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BusterBunny · 05-14-2008, 07:17 PM

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SoloGirlsContent · 05-14-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx

Listen up guys..

Obama is black.. that is a big problem for him. By the way i am black and obama supporter, i support him cuz clinton is same ol clinton..

But on to my point, I have a friend in west virginia, he is white, he went to school with me.. Anyway he went to polls to vote in a small town and the people were like are you going to vote for that fckin nig****. I rather die than see a ni**** rule this country..

I think 1 out of 4 PEOPLE IN WV actually admitted race placed a factor.. The other 3/4 didnt admit but you know race was part of it. Obama will make a good president but sheesh american isnt ready to have a black president yet. Maybe they are ready for a black vice president, but the problem is all these white people cant imagine a white man on top of them.

Mccain is probably the luckiest bastard on earth. He doesnt even have to campaign in the fall. He'll have votes just because he is white. Yes people keep saying obama can unite the party, but you cant make someone who hates black like black people all of a sudden. Some people rather have a goat lead USA than a black man, thats how much they hate blacks. Ive visited states like Tennessee and i have witnessed racism first hand. You come into a store and all the white people stare at you like you just killed someone.

It sucks, the democratic party is kinda idiotic. This is your chance to take the white house and you bring out a woman and a black man as the front runners? And now the black guy will get the nomination? Eh. Well im hoping Obama wins, but like I said mccain is one lucky mofo. Ill imagine redneck racist republics will come out in MASSES just to make sure obama doesnt win. I wont be suprised if the people counting the votes in these very white racist states "fuck it up" just to make sure Obama doesnt win.

America has, and always will be a racist country. People forgot that not too long ago black people werent even considered full citizens, they had black bathroom, white bathroom, we were persecuted for no reason. Anyway, good luck. go obama 08!

I feel you and I thought that same thing myself ( I'm from a bi-racial family) from NC I grew up in racism and see it today...but if America isn't ready now...then WHEN? It's NOW or NEVER. Obama is close to this thing and I'm sure the dems will place watchdogs in all dirty districts to keep an eye out...and I'm sure some one is trying to figure out how to fuck up the voting machines, but if people come out in MASSES to vote as I suspect they will..Obama can push past and win this damn thing..don't lost hope bro, with change comes sacrifice and it won't be easy...Let us all give this brutha a chance to prove something.. ( BUSH who is white btw) FUCK THIS PLACE UP 82% of you all say that...why fuck up the future too, because you're afraid of a guy's skin tone?

I APPROVE THIS MUTHA FUCKIN MESSAGE

Libertine · 05-14-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

Well when people cant afford 400 dollars for rent, how will they come up with 400 more dollars to pay for insurance? Under her plan they will be ticketed for not being covered, then when they cannot afford that they will be jailed for not paying the ticket. It also kills alot of small biz owners who are just getting by. Just ask the people of massachusetts how they feel about it since Romney and Ted put that shit into law.

With mandatory health insurance, prices will go down. Of course, the government should also step in, and subsidize insurance for those who truly cannot afford it otherwise.

If it isn't mandatory, very little will change from the current situation.

What many Americans don't realize is just how bad the current situation is. Right now, America has the highest per capita health care costs in the world. It also has the highest rate of preventable deaths under 75 from treatable conditions of the top 20 wealthiest nations.

If America did as well as the best-performing nations (which are, of course, ones with universal health care), it would save 100000 lives a year. That's over twenty times the number of American soldiers to have died in Iraq over the past 5 years.

Obama undoubtedly knows this, too. By saying he doesn't want to make health insurance mandatory for those who can not afford it, he is effectively saying he will not make it affordable for everyone. That means the problem will not get solved. Costs will stay too high, tens of thousands of people will continue to die pointless deaths.

Obama's stance on this issue is pandering of the worst kind. He's pretending to "protect" the people who can't afford health care, but at the cost of their own lives.

notoldschool · 05-14-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

With mandatory health insurance, prices will go down. Of course, the government should also step in, and subsidize insurance for those who truly cannot afford it otherwise.

