The question PBucksJohn never answered

[fuckingfuck]

This was asked:

Originally Posted by BoyAlley

TMM John have you contacted the FBI yet about the breach of your system and the stolen password file that lead to all of this?

With the spamming that took place as a result, it looks like HUGE money could potentially have been made by the criminals involved here.

I'm confident that the FBI would get involved, trace the money through the sponsors being promoted in those spams, and help catch the criminals and bring them to justice.

I haven't heard this being talked about yet?

And this was his reply:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

That is all being done under the advisement of counsel. Fortunately I do not get my legal advice from GFY. Lots of people here think they know everything about the law and you'd be amazed how little they do know. I have also been advised not to discuss it at this point. You can be assured tho that we want whoever this is found and punished more than anyone else.

So, I hope soon we will hear about what they are actually doing to have the thieves caught. We, the people whose info was stolen, want to know who were contacted and how they will find the people behind this. What John wrote above isn't very convincing to me.

Unless they properly inform people who were directly affected with all this shit, there will always be suspicion above the involvement of TMM in alll this. TMM people should learn more about good PR. As an example, look at how Mattel responded to the news on toys with toxic lead. They didn't respond like: "our customers don't know anything about law, we are doing things but we won't tell".

[commonsense]

Playing out every aspect of an investigation on a message board is idiotic. It's like heading to battle with news cameras following your every move.


Have you tried contacting TMM or John directly with your concerns? Unless you identify yourself you're neither a customer of TMM, or an affiliate capable of making sales.

[Doctor Dre]

Yes but simply giving no specifications to the webmasters is plain stupid. Have the basics stepts (contacting the FBI) been taken ?

You have to clear up theses questions, because right now people are starting to assume stuff that might not be true, but that is locigal reasoning because of the situation.

[JD]

i wouldn't touch anything TMM has its hands in with a 10 foot pole...

[V_RocKs]

Obviously you don't talk about an investigation online. That is like giving the hacker your play book.

You don't think the hacker scans this board to see what is going on? Pretty much all hackers do. That is why I get lots of Emails from them asking me about going to the "dark side"... Becoming a webmaster and making money. Not sure why they see that as the dark side but they do. Some of them have actually become some very successful webmasters.

And even more still became program owners before I got to this board.

[minusonebit]

There are so many questions TMM is avoiding its not even funny. Alot of people still sticking up for TMM, they are all on my list of people to never deal with again. This is one of those things where you are either with John or you're against him. If you are with John on this, you and your operation are automatically suspect. Alot of stuff going on behind the scenes here, we can only wonder what has been promised to the John supporters in exchange for their continued support.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Funny, I am not claiming any sides other than the fact that Minusonebit has gone out of his way to hurt this industries reputation.

Minusonebit you are no hero dude.
I am quite sure a great many more are takin in your details to never do business with you in this industry.

You are a black mark and a stain to us all.

[commonsense]

Originally Posted by minusonebit

There are so many questions TMM is avoiding its not even funny. Alot of people still sticking up for TMM, they are all on my list of people to never deal with again. This is one of those things where you are either with John or you're against him. If you are with John on this, you and your operation are automatically suspect. Alot of stuff going on behind the scenes here, we can only wonder what has been promised to the John supporters in exchange for their continued support.

From what you've posted, you do almost zero business in adult anyways. No big loss to anyone. You have no stake in the adult business, and pretending you do is almost as amazing as your personal vendetta against TMM. I'm still waiting for the ramifications of all this, since so far not a god damn thing is different at any of the sponsors i'm with. No extra spam, nothing. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if you're not searching the web every single day for the chance to find this supposed list of information. Maybe you could steal it from the 'hackers', just so you could use it yourself and point more fingers about it. Fuck, stranger things have happened


You've done nothing to help this situation, likening it peeling off a scab over and over again just hoping it leaves a scar. If you were truly concerned about privacy, you'd be raising your flag against the giant programs and individuals that are ACTIVELY doing shady shit in front of everyone. You know, the shit that for some reason everyone accepts as "just part of the biz". The guys that run tube and torrent sites, steal content, sending out mass spams, etc. are a 100x bigger issue.


But it wouldn't matter much anyways, those guys are barely on GFY and are laughing all the way to bank.... all the while you continue your personal crusade of misinformation, all because John hurt your feelings

[JFK]

Originally Posted by commonsense

From what you've posted, you do almost zero business in adult anyways. No big loss to anyone. You have no stake in the adult business, and pretending you do is almost as amazing as your personal vendetta against TMM. I'm still waiting for the ramifications of all this, since so far not a god damn thing is different at any of the sponsors i'm with. No extra spam, nothing. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if you're not searching the web every single day for the chance to find this supposed list of information. Maybe you could steal it from the 'hackers', just so you could use it yourself and point more fingers about it. Fuck, stranger things have happened


You've done nothing to help this situation, likening it peeling off a scab over and over again just hoping it leaves a scar. If you were truly concerned about privacy, you'd be raising your flag against the giant programs and individuals that are ACTIVELY doing shady shit in front of everyone. You know, the shit that for some reason everyone accepts as "just part of the biz". The guys that run tube and torrent sites, steal content, sending out mass spams, etc. are a 100x bigger issue.


But it wouldn't matter much anyways, those guys are barely on GFY and are laughing all the way to bank.... all the while you continue your personal crusade of misinformation, all because John hurt your feelings

nice post

[minusonebit]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Funny, I am not claiming any sides other than the fact that Minusonebit has gone out of his way to hurt this industries reputation.

