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Old 11-17-2008, 01:58 PM   #1
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FACT: Atheists are fucking idiots.

What kind of tool only believe in science?

What kind of tool believes in no God?

look around you, do you think that no greater power created the universe? how brilliant and insanely intertwined the entire universe is?

just because you have a belief does not mean you have to belong to an organized religion, i am against organized religion.

you are human, you are worthless, you do not matter in the grand scheme of things you only matter in the fact that you are connected and apart of a bigger picture in which your ego will not even let you understand until you make an attempt to let go of almost everything you were once taught and approach thinking with the fact that you truly know nothing.

that is all.
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Old 11-17-2008, 02:02 PM   #2
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Old 11-17-2008, 02:07 PM   #3
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Metaman, well said
THANK YOU

i could go on and on.

i maybe will but it depends on what time i start drinking at.

i am planning a trip to the amazon to sit with the shamans and drink the sacred brew coming up next year, i plan on opening my mind right the fuck up.
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Old 11-17-2008, 02:09 PM   #4
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THANK YOU

i could go on and on.

i maybe will but it depends on what time i start drinking at.

i am planning a trip to the amazon to sit with the shamans and drink the sacred brew coming up next year, i plan on opening my mind right the fuck up.
What is this sacred brew you speak of?
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What kind of tool only believe in science?

What kind of tool believes in no God?

look around you, do you think that no greater power created the universe? how brilliant and insanely intertwined the entire universe is?

just because you have a belief does not mean you have to belong to an organized religion, i am against organized religion.

you are human, you are worthless, you do not matter in the grand scheme of things you only matter in the fact that you are connected and apart of a bigger picture in which your ego will not even let you understand until you make an attempt to let go of almost everything you were once taught and approach thinking with the fact that you truly know nothing.

that is all.
I'll stay PC today, and just hold my tongue. :D

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Old 11-17-2008, 02:13 PM   #6
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What kind of tool only believe in science?

What kind of tool believes in no God?

look around you, do you think that no greater power created the universe? how brilliant and insanely intertwined the entire universe is?

just because you have a belief does not mean you have to belong to an organized religion, i am against organized religion.

you are human, you are worthless, you do not matter in the grand scheme of things you only matter in the fact that you are connected and apart of a bigger picture in which your ego will not even let you understand until you make an attempt to let go of almost everything you were once taught and approach thinking with the fact that you truly know nothing.

that is all.
What kind of tool believes in fairy tales? God is real? how about Santa? You can't say no because you can not prove Santa is not real. So surely Santa MUST be real. Most of the human race is akin to a 16 year old that still believes in Santa. Time to grow up. Only then will mankind truely reach greatness.
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yup and atheists tend to be even bigger sheep than Christians...
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What is this sacred brew you speak of?
Ayahuasca

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What kind of tool believes in fairy tales? God is real? how about Santa? You can't say no because you can not prove Santa is not real. So surely Santa MUST be real. Most of the human race is akin to a 16 year old that still believes in Santa. Time to grow up. Only then will mankind truely reach greatness.
God is not some magic man in the sky, God is everything, God is the earth, God is the universe, God is nature, God is even YOU, God is everything together, one big organism, you are not original you are just connected.

stop trying to explain God as one magic man.

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yup and atheists tend to be even bigger sheep than Christians...
please point where i said this? i cant tell if you are being sarcastic or not. people always have to pick a side instead of realizing that 99% of the time the truth is somewhere in the middle.
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Old 11-17-2008, 02:21 PM   #9
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I'll stay PC today, and just hold my tongue. :D
yes please stay politically correct because you are to much of a pussy to voice your opinion.

your type is another group of losers in which the reason the world is rotting.

fuck being PC, just be open minded.
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Old 11-17-2008, 02:22 PM   #11
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...just be open minded.
In a thread titled "Atheists are fucking idiots."

If you were any dumber, you'd need to be watered twice a week.
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Meta: That's fine. However most religions BELIEVE God is a magic man in the sky who spies on children in the shower.

As soon as everyone says "LOL no. God is basically a universal mother nature" then I might respect everyone who believes in it a tad more.

Until then they are gullible fucktards.
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Old 11-17-2008, 02:24 PM   #14
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In a thread titled "Atheists are fucking idiots."

If you were any dumber, you'd need to be watered twice a week.
i think they are fucking idiots but i am open to their opinion, i can sit in a room with them and have a mature open conversation.

you on the other hand are a PC pussy.

at least i have the balls to express my opinion.
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Old 11-17-2008, 02:26 PM   #15
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only ignorant people BELIEVE in theories.

support a theory = ok
conjour up a theory = ok
debate a theory = ok
have faith in a theory = ok

however,
BELIEVE in a theory = ignorant and/or gulible


Now, do you BELIEVE in God?

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Old 11-17-2008, 02:27 PM   #16
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Meta: That's fine. However most religions BELIEVE God is a magic man in the sky who spies on children in the shower.

As soon as everyone says "LOL no. God is basically a universal mother nature" then I might respect everyone who believes in it a tad more.