If it isn't mandatory, very little will change from the current situation.

What many Americans don't realize is just how bad the current situation is. Right now, America has the highest per capita health care costs in the world. It also has the highest rate of preventable deaths under 75 from treatable conditions of the top 20 wealthiest nations.

If America did as well as the best-performing nations (which are, of course, ones with universal health care), it would save 100000 lives a year. That's over twenty times the number of American soldiers to have died in Iraq over the past 5 years.

Obama undoubtedly knows this, too. By saying he doesn't want to make health insurance mandatory for those who can not afford it, he is effectively saying he will not make it affordable for everyone. That means the problem will not get solved. Costs will stay too high, tens of thousands of people will continue to die pointless deaths.

Obama's stance on this issue is pandering of the worst kind. He's pretending to "protect" the people who can't afford health care, but at the cost of their own lives.

Noone panders more than Clinton or Mccain.

pornask · 05-14-2008, 07:45 PM

Americans are so dumb and clueless, they seriosuly deserve Obama for president

Libertine · 05-14-2008, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

Noone panders more than Clinton or Mccain.

All politicians pander. At least, all politicians who actually get elected pander.

What troubles me is Obama's choice to use this particular issue as something to compromise on, and the way in which he does so. This particular type of pandering reduces the actual lives of people to a mere political tool.

Another good example of Obama's pandering is Iraq. Undoubtedly, the war in Iraq should never have been started the way it was started. Undoubtedly, it is of the foremost importance that US troops are pulled back - especially because they are by their mere presence fueling the fire.

However, Obama gives hard time tables for pulling back the troops. Since he does not know the future, there is a very real chance that sticking to such time tables brings the kind of instability to Iraq that could cost many thousands of Iraqi lives.

It reminds me of Bush, to whom Colbert said: "Your beliefs are the same Wednesday as they were Monday, no matter what happens on Tuesday."

Making these promises means one of three things. He is a liar, he is incapable of recognizing the possibility that something unforeseen happens, or he is someone who sticks to his plans no matter what happens - even if reality reveals his plans to be bad ones.

Since he is not an idiot, either the first or the last is true. Either he is willfully making promises he knows are ridiculous, or he is making ridiculous promises, intending to follow through on them merely for political gain.

Obama panders at least as much as the others. I hope he wins the general election (mainly because Clinton has no chance of getting the Democratic nomination), but the idea that he represents "change" from traditional politics is laughable.

GatorB · 05-14-2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SCORE-Cash

Edwards, hasn't commited. If he was going to support Obama, he needed to have done it earlier in the election where it would of counted.

Let me see instead of talking about Hillary's big victory in WV all week the pundits are talking about Edwards supporting Obama. Timing was perfect in that aspect.

GatorB · 05-14-2008, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

Well when people cant afford 400 dollars for rent, how will they come up with 400 more dollars to pay for insurance? Under her plan they will be ticketed for not being covered, then when they cannot afford that they will be jailed for not paying the ticket. It also kills alot of small biz owners who are just getting by. Just ask the people of massachusetts how they feel about it since Romney and Ted put that shit into law.

So everyone else is supposed to pick up thier medical bill? I have a friend that doesn't make a whole lot and does pay a ton in child support and claims he can't afford insurance for himself or his kids and also can't afford to put any money away for them in a college funds. Sounds reasonable considering his circumstances. BUT he CAN afford cigarettes and beer. He buys meats and cheese from the deli and buy the higher end breads and shit isntead of going for the cheaper generic versions. He buys the "name brand" clothes instead of getting the Faded Glory clothes from wal-mart. He moved last year and got place 5 miles from town and he drives a SUV. Real smart move for someone who is always broke.

So in reality he COULD afford insurance he chooses to spend his money on other things and I'm supposed to pick up the difference? He's not the only one I see tons of people in my town that get food stamps and magically have money for cigareetes and beer. If you stop smoking and drinking you'd have enough for food.

In my state you HAVE to have car insurance. So how is this different? Anyways medical saving accounts should count toward insurance and be tax deductable.

