground, Natalie Sparks, etc.
ok .. so then she's not the model she's the owner. your just putting the pieces together for her. you work for her right? then do what she asks.
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:26 PM   #14
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As long as you are doing regular porn, there should not be much of a difference between the two. If you are doing any type of fetish or BDSM site, very few sites in that area use Epoch, so using CCBill would be a definite advantage.
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Old 09-10-2007, 10:36 PM   #15
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We are currently installing Epoch as an option for affiliates, it will cascade to CCBILL and use the MP3 system.

The results will be interesting.
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Old 09-10-2007, 10:59 PM   #16
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she's right - in solo girl teen site niche she will be better off with CCBILL.
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:49 AM   #17
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You want to rather ask who DOESN'T use Epoch, anyway a combination of both won't harm anything.
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:50 AM   #18
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Use both, get NATS.

Contact me, I'd be more than happy to help you out with the fees to get started with it.
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Here is a long list of sites from TBP where we show EPOCH as the primary biller

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nice list!

Basically every major company uses epoch! Epoch ROCKS!
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The choice of IPSP won't significantly hinder or aid surfer signups.
Different proccessors use different scrubs which can have a major effect on signups, and there's a reason just about all the big guys ALL have used Epoch at some point or another...
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Hey dsatchell,
Check out our search engine for adult sponsors:

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At the top of the page you can perform various searches including Epoch .

Feel free to choose what fit best for your traffic!

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Old 09-11-2007, 06:08 PM   #24
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I doubt that she will be setting up an affiliate program
That remark indicates that you should listen to the model and use ccbill.

Ccbill only needs a couple of clicks to acitvate and manage the affilates account so doubting that she wants one is off the mark.

Opening a paysite without clicking the affiliate program button in ccbill is not maximizing the business.
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I've tried talking her into an affiliate program which is why we were going to use Epoch with the MP3 but like someone else said "She's the boss", I'm just the guy that put some things together.

At this point we are going to go with CCBill and if she does eventually go with affiliates we will start up with Epoch.

Thanks for the input.
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wait your letting a model tell you how to run her site? tell her to keep her fucking mouth shut and keep a cock in there so she's quiet like she belongs..... if she does her job and sucks the cock right and you do your's and get a biller either epoch or ccbill then you will do alright.. if you keep listening to the "rib's:" in this industry then I am sorry for you... a woman has no place speaking amungst men
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Different proccessors use different scrubs which can have a major effect on signups, and there's a reason just about all the big guys ALL have used Epoch at some point or another...
I wasn't talking about scrub. I was saying that surfers simply don't say "Oh, she uses Epoch, I'm signing up!" or "Hmm, she's using CCBill. Forget that."
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I've tried talking her into an affiliate program which is why we were going to use Epoch with the MP3 but like someone else said "She's the boss", I'm just the guy that put some things together.

At this point we are going to go with CCBill and if she does eventually go with affiliates we will start up with Epoch.

Thanks for the input.
You missed the point. It is easy to run an affiliate program under CCbill because you don't do anything. Ccbill does it all, from mailing the checks etc... All you do is click a few buttons and chose a payout structure.
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No matter which way she decides to go, I'm the one that will be implementing it and I'm the one that will be getting the experience. It's not my site, it's not my business, and I've still got my regular company that I run. Either way I win.

But honestly, this chick is so damn hot and has a personality and body that guys drool for. Other women talk about her because she is so sexy and men run into things because they are staring at her too much.

I can't say anymore but we will be going live in the next two weeks (finallly).
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