Who were the first TEN people in adult internet business? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

seeric · 12-17-2008, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trishauptown

Busty came up and asked me to shoot for them.....

I looked down at my chest and asked, "what's the name of your site?"

fitty.

Was it me?

lol.

Although I was with Busty-Amateurs during that time, I was not a big boobie guy.

lol.

If you're cute, you're for me! Probably me. lol.

HorseShit · 12-17-2008, 04:18 PM

LC was one of the pioneers

cj_purve · 12-17-2008, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

Where the hell is Lee Noga?

relaxing on her boat somewhere last I heard!!!

Todd has been around since pre 'websites' and is the only one I'd put in first 10 for sure ... Serge wasn't one of the first as he came in as a broker for other existing companies ... Seth was probably one of the first but not top 10 ... ron was one of the first major programs ... scott started out in 95 ... the high society crew ... Peaches was around in 95 ... Rick from Ynot ... what about a first 100?! top 10 is impossible ... how do we define when the 'internet' started?!

Far-L · 12-17-2008, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj_purve

relaxing on her boat somewhere last I heard!!!

Todd has been around since pre 'websites' and is the only one I'd put in first 10 for sure ... Serge wasn't one of the first as he came in as a broker for other existing companies ... Seth was probably one of the first but not top 10 ... ron was one of the first major programs ... scott started out in 95 ... the high society crew ... Peaches was around in 95 ... Rick from Ynot ... what about a first 100?! top 10 is impossible ... how do we define when the 'internet' started?!

We were around before anyone called it "internet" and "BBS" was the name of the game. When people would wait hours to days for stolen Playboy centerfold scans. You know. About the same time the last mastadons trudged across the tundra, mile after mile.

Marshal · 12-17-2008, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

We were around before anyone called it "internet" and "BBS" was the name of the game. When people would wait hours to days for stolen Playboy centerfold scans. You know. About the same time the last mastadons trudged across the tundra, mile after mile.

i still remember those days.

YDG · 12-17-2008, 05:28 PM

Traffic generators:

Persian Kitty
Richards-Realm
Adultbuffet

Paysites

ATK
WebsYoungestWomen (4wyw.com) (Gamma.com formally Maedae MultiMedia)
Us - TeenDreams.com (funnily enough)
Later - Karups

Programs

Xpics (who could forget!)
Click Rewards (http://www.justrawsex.com)
http://sexia.com
Tiarracorp

Webmaster Sites
jamesandvictoria.com (The Good bad and Ugly)

I have an outlook folder full of programs we joined in 96,97. Most of which no longer exist. We used to make a small fortune with them off the traffic of TeenDreams, but back then, getting paid was hit or miss. Gamma were always spot on though.

ravo · 12-17-2008, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob

We go back to 1995 for hosting and our own sites in 1996. If I remember right, it was a $100 per domain to register with internic.

Yeah, that, and dedicated servers were $2500/month.

I sold traffic to Ron Levy in 1995. Does that count?

webmasterchecks · 12-17-2008, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerCum

Not sure who were the first ten... but the first 3 were Donald Davies, Paul Baran and Leonard Kleinrock.

Without them there wouldn't be adult internet at all.

lol you dont think anyone else would have thought of it?

davecummings · 12-17-2008, 05:55 PM

Rick Muenyong, Andy Edmunds, Robbie, Jeff Miller, Brad Shaw, et al???????

Dave
Relatively new

Hollywood Horwitz · 12-17-2008, 06:03 PM

Al Gore is my guess

venus · 12-17-2008, 06:22 PM

I think it will be impossible to even try to guess who was the first adult sites on the net, there is just way to much and so many very small people/sites who came and went pretty quick.
We started by running a 4 line BBS back in 1992 (running ProBoard), somewhere around 1995 we was importing usenet to the board using GiGo (garbage in/garbage out) and offering email accounts, we started landofvenus in early summer 1997, but there was so much you never hear about any more like Cu-SeeMe, Iphone and some other video sites, jennicam, lots of people pulling child porn off usenet and making little free sites, and pulling all kinds of crap off usenet and makeing sites. There was tons of small no name webcam sites that just used ispy, which now days would not be called a site but back then was pretty cool.

cu-seeme was great for getting new members, as was usenet..not any more tho. netscape was the only browser for awhile, it was also the only one that worked with streaming video (jpeg push)... But I am pretty sure that the first sites are going to be small no name ones that no one remembers, they were probably free and voyeur or social type sites and making a book or anything else and naming anyone as the first would be an injustice to those.

SordidMedia · 12-17-2008, 06:37 PM

I guessing he would not have been one of the initial pioneers in online adult but wouldn`t Marc De deserve massive praise what with the incredible success of ARS in the late `90s?

Brujah · 12-17-2008, 06:45 PM

Andrew Conru

This doesn't start until 1997, but there should be mention of a lot of old timers in Andy's newsletters.
http://trix.sexswap.com/

FightThisPatent · 12-17-2008, 06:56 PM

Lee Noga!

Fight the memory lane!