I don't if the government takes care of things like childhood immunizations or subsidzing flu shots since these things pay off.

Drake · 05-14-2008, 08:55 PM

So the ticket looks like it's either going to be:

Obama/Edwards

or

Obama/Richardson

Babaganoosh · 05-14-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

How fuckin dare you talk back to me??? Have you lost your fuckin mind boy??? What the fuck is your problem? Huh? Who in the fuck do you think you are???

You better fuckin apologize like right the fuck now!!! Right fuckin now or I am sure you are aware of the consequences

You have 20 minutes to see this and bow the fuck down

think you might want to ask around before you start moving you little gay fingers across that keyboard again...underfuckinstood????

Lick me where I pee, bitch.

videodoll · 05-14-2008, 09:35 PM

I find it funny that people are so quick to call non-obama supporters racist but they don't call the blacks who blindly support him racist. It is interesting that 90+% of blacks support Obama and that is seen as acceptable but when a small percentage of whites don't support him, they are labeled racist.

I simply don't think Obama would be a good president. I don't think McCain would either. I do however think McCain will win.

Odin · 05-14-2008, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by videodoll

I find it funny that people are so quick to call non-obama supporters racist but they don't call the blacks who blindly support him racist. It is interesting that 90+% of blacks support Obama and that is seen as acceptable but when a small percentage of whites don't support him, they are labeled racist.

I simply don't think Obama would be a good president. I don't think McCain would either. I do however think McCain will win.

The funny thing is his supporters are doing much more harm than good. If this becomes about race, he can't win. Even if someone says they won't for him because he is black his supporters would be better off ignoring it. Obviously you can't change that persons mind, so making yet another thread/conversation about Obama turn completely into race by debating that one guy is senseless. Wake up and focus on the issues, ignore the inevitable comments and focus on getting the topic off race and onto issues.

MarkTiarra · 05-14-2008, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

May I ask why?

In my mind this election was hers to loose and she started off wrong from the get go and just took nearly every wrong turn possible along the way. That alone makes me concerned with her ability to lead.

The thing that really stood out to me was how oft reported it was that her campaign was disorganized and problematic for her while his worked like a well oiled machine. Isn't the campaign organization a microcosm of running something larger and wouldn't we prefer someone who knows how to run "a well oiled machine" instead running our country?

After that of course it comes down to policy ideals and that's a different story being that I'm libertarian basically but it's an important point.

GatorB · 05-14-2008, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

So the ticket looks like it's either going to be:

Obama/Edwards

or

Obama/Richardson

While Richardson would be a good chcie to give NM tot eh dems adn perhaps help deliver Nevada and/or florida I'm not sure americans aready ready for the first black AND hispanic Prez/VP combo.

I wouldn't mind Obama/Edwards. Perhaps the best chocie at this point. Dems are notorious for fucking things up though. Obama will defiantely pick a white guy though. Edwards is probably going for the AG post in an Obama administration not VP. Sure sounded like he was the VP candidate though didn't he?

Phil · 05-14-2008, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ronbotx

Dumb & Dumber?

No. McCain

Phil · 05-14-2008, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

How fuckin dare you talk back to me??? Have you lost your fuckin mind boy??? What the fuck is your problem? Huh? Who in the fuck do you think you are???

You better fuckin apologize like right the fuck now!!! Right fuckin now or I am sure you are aware of the consequences

You have 20 minutes to see this and bow the fuck down

think you might want to ask around before you start moving you little gay fingers across that keyboard again...underfuckinstood????

You trying to conversate???

Sausage · 05-15-2008, 12:17 AM

Wow .. that reeks of a backroom deal.

Maybe thats what 'change' means .... more backroom deals and golden handshakes

You idiots deserve Obama or McCain. Both are as bad as eachother

pocketkangaroo · 05-15-2008, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Yours was noted back in 2005.

