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Old 07-06-2008, 08:28 PM   #51
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the jews are mostly tolerant people.

REAL muslims do not like you or your western society and want you dead.

They believe in a single world order and do not preach any kind of acceptance.

"moderate" muslims are not viewed as true muslims by the majority.

act now.

fuck anyone who does not want to conform to a culture they are joining, these people want their own mini culture inside already established societies and that is where the main problem lies.
good thing YOU'RE not falling for the propaganda, huh?
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Old 07-06-2008, 08:45 PM   #52
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good thing YOU'RE not falling for the propaganda, huh?
glad you agree with me.
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Old 07-06-2008, 10:54 PM   #53
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Kill Islam.

I got some anti Islamic shirts if ya guys want to buy them

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Let's be honest, Islam is retarded to the core. If you are Islamic go fuck yourself you are a stain and a problem to the world. Die already for fucks sakes.
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The term propaganda is being used a little to loosely, perhaps a different term would be more accurate...
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the jews are mostly tolerant people.

REAL muslims do not like you or your western society and want you dead.

They believe in a single world order and do not preach any kind of acceptance.

"moderate" muslims are not viewed as true muslims by the majority.

act now.

fuck anyone who does not want to conform to a culture they are joining, these people want their own mini culture inside already established societies and that is where the main problem lies.
ROFL
The HUGE majority of muslims are moderate muslims.
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Old 07-06-2008, 11:48 PM   #56
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the jews are mostly tolerant people.

REAL muslims do not like you or your western society and want you dead.

They believe in a single world order and do not preach any kind of acceptance.

"moderate" muslims are not viewed as true muslims by the majority.

act now.

fuck anyone who does not want to conform to a culture they are joining, these people want their own mini culture inside already established societies and that is where the main problem lies.

Right plus wasn't "the germans" but Hitler. started in 1933-45 Muslim are way in advance because it keeps on!
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In the history of Relgeons, Islam is amoung the newest. Right up there with Scientology and Mormonism ( Though Mormon is a split from Christianity ) At any rate Islam is a baby religeon that is lethal, intolorant and oppressive to it's subjects and followers.

Islam is just over 1000 years old as a religeon.
While many religeons of the world are thousands of years old.

Hell the Jewish Calandar goes back some 5000 years while Budhism 2500 or so.

But lets not discuss the older religeons that preach tolorance amoung followers of other gods. Lets focus on Islam that has zero tolorance for other religeons, lets talk about how Islam conducts female circumcision IE cutting the clit off of girls. Let's try and understand why women in Islam are less than 2nd class citizens.

There is alot to hate about Islam and the hate is with good reason. The organization is corrupt, it preaches hate and death even amoung fellow followers for example the Shia and the Sunni. If you are Islamic and you convert guess what?? You marked for death.

Why would anyone follow a religeon such as this? The answer is simple. No education. Education within Islamic countries is nearly eradicated. Thats right teachers and educators are reutinely executed or imprisoned even amoung stable Islamic countries.

One has to read about this religeon to understand its self destructive nature once ya do that the followers of this religeon are dangerous on all levels of society especially a society where Islam is not predominate.
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Old 07-06-2008, 11:57 PM   #58
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The HUGE majority of muslims are moderate muslims.
wow dude your only 2 friends are muslim and are moderate, so the rest of the world must be also? righhhhhhht.

if you think for 2 seconds they teach acceptance there is no hope for you.

who do you think the majority of muslims side with around the world?
the west or the "terrorists" do not be fooled.

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Old 07-07-2008, 12:20 AM   #59
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Shit you people are far far more gone than I even considered. I think I'm going to have to start buying some news stations myself soon
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Old 07-07-2008, 12:42 AM   #60
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Shit you people are far far more gone than I even considered. I think I'm going to have to start buying some news stations myself soon
i suggest W or Oxygen network.
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Many GFY members are calling for Jet to be banned for anti-semitism.

I guess if you wanna be fair, it's time to set up a petition against AlienQ and tahiti.
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A discussion on Islam and Jews once in a while, who gives a shit, but 10 fucking threads a day, no thanks! Get lost!
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I am just educating the facts you Islamic ass fucker.