OY · 12-17-2008, 06:59 PM

The adult INTERNET was very useless before the PROCESSORS came along - and we all know who were the first there

PS. Oh, and yeah, many of them are not here anymore but the ones with smart and good business ethics are

Grapesoda · 12-17-2008, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trishauptown

ATK was the first site I shot for in the summer of '97......

i am showing my age.....but ya'll still can sell me as a teen,,,,,

I started shooting in 2000 for atk, BTW I have a shoot for when you hit LA I think. porn.com has asked me several times to shoot you. hit me with an email when you're here and I'll check on the shoot for ya.. -bmb

jscott · 12-17-2008, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pigface

there were a lot of guys in the late 90s. 98,97 running nonude, babes, celebrity and bikini sites on geocities. Including me.. lol! I always wonder what happened to bomis.com lol i was listed there with 4 sites and the traffic coming from there was awesome.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bomis

Jimmy Wales, I was gonna say the same thing LOL.....Bomis was the bomb!!! I have like 10 Bomis tshirts around, those should be auctioned off for millions now! Since he went on to startup Wikipedia!

Redrob · 12-17-2008, 08:12 PM

I remember all the adult verification sites like AdultCheck.
Working in notepad and O'Reilly Website, later Hot Metal Pro.
Ah, those were the days.

tony286 · 12-17-2008, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches

We probably know some of the same people - I was in audiotext 1992-96. Actually I guess even before then if you include when I was working for MCI and an ATT reseller and 900 guys were some of our customers.

so that was your voice? lol

Peaches · 12-17-2008, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

so that was your voice? lol

Actually I did record several preambles both adult and non-adult ;) Nothing that was even slightly pornographic though. I refused and since we were in the same office building as a broadcasting school, we had lots of talent for really cheap when they needed porn preambles made.

When I worked directly with the audiotext company all our girls were in Canada because the laws about what they could and could not say were a lot stricter in the US. This was back in 92-94ish.

Voodoo · 12-17-2008, 08:38 PM

Igor from WatchCams / VoyeurWeb was around also.... Possibly the SexHound folks.

Peaches · 12-17-2008, 08:51 PM

RonL had one of the first live girl cams that I know of. The guy I was working for set up a sofa and a camera in the Canadian office (which was in a freaking strip mall) and IIRC, they used 900/809/etc numbers for the customers to dial in. It was so hideously jumpy due to the low baud rates that no one wanted to watch it. This was 93-94.

I also remember back in the days when DMR DIDN'T do any billing. ;)

TisMe · 12-17-2008, 09:36 PM

DMR and Sypro were my first 2 processors. Oops.

Then I found Adult Check and figured "I won't get fucked over here". Oops again.

SilentKnight · 12-17-2008, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sextoyking

We made our transition from our bbs systems to the adult net in 1994 - some basic virtual accounts - lots of biz on usenet, etc

That's roughly our time line also.

We ran KastleArchives as a BBS until the mid-90s (2 nodes running Renegade) - but we were also salting several usenet groups with our earliest content.

And yep, I still remember getting the earliest copy of Netscape from my first dialup IP provider in the late 90s...came on three 3.5 floppies

We were still manually UUencoding and decoding the binaries to/from usenet.

But we didn't start actually making money on the web until we transitioned to a paysite format in 2000.

IPK · 12-17-2008, 09:50 PM

Al Hadhazy

Nickatilynx · 12-17-2008, 10:08 PM

Pornesis Chpt1 Verse 1

In the beggining there was Ron , but he was without shape and void.

He did see Al Hadzy and in General he saw that it was good.And Ron was fantasyman and fantasyman was Ron.

And yea there did come out of the east , a man threatening to insert broomsticks in asses and Ron did look upon him and called him Serge.

And verily they did piss.

And the piss begat Scottpb and scott begat.............

Sexodudus Chapt 4 Verse 3

And yea...mmmm yea...sweet sweet yea....lines and lines of it , and piles and piles of it....but I digress...

;-))

Brujah · 12-17-2008, 10:30 PM

Nick is such a badass.

Glad he mentioned Dean Shannon.

Wagerboy · 12-17-2008, 10:46 PM

I started in I think it was 98. I didnt follow through with it, so Im a no one.

Imortyl Pussycat · 12-17-2008, 11:23 PM

i know this really cool guy that started selling content he pulled off the web in the late
80's or early 90's in his family's garage and charging about $10/month for his membership. so this dude calls himself kevin to most but don to some of us. he runs a fairly decent sized company that has had some success since those early days. what's that company again.........oh yeah, he named it "TopBucks".

Mark_E4A · 12-17-2008, 11:27 PM

My wife ( Wet Wifey ) had her first paysite up in 1996. Different domain now tho.

Barefootsies · 12-17-2008, 11:29 PM

Who gives a damn.

I wanna be one of the last ten people standing when the dust settles from 2009.

Mark_E4A · 12-17-2008, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Who gives a damn.

I wanna be one of the last ten people standing when the dust settles from 2009.

aint that the truth

EthnicLover · 12-17-2008, 11:46 PM

Damn, I can't imagine having been in this biz in the 90's. The Internet is such a baby though, all of us here are just in the beginning of this 12 or 13 year "old" business.

Drake · 12-18-2008, 02:23 AM

I wasn't there but it was our generation's gold rush

JP513 · 12-18-2008, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerCum

Not sure who were the first ten... but the first 3 were Donald Davies, Paul Baran and Leonard Kleinrock.

