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Barefootsies · 11-13-2008, 04:45 PM

WASHINGTON (Fortune) -- A Congressional panel grilled five of the world's richest and most powerful hedge fund managers Thursday as lawmakers sought to understand how much blame they could assign the little-understood hedge fund industry for the global economic collapse.

The managers testifying before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform included John Paulson, George Soros, Philip Falcone, James Simons and Kenneth Griffin, a group that made on average more than $1 billion in 2007.

Committee Chairman Henry Waxman said his reasons for holding a hearing were twofold: He wanted these men, "some of the most successful and knowledgeable investors in our financial markets," to discuss how to nurse the financial system back to life. And he wanted the committee to examine how hedge funds contributed to the current financial crisis, whether they pose a systemic risk to the financial system, and how best to regulate the industry, which is now subject to very little oversight.

Noting that we are in the worst financial crisis since the 1930s, George Soros told the committee: "The salient feature of the current financial crisis is that it was not caused by some external shock... The crisis was generated by the financial system itself."

Soros' prepared testimony read very much like an advertisement for his latest book, "The New Paradigm for Financial Markets;" but on the point of how much blame hedge funds should shoulder, Soros was less explicit. He noted that while funds may have helped inflate the bubble, "the bubble has now burst and hedge funds will be decimated."

The hearing is the latest in a series held by Waxman to understand how different players contributed to the global financial collapse. While ratings agencies, bankers and regulators like Alan Greenspan have been blamed by pundits and politicians, the hedge funds have become an increasingly popular villain as the story of the crisis has unfolded because of the mystery and tremendous wealth that are the hallmarks of the industry.

But hedge fund managers have suffered along with the markets, delivering their worst-ever returns this year. The industry has shrunk from more than $2 trillion a year ago to about $1.7 trillion today. Not only have managers lost money amid the credit and equity turbulence, investors have yanked funds out of the industry in order to hold more cash or to protect themselves from further losses.

Even though hedge fund losses have been severe, the industry as a whole is outperforming the broader market. As Houman Shadab, a research fellow at George Mason University, noted in earlier testimony, the hedge fund industry as a whole is down about 15% for the year, while the S&P is down more than 30%.

While few questions were actually answered during the hearing, what was certain was that the industry will face more regulation. Moreover, this push will occur amid an economic downturn that will hit Main Street hard and likely give lawmakers populist support to impose perhaps severe limitations on hedge fund activity or higher taxes.

Massachusetts Democrat John Tierney noted that ever more average investors are exposed to hedge funds as pension funds pour money into the asset class. These investment pools will suffer the same losses as the so-called sophisticated investors (i.e. wealthy individuals and fund-of-fund managers) that hedge funds have traditionally served. Regulation, the committee agreed, will take into account this fact. To top of page

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David! · 11-13-2008, 04:46 PM

Soros is the reason Obama is President now, so no, they won't be decimated...

Supz · 11-13-2008, 04:52 PM

these guys control a good portion of the institutional capital in the world. whatever they say goes.

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collegeboobies · 11-13-2008, 06:36 PM

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SomeCreep · 11-13-2008, 07:13 PM

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Adam_M · 11-13-2008, 07:34 PM

My brother inlaw is a hedge funder, they are doing alot better then some others but times are tough for sure

GetSCORECash · 11-13-2008, 07:59 PM

anyone with some financial brain, seams to have started a hedge fund in the last couple of years. The days of working for GS, your whole life are over.

EscortBiz · 11-13-2008, 08:07 PM

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man blast in your face · 11-13-2008, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

But hedge fund managers have suffered along with the markets, delivering their worst-ever returns this year. The industry has shrunk from more than $2 trillion a year ago to about $1.7 trillion today.

HOLY ASS SHIT! ALL THE WAY DOWN FROM 2 TRILLION TO 1.7 TRILLION!!!!!
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GOD HELP US ALL!

Those fuckers.

Manowar · 11-14-2008, 12:01 AM

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11-13-2008, 04:45 PM	#1
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	'Hedge funds will be decimated' WASHINGTON (Fortune) -- A Congressional panel grilled five of the world's richest and most powerful hedge fund managers Thursday as lawmakers sought to understand how much blame they could assign the little-understood hedge fund industry for the global economic collapse. The managers testifying before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform included John Paulson, George Soros, Philip Falcone, James Simons and Kenneth Griffin, a group that made on average more than $1 billion in 2007. Committee Chairman Henry Waxman said his reasons for holding a hearing were twofold: He wanted these men, "some of the most successful and knowledgeable investors in our financial markets," to discuss how to nurse the financial system back to life. And he wanted the committee to examine how hedge funds contributed to the current financial crisis, whether they pose a systemic risk to the financial system, and how best to regulate the industry, which is now subject to very little oversight. Noting that we are in the worst financial crisis since the 1930s, George Soros told the committee: "The salient feature of the current financial crisis is that it was not caused by some external shock... The crisis was generated by the financial system itself." Soros' prepared testimony read very much like an advertisement for his latest book, "The New Paradigm for Financial Markets;" but on the point of how much blame hedge funds should shoulder, Soros was less explicit. He noted that while funds may have helped inflate the bubble, "the bubble has now burst and hedge funds will be decimated." The hearing is the latest in a series held by Waxman to understand how different players contributed to the global financial collapse. While ratings agencies, bankers and regulators like Alan Greenspan have been blamed by pundits and politicians, the hedge funds have become an increasingly popular villain as the story of the crisis has unfolded because of the mystery and tremendous wealth that are the hallmarks of the industry. But hedge fund managers have suffered along with the markets, delivering their worst-ever returns this year. The industry has shrunk from more than $2 trillion a year ago to about $1.7 trillion today. Not only have managers lost money amid the credit and equity turbulence, investors have yanked funds out of the industry in order to hold more cash or to protect themselves from further losses. Even though hedge fund losses have been severe, the industry as a whole is outperforming the broader market. As Houman Shadab, a research fellow at George Mason University, noted in earlier testimony, the hedge fund industry as a whole is down about 15% for the year, while the S&P is down more than 30%. While few questions were actually answered during the hearing, what was certain was that the industry will face more regulation. Moreover, this push will occur amid an economic downturn that will hit Main Street hard and likely give lawmakers populist support to impose perhaps severe limitations on hedge fund activity or higher taxes. Massachusetts Democrat John Tierney noted that ever more average investors are exposed to hedge funds as pension funds pour money into the asset class. These investment pools will suffer the same losses as the so-called sophisticated investors (i.e. wealthy individuals and fund-of-fund managers) that hedge funds have traditionally served. Regulation, the committee agreed, will take into account this fact. To top of page http://money.cnn.com/2008/11/13/news...dgies.fortune/ __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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