You don't really think I am shallow enough to judge anyone based on the color of their skin do you? What sealed Obama's fate was the shit his pal Rev. Jeremiah Wright spewed. The fact that Obama had attended Wright's church for years sealed his fate in my eyes. Do you really think that was the first time Wright said shit like that? For Obama to willingly continue to attend Wright's sermons for all those years and then feign outrage when Wright's comments are made public speaks volumes about him.

I take it you're also against McCain then. Considering he sought the endorsement of men who believed 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina was caused because we let gay people walk around.

All these religious guys are fucking nuts. And personally, I don't really think Obama or his wife are Christian. They're far too educated to still be believing in organized religion. Unfortunately though, you can't make it far in politics unless you pretend to be a Christian.

Which brings up something that would be interesting to see. Hook up all the Congressmen to a lie detector test and see how many of them really believe in God and how many are just bullshitting for votes.

pocketkangaroo · 05-15-2008, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

While Richardson would be a good chcie to give NM tot eh dems adn perhaps help deliver Nevada and/or florida I'm not sure americans aready ready for the first black AND hispanic Prez/VP combo.

I wouldn't mind Obama/Edwards. Perhaps the best chocie at this point. Dems are notorious for fucking things up though. Obama will defiantely pick a white guy though. Edwards is probably going for the AG post in an Obama administration not VP. Sure sounded like he was the VP candidate though didn't he?

I think Edwards would make a great AG. He'd actually do something instead of sitting on his ass and saying "I don't recall". Our justice department has turned into a laughing stock.

Obama should look at Jim Webb from Virginia. The guy is a veteran, has a son in Iraq, and worked in the Reagan administration (and received high praise from him).

potter · 05-15-2008, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CherryLipsRosa

I like her approach to issues and i like her vision on Medicare and taxes. I know she has done a few mistakes along the way but overall i just feel she can bring back stability more than him. I hope i am wrong cause we are all looking for brighter future.

Do you know she campaigned for universal health care back when hubby was prez? Did you also know, she was bought out by insurance companies to end the campaign? She had a fat check come in each year for her quitting the campaign/agenda.

Yeah, I guess she would make a great president. Her policies and morals are bought and sold by big business. Sounds right to me!

directfiesta · 05-15-2008, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx

But on to my point, I have a friend in west virginia, he is white, he went to school with me.. Anyway he went to polls to vote in a small town and the people were like are you going to vote for that fckin nig****. I rather die than see a ni**** rule this country..

I pointed that out sarcastically a few weeks ago, and it outraged most of the crowd here to the point of them calling me racist.... funny .

Americans are still racist ... they try to cover it up, hide it , but it still is in the genes... In the corporate world, non-white executives are still , behind their back, called nigg_s , cotton pickers, tacos, camel jockey and so on ...

Like the Iraquis, Americans claim that they love them, bla bla bla, freedom, bla bla bla ... but the truth is they are sand niggas to you, nothing more : sub humans ... They are there to serve you as it was .

Its all for the show and now is the time when the true colours ( sic ) comes out

So they will chose a junta supporter ( Burma ) and a corrupt politician as Mc Cain ( land deal to favor his top contributor ) even forgetting about all his flip-flops and lack of knowledge over a black because he is WHITE .

Nice.

EmpireAutopilot · 05-15-2008, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx

Listen up guys..

Obama is black.. that is a big problem for him. By the way i am black and obama supporter, i support him cuz clinton is same ol clinton..

But on to my point, I have a friend in west virginia, he is white, he went to school with me.. Anyway he went to polls to vote in a small town and the people were like are you going to vote for that fckin nig****. I rather die than see a ni**** rule this country..

I think 1 out of 4 PEOPLE IN WV actually admitted race placed a factor.. The other 3/4 didnt admit but you know race was part of it. Obama will make a good president but sheesh american isnt ready to have a black president yet. Maybe they are ready for a black vice president, but the problem is all these white people cant imagine a white man on top of them.

Mccain is probably the luckiest bastard on earth. He doesnt even have to campaign in the fall. He'll have votes just because he is white. Yes people keep saying obama can unite the party, but you cant make someone who hates black like black people all of a sudden. Some people rather have a goat lead USA than a black man, thats how much they hate blacks. Ive visited states like Tennessee and i have witnessed racism first hand. You come into a store and all the white people stare at you like you just killed someone.