Without them there wouldn't be adult internet at all.

Sure there would be. Just woulda been 3 different guys. Who might or might not have done it any differently.

kektex · 12-18-2008, 08:49 AM

Bump cos I'm a history buff

sextoyking · 12-18-2008, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

Pornesis Chpt1 Verse 1

In the beggining there was Ron , but he was without shape and void.

He did see Al Hadzy and in General he saw that it was good.And Ron was fantasyman and fantasyman was Ron.

And yea there did come out of the east , a man threatening to insert broomsticks in asses and Ron did look upon him and called him Serge.

And verily they did piss.

And the piss begat Scottpb and scott begat.............

Sexodudus Chapt 4 Verse 3

And yea...mmmm yea...sweet sweet yea....lines and lines of it , and piles and piles of it....but I digress...

;-))

hahaha, good one nick

sarettah · 12-18-2008, 10:59 AM

From http://www.businessofporn.com/wiki/i...istory_Of_Porn

1st century BC

Ovid's authors The Art of Love
Karma Sutra was created

2-3 century BC

Sodom and Gomorrah the cities of sin are reportedly destroyed

1387

Geoffrey Chaucer authors The Canterbury Tales

1440

Gutenberg Press Invented

1675

Earliest example of written pornography in the English language, John Wilmot, Earl of Rochester's Sodom

1840

Burlesque shows came into existance

1850

Can-Can dance first performed

1877

Thomas Edison invented the phonograph

1884

Eadweard Muybridge motion studies featuring naked men and women

1889

Moulin Rouge opened its doors

1891

Thomas Edison invented the motion picture camera

1896

The May Irwin Kiss (Edison kinetoscope)
- First kiss on film denounced as shocking and pornographic.
-Louise Willy strips in the French film LeBain

1908

First known porn movie -
A L'Ecu d'Or ou la bonne auberge - made in France in 1908; the plot depicts a weary soldier who has a tryst with an inn's servant girl.

1910

Another very early porn movie
- Am Abend - made in Germany.
...a ten-minute film which begins with a woman masturbating alone in her bedroom, and progresses to scenes of her with a man.

1914

Hypocrites featured full female nudity

1915

A Free Ride, earliest known American stag film with explicit sex scenes

1925

Josephine Baker becomes a hit in Paris

1928

Dr. Ruth was born

1930

Hollywood established the Hays Code to set moral standards on mainstream films

1932

Strip clubs evolve out of Burlesque shows

1934

Strict enforcement of the Hays code began

1951

Smart Alec a stag film becomes an underground hit

1953

Hugh Hefner starts Playboy

1960

The first Playboy Club opens in Chicago

1964

Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart says he can't define hardcore porn - "I know it when I see it."

1965

Bob Guccione starts Penthouse

1968

Al Goldstein starts Screw Magazine

1969

First mainstream movie to represent the swinger lifestyle - Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice, Directed by Paul Mazursky

1970

Phil Harvey starts Adam & Eve
Sylvester Stallone stars in a porn film The Party at Kitty and Stud's
Notable Porn Movies - Cycle Studs - Le Salon (Gay)
Penthouse shows pubic hair for the first time

1971

First condom to appear in a movie - Carnal Knowledge, Directed by Mike Nichols
Notable Porn Movies - The Boys in the Sand - Wakefield Poole (Gay)

1972

Notable Porn Movies - Fritz the Cat - Ralph Bakshi (Anime)
Adult theaters become a common site in urban America
Woody Allen releases the movie Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex But Were Afraid To Ask
Notable Porn Movies - Deep Throat - Gerard Damiano (Straight)
Notable Porn Movies - Behind the Green Door - The Mitchell Brothers (Straight)

1974

Larry Flynt starts Hustler.

1975

Betamax introduced
First condom commercial airs on television

1976

VHS introduced

1977

Deep Throat is released on home video

1978

Larry Flynt is shot in an assassination attempt that left him paralyzed from the waist down.
Ron Jeremy starts his career by appearing in Playgirl
Ward Christensen created the CBBS Bulletin Board System along with the Xmodem protocol
Ascii art porn started being traded on BBS sites

1981

HIV/AIDS become a hot topic
Audiotext industry gets popular and phone sex is the biggest seller

1982

Playboy TV is launched

1983

Tom Jennings created the Fidonet BBS system
Name server developed at University of Wisconsin

1984

Penthouse publishes pictures of Vanessa Williams naked. She resigns her Miss America crown.
Domain Name Systems (DNS) introduced

1985

Symbolics.com is the first registered domain in history
Earliest domains to be registered - cmu.edu, purdue.edu, rice.edu, berkeley.edu, ucla.edu, rutgers.edu, bbn.com, mit.edu, think.com, css.gov, mitre.org

1986

US Attorney General Edwin Meese published 1,960 page report investigating porn at the order of President Ronald Reagan.
Traci Lords is discovered to be underage

1987

Pornstar Cicciolina elected to the Italian parliament
Spice TV is launched by Spice Entertainment

1988

Title 18 United States Code Section 2257 was enacted

1990

First commercial provider of Internet dial-up access -world.std.com

1991

The last Playboy Club closed in Manila
Pixis Interactive creates first virtual interactive porn game called Virtual Vixens.