Besides it is fair to ridicule Islam, as Islam is truly based on Hate Speech while instigating hate crimes itself. Allah is a false god.

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Why would anyone follow a religeon such as this? The answer is simple. No education.
How about people in US, Canada, UK? Are they ignorant too?

"Islam is the fastest-growing religion in the United States..." [NEW YORK TIMES, Feb 21, 1989, p.1]

"Islam is the fastest-growing religion in America, a guide and pillar of stability for many of our people..."

"Islam is the fastest-growing religion in the country." [NEWSDAY, March 7, 1989, p.4]

"Islam is the fastest growing religion in North America." [TIMES MAGAZINE]

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_th...owing_religion
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I am just educating the facts you Islamic ass fucker.

Besides it is fair to ridicule Islam, as Islam is truly based on Hate Speech while instigating hate crimes itself. Allah is a false god.

Allah is another name for God. The word God is used ineternationally in reference to what other religions call the almighty one.

Only one God but many ways to get there.

Read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God

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There are a series of familiar international muslim organizations. All of these organizations promote muslim world power policies in some way. How they relate to each other, which are the most significant, and whether there are secret connections and a central leadership, and where that leadership might be, are subordinate questions. Whether or not there is an organized muslim government recognized by all the muslims is less important that the fact that there is a unified and conscious muslim desire for world power. This is proved by a variety of political events that are taking place in plain sight today.

Sounds about right doesn't it? Replace the word muslim with jew and you have the original version again.. where do you think they are getting their material from? http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/aufkla01.htm
And what, you think either are really that wrong? I suppose it is a coincidence that Israel, against so many enemies, managed to forge itself? That AIPAC today is one of, if not the, most powerful lobby in the United States, and that the WORLDS most POWERFUL nation essentially follows the direction of Zionists when it comes to foreign policy that may affect the Zionist state (and yes that includes the war on Iraq).

I am tired of ignorant people as well who get swept up in stupid propaganda, but I am equally tired of naive leftists who assume that no-one else in the world wants or seeks power, and thus we should do next to nothing to protect the power our own societies have. For as long as recorded history can determine groups of humans fought each other for power (different tribes, different religions, different ideologies, etc), and now what you think they all gave up and now see us all as one people? Give me a break.

Of course the Jews seek (and have sought) dominance and power (and yes they wield some of it too), and of course they work together for it. And of course Muslims do the same. If the West is to survive it must do the same too, and if the civilization which we have inherited is to spread across this world and make it a better place we better protect what we have. Does that mean we need to start some ridiculous war miles away? Of course not. Does that mean at home we have to stand up for our beliefs, protect our peoples (i.e. against mass-hostile immigration) against those who would change them? Yes, but of course in a reasonable fashion.

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Makes some sense doesn't it? But of course as a self-hater you would likely agree with the West seeks power and to promote it's policies on the world (I mean it is rather obvious anyway). But of course those peace loving, kind, generous Muslims and Jews would never do such a thing would they!

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Not all retards can be educated, don't mind him. He's our resident Village Idiot.
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The germans did the same to the jews 60 years go.. wake up people.. you're eating it like candy..
You make a good point! (To some degree...)

The climate of fear has replaced the Cold War.

WE are at war with Eurasia...

WE have never been at war with Erasia...

Everybody has feeling that get hurt alll the time now.

And the puppet masters who control such politics (Started with Arafat's PLO) discoverd how to milk emotion from a barren tit.

So, they hate us and we hate them.

Without finding support for Muslims we can never hope to reach a muslim Martin Luthger King from their world.

Climate of fear and the decline of American liberties?

Part of the same ugly beast I think.

Anarchy.

A great idea if preceeeded by a cultutal revolution.

Just as long as it is secular....

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well if they are facts about the muslims then how is it propaganda?

