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Old 03-07-2008, 03:11 PM   #1
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I am offering to help eliminate webmaster sausage fests

I have had a few websites and shot content for various companies. I have always went under the radar in this business. I have sporadically attended webmaster events since 2002. I have really not needed to go to shows because I have enjoyed long term clients who gave me plenty of work. I still have those amazing relationships but for some reason I just want to get out and go to another show for the experience.

I am excited to go to the Phoenix Forum as I have never been there. I have no idea what the girl to guy ratio is at the Forum but I have seen the sausage fests of other shows and that has not exactly been an attractive feature. I know I know I know, we are there to do business not talk to models. I get the picture, ok? But let's face it, it is nice to have a few females around the parties.

Now I am am not saying this particular event is a sausage fest, perhaps there are already tons of hot models already registered. I am sure many of you are already bringing models and have had this planned for months in advance. Good for you

So what I am proposing is that I rent a big RV and invite some LA talent to ride with me to the Forum. Now, I realize that even though they are girls they will still need badges to get into the events. So perhaps a few companies want to hire them for the show or at least pay for their trip in return for some promotion. Whatever you suggest I am game.

And if you do hire them I don't see why we could not shoot some crazy pornstar road warrior content while we are driving out. It could be sex or could just be good clean fun with interviews, flashing truckers, cleaning road kill off the tires, or whatever spontaneously erupts.

BTW, I have good relationships with all the LA agents so I doubt they would have any worries about their models traveling with me.

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Old 03-07-2008, 03:20 PM   #2
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Old 03-07-2008, 03:39 PM   #3
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Will you be at the forum? You seem like a cool person
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Old 03-07-2008, 03:40 PM   #4
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Will you be at the forum? You seem like a cool person
Thanks.. I would like to, but can't this year. Americans must think im a terorist and won't give me a visa. Have to wait till Christmas to be able to get in
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Old 03-07-2008, 03:45 PM   #5
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i don't know... it just makes me shrug. importing porn models... does that really make it less of a fake, uninteresting environment?

Best way to eliminate it is to have more women woking behind the scenes in the industry. and or have the ones in-the-scenes be more active and intelligent in the business side of things.

i'm not saying it wouldn't be fun and i wouldn't appreciate it, but i'm saying you're just catering to the fat webmaster infatuated with the idea of being able to use money to get sex (i.e. sausage fest)
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Old 03-07-2008, 03:50 PM   #6
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Thanks.. I would like to, but can't this year. Americans must think im a terorist and won't give me a visa. Have to wait till Christmas to be able to get in
You are kidding ..... it's hard for Canadians to enter the US? Half of Florida's west coast is rented to Canadians each winter.
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i don't know... it just makes me shrug. importing porn models... does that really make it less of a fake, uninteresting environment?

Best way to eliminate it is to have more women woking behind the scenes in the industry. and or have the ones in-the-scenes be more active and intelligent in the business side of things.

i'm not saying it wouldn't be fun and i wouldn't appreciate it, but i'm saying you're just catering to the fat webmaster infatuated with the idea of being able to use money to get sex (i.e. sausage fest)
You have a good point Kickass Vick. But these girls are also part of the business and perhaps some program owners are looking for additional business relationsips with a few of them.
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You are kidding ..... it's hard for Canadians to enter the US? Half of Florida's west coast is rented to Canadians each winter.

I am not surprised. And don't be surprised if someday you as a US citizen cannot leave the country.

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You are kidding ..... it's hard for Canadians to enter the US? Half of Florida's west coast is rented to Canadians each winter.
yah, once you receive the citizenship
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The Lightspeed girls are there in full force and there always seems to be a lot of female talent in the PHX area.

I don't see this proposition being that big of a deal unless you had a couple Greyhound buses full of talent.

However, since TPF seems to always sell out, I doubt there would be room for them anyway.
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However, since TPF seems to always sell out, I doubt there would be room for them anyway.

Good point. I had not even thought of that.
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There is a lot more female talent at the Phoenix Forum than most shows, but still the girl to guy ratio still has to be around 6 to 1.

I think this is a great idea, I would contact the show and see if they have model badges, that let the girls go to the events at night.

I know some of the other big shows do this on the DL.
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My opinion is if their not fucking me who cares if a bunch of pretty girls are there or not. Its a business thing.
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Old 03-07-2008, 07:49 PM   #14
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My opinion is if their not fucking me who cares if a bunch of pretty girls are there or not. Its a business thing.
Ahh, but you can still do business with the regular suspects and since many of these girls are open to the idea of business relationships with top players in the business then this can provide a nice opportunity for both sides to talk face to face. This is the second I time have argued this point in this thread and worth repeating.