1992

Term "Surfing the Internet" is first heard

1993

GonZo.com is registered.
John Bobbit's wife Lorena cuts his penis off. He later stars in porn video.
World Wide Web goes live.
Don't Ask Don't Tell introduced by President Bill Clinton.

1994

SexToyFun.Com an early sex toy store was opened
Bianca.com opens
Sex.com was registered by Gary Kremen
Jenna Jameson does her first adult film.
See Jenna for FREE

1995

Ricks Cabaret begins trading on Nasdaq: RICK
Gamelink.com opens
First confirmed blowjob in the White House
PersianKitty.com registered by Lewis DePayne
DMR started processing
Stockroom.com opens
Sex.com was stolen by Stephen Cohen
Internet goldrush begins

1996

XXXcounter was launched by Cybererotica
iGallery.com opens
iBill started processing
Cotac.com opens
Hitbox counter was launched by WebSideStory
AdultCheck.com opens
Pythonvideo.com opens
Paycom started processing
YnotNetwork.com opens
Naughty.com opens
Cybererotica.com opens
CarolCox.com opens
MaxCash.com opens
Domain name tv.com sold for $15,000
Epoch started processing
xPics.com opens

1997

Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee sex tape comes out
Sexplosion.com opens
ABC-web/Robin Nixon opens, launches first pop-up consoles
Andy Dunn's Sex Swap tips and trix published as online publication
DVD introduced
Domain name business.com sold for $150,000
Boogie Nights directed by Paul Thomas Anderson is nominated for three Academy Awards
CWIE/CCBill started processing
Starnet/Sex Inc started broadcasting live cams from Orange No 5 in Vancouver.
Jennicam.org opens
Whitehouse.com owned by Dan Parisi becomes a porn site
Timon creates Exit Consoles
Porncity.net opens

1998

iFriends.com opens
Condom Chronicles introduced as an early industry online publication
FTC targets xPics for defrauding customers.
Sextracker.com counter launched
Wasteland.com opens
Tommys-bookmarks.com opens
CondomProject.com, later to become Netpond.com opens
AdultFriendFinder.com opens
Python/Apollo started broadcasting live cam shows
69Spot.com, later to become xBiz.com opens
TheHun.net opens
Link-O-Rama.com opens
VoyeurDorm.com opens
Circle Jerk sites become popular
Al Goldstein installs Fuck You Finger in his backyard in Florida.
Literotica.com opens
ABC-web/Robin Nixon launches Eureka, first daily adult newsletter
Viagra introduced
PornNo.com opens
Porntrack.com counter launched
Playboy purchased Spice for $127 million 1999
TopBucks.com opens

1999

Hitbox counter stops doing business with adult sites
Domain name business.com sold for $7,500,000
SicCash.com opens
Playboy sells Hot Network to Vivid Video for $10.5 million
PlatinumBucks.com opens
AdultRevenueService.com opens
Dragon King created the first TGP2 site
CashCount.com a paying counter by Cybererotica was introduced
Napster was created by Shawn Fanning

2000

AOL goes after CEN for sending bulk mail
AEBN launched first VOD site
Al Gore claims to have invented the internet
Visa and Mastercard introduce tougher regulations and larger fines for chargebacks
DMR/Web800 dies
Jettis started processing
Sex.com was given back to Gary Kremen after a legal fight.
WEG offers free signup program
American Express stops accepting porn transactions
FreeSiteNetwork.com opens
FTC targets MaxCash/RJB Telcom over billing practices
FTC targets Crescent Publishing for defrauding customers

2001

Yahoo removes porn banners from search engine
Playboy buys Hot Network back along with two other channels, HotZone, and Vivid for $70 million.
BitTorrent was created by Bram Cohen

2003

Paypal stops processing adult transactions
Globill stops processing
CashCount.com program closed by Cybererotica
Penthouse files bankruptcy

2004

Adult film industry temporarily ceased production due to HIV
Paris Hilton sex tape comes out

2005

Video iPod introduced
Sex.com thief Stephen Cohen arrested
Myspace.com sells for $580 million
The Digital Playground film Pirates had a budget that topped $1 million

2006

Google resist court order for porn search results
Bishop starts THIS timeline on an adult industry forum
Bishop removes THIS timeline from an adult industry forum and approves it's posting on BusinessOfPorn.com
KSEXradio.com is sold to Ultimate Entertainment Group & Re-Launched
Sex.com sold for a reported $12,000,000
xPeeps was launched
PornoTube.com was launched
Playboy Acquires Club Jenna, Inc., Opens First Club in 20 Years
Adult FriendFinder discovered to use questionable Zango marketing campaigns.
Eddie Van Halen Collaborates with Michael Ninn on Sacred Sin.
Penthouse Acquires Danni dot com Properties, JKP Assets
World Modeling Closes

tony286 · 12-18-2008, 11:12 AM

Al gore didnt say he invented the net, he did help get the funding the helped create the net.

trishauptown · 12-18-2008, 11:17 AM

OH!! yea...you like the small boobies!! It was our ole' boy Jeff!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K

fitty.

Was it me?

lol.

Although I was with Busty-Amateurs during that time, I was not a big boobie guy.

lol.