(and i dont mean the end part of your quote i mean what i said above)

muslim culture imo IS EVIL.
not EVIL...infidels!
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60 years ago it was jews, 30 years ago it was blacks, today its the muslims.. as long as you have something to project your internal anger on you can vent.. ever tried to find the cause inside yourself?
dude where have you been for the past decades??? Islamic bombs attacks started or Massacre started almost 40 years ago. Munich 1973? Have you heard about that or history just started since 9/11???
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my girl is muslim and thinks the majority of muslim men are controlling filth, sound like most of them? sure does to me.

they are not taught acceptance they are taught their way is the RIGHT WAY, that is why if we do not do anything about the problem they will be taking over. i already hear how bad it is in europe i can only hope it does not hit here.

you cant have a sub culture that is not accepting inside another accepting culture. it does not work.
I dont think things will get like that in the US. To many people wil guns that WILL do something about it.
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wow u posted the same thing i did before me, and i didnt even read urs




bottom line... when majority of americans become fat, its not propaganda to warn ppl that they are in a society where most ppl are obese and will get heart problems

when majority of muslims have become
ANTI TOLERANT of other religions,
VIOLENT,
BELIEVE EVERYONE ELSE IS KAFIR/INFIDEL
ANNOUNCE JIHAD
BOMB PLACES in the name of ISLAM
DO THINGS FROM 1000 years ago like cover themselves up

its fuckd and they are fuckd
Notice this retard quoted and responded to ALL the posts around mine but somehow skipped responding to mine? All those fuckers need to be invited to 1 area and we can just nuke them then.
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And what, you think either are really that wrong? I suppose it is a coincidence that Israel, against so many enemies, managed to forge itself? That AIPAC today is one of, if not the, most powerful lobby in the United States, and that the WORLDS most POWERFUL nation essentially follows the direction of Zionists when it comes to foreign policy that may affect the Zionist state (and yes that includes the war on Iraq).

I am tired of ignorant people as well who get swept up in stupid propaganda, but I am equally tired of naive leftists who assume that no-one else in the world wants or seeks power, and thus we should do next to nothing to protect the power our own societies have. For as long as recorded history can determine groups of humans fought each other for power (different tribes, different religions, different ideologies, etc), and now what you think they all gave up and now see us all as one people? Give me a break.

Of course the Jews seek (and have sought) dominance and power (and yes they wield some of it too), and of course they work together for it. And of course Muslims do the same. If the West is to survive it must do the same too, and if the civilization which we have inherited is to spread across this world and make it a better place we better protect what we have. Does that mean we need to start some ridiculous war miles away? Of course not. Does that mean at home we have to stand up for our beliefs, protect our peoples (i.e. against mass-hostile immigration) against those who would change them? Yes, but of course in a reasonable fashion.

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Makes some sense doesn't it? But of course as a self-hater you would likely agree with the West seeks power and to promote it's policies on the world (I mean it is rather obvious anyway). But of course those peace loving, kind, generous Muslims and Jews would never do such a thing would they!
I'm far from leftist. I'm a libertarian, I'm pro gun, pro capitalism, and if you need to name me something it would be an anarcho-capitalist. Leave everyone alone, let the money rule, and competition will sort the rest. Government should be serving the people and not vica versa. The american government is turning into a socialist warmongering beast that's eating all your resources and causing massive inflation. I'm only mentioning this propaganda to wake people up to a small part of the whole. Although it's a pretty futile task most of the time.
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Why would anyone follow a religeon such as this? The answer is simple. No education. Education within Islamic countries is nearly eradicated. Thats right teachers and educators are reutinely executed or imprisoned even amoung stable Islamic countries..

So I'm assuming you must have had your elementary school teachers executed. It's a little like the pot calling the kettle black when you can't even spell dude!

"religeon" " amoung" "reutinely"

WTF? If you are too stupid to spell at least use Spell check.
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How about people in US, Canada, UK? Are they ignorant too?

"Islam is the fastest-growing religion in the United States..." [NEW YORK TIMES, Feb 21, 1989, p.1]

"Islam is the fastest-growing religion in America, a guide and pillar of stability for many of our people..."