Minusonebit you are no hero dude.
I am quite sure a great many more are takin in your details to never do business with you in this industry.

You are a black mark and a stain to us all.

Good for them. And good for you. I have had no problem finding people to do business with and I still will not. I have gone out of my way to expose TMM. If you think this is hurting the adult industry as a whole you are an idiot. Its better for the industry to get out in front of this now rather than continue to hide it as has been done for a while now. And you and I were going to do business until you started shooting your mouth off on GFY. I am surprised you have any clients left at all.

I've got shit to do today. I'm due in court in a couple of hours, so I am gonna get off GFY and go take care of business.

[minusonebit]

Originally Posted by commonsense

From what you've posted, you do almost zero business in adult anyways. No big loss to anyone. You have no stake in the adult business, and pretending you do is almost as amazing as your personal vendetta against TMM. I'm still waiting for the ramifications of all this, since so far not a god damn thing is different at any of the sponsors i'm with. No extra spam, nothing. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if you're not searching the web every single day for the chance to find this supposed list of information. Maybe you could steal it from the 'hackers', just so you could use it yourself and point more fingers about it. Fuck, stranger things have happened


You've done nothing to help this situation, likening it peeling off a scab over and over again just hoping it leaves a scar. If you were truly concerned about privacy, you'd be raising your flag against the giant programs and individuals that are ACTIVELY doing shady shit in front of everyone. You know, the shit that for some reason everyone accepts as "just part of the biz". The guys that run tube and torrent sites, steal content, sending out mass spams, etc. are a 100x bigger issue.


But it wouldn't matter much anyways, those guys are barely on GFY and are laughing all the way to bank.... all the while you continue your personal crusade of misinformation, all because John hurt your feelings

So you are saying that TMM is 100% on the up and up, huh? You're so full of shit. I'll deal with one issue at a time. Right now, I am working on TMM. I'll work on another issue if and when I feel like it. If you know of shady people, then why aren't you outing them? Doesn't it make you even more of a crook when you know about shady people and keep it to yourself? Why do I have to do all of the outing of shady people? And if you know all this stuff that is going on behind the scenes, why haven't you e-mailed me and said 'Hey Minus, here is other shit - John is not the only one!'. Its obvious, because you are running your mouth and have no fucking clue.

[commonsense]

Originally Posted by minusonebit

So you are saying that TMM is 100% on the up and up, huh? You're so full of shit. I'll deal with one issue at a time. Right now, I am working on TMM. I'll work on another issue if and when I feel like it. (1) If you know of shady people, then why aren't you outing them? Doesn't it make you even more of a crook when you know about shady people and keep it to yourself? (2) Why do I have to do all of the outing of shady people? And if you know all this stuff that is going on behind the scenes, (3) why haven't you e-mailed me and said 'Hey Minus, here is other shit - John is not the only one!'. Its obvious, because you are running your mouth and have no fucking clue.

I could really care less if TMM is '100% on the up and up', whatever the fuck that means. It's a moot point. So far the only information public is that a user/pass list was stolen, and used to access a few of the millions of sites on the web. Unless there's something else I missed. You are throwing out misinformation and stating it as fact.


1. If you were in the business, this wouldn't be news to you.

2. You seem to like the spotlight.

3. One of the more delusional things I've ever read.


You do sound like a jilted lover. Did you and John have a past history together (romantic or otherwise) before all this?

[Doctor Dre]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Obviously you don't talk about an investigation online. That is like giving the hacker your play book.

You don't think the hacker scans this board to see what is going on? Pretty much all hackers do. That is why I get lots of Emails from them asking me about going to the "dark side"... Becoming a webmaster and making money. Not sure why they see that as the dark side but they do. Some of them have actually become some very successful webmasters.

And even more still became program owners before I got to this board.

Yes, but just simply saying if there is an ongoing criminal investigation shouldn't do any dammage.

[commonsense]

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Yes, but just simply saying if there is an ongoing criminal investigation shouldn't do any dammage.

I can agree with that

[minusonebit]

Originally Posted by commonsense

I could really care less if TMM is '100% on the up and up', whatever the fuck that means. It's a moot point. So far the only information public is that a user/pass list was stolen, and used to access a few of the millions of sites on the web. Unless there's something else I missed. You are throwing out misinformation and stating it as fact.


1. If you were in the business, this wouldn't be news to you.

2. You seem to like the spotlight.

3. One of the more delusional things I've ever read.


You do sound like a jilted lover. Did you and John have a past history together (romantic or otherwise) before all this?

Thanks. You have no credibility now. If you don't care if John is on the up and up or not, then WHY ARE YOU POSTING IN TMM THREADS? You answered your own question already. You are here to troll in my thread and follow me around like a lost puppy. I am not going to address this again. I am in the adult industry as much as people hate to admit it or would rather I not be. It does not make any fucking difference if adult has been crooked for a year, two years, always crooked or anything else.

You're another one of John's fans trying to take the focus off NATS and the way he handled the entire mess and somehow stick it on me. There has been alot of that going on lately.

And in answer to your stupid question, until this issue came up up a couple of weeks ago, I didn't even know the name John Albright, had never heard of Too Much Media and the only thing I knew about NATS was that it was a type of . So no, I wasn't fucking John. I didn't even know him until this little mess came to light.