If you're cute, you're for me! Probably me. lol.

raymor · 12-18-2008, 11:27 AM

A key distinction here is are we talking about the internet porn or the first
porn web site. The internet was created 1973, the web in 1990 - seventeen
years later.

I started in late 1996 or early 1997 and many of the people suggested as
firsts weren't around then, though there was an established industry. iBill
had started in 1996, but CCBill wouldn't be until 1998. As someone else
mentioned these processors were key. Before them, very adult sites
were able to get merchant accounts to process payments. Laith launched
AdultCheck in 1996, which is how most of us got paid back in the day.
I would estimate there were about 5,000 people active in the business by
early 1997.

trishauptown · 12-18-2008, 11:29 AM

Cool....myself or 3xtom will hit ya up!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by bm bradley

I started shooting in 2000 for atk, BTW I have a shoot for when you hit LA I think. porn.com has asked me several times to shoot you. hit me with an email when you're here and I'll check on the shoot for ya.. -bmb

RogerV · 12-18-2008, 11:32 AM

I got in the biz in 96 for Porn
I would say seth was the first in the US then many followed right after

Sizzle.com was the first website from canada then clublove US

the content guy · 12-18-2008, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

We were around before anyone called it "internet" and "BBS" was the name of the game. When people would wait hours to days for stolen Playboy centerfold scans. You know. About the same time the last mastadons trudged across the tundra, mile after mile.

Yeah, weren't those the good old days. I was GSM of a company that lost a $10 million judgement to Playboy for putting those scans on CD-ROM in 1992 (the judgement finalized in 1995). Lee Noga (zmaster) had her own similar problems with Playboy and her then company "Lion's Den", that's when she started doing licensed content. I followed the same path about a year later. Lived on Ynot Bob's chat board back in the later 90's.

Those were the good 'ole days. There were no set precedents for the adult shows and they got so crazy a good many spent some quality time with Vegas Metro.

In comparison, Internext feels like a Girl Scouts convention.

ahhh... memories... btw, if anyone has Lee's number please shoot me an icq, I lost track of her around 2000. It would be good to touch base with her again.

AtlantisCash · 12-18-2008, 12:22 PM

Why nobody mentioned dialers?

Klen · 12-18-2008, 01:09 PM

1993

GonZo.com is registered.
John Bobbit's wife Lorena cuts his penis off. He later stars in porn video.
World Wide Web goes live.
Don't Ask Don't Tell introduced by President Bill Clinton.
Damn i remember that cutting penis like it was yesterday.And i had only 8 years then.

sextoyking · 12-18-2008, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the content guy

Yeah, weren't those the good old days. I was GSM of a company that lost a $10 million judgement to Playboy for putting those scans on CD-ROM in 1992 (the judgement finalized in 1995). Lee Noga (zmaster) had her own similar problems with Playboy and her then company "Lion's Den", that's when she started doing licensed content. I followed the same path about a year later. Lived on Ynot Bob's chat board back in the later 90's.

Those were the good 'ole days. There were no set precedents for the adult shows and they got so crazy a good many spent some quality time with Vegas Metro.

In comparison, Internext feels like a Girl Scouts convention.

ahhh... memories... btw, if anyone has Lee's number please shoot me an icq, I lost track of her around 2000. It would be good to touch base with her again.

I think I remember some of those cdrom suits...

Before the net we were pretty big in adult cd-rom sales, distributing, etc

Some nice margins back then - damm we pushed so many units

Lee's a great person - that's how we met in like 93-95 or so - sold tons of her busty babe series - very popular. Who were you with?

do you remember Goosebump?

V_RocKs · 12-18-2008, 01:23 PM

Mr Wilson
Empty
Bangin

V_RocKs · 12-18-2008, 01:30 PM

Globill... Poor poor Globill.

NaughtyRob · 12-18-2008, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob

We go back to 1995 for hosting and our own sites in 1996. If I remember right, it was a $100 per domain to register with internic.

Sounds about right, I remember paying $70 for domains in 1999 - 2001 or so.

12-17-2008, 05:28 PM	#56
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Hollywood Horwitz Porn To ROCK! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hollywood Posts: 4,357	Al Gore is my guess __________________ Ross Horwitz Skype: RossAngeles666 Online Ad Sales / Email / Display Ads / Mobile Cell.323.949.4313 [email protected]

12-17-2008, 06:22 PM	#61
venus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Phoenix, Az Posts: 3,112	I think it will be impossible to even try to guess who was the first adult sites on the net, there is just way to much and so many very small people/sites who came and went pretty quick. We started by running a 4 line BBS back in 1992 (running ProBoard), somewhere around 1995 we was importing usenet to the board using GiGo (garbage in/garbage out) and offering email accounts, we started landofvenus in early summer 1997, but there was so much you never hear about any more like Cu-SeeMe, Iphone and some other video sites, jennicam, lots of people pulling child porn off usenet and making little free sites, and pulling all kinds of crap off usenet and makeing sites. There was tons of small no name webcam sites that just used ispy, which now days would not be called a site but back then was pretty cool. cu-seeme was great for getting new members, as was usenet..not any more tho. netscape was the only browser for awhile, it was also the only one that worked with streaming video (jpeg push)... But I am pretty sure that the first sites are going to be small no name ones that no one remembers, they were probably free and voyeur or social type sites and making a book or anything else and naming anyone as the first would be an injustice to those. __________________ Muscle/Fitness Adult Affiliate Program Since 1997 www.venuscash.com

12-17-2008, 06:45 PM	#63
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Andrew Conru This doesn't start until 1997, but there should be mention of a lot of old timers in Andy's newsletters. http://trix.sexswap.com/ __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

12-17-2008, 04:18 PM	#52
HorseShit Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,513	LC was one of the pioneers

12-17-2008, 06:37 PM	#62
SordidMedia So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: U.K Posts: 283	I guessing he would not have been one of the initial pioneers in online adult but wouldn`t Marc De deserve massive praise what with the incredible success of ARS in the late `90s?