"Islam is the fastest-growing religion in the country." [NEWSDAY, March 7, 1989, p.4]

"Islam is the fastest growing religion in North America." [TIMES MAGAZINE]

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_th...owing_religion
LOL, 1000's of people leave Islam everyday.
Oh also... Islam as the fastest growing Religeon is 100% false.
SEE: http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-myth...st-growing.htm

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In the first place, the truth of an idea or doctrine is never established by mere belief. Up until the last hundred years or so, the vast majority of people on our planet did not even believe that they were on a planet. Nor did they believe that the earth was spinning at a thousand miles an hour or hurtling around the sun at 67,000 miles an hour. Does this mean that the earth wasn?t doing these things up until people believed that it was?

Secondly, Islam is not "growing faster" than other religions because ?people are accepting it,? but rather because the birthrate among Muslims is significantly higher than it is among Christians and others, particularly in the West. Kids can be raised to believe in just about anything, so this hardly constitutes any sort of accomplishment.

Of the so-called ?converts? from other religions, only a miniscule number were active believers. Nearly all are really just people who had no faith to convert from ? regardless of their nominal designation. In the West and other parts of the non-Muslim world in which all religions are allowed to compete equally such people experiencing a spiritual awakening are far more likely to turn to Christianity than to Islam.

There are also some women who "marry into Islam" (a nominal change in official designation), but in terms of raw conversions, there is almost no comparison between Islam and Christianity. It is estimated that thousands of Muslims convert to Christianity each day, while only a handful of non-Muslims actually adopt Islam.

This leads to our final and most important point, which is that decent Muslims should feel a sense of embarrassment, rather than pride over the rules that they have to enforce in order to maintain Islam's status as the "fastest growing religion." In truth, it speaks more to the insecurity that Muslims have in their own religion, and the banal immaturity that Islam has compared with other faiths.

Let?s say that you are playing chess with a 6-year-old boy. Instead of following the same set of rules, however, the child is allowed to make up rules that are preferential to him. One of the rules he decides on is that you aren?t allowed to make any moves in his half of the board, but he is allowed to make moves in yours. Another might be that it is impossible for any of his pieces to be taken.

Now, if the child is winning the game ? which is assured by the conditions that he has imposed - is it really something in which he can take true pride?

The rules that Muslims impose on the ?conversion game? are almost exactly like this chess analogy. Other religions are not allowed to operate in Islam?s own territory (ie. preaching their faith and evangelizing) as Muslims are in others. Neither is conversion away from Islam allowed ? on penalty of death.

Watching Muslims gloat over being the ?fastest growing religion? is no different than watching a child delude themselves into thinking that they are smarter and better for ?beating? a much wiser adult in a game played under manufactured conditions that render the artificial ?victory? entirely meaningless.

Islam has been playing by its own rules since its inception. It is unlikely that Muslims will soon develop the confidence in their own religion (or the required social maturity) to lift the shameful restrictions to which it owes its success and risk competition with other faiths on a level playing field.

As was first mentioned, the truth of a belief or creed is never established by how many followers it has. But when a religion has to be supported by double standards and death threats, there is all the more reason to doubt its veracity.

(Note: Our article does not take issue with the claim that Islam is the fastest growing religion, not because we necessarily believe it, but because others have done a better job of refuting it. See Islam is not the Fastest Growing Religion in the World for an example.)

SEE Also: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pa...ay.htm#fastest
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Muslims :
In Denmark muslims are 10 % of the population and still
they stand for 75% of all crimes
89% of all rapes were made by muslims
100% of all gangrapes were made by muslims
1 out of 4 muslims between the age of 20-26 and been in court for a violent crime within the last year.
All young girls that have been killed in the last year have been killed by muslim males, either as "honor killings" or because their white girlfriend dumped them or simular.
(this is in Denmark only, but i doubt that its different in other countries in europe)

if you take that and also sees what those people do in the rest of the world, terror etc
i understand very well why nobody likes them.
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http://www.spiegel.de/international/...553724,00.html
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Sure but there some truths to it. For example there are muslim groups who want to be able to practice Sharia law in Canada which puts women in danger. Anyways, I don't take much seriously from someone who believes in anarchy.
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Muslims :
In Denmark muslims are 10 % of the population and still
they stand for 75% of all crimes
89% of all rapes were made by muslims
100% of all gangrapes were made by muslims
1 out of 4 muslims between the age of 20-26 and been in court for a violent crime within the last year.
All young girls that have been killed in the last year have been killed by muslim males, either as "honor killings" or because their white girlfriend dumped them or simular.
(this is in Denmark only, but i doubt that its different in other countries in europe)

if you take that and also sees what those people do in the rest of the world, terror etc
i understand very well why nobody likes them.
Those stats are incorrect.