Plus I will be driving these girls to the show. This means that they won't be missing flights. We all know talent never misses flights.

Plus, there are some interesting content opportunities while on the road Perhaps someone would like to have their company logo plastered on the side of the bus. Perhaps we could pull into a town along the way and do a pre-arranged radio show which features your product or website.

Hey, I am am not a "big player" in this business by any stretch, however I have never had to stress about making a nice income because I have strong relationships with a few of the big guys. And I have gotten to where I am by coming up with various ideas and pitching them to people. Perhaps this idea does not come to fruition but perhaps someone contacts me with a variation of my idea and things grow from me.
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Ahh, but you can still do business with the regular suspects and since many of these girls are open to the idea of business relationships with top players in the business then this can provide a nice opportunity for both sides to talk face to face. This is the second I time have argued this point in this thread and worth repeating.

Plus I will be driving these girls to the show. This means that they won't be missing flights. We all know talent never misses flights.

Plus, there are some interesting content opportunities while on the road Perhaps someone would like to have their company logo plastered on the side of the bus. Perhaps we could pull into a town along the way and do a pre-arranged radio show which features your product or website.

Hey, I am am not a "big player" in this business by any stretch, however I have never had to stress about making a nice income because I have strong relationships with a few of the big guys. And I have gotten to where I am by coming up with various ideas and pitching them to people. Perhaps this idea does not come to fruition but perhaps someone contacts me with a variation of my idea and things grow from me.
if it works I wish you the best of luck. I dont go to the shows because Im not a party person. I dont drink and I have no patience for being the only sober person in a room.
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Perhaps we could pull into a town along the way and do a pre-arranged radio show which features your product or website.
I have to wonder if you have ever driven to PHX from LA. Not exactly a lot of towns in between. Mostly sand.
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I have to wonder if you have ever driven to PHX from LA. Not exactly a lot of towns in between. Mostly sand.

Ok thank you. Then perhaps a we hit a radio station in LA as we are leaving and one in Pheonix soon after we get there.
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rent a big RV and invite some LA talent to ride with me to the Forum.
hard to believe you have any experience with talent when you consider a plan like this.
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Sounds cool but, I shoot those girls all week long, I don't need to see any more. I am in the business for the money not the girls
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hard to believe you have any experience with talent when you consider a plan like this.
So Brian offers his negativity to the thread. Much like he offered to me a few years ago when I was a budding content shooter.

His "advice" did not apply to me as my ambitions to shoot for the top companies where more powerful than his negativity. Good thing I took his advice with a grain of salt because things worked out better than I could have imagined.

No worries though Brian, I like you and think you are a talented guy. Perhaps a bit bitter though.

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I think you'll find that the doormen wearing Lightspeed Jerseys will be very lenient about allowing hot girls into the parties without show badges.
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I think you'll find that the doormen wearing Lightspeed Jerseys will be very lenient about allowing hot girls into the parties without show badges.
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Your positive contribution to this thread has made my evening. Thank you

With that I am turning my computer off and declaring this day a success!
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These guys are idiots

Bring the girls... That way the ratio isn't 20 to 1... I would say the ratio is more like 100 to 1 as far as single girls go.

hey, a few guys might actually get some this way.
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I am not surprised. And don't be surprised if someday you as a US citizen cannot leave the country.
It's already starting. States that don't adopt the Real ID crap from the Dept. of Homeland Security and continue to issue old school driver licenses have been told that their residents will NOT be able to use their licenses for ID to get plane tickets, passports, or leave the country.
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I want to be one of the first to say - THANK YOU
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hard to believe you have any experience with talent when you consider a plan like this.
Literally, choked laughing so hard.
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Thanks.. I would like to, but can't this year. Americans must think im a terorist and won't give me a visa. Have to wait till Christmas to be able to get in
Strange.... I just went to Florida in Jan for biz and got my passport in less than a week, no problemo whatsoever. Besides these shows are just day events, even a couple days, just say your going shopping and vacationing
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Literally, choked laughing so hard.
Not trying very hard to make friends with me I see. Well I have made great strides in my abilities to tune out toxic people. I tuned out Brian and a few other pros and went on to opportunites beyond what most content shooters even dream of.