12-17-2008, 06:56 PM	#64
FightThisPatent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,090	Lee Noga! Fight the memory lane! __________________ http://www.t3report.com (where's the traffic?) v5.0 is out! \| http://www.FightThePatent.com \| ICQ 52741957

12-17-2008, 06:59 PM	#65
OY Industry Pioneer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA/EU/ASIA Posts: 5,401	The adult INTERNET was very useless before the PROCESSORS came along - and we all know who were the first there PS. Oh, and yeah, many of them are not here anymore but the ones with smart and good business ethics are __________________ Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

12-17-2008, 08:12 PM	#68
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,790	I remember all the adult verification sites like AdultCheck. Working in notepad and O'Reilly Website, later Hot Metal Pro. Ah, those were the days.

12-17-2008, 08:38 PM	#71
Voodoo ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Porn Valley, CA Posts: 10,590	Igor from WatchCams / VoyeurWeb was around also.... Possibly the SexHound folks. __________________ "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."

12-17-2008, 08:51 PM	#72
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	RonL had one of the first live girl cams that I know of. The guy I was working for set up a sofa and a camera in the Canadian office (which was in a freaking strip mall) and IIRC, they used 900/809/etc numbers for the customers to dial in. It was so hideously jumpy due to the low baud rates that no one wanted to watch it. This was 93-94. I also remember back in the days when DMR DIDN'T do any billing. ;)

12-17-2008, 09:36 PM	#73
TisMe Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,719	DMR and Sypro were my first 2 processors. Oops. Then I found Adult Check and figured "I won't get fucked over here". Oops again.

12-17-2008, 09:50 PM	#75
IPK Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 4,209	Al Hadhazy

12-17-2008, 10:08 PM	#76
Nickatilynx Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: International Gypsy Posts: 819	Pornesis Chpt1 Verse 1 In the beggining there was Ron , but he was without shape and void. He did see Al Hadzy and in General he saw that it was good.And Ron was fantasyman and fantasyman was Ron. And yea there did come out of the east , a man threatening to insert broomsticks in asses and Ron did look upon him and called him Serge. And verily they did piss. And the piss begat Scottpb and scott begat............. Sexodudus Chapt 4 Verse 3 And yea...mmmm yea...sweet sweet yea....lines and lines of it , and piles and piles of it....but I digress... ;-)) Last edited by Nickatilynx; 12-17-2008 at 10:10 PM..

12-17-2008, 10:30 PM	#77
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Nick is such a badass. Glad he mentioned Dean Shannon. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

12-17-2008, 10:46 PM	#78
Wagerboy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,290	I started in I think it was 98. I didnt follow through with it, so Im a no one. __________________ The Main Program That Makes Me Fucking Money!! Teens Getting Pounded

12-17-2008, 11:23 PM	#79
Imortyl Pussycat Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cali Posts: 5,449	i know this really cool guy that started selling content he pulled off the web in the late 80's or early 90's in his family's garage and charging about $10/month for his membership. so this dude calls himself kevin to most but don to some of us. he runs a fairly decent sized company that has had some success since those early days. what's that company again.........oh yeah, he named it "TopBucks". __________________ Julie Larson julie {at} juicyads.com skype: imortylpussycat Buy & Sell Ads on The Most Sexy Advertising Network on the Planet available ad spots \| sign up now

12-17-2008, 11:27 PM	#80
Mark_E4A Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: pornSEO.com - Toronto Posts: 1,514	My wife ( Wet Wifey ) had her first paysite up in 1996. Different domain now tho. __________________ icq - 205700725 email - marke4a at gmail com phone - 416-809-4393

12-17-2008, 11:29 PM	#81
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	Who gives a damn. I wanna be one of the last ten people standing when the dust settles from 2009. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

12-17-2008, 11:46 PM	#83
EthnicLover Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: S. California Posts: 1,584	Damn, I can't imagine having been in this biz in the 90's. The Internet is such a baby though, all of us here are just in the beginning of this 12 or 13 year "old" business. __________________ Honest adult reviews? - Adult Reviews Ethnic paysite owners? - Get reviewed Follow me? - Twitter Porn

12-18-2008, 02:23 AM	#84
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	I wasn't there but it was our generation's gold rush

12-18-2008, 08:49 AM	#86
kektex Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: elkektex at gmail Posts: 1,813	Bump cos I'm a history buff