Please remember to copy in your source. Somebody provided you with flawed info.
Please look them up in Danske Statestikker.

But they are heavily over representated, but there are many many factors of which you never even touch and for the record there are no stats on muslims per say, but just for imigrants.
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And thats what happens when Countries sympathise with blood thirsty Islamic fascists while giving them citizenship.

Poor Europe is going to get owned by the rag heads. They already stabbing Jews on the streets over there or killing innocent girls.

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Those stats are incorrect.

Please remember to copy in your source. Somebody provided you with flawed info.
Please look them up in Danske Statestikker.

But they are heavily over representated, but there are many many factors of which you never even touch and for the record there are no stats on muslims per say, but just for imigrants.
Umm for the record those are statistical facts for fucking Muslims. Check around.

It wont be long now till the Islamics start changing the laws and ultimatly cause cracks in the European governments. Can you say TaliDutchie?

Or better yet... Eurabia.

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Umm for the record those are statistical facts for fucking Muslims. Check around.
Show me those stats from Denmark

He says in Denmark this is so. I fail to see any source.

Post your source at least. I am not even considering looking at something with less credibility than Cnn. The internet is full with information to manipulate people not blessed with the ability to be critical. Typical due to poor education and poor judgement. I think it's fair to say you suffer from both.
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Show me those stats from Denmark

He says in Denmark this is so. I fail to see any source.

Post your source at least. I am not even considering looking at something with less credibility than Cnn. The internet is full with information to manipulate people not blessed with the ability to be critical. Typical due to poor education and poor judgement. I think it's fair to say you suffer from both.

Is this a good enough source of what's going on in the EU for you?

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...553724,00.html

(Not directly addressing the Danish stuff, but still...)
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Show me those stats from Denmark

He says in Denmark this is so. I fail to see any source.

Post your source at least. I am not even considering looking at something with less credibility than Cnn. The internet is full with information to manipulate people not blessed with the ability to be critical. Typical due to poor education and poor judgement. I think it's fair to say you suffer from both.

Here ya go ya Arab ass fucker.
http://www.sharia.dk/Skribenter/hede...n_denmark.html

Suck the mighty allah cock and enjoy how your religeon is murdering people all over the world ya filthy religous bitch.

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Sperbonzo my link is the offical report with links to sources

It's True, Muslims are killing people in Europe, they are changing Europe daily. But thats what happens when you bring in scum while hoping what they say about Islam is not true.

Why do you think America has immigrated only a small handful of Islamic dirt heads? Because we fucking know Islam is fucken bad for civilised society.

However just the other day some wack job islamic fuck head father killed his daughter over some pre arranged marriage shit.
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Sperbonzo my link is the offical report with links to sources

It's True, Muslims are killing people in Europe, they are changing Europe daily. But thats what happens when you bring in scum while hoping what they say about Islam is not true.

Why do you think America has immigrated only a small handful of Islamic dirt heads? Because we fucking know Islam is fucken bad for civilised society.

However just the other day some wack job islamic fuck head father killed his daughter over some pre arranged marriage shit.

from your verbiage, I think that I seem to detect a certain amount of somewhat concealed bitterness regarding this subject. Could my feelings be correct, or am I being oversensitive?



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from your verbiage, I think that I seem to detect a certain amount of somewhat concealed bitterness regarding this subject. Could my feelings be correct, or am I being oversensitive?



Well, maybe both See, many Europeans gave Americans a hard time about Islamic Immigration and how America is not allowing the Islamic dirt fucks in. Europe like America is based on the thought of Multi Cultural acceptance and diversity. I used to think that Multi Cultural was really the way to go, I myself dispised my government for not allowing in the poor war torn Islamics.