Positive thinking, passion, and dedication gets you places negativity will not even allow you to see.
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There is a lot more female talent at the Phoenix Forum than most shows, but still the girl to guy ratio still has to be around 6 to 1.

I think this is a great idea, I would contact the show and see if they have model badges, that let the girls go to the events at night.

I know some of the other big shows do this on the DL.

Are you bringing the Porno Dan and Revsand road show to TPF?
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Not trying very hard to make friends with me I see.
Your dislike of BM must have ruined your sense of humor if you did not find that comment funny.

As far as "trying to make friends" is concerned, I never gave it any thought one way or the other.
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Your dislike of BM must have ruined your sense of humor if you did not find that comment funny.

As far as "trying to make friends" is concerned, I never gave it any thought one way or the other.
Apparently I did not pick up on your intended humor. For that I apologize.

As far as BM, I do like him. And he will be getting a very generous offer from me soon. Regardless if he is receptive to it or not
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I meant his comment, not mine.
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I meant his comment, not mine.
Ok, I recognize you are a clever person
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Yes I will be coming going to the Phoenix Forum along with Akarin AKA A-Bomb, who is my partner in www.discodinero.com.

We are going to be double dipping at the show; we will be promoting our cash program and doing interviews for AEBN/Xpeeps..
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Take a look around this board. They're all fucking fags. They don't care for your chicks.
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Where are the dog pics?
Fuck teh doggies, I prefer girls who cook for me while I take pictures of their pussies. Twistys just keeps tasting better and better. Surfers sign up at http://tour.twistys.com/t1/REVS=tcst0rm/join.html
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I took this at Twistys headquarters. Nice work environment if you can get it. But I did not see this secretary being very productive in teh ways you might think.

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aaaawww, those blue collar guys get all the luck

Webmasters sign up at http://ps5.twistyscash.com/
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I remember being a 12 year old boy beating off to "those magazines". It was my dream to shoot for them when I grew up. Then came along Twistys and their amazing team. The focus of my dream changed very fast.

Thank you for the opportunity Shap, if you ever need a kidney you know who to call
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I hear a rumor that you used to post here under a different nic. If so, why the change?
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I hear a rumor that you used to post here under a different nic. If so, why the change?
Aaahh rumors, I have about as much time for them as watching soap operas.

Maybe when I wake up in the morning I scratch my ass and change my nick again. But I doubt it because I have no reason to change it.

If you must know, I changed it because I simply wanted a "nick" instead of using a proper name. Is that cool with the super yentas who are chatting on ICQ?
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Old 03-08-2008, 05:30 PM   #45
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No offence to you at all Baddog. I usually like your posts and will shake your hand at TPF.
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Old 03-08-2008, 05:32 PM   #46
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Nice offer, good luck :-)

All of our industry shows are basically sausage fest and will be that way forever.... its the way of the world. We always get some eye candy brought in and there are quite a few VERY talented females who work in this industry.

You cant really make a dent on the sausage factor - but every little bit helps.
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Old 03-08-2008, 05:38 PM   #47
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Nice offer, good luck :-)

All of our industry shows are basically sausage fest and will be that way forever.... its the way of the world. We always get some eye candy brought in and there are quite a few VERY talented females who work in this industry.

You cant really make a dent on the sausage factor - but every little bit helps.
Now there is a guy with a positive mental outlook. Thank you Chris.

I don't ask for a penny for anything I do regarding my participation at TPF. I am there to hang out with people I admire. If you want me to shoot your talent then hit me up. I am there to meet you not make petty money. After all, sharing is caring.
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Old 03-08-2008, 08:01 PM   #48
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No worries though Brian, I like you and think you are a talented guy. Perhaps a bit bitter though.
gee Greg, sorry if I ever gave you the impression I'm negative, I'm okay now... all is well and I love you too. your new stuff looks great, best wishes to you and your content production.

I still think it's a worry-some concept to pack a motor home with LA talent and drive across the dessert. be fun to shoot if you could do it though. the BTS alone would be worth all the aggravation. best of luck with that too -bmb
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Old 03-08-2008, 08:06 PM   #49
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Not trying very hard to make friends with me I see. Well I have made great strides in my abilities to tune out toxic people. I tuned out Brian and a few other pros and went on to opportunites beyond what most content shooters even dream of.

Positive thinking, passion, and dedication gets you places negativity will not even allow you to see.
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I like your attitude but... Why schlep a bunch of whores to a tradeshow? If they were local, I'd say go for it.
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Old 03-08-2008, 08:07 PM   #50
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