mynameisjim

This isn't an argument over tube sites and whether they hurt business or not, or whether they are illegal or not.

What I'm curious about is the cultural impact of these tube sites. Think about it, all this access to all kinds of crazy porn. I look at (Insert illegal tube site here) and see scat videos, pissing videos, shemales, vomit videos, just about everything.

I know for a fact kids, 13,14,15 are checking out that site and many others.

Anybody think that's a bad thing?

Remember when you were a kid and found a few dirty magazines or one full movie, it would turn you into a mini pervert. Imagine finding thousands of the most hardcore videos at your fingertips when you were that age. Yikes!

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Rorschach

It's part of the ongoing degradation of society. A whole generation of teenage boys is growing up in their bedrooms, isolated from the real world and real interaction with females. Subconsciously they grow to think of all women as sluts and whores who love big cocks and only live to gratify male sexual desires.

I actually think this is a significant issue with society - millions and millions of young lads are watching hardcore pornography every day, much of it rough, violent and exploitative. When I was a boy, if you got a used copy of penthouse you'd consider yourself lucky.

The corollary is the way the media sexualizes young women these days - many of my friends' teenage daughters all dress and act like complete whores. I fear for the younger generation.

d-null

don't even blame the porn industry really, it is more a youtube and other 'mainstream' tube phenomenon, when every kid in highschool has seen 2girls1cup and made videos of each other watching it or showing it to their grandmas for a laugh (not to mention bme and goatse and all the rest)


even alot of junior high school kids know what 2girls1cup is and don't really care too much

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The Heron

Parents fault? I've surfed youtube a couple times and am amazed parents let their kids put stuff on there... I dunno how hard it would be to monitor your kids but damn they sure need it.

Sands

There are several studies that hypothesize and preliminarily support the idea that access to pornography removes the "female mystique" in the mind's of men who watch pornography, and as such, it fosters a more accepting and healthy attitude toward sex, even to the point of reducing the rate of sexual assaults in areas that have easy access to said content.

If negative attitudes toward women are on the rise, then I have grave doubts that it's because of the prevalence and availability of hardcore content. This is tantamount to assuming that there is a rise in violent crime because of an increase in the production and release of violent video games (in the face of evidence to the contrary).

doridori

correlation not equal to causation.

Grapesoda

a kid is only gonna want to see scat, piss, zoophilia etc if he/she is physiologically set up for it by environment I would think. same with hard core bondage... seen that stuff all my life and I have no interest in to this day.

Grapesoda

for my part I'm very accepting of woman after shooting for almost 8 years

Grapesoda

and the parents roll?

moeloubani

i think its BS that people are allowed to look at porn for free, I remember back in the day when i was a little guy that wanted to jerk it online I needed a credit card

So I could get pictures but other than that there was nothing...I would go to IRC and use XDCC bots to download a 20mb porn clip (there is one that i always have wanted to see again even, it was called AFTFN or something like that and it was a blonde chick being hammmmmered by a black dude in a sauna, anyone know which one it is? she made funny faces)

Now you go to youporn.com and you get whatever you want, all you have to do is click 'ENTER' as if that does ANYTHING to keep away kids

I think that the battle against tube sites won't be won by copyright stuff, DMCA is silly and it doesnt help at all, but rather there has to be a way where you have to show people's intent on looking at porn by buying it

so without buying it you haven't proven your 'intent' on viewing porn and therefore should no be allowed access to any of it

thats a fine line though between that and no porn at all, so

Sands

And rightly so since, for you, sex is not something that's mystical or unexplored. There's really nothing hidden about it after 8 years of probably the closest exposure you can get. You're habituated to it, and as such, you've been able to develop a healthy, appropriate, and rational attitude toward it.

To assume that you would develop an unhealthy attitude toward women because of this exposure, rather than because of personal hang-ups, frustrations, and negatively-defining experiences, would be fallacious.

(not lecturing you, bm, just typing for the cheap seats )

The Duck

Like someone else mentioned it is dumbing down and degrading society as a whole.

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SilentKnight

Tube sites are just the latest incarnation of easy-access opportunities for porn amongst youngsters.

It all started with BBSes...

Usenet.

IRC...

As for the sociological effect - who's to say?

klinton

interesting thread

mynameisjim

I think it comes down to exposure and susceptibility.

Think of it like drugs. Probably 30% of the population or more has a susceptibility to becoming addicted to drugs. The only thing stopping that is most people are not exposed to hard drugs so it's never an issue. As we've seen with heroin and meth in small towns, when a majority of people are exposed, the number of addicts and those who abuse skyrockets. All that is needed to trigger a problem is widespread exposure.

Now I'm not saying hardcore porn is like heroin, but clearly it can be abused and its effects can be destructive for those who abuse it. What we are seeing is everyone being exposed to the most hardcore/extreme/fetish porn ever made, being exposed at a very early age, and not having any context that there is anything wrong with it. The sites are free, they see real companies advertising on them, they are listed on Google in the top spots so there is no stigma at all. As an adult you can deal with it, but a 15 year old kid has no context to put all that stuff into perspective.

This has to be having an enormous effect on how young people are developing their attitudes towards sex, and not in a good way.

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CarlosTheGaucho

Well we all had a secret stash of magazines with nude girls, but Playboy or Penthouse magazines are probably something a bit different than watching hc gonzo on the internet. Not to mention that those were still actual magazines so you could even end up reading an interesting article.

I seriously believe that hardcore porn should really be restricted to adults or at least that you shouldn't have the access to it in a pre-pubescent age.

What will be the sociological changes?

Who knows, right now we're dealing with kids that fail at concentration, praise fake idols and many times have serious problems with discipline and manners, and their parents prefer to park them in front of a TV or PC, that is usually full of shit without any educational value, than to actualy raise them or talk to them.

One thing is for sure - free porn has probably become a regular part of a teenage lifestyle already.

I am seriously for restricted access to porn for kids. Besides the fact there is so much brutal / sick stuff out there that has nothing in common with what we all would want them to be - a healthy and balanced individual, it's also stealing a vital part of the childhood from them.

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