But now that I know why the American government took this stand I back it 100%.

But that does not stop many Europeans from Failing to realise just how toxic Islam is to a population. I have noticed quite so that Americans are ridiculed for many things, and much of the ridicule and negative propaganda is put forward by Islamic groups.

It's easy to hate Americans these days if you believe the Islamic Rhetoric thats for sure just check the sources when it comes to negative propaganda regarding America and in the middle of it in most cases presides an Islamic fuckhead putting out misinformation...

The EAU is responsible for most of the misinformation while propagating Jewish and Western Society misinformation while dictating strict Islamic Doctrine to impressionable children and naive followers.

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When you think about how Islam is distorting history, distorting truths, while backing terrorist groups to kill innocent people on a global scale one has to really wonder how safe they are or how close one lives to an Islamic enclave.

It's a bad day to be Islamic, but the Islamic intention is not equality or diversity. the intention is to Intimidate, Destabilise, and ultimatly remove populations that do not believe in Islam. Many Islamic Apologists will have you think Islam is a religeon of tolorance and acceptance, and that is not true whats so ever. You have to read to understand this shit. WHat the religeon says about non believers of Islam is very clear.

Death, and 2nd class citizenship to non believers. Its very very specific.
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BNP was the first to site the Islamic problem in England.

Now many other political parties in England are seeing the light.
What happened in England July 7th will happen again though I am afraid. Islamic sick fucks never stop, they will find new way's to scare the Brits into submission.
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they are not taught acceptance they are taught their way is the RIGHT WAY, that is why if we do not do anything about the problem they will be taking over. i already hear how bad it is in europe i can only hope it does not hit here.

you cant have a sub culture that is not accepting inside another accepting culture. it does not work.
sounds like every religious person to me. gay marriage? abortion? don't Christians ALSO want to dictate EVERYONES behavior based on THEIR religious views? at least the Muslims aren't arrogant enough to think that their generation knows best and CHANGE the religion to meet the days standards.
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sounds like every religious person to me. gay marriage? abortion? don't Christians ALSO want to dictate EVERYONES behavior based on THEIR religious views? at least the Muslims aren't arrogant enough to think that their generation knows best and CHANGE the religion to meet the days standards.


Uhhmmm Not true.

Christianity has tolorance to the gay community, and even abortion. However Christianity does not dictate a form of government most importantly while Islam does in regards to Sharia Law. Sharia Law is the law of the land amoung Islamic countries.

Under Islam Gay's are to be executed or imprisoned. Execution of gays in Iran occurs.
Abortion is relatively unknown concept in the Quaran however Induced abortion is generally illegal in Saudi Arabia under non-codified principles of Islamic law.

Nice attempt at trying to spin Islam into Christian Convictions but what you have said is 100% untrue. Not supporting the Idiot Christians in this but comparing the two as some sort of contrast of choice amoung non Islamic free people is absolutly ridiculous.

Under Islam you have no choice regarding your religion unless of course you like being imprisoned or executed.

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Uhhmmm Not true.

Christianity has tolorance to the gay community, and even abortion. However Christianity does not dictate a form of government most importantly while Islam does in regards to Sharia Law. Sharia Law is the law of the land amoung Islamic countries.

Under Islam Gay's are to be executed or imprisoned. Execution of gays in Iran occurs.
Abortion is relatively unknown concept in the Quaran however Induced abortion is generally illegal in Saudi Arabia under non-codified principles of Islamic law.

Nice attempt at trying to spin Islam into Christian Convictions but what you have said is 100% untrue. Not supporting the Idiot Christians in this but comparing the two as some sort of contrast of choice amoung non Islamic free people is absolutly ridiculous.