12-18-2008, 10:59 AM	#88
sarettah see you later, I'm gone Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,058	From http://www.businessofporn.com/wiki/i...istory_Of_Porn 1st century BC Ovid's authors The Art of Love Karma Sutra was created 2-3 century BC Sodom and Gomorrah the cities of sin are reportedly destroyed 1387 Geoffrey Chaucer authors The Canterbury Tales 1440 Gutenberg Press Invented 1675 Earliest example of written pornography in the English language, John Wilmot, Earl of Rochester's Sodom 1840 Burlesque shows came into existance 1850 Can-Can dance first performed 1877 Thomas Edison invented the phonograph 1884 Eadweard Muybridge motion studies featuring naked men and women 1889 Moulin Rouge opened its doors 1891 Thomas Edison invented the motion picture camera 1896 The May Irwin Kiss (Edison kinetoscope) - First kiss on film denounced as shocking and pornographic. -Louise Willy strips in the French film LeBain 1908 First known porn movie - A L'Ecu d'Or ou la bonne auberge - made in France in 1908; the plot depicts a weary soldier who has a tryst with an inn's servant girl. 1910 Another very early porn movie - Am Abend - made in Germany. ...a ten-minute film which begins with a woman masturbating alone in her bedroom, and progresses to scenes of her with a man. 1914 Hypocrites featured full female nudity 1915 A Free Ride, earliest known American stag film with explicit sex scenes 1925 Josephine Baker becomes a hit in Paris 1928 Dr. Ruth was born 1930 Hollywood established the Hays Code to set moral standards on mainstream films 1932 Strip clubs evolve out of Burlesque shows 1934 Strict enforcement of the Hays code began 1951 Smart Alec a stag film becomes an underground hit 1953 Hugh Hefner starts Playboy 1960 The first Playboy Club opens in Chicago 1964 Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart says he can't define hardcore porn - "I know it when I see it." 1965 Bob Guccione starts Penthouse 1968 Al Goldstein starts Screw Magazine 1969 First mainstream movie to represent the swinger lifestyle - Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice, Directed by Paul Mazursky 1970 Phil Harvey starts Adam & Eve Sylvester Stallone stars in a porn film The Party at Kitty and Stud's Notable Porn Movies - Cycle Studs - Le Salon (Gay) Penthouse shows pubic hair for the first time 1971 First condom to appear in a movie - Carnal Knowledge, Directed by Mike Nichols Notable Porn Movies - The Boys in the Sand - Wakefield Poole (Gay) 1972 Notable Porn Movies - Fritz the Cat - Ralph Bakshi (Anime) Adult theaters become a common site in urban America Woody Allen releases the movie Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex But Were Afraid To Ask Notable Porn Movies - Deep Throat - Gerard Damiano (Straight) Notable Porn Movies - Behind the Green Door - The Mitchell Brothers (Straight) 1974 Larry Flynt starts Hustler. 1975 Betamax introduced First condom commercial airs on television 1976 VHS introduced 1977 Deep Throat is released on home video 1978 Larry Flynt is shot in an assassination attempt that left him paralyzed from the waist down. Ron Jeremy starts his career by appearing in Playgirl Ward Christensen created the CBBS Bulletin Board System along with the Xmodem protocol Ascii art porn started being traded on BBS sites 1981 HIV/AIDS become a hot topic Audiotext industry gets popular and phone sex is the biggest seller 1982 Playboy TV is launched 1983 Tom Jennings created the Fidonet BBS system Name server developed at University of Wisconsin 1984 Penthouse publishes pictures of Vanessa Williams naked. She resigns her Miss America crown. Domain Name Systems (DNS) introduced 1985 Symbolics.com is the first registered domain in history Earliest domains to be registered - cmu.edu, purdue.edu, rice.edu, berkeley.edu, ucla.edu, rutgers.edu, bbn.com, mit.edu, think.com, css.gov, mitre.org 1986 US Attorney General Edwin Meese published 1,960 page report investigating porn at the order of President Ronald Reagan. Traci Lords is discovered to be underage 1987 Pornstar Cicciolina elected to the Italian parliament Spice TV is launched by Spice Entertainment 1988 Title 18 United States Code Section 2257 was enacted 1990 First commercial provider of Internet dial-up access -world.std.com 1991 The last Playboy Club closed in Manila Pixis Interactive creates first virtual interactive porn game called Virtual Vixens. 1992 Term "Surfing the Internet" is first heard 1993 GonZo.com is registered. John Bobbit's wife Lorena cuts his penis off. He later stars in porn video. World Wide Web goes live. Don't Ask Don't Tell introduced by President Bill Clinton. 1994 SexToyFun.Com an early sex toy store was opened Bianca.com opens Sex.com was registered by Gary Kremen Jenna Jameson does her first adult film. See Jenna for FREE 1995 Ricks Cabaret begins trading on Nasdaq: RICK Gamelink.com opens First confirmed blowjob in the White House PersianKitty.com registered by Lewis DePayne DMR started processing Stockroom.com opens Sex.com was stolen by Stephen Cohen Internet goldrush begins 1996 XXXcounter was launched by Cybererotica iGallery.com opens iBill started processing Cotac.com opens Hitbox counter was launched by WebSideStory AdultCheck.com opens Pythonvideo.com opens Paycom started processing YnotNetwork.com opens Naughty.com opens Cybererotica.com opens CarolCox.com opens MaxCash.com opens Domain name tv.com sold for $15,000 Epoch started processing xPics.com opens 1997 Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee sex tape comes out Sexplosion.com opens ABC-web/Robin Nixon opens, launches first pop-up consoles Andy Dunn's Sex Swap tips and trix published as online publication DVD introduced Domain name business.com sold for $150,000 Boogie Nights directed by Paul Thomas Anderson is nominated for three Academy Awards CWIE/CCBill started processing Starnet/Sex Inc started broadcasting live cams from Orange No 5 in Vancouver. Jennicam.org opens Whitehouse.com owned by Dan Parisi becomes a porn site Timon creates Exit Consoles Porncity.net opens 1998 iFriends.com opens Condom Chronicles introduced as an early industry online publication FTC targets xPics for defrauding customers. Sextracker.com counter launched Wasteland.com opens Tommys-bookmarks.com opens CondomProject.com, later to become Netpond.com opens AdultFriendFinder.com opens Python/Apollo started broadcasting live cam shows 69Spot.com, later to become xBiz.com opens TheHun.net opens Link-O-Rama.com opens VoyeurDorm.com opens Circle Jerk sites become popular Al Goldstein installs Fuck You Finger in his backyard in Florida. Literotica.com opens ABC-web/Robin Nixon launches Eureka, first daily adult newsletter Viagra introduced PornNo.com opens Porntrack.com counter launched Playboy purchased Spice for $127 million 1999 TopBucks.com opens 1999 Hitbox counter stops doing business with adult sites Domain name business.com sold for $7,500,000 SicCash.com opens Playboy sells Hot Network to Vivid Video for $10.5 million PlatinumBucks.com opens AdultRevenueService.com opens Dragon King created the first TGP2 site CashCount.com a paying counter by Cybererotica was introduced Napster was created by Shawn Fanning 2000 AOL goes after CEN for sending bulk mail AEBN launched first VOD site Al Gore claims to have invented the internet Visa and Mastercard introduce tougher regulations and larger fines for chargebacks DMR/Web800 dies Jettis started processing Sex.com was given back to Gary Kremen after a legal fight. WEG offers free signup program American Express stops accepting porn transactions FreeSiteNetwork.com opens FTC targets MaxCash/RJB Telcom over billing practices FTC targets Crescent Publishing for defrauding customers 2001 Yahoo removes porn banners from search engine Playboy buys Hot Network back along with two other channels, HotZone, and Vivid for $70 million. BitTorrent was created by Bram Cohen 2003 Paypal stops processing adult transactions Globill stops processing CashCount.com program closed by Cybererotica Penthouse files bankruptcy 2004 Adult film industry temporarily ceased production due to HIV Paris Hilton sex tape comes out 2005 Video iPod introduced Sex.com thief Stephen Cohen arrested Myspace.com sells for $580 million The Digital Playground film Pirates had a budget that topped $1 million 2006 Google resist court order for porn search results Bishop starts THIS timeline on an adult industry forum Bishop removes THIS timeline from an adult industry forum and approves it's posting on BusinessOfPorn.com KSEXradio.com is sold to Ultimate Entertainment Group & Re-Launched Sex.com sold for a reported $12,000,000 xPeeps was launched PornoTube.com was launched Playboy Acquires Club Jenna, Inc., Opens First Club in 20 Years Adult FriendFinder discovered to use questionable Zango marketing campaigns. Eddie Van Halen Collaborates with Michael Ninn on Sacred Sin. Penthouse Acquires Danni dot com Properties, JKP Assets World Modeling Closes __________________ All cookies cleared! Last edited by sarettah; 12-18-2008 at 11:02 AM..