It sucks, the democratic party is kinda idiotic. This is your chance to take the white house and you bring out a woman and a black man as the front runners? And now the black guy will get the nomination? Eh. Well im hoping Obama wins, but like I said mccain is one lucky mofo. Ill imagine redneck racist republics will come out in MASSES just to make sure obama doesnt win. I wont be suprised if the people counting the votes in these very white racist states "fuck it up" just to make sure Obama doesnt win.

America has, and always will be a racist country. People forgot that not too long ago black people werent even considered full citizens, they had black bathroom, white bathroom, we were persecuted for no reason. Anyway, good luck. go obama 08!

Cheer up, Obama will be the next President. What's funny is it won't even be a close race, the media just likes to make it appear so to keep you tuned in. When Obama debates McCain heads up McCain will be destroyed. All those dirty secrets will be disected 1000 times over and he will lose dramatically.

As for racists, we all know racism exists. Try to picture a white guy walking into a store in the hood. I get the same stares you do, I just don't care.

Odin · 05-15-2008, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

I pointed that out sarcastically a few weeks ago, and it outraged most of the crowd here to the point of them calling me racist.... funny .

Americans are still racist ... they try to cover it up, hide it , but it still is in the genes... In the corporate world, non-white executives are still , behind their back, called nigg_s , cotton pickers, tacos, camel jockey and so on ...

Like the Iraquis, Americans claim that they love them, bla bla bla, freedom, bla bla bla ... but the truth is they are sand niggas to you, nothing more : sub humans ... They are there to serve you as it was .

Its all for the show and now is the time when the true colours ( sic ) comes out

So they will chose a junta supporter ( Burma ) and a corrupt politician as Mc Cain ( land deal to favor his top contributor ) even forgetting about all his flip-flops and lack of knowledge over a black because he is WHITE .

Nice.

There are racists everywhere, of every race. How many ignorant black or hispanic people refer to presidential candidates as crackers and 'the man'? Whatever bullshit you come up with, there is no more excuse for them to do it, other than ignorance on their part as well. If they have legitimate issues with the policies calling them a cracker doesn't exactly achieve anything, nor does calling Obama a nigga. I wonder if you lot will still be crying if he is elected President? Oh but some people still call him a nigga! Boo fucking hoo.

Tell me how many Sunni's vote for Shia candidates in Iraq? How many Kurds voted for a Sunni there? How many Shia in Lebanon do you think vote for anyone other than Hezbollah and their allies? How many Christians there vote for 'their leaders' all the same? How many Kenyan's vote outside their tribe? How many Japanese (a perfectly advanced and Westernized nation) would vote for ANYONE other than a fellow Japanese to be leader? It's fucking EVERYWHERE, and it dies very hard.

You talk about it as if it is something exclusive to the US. Tell me why the Western world, white people exclusively are the only people capable of being racist? Or capable of being chastised for being such? It's fucking annoying when something like 50% of the country will likely still vote for a black leader that all you can do is focus on the much smaller portion who refused to simply because of their ignorance and his color.

EmpireAutopilot · 05-15-2008, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

All politicians pander. At least, all politicians who actually get elected pander.

What troubles me is Obama's choice to use this particular issue as something to compromise on, and the way in which he does so. This particular type of pandering reduces the actual lives of people to a mere political tool.

Another good example of Obama's pandering is Iraq. Undoubtedly, the war in Iraq should never have been started the way it was started. Undoubtedly, it is of the foremost importance that US troops are pulled back - especially because they are by their mere presence fueling the fire.

However, Obama gives hard time tables for pulling back the troops. Since he does not know the future, there is a very real chance that sticking to such time tables brings the kind of instability to Iraq that could cost many thousands of Iraqi lives.

It reminds me of Bush, to whom Colbert said: "Your beliefs are the same Wednesday as they were Monday, no matter what happens on Tuesday."