Under Islam you have no choice regarding your religion unless of course you like being imprisoned or executed.
blah blah blah. as ive already said,
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i seem to remember hearing about a thing called the "crusades" in which christians would murder muslim "infidels" as an act of penance. pretty close to what you mock the muslims for believing today, minus the virgins. muslims and christians alike believed they were fighting in gods army against satan. isnt also ironic that all those "important" differences you point to between Christians and Muslims exist TODAY because Christians AFTER THE FACT changed the relevance of the stories? stories which many believe are the word of god sent forth to instruct the "flock" on how to live and what is and isnt gods will. you know what im talking about right? the "old testament" stuff people call outdated and an unfair representation of their religion and its "tolerances". a little narcissistic arent we? so many years after the fact and here we are getting to choose what is and isnt important in the bible. or did GOD print a revision of the bible which i didnt see recanting the book of Joshua? have you even read it? this hypocrisy is however a fair representation of the average christian... an arrogant prick who enjoys picking and choosing which "moral obligations" to adhere to all the while informing you of your certain eternal damnation. sorry i cant comment further but i have Muslims to slay in my "crusades" and a witch drowning at 4.
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The Crusades was warranted. You goto know the history to form an honest opinion regarding the Crusades.

Here is why the Crusades happened in the first place...

Muslims love talking about the Crusades… and Christians love apologizing for them. To hear both parties tell the story, one would believe that Muslims were just peacefully minding their own business in lands that were legitimately Muslim, when Christian armies decided to wage holy war and "kill millions.”

The Truth:

Every part of this myth is a lie. By the rules that Muslims claim for themselves, the Crusades were perfectly justified, and the excesses (though beneath Christian standards) pale in comparison with the historical treatment of conquered populations at the hands of Muslims.

Here are some quick facts…

The first Crusade began in 1095… 460 years after the first Christian city was overrun by Muslim armies, 457 years after Jerusalem was conquered by Muslim armies, 453 years after Egypt was taken by Muslim armies, 443 after Muslims first plundered Italy, 427 years after Muslim armies first laid siege to the Christian capital of Constantinople, 380 years after Spain was conquered by Muslim armies, 363 years after France was first attacked by Muslim armies, 249 years after Rome itself was sacked by a Muslim army, and only after centuries of church burnings, killings, enslavement and forced conversions of Christians.

By the time the Crusades finally began, Muslim armies had conquered two-thirds of the Christian world.

Europe had been harassed by Muslims since the first few years following Muhammad’s death. As early as 652, Muhammad’s followers launched raids on the island of Sicily, waging a full-scale occupation 200 years later that lasted almost a century and was punctuated by massacres, such as that at the town of Castrogiovanni, in which 8,000 Christians were put to death. In 1084, ten years before the first crusade, Muslims staged another devastating Sicilian raid, burning churches in Reggio, enslaving monks and raping an abbey of nuns before carrying them into captivity.

In theory, the Crusades were provoked by the harassment of Christian pilgrims from Europe to the Holy Land, in which many were kidnapped, molested, forcibly converted to Islam or even killed. (Compare this to Islam’s justification for slaughter on the basis of Muslims being denied access to the Meccan pilgrimage in Muhammad’s time).

The Crusaders only invaded lands that were Christian. They never attacked Saudi Arabia or sacked Mecca as the Muslims had done (and continued doing) to Italy and Constantinople.

The period of Crusader “occupation” (of its own former land) was stretched over less than two centuries. The Muslim occupation is in its 1,372nd year.

The period of Crusader “aggression” compresses to about 20 years of actual military campaign, much of which was spent on organization and travel. (They were from 1098-1099, 1146-1148, 1188-1192, 1201-1204, 1218-1221, 1228-1229, and 1248-1250). By comparison, the Muslim Jihad against the island of Sicily alone lasted 75 grinding years.

Unlike Jihad, the Crusades were never justified on the basis of New Testament teachings. This is why they are an anomaly, the brief interruption of fourteen centuries of relentless Jihad against Christianity that began long before the Crusades and continued well after they were over.

The greatest crime of the Crusaders was the sacking of Jerusalem, in which 30,000 people were said to have been massacred. This number is dwarfed by the number of Jihad victims, from India to Constantinople and Narbonne, but Muslims have never apologized for their crimes and never will.

What is called 'sin and excess' by other religions, is what Islam refers to as the will of Allah.