Until then they are gullible fucktards.
Brad i 10000000000% agree with you,

i think religion has turned people off from exploring their spirituality which i fully understand.

i do not even get the whole thing where people have to be organized to believe. i think it is a tragedy. but then again most of the stuff that goes on in this world is.
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i think they are fucking idiots but i am open to their opinion, i can sit in a room with them and have a mature open conversation.

you on the other hand are a PC pussy.

at least i have the balls to express my opinion.
Oh, I'm expressing my opinion, make no mistake about that. I just knew you would be easily provoked by my comment about being PC.

You're too easy.
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only ignorant people BELIEVE in theories.

support a theory = ok
conjour up a theory = ok
debate a theory = ok
have faith in a theory = ok

however,
BELIEVE in a theory = ignorant and/or gulible


Now, do you BELIEVE in God?
huh? how the hell does this work?

how can something be proven FACT unless it is a theory first?

only reason why people prove theories is a FACT is becuase they believe in them.
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I would have to agree with you MetaMan. Atheists don't want to believe that there is a God without proof. But how can you say that there isn't a God or higher spirit or energy or whatever without proving that there isn't?


So obviously, the only logical religious orientation is Agnostic. Neither side (believers/atheists) has proof of their claims, so therefore no one knows.
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Oh, I'm expressing my opinion, make no mistake about that. I just knew you would be easily provoked by my comment about being PC.

You're too easy.
ya ok nice backtrack fucking loser.

state your opinion or go sit in the corner. what kind of dork even jokes about being PC? o ya u.
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huh? how the hell does this work?

how can something be proven FACT unless it is a theory first?

only reason why people prove theories is a FACT is becuase they believe in them.

you should study theology, the STUDY of Theories.

having faith in a theory is how people work towards proving them to be facts. THEN you can BELIEVE in the FACT, as it's no longer a theory.
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I would have to agree with you MetaMan. Atheists don't want to believe that there is a God without proof. But how can you say that there isn't a God or higher spirit or energy or whatever without proving that there isn't?


So obviously, the only logical religious orientation is Agnostic. Neither side (believers/atheists) has proof of their claims, so therefore no one knows.
you my friend are one smart cookie, you are the exact type of person i could sit and get hammered and high as fuck and talk for hours with.
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you should study theology, the STUDY of Theories.

having faith in a theory is how people work towards proving them to be facts. THEN you can BELIEVE in the FACT, as it's no longer a theory.
ok thanks for explaining i was actually asking. this is also a good way to look at things.
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The "bigger picture humans are a part of" that you speak is nature. There is no god. God is imagined by man. I realize life is insignificant, and I do not need to delude myself into thinking there is a heaven or a hell. There is dead and alive. Welcome to life.
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Well i'm not going to get into it here BUT i will say the thing that always fucks with my head is "TIME". Time makes no sense. If time were how we describe it then when did it start? What was before time? Time is a dimension of some kind that we do not fully understand.
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Religious people are fucking idiots just as much as you think Atheists are. Of course, the religious idiots believe that there's an invisible man up in the sky watching over all of us and he will save us all.. Right! Look at the world and tell me if that's what you ? would expect from a "supreme being"? People starving, dying for nothing, violence, hatred etc.. etc.. Oh but wait... It's god's plans.. He wants us to learn on our own.. blah blah fucking blah.. Also, notice that the most judgmental people in the world are the religious ones.

I believe in ONE thing and ONE thing only... MYSELF! At least I know that I'm REAL. Being able to see something kind of adds to the credibility.
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you my friend are one smart cookie, you are the exact type of person i could sit and get hammered and high as fuck and talk for hours with.
Idiots are the ones that talk for hours, hammered or not.
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I would have to agree with you MetaMan. Atheists don't want to believe that there is a God without proof. But how can you say that there isn't a God or higher spirit or energy or whatever without proving that there isn't?
there is NO spoon!
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The "bigger picture humans are a part of" that you speak is nature. There is no god. God is imagined by man. I realize life is insignificant, and I do not need to delude myself into thinking there is a heaven or a hell. There is dead and alive. Welcome to life.
i agree with you also. MOSTLY but i believe life is very significant, but no one is more significant then another. but maybe thats i what you are trying to say.

you my friend need to read up on Ayahuasca

http://www.walrusmagazine.com/articl...asca-vision/1/
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dzKp2PeXeWI


and listen to graham hancock speak he is one of the most open and intelligent people i have ever heard speak in my life.
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ya ok nice backtrack fucking loser.

state your opinion or go sit in the corner. what kind of dork even jokes about being PC? o ya u.
Yes, I am a dork who jokes about being PC.

You however, claim to be open minded, but are all too quick to resort to name-calling; a hallmark of flawed/minimal topic knowledge.

I am not an Atheist by any measure, but I don't think they're idiots either. Some of the smartest people I know are Atheists, and their feelings with regard to religion are simply results of their own analysis of the same factors we all know about life and death.