Making these promises means one of three things. He is a liar, he is incapable of recognizing the possibility that something unforeseen happens, or he is someone who sticks to his plans no matter what happens - even if reality reveals his plans to be bad ones.

Since he is not an idiot, either the first or the last is true. Either he is willfully making promises he knows are ridiculous, or he is making ridiculous promises, intending to follow through on them merely for political gain.

Obama panders at least as much as the others. I hope he wins the general election (mainly because Clinton has no chance of getting the Democratic nomination), but the idea that he represents "change" from traditional politics is laughable.

This post destroys your arguments. Obama has been 100% clear about the timetables and the fact that unforseen events can lead things to change.

He made it a point to note that he will give his commanders a new plan, to get us out of Iraq as safely as possible. Once they have this plan he will take their advice and suggestions on the safest way to do this into consideration and deal with problems as they arise. I understand your concerns, but to pretend he hasn't addressed them makes you sound like a neocon calling him a Muslim.

EmpireAutopilot · 05-15-2008, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

So everyone else is supposed to pick up thier medical bill? I have a friend that doesn't make a whole lot and does pay a ton in child support and claims he can't afford insurance for himself or his kids and also can't afford to put any money away for them in a college funds. Sounds reasonable considering his circumstances. BUT he CAN afford cigarettes and beer. He buys meats and cheese from the deli and buy the higher end breads and shit isntead of going for the cheaper generic versions. He buys the "name brand" clothes instead of getting the Faded Glory clothes from wal-mart. He moved last year and got place 5 miles from town and he drives a SUV. Real smart move for someone who is always broke.

So in reality he COULD afford insurance he chooses to spend his money on other things and I'm supposed to pick up the difference? He's not the only one I see tons of people in my town that get food stamps and magically have money for cigareetes and beer. If you stop smoking and drinking you'd have enough for food.

In my state you HAVE to have car insurance. So how is this different? Anyways medical saving accounts should count toward insurance and be tax deductable.

I don't if the government takes care of things like childhood immunizations or subsidzing flu shots since these things pay off.

You are right.

Fuck thy neighbor, or try to control their entire lives.

gatorB for President!

EmpireAutopilot · 05-15-2008, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sausage

Wow .. that reeks of a backroom deal.

Maybe thats what 'change' means .... more backroom deals and golden handshakes

You idiots deserve Obama or McCain. Both are as bad as eachother

You are a complete idiot for suggesting this. They are worlds apart.

EmpireAutopilot · 05-15-2008, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

I pointed that out sarcastically a few weeks ago, and it outraged most of the crowd here to the point of them calling me racist.... funny .

Americans are still racist ... they try to cover it up, hide it , but it still is in the genes... In the corporate world, non-white executives are still , behind their back, called nigg_s , cotton pickers, tacos, camel jockey and so on ...

Like the Iraquis, Americans claim that they love them, bla bla bla, freedom, bla bla bla ... but the truth is they are sand niggas to you, nothing more : sub humans ... They are there to serve you as it was .

Its all for the show and now is the time when the true colours ( sic ) comes out

So they will chose a junta supporter ( Burma ) and a corrupt politician as Mc Cain ( land deal to favor his top contributor ) even forgetting about all his flip-flops and lack of knowledge over a black because he is WHITE .

Nice.

Obama will win. If you are so sure McCain is going to beat him I'd suggest putting your money on the line at http://www.intrade.com. Obama is favored by a mile so you'll get rich proving us wrong!

Now think back 1 year. Your argument is the same one that was used when he decided to take on Hillary Clinton. Me not listening to this retarded thought process made me a fortune betting on that race and I will be betting on Obama in the general. Do you have the balls to put your money where your mouth is?

nation-x · 05-15-2008, 06:03 AM

I am a 39 year old white man with no college degree. My official stance here today will be to chastise any of the racists that have posted in this thread. As an American, I hate the fact that racism is even an issue. I stand as an example of the future and am proud of the fact that I will raise my children to reject racists as ignorant people. I have made a habit of distancing myself from people who display traits of ignorance (like racism) for years now and my life is MUCH better for it. I find that who I associate with has a huge impact on my life as a whole... so I will continue to surround myself with intelligent and open minded people.