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You make a good point! (To some degree...)

The climate of fear has replaced the Cold War.

WE are at war with Eurasia...

WE have never been at war with Erasia...

Everybody has feeling that get hurt alll the time now.

And the puppet masters who control such politics (Started with Arafat's PLO) discoverd how to milk emotion from a barren tit.

So, they hate us and we hate them.

Without finding support for Muslims we can never hope to reach a muslim Martin Luthger King from their world.

Climate of fear and the decline of American liberties?

Part of the same ugly beast I think.

Anarchy.

A great idea if preceeeded by a cultutal revolution.

Just as long as it is secular....

Happy Fucking Monday.

Where's my lithium?

Well said... or not... it does not really matter... perhaps it does... well I'll let you continue...

Had to Wikipedia Erasia... nothing small about that.
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The Crusades was warranted. You goto know the history to form an honest opinion regarding the Crusades.

Here is why the Crusades happened in the first place...

Muslims love talking about the Crusades? and Christians love apologizing for them. To hear both parties tell the story, one would believe that Muslims were just peacefully minding their own business in lands that were legitimately Muslim, when Christian armies decided to wage holy war and "kill millions.?

The Truth:

Every part of this myth is a lie. By the rules that Muslims claim for themselves, the Crusades were perfectly justified, and the excesses (though beneath Christian standards) pale in comparison with the historical treatment of conquered populations at the hands of Muslims.

Here are some quick facts?

The first Crusade began in 1095? 460 years after the first Christian city was overrun by Muslim armies, 457 years after Jerusalem was conquered by Muslim armies, 453 years after Egypt was taken by Muslim armies, 443 after Muslims first plundered Italy, 427 years after Muslim armies first laid siege to the Christian capital of Constantinople, 380 years after Spain was conquered by Muslim armies, 363 years after France was first attacked by Muslim armies, 249 years after Rome itself was sacked by a Muslim army, and only after centuries of church burnings, killings, enslavement and forced conversions of Christians.

By the time the Crusades finally began, Muslim armies had conquered two-thirds of the Christian world.

Europe had been harassed by Muslims since the first few years following Muhammad?s death. As early as 652, Muhammad?s followers launched raids on the island of Sicily, waging a full-scale occupation 200 years later that lasted almost a century and was punctuated by massacres, such as that at the town of Castrogiovanni, in which 8,000 Christians were put to death. In 1084, ten years before the first crusade, Muslims staged another devastating Sicilian raid, burning churches in Reggio, enslaving monks and raping an abbey of nuns before carrying them into captivity.

In theory, the Crusades were provoked by the harassment of Christian pilgrims from Europe to the Holy Land, in which many were kidnapped, molested, forcibly converted to Islam or even killed. (Compare this to Islam?s justification for slaughter on the basis of Muslims being denied access to the Meccan pilgrimage in Muhammad?s time).

The Crusaders only invaded lands that were Christian. They never attacked Saudi Arabia or sacked Mecca as the Muslims had done (and continued doing) to Italy and Constantinople.

The period of Crusader ?occupation? (of its own former land) was stretched over less than two centuries. The Muslim occupation is in its 1,372nd year.

The period of Crusader ?aggression? compresses to about 20 years of actual military campaign, much of which was spent on organization and travel. (They were from 1098-1099, 1146-1148, 1188-1192, 1201-1204, 1218-1221, 1228-1229, and 1248-1250). By comparison, the Muslim Jihad against the island of Sicily alone lasted 75 grinding years.

Unlike Jihad, the Crusades were never justified on the basis of New Testament teachings. This is why they are an anomaly, the brief interruption of fourteen centuries of relentless Jihad against Christianity that began long before the Crusades and continued well after they were over.

The greatest crime of the Crusaders was the sacking of Jerusalem, in which 30,000 people were said to have been massacred. This number is dwarfed by the number of Jihad victims, from India to Constantinople and Narbonne, but Muslims have never apologized for their crimes and never will.

What is called 'sin and excess' by other religions, is what Islam refers to as the will of Allah.

Wow !!!

I did not know that I did not know !
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