12-18-2008, 11:12 AM	#89
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Al gore didnt say he invented the net, he did help get the funding the helped create the net.

12-18-2008, 11:27 AM	#91
raymor Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,745	A key distinction here is are we talking about the internet porn or the first porn web site. The internet was created 1973, the web in 1990 - seventeen years later. I started in late 1996 or early 1997 and many of the people suggested as firsts weren't around then, though there was an established industry. iBill had started in 1996, but CCBill wouldn't be until 1998. As someone else mentioned these processors were key. Before them, very adult sites were able to get merchant accounts to process payments. Laith launched AdultCheck in 1996, which is how most of us got paid back in the day. I would estimate there were about 5,000 people active in the business by early 1997. __________________ For historical display only. This information is not current: support@bettercgi.com ICQ 7208627 Strongbox - The next generation in site security Throttlebox - The next generation in bandwidth control Clonebox - Backup and disaster recovery on steroids

12-18-2008, 11:32 AM	#93
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	I got in the biz in 96 for Porn I would say seth was the first in the US then many followed right after Sizzle.com was the first website from canada then clublove US

12-18-2008, 12:22 PM	#95
AtlantisCash Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Istanbul - Turkiye Posts: 3,169	Why nobody mentioned dialers?

12-18-2008, 01:09 PM	#96
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	1993 GonZo.com is registered. John Bobbit's wife Lorena cuts his penis off. He later stars in porn video. World Wide Web goes live. Don't Ask Don't Tell introduced by President Bill Clinton. Damn i remember that cutting penis like it was yesterday.And i had only 8 years then.

12-18-2008, 01:23 PM	#98
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,391	Mr Wilson Empty Bangin

12-18-2008, 01:30 PM	#99
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,391	Globill... Poor poor Globill.