GatorB · 05-15-2008, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by EmpireAutopilot

You are right.

Fuck thy neighbor, or try to control their entire lives.

gatorB for President!

YOU=RETARD. How am I "fucking" my neighbor? What happend of taking care of your own? why should I pay higher taxes because people CHOOSE not to buy health insurance under the guise they can't afford it and yet they drive $30,000 cars and have money for beer, cigs designer clothes, huge HDTV etc etc?

Requiring someone to take care of their family is "controlling" their lives, but somehow forcing ME to pay for their medical needs so they can live the high life isn't?

MaDalton · 05-15-2008, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

He's white.

you're asian, right?

badmunchkin · 05-15-2008, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

I never thought I would vote republican but it looks like I just might do it this time.

if you're actually saying that I guarantee you've never voted democrat in your life.

Babaganoosh · 05-15-2008, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

you're asian, right?

No, I am not asian.

Hazlewood · 05-15-2008, 07:09 AM

ron paul!!!!!

Babaganoosh · 05-15-2008, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by badmunchkin

if you're actually saying that I guarantee you've never voted democrat in your life.

I guarantee you're wrong.

MaDalton · 05-15-2008, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

No, I am not asian.

ok, then i confused you with someone else

Libertine · 05-15-2008, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by EmpireAutopilot

This post destroys your arguments. Obama has been 100% clear about the timetables and the fact that unforseen events can lead things to change.

He made it a point to note that he will give his commanders a new plan, to get us out of Iraq as safely as possible. Once they have this plan he will take their advice and suggestions on the safest way to do this into consideration and deal with problems as they arise. I understand your concerns, but to pretend he hasn't addressed them makes you sound like a neocon calling him a Muslim.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/

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"Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats; if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda." (emphasis added by me)

Note the use of the word "will", instead of alternatives such as "intends to", "aims to", "plans to", etc.

Now, for comparison:

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/Iraq/

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The most important part of Hillary's plan is the first: to end our military engagement in Iraq's civil war and immediately start bringing our troops home. As president, one of Hillary's first official actions would be to convene the Joint Chiefs of Staff, her Secretary of Defense, and her National Security Council. She would direct them to draw up a clear, viable plan to bring our troops home starting with the first 60 days of her Administration.

Both want to end the war, and pull out the troops. However, Obama makes a ridiculous promise which might prove impossible to keep, while Clinton does not.

Obama panders. It's an undeniable fact. Of course, so do Clinton and McCain, but the fact that so many people are falling for Obama's obviously misleading claim to bring change is deeply disturbing.

Obama is using "old politics" to attack "old politics". He is exploiting people's aversion of politicians exploiting issues for their own political gain for his own political gain. Certainly, this is a remarkable strategy. It borders on political genius. It also proves beyond a doubt that many voters are gullible idiots.

videodoll · 05-15-2008, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

In the corporate world, non-white executives are still , behind their back, called nigg_s , cotton pickers, tacos, camel jockey and so on ...

Sadly, the same exact stuff happens to women so it's not just blacks that get stepped on in the corporate world. I think sometimes blacks think they are the only people who have it tough. As a matter of fact, I think a black man has a better chance of getting promoted over a woman of any color. Of course, a white man would get promoted before the rest of us.

Tom_PM · 05-15-2008, 01:18 PM

Edwards who? Oh John Edwards.. I remember him. hehehe j/k

But I dont think he'd ever be VP. Speculation is he'd get Attorney General.

Richardson? What a lump. If Obama picked him for VP, I really think it'd be one of the largest bungles ever. I dont see it happening. All the guy can do is talk about his own past when he worked for Bill Clinton. He's so predictable in his self-servitude that it's just a waste of time to stick a microphone on him, let alone a VP sticker. Also it wont matter if he would help Obama win new mexico when Obama could lose a bunch of other states.