None of us know for sure what happens when we die, so deciding you think that nothing happens is just as viable as thinking you turn into a fairy and float away to some magical realm. The only thing that's idiotic is to claim another person is idiotic for having an opinion that differs from yours regarding a question that no human being on earth really knows the answer to.
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Well i'm not going to get into it here BUT i will say the thing that always fucks with my head is "TIME". Time makes no sense. If time were how we describe it then when did it start? What was before time? Time is a dimension of some kind that we do not fully understand.
there is no such thing as time, time was "created" by man, "time" is infinite.
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Some people believe that our "creators" are coming back in the near future to kick our asses for not digging up gold for them so they can power their space ships. If you think I'm kidding look into planet Nibiru. The book they are reading it from is several thousand years older than the bible.
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I believe in ONE thing and ONE thing only... MYSELF! At least I know that I'm REAL. Being able to see something kind of adds to the credibility.
now we are talking.

there is some smart people on GFY afterall.
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I am agnostic theistic fyi

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I am agnostic theistic fyi

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i think i may be also, i dont want to say for sure i am because i know little about the topic.


https://youtube.com/watch?v=dzKp2PeXeWI


listen to graham hancock, you seem like the type of person that would be interested in his way of thinking.
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God is just a word man made up. Beliving in no god is not much different than believing in god. Its still a belief.

The main problem with using the word "god" is what we have attached to it over the years. Afterlife, pre-life, ect. If there is a "god", "gods", power or whatever you want to call it, there is no guarentee that there is still anything after this life.

I am a firm believer that we will never knew the truth, so everyone should stop worrying about it so much and take life for what it is right now.
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I would say education would be in order for anyone in this debate, but to take what multiple people wrote in a time when electricity would be considered some sort of witchcraft as scripture is a fool. Atleast there is some truth in science where there is ZERO truth in biblical scripture and most of it is made up shit to form a people and their morals.
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life is too short to set the record straight here and it serves no purpose since any Christian is raised discard anything challenging the the struggling nature of the flawed logic of the bible. Not a bad move as MetaMan here proves.

I am open to any theory but it's very hard for me to understand how a normal human beeing can be stupid enough not to understand the nature of the bible and the power of beeing able to control people like MetaMan.

IF you look at the geography of strong believers you will see that the more poverty and the less education -> the stronger religion. and THAT is actually a fact ;)
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Old 11-17-2008, 03:08 PM   #43
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Old 11-17-2008, 03:09 PM   #44
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Old 11-17-2008, 03:09 PM   #46
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I don't see the significance, benefit or utility of calling nature or everything god... Ayahuasca or not. I've experienced the interconnectedness of all things with a mind full of psilocybin but I wouldn't call that god. God is the awe of the unknown... The awe of not being able to comprehend the largeness of the universe... or a tree.. or a single cell. I don't think of that as God or Gaia any more than I think of a the line of script in Comus that keeps the good thumbs near the top a God. It's just part of a complex system. I don't see god-as-everything as any different from having a tree god and a rock god and a rain god that you sacrifice a goat to so that your crop can grow. It depends on how you define it of course. Some people just call the system Gaia.. The same way you call a terminal of the interconnectedness of air travel an airport. Others feel there is some component of worship involved.
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Old 11-17-2008, 03:10 PM   #47
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life is too short to set the record straight here and it serves no purpose since any Christian is raised discard anything challenging the the struggling nature of the flawed logic of the bible. Not a bad move as MetaMan here proves.

I am open to any theory but it's very hard for me to understand how a normal human beeing can be stupid enough not to understand the nature of the bible and the power of beeing able to control people like MetaMan.

IF you look at the geography of strong believers you will see that the more poverty and the less education -> the stronger religion. and THAT is actually a fact ;)
i am not christian

i do not believe in the bible, i believe the romans crafted the bible in a certain way to maintain power over people. thus losing its original message.

i do not even understand what you are trying to point out, it is like you read the thread title and skipped the entire content of it.
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Old 11-17-2008, 03:10 PM   #48
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please point where i said this? i cant tell if you are being sarcastic or not. people always have to pick a side instead of realizing that 99% of the time the truth is somewhere in the middle.
I was agreeing with what you said and added my 2 cents to it...
I've found that a lot of people who run around calling themselves atheists are just as sheep-ish as the Christians they love to argue with...even worse are the so-called satanists...they think by doing everything the exact opposite of Christians, they are being rebels and fail to realize Satan is a christian creation...
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Old 11-17-2008, 03:12 PM   #49
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there is no such thing as time, time was "created" by man, "time" is infinite.
When did infinity start and what was before it? Had to start sometime.
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What kind of tool believes in fairy tales? God is real? how about Santa? You can't say no because you can not prove Santa is not real. So surely Santa MUST be real. Most of the human race is akin to a 16 year old that still believes in Santa. Time to grow up. Only then will mankind truely reach greatness.
You can't see air and you know it exists.
How about history, you know that George Washington existed, but you never seen it in your entire life.
You can't see the atom but you know it exists.
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