You know a lot of primaries and caucuses had already been held long before Obama ran into any troubles. Lord only knows how those would go if they all re-voted today. But thats always the case, I'm just saying.

I find it amazing how strong the more recent votes have been for Clinton. Kudo's to the lady for finishing so strong, whether it gets her anything or not remains to be seen. Then again it's not over yet is it? I know tv people and such like to say it's over. They also said it was over after super tuesday, and every day since then "when is she gonna quit?" lol. To watch american tv you'd hardly believe it was as close to a 50% to 50% race as you can get.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-15-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nation-x

I am a 39 year old white man with no college degree. My official stance here today will be to chastise any of the racists that have posted in this thread. As an American, I hate the fact that racism is even an issue. I stand as an example of the future and am proud of the fact that I will raise my children to reject racists as ignorant people. I have made a habit of distancing myself from people who display traits of ignorance (like racism) for years now and my life is MUCH better for it. I find that who I associate with has a huge impact on my life as a whole... so I will continue to surround myself with intelligent and open minded people.

This is kinda heavy if you think about it

I mean really think how much a person life changes if they remove or stay away from all the ignorant, loser type people in the world

that would be similar to eating healthy
staying away from harmful relationships and excercise....except it would be the stuff thats good for life

I applaud you

I mean that is a seriously good idea

in fact from now on... I dont give a shit if a person was my best buddy before

I will avoid ignorant people at all cost for a month as a test

very serious

completely avoid them

05-14-2008, 07:17 PM	#51
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05-14-2008, 09:35 PM	#61
videodoll Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: here and there. Posts: 196	I find it funny that people are so quick to call non-obama supporters racist but they don't call the blacks who blindly support him racist. It is interesting that 90+% of blacks support Obama and that is seen as acceptable but when a small percentage of whites don't support him, they are labeled racist. I simply don't think Obama would be a good president. I don't think McCain would either. I do however think McCain will win. __________________ www.nikki9teen.com www.amandaedge.com ICQ: 415397976

05-15-2008, 12:17 AM	#67
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05-15-2008, 07:09 AM	#83
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05-15-2008, 01:18 PM	#88
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Edwards who? Oh John Edwards.. I remember him. hehehe j/k But I dont think he'd ever be VP. Speculation is he'd get Attorney General. Richardson? What a lump. If Obama picked him for VP, I really think it'd be one of the largest bungles ever. I dont see it happening. All the guy can do is talk about his own past when he worked for Bill Clinton. He's so predictable in his self-servitude that it's just a waste of time to stick a microphone on him, let alone a VP sticker. Also it wont matter if he would help Obama win new mexico when Obama could lose a bunch of other states. You know a lot of primaries and caucuses had already been held long before Obama ran into any troubles. Lord only knows how those would go if they all re-voted today. But thats always the case, I'm just saying. I find it amazing how strong the more recent votes have been for Clinton. Kudo's to the lady for finishing so strong, whether it gets her anything or not remains to be seen. Then again it's not over yet is it? I know tv people and such like to say it's over. They also said it was over after super tuesday, and every day since then "when is she gonna quit?" lol. To watch american tv you'd hardly believe it was as close to a 50% to 50% race as you can get. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

05-14-2008, 07:45 PM	#55
pornask So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: 253-233-241 Posts: 6,518	Americans are so dumb and clueless, they seriosuly deserve Obama for president

05-14-2008, 08:55 PM	#59
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	So the ticket looks like it's either going to be: Obama/Edwards or Obama/Richardson

05-15-2008, 06:03 AM	#78
nation-x Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 5,370	I am a 39 year old white man with no college degree. My official stance here today will be to chastise any of the racists that have posted in this thread. As an American, I hate the fact that racism is even an issue. I stand as an example of the future and am proud of the fact that I will raise my children to reject racists as ignorant people. I have made a habit of distancing myself from people who display traits of ignorance (like racism) for years now and my life is MUCH better for it. I find that who I associate with has a huge impact on my life as a whole... so I will continue to surround myself with intelligent and open minded people.