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Old 01-01-2009, 05:50 PM   #101
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So, if he paid me $75 for 10k of traffic, and made 5 $35 sales which equals $175, more then double what he paid, it's not a good enough test to see if it's worth continuing with? I fail to see how that's not a good enough test...


Uh, those are NOT numbers I gave you. I said $5 for 1K is too small of a test, not $75 for 10K.

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Uh, those are NOT numbers I gave you. I said $5 for 1K is too small of a test, not $75 for 10K.

DO NOT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH!... thanks ;-)
Yeah, and at $5/k you get at least 1 sale out of it for $35, isn't that a great ROI wanting you to buy more? I'm pretty sure you understand that because you know your traffic, it's better then traffic brokers, so I figured you'd at least understand you don't need 100k of traffic to gauge if it's good enough to buy more.
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Yeah, and at $5/k you get at least 1 sale out of it for $35, isn't that a great ROI wanting you to buy more? I'm pretty sure you understand that because you know your traffic, it's better then traffic brokers, so I figured you'd at least understand you don't need 100k of traffic to gauge if it's good enough to buy more.

How do you know you'll get a sale?! All that you're saying is hypothetical with no proof of actually numbers.

I tell people a good way to test a traffic source is to spend the amount you'd expect to get from two sales. So if you get $100 for two sales, then spend atleast $100 to test the traffic.

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How do you know you'll get a sale?! All that you're saying is hypothetical with no proof of actually numbers.

I tell people a good way to test a traffic source is to spend the amount you'd expect to get from two sales. So if you get $100 for two sales, then spend atleast $100 to test the traffic.
Because I've had 5 sales and 2 rebills from 48 raw hits...
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thats good, you can pay Sherm back now..
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Josh hit me up about this bud.
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Because I've had 5 sales and 2 rebills from 48 raw hits...


And the traffic source? And what site did you send the traffic to? You're not going to get those types of result with all sites you buy traffic from. I still by my answer that $5 for 1k is not a good test.

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What does the price have to do with anything?
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traffic that is for sale will not convert anything end of story
In my first experiment with buying traffic, I bid for fat chicks on overture and sent it to a pps program. It was a long time ago, but... $1 in traffic later, I made a $25 sale. New and stupid, I thought, this must be good, $300 in traffic later I still had the one single solitary sale. Sponsor probably made some cash from exit consoles, I felt like I got fucked, that's a lot of money especially when you're just starting out, but it was my own fault. Haven't bought traffic since.

I admire anyone who can buy traffic, especially junk traffic like popunders on font sites, and turn a nice profit. If only it were so easy for me, I'd be buying all the traffic I could get my hands on. It seems to be hit and miss for most people, either you turn a profit or not, hit and miss, but I'd seriously take anyone who can turn a profit consistently on purchased traffic from different sources by sending it to sponsors or their own sites (not just by reselling it straight at $1 per 10,000 uniques) and worship them as a fucking god.
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Was wondering the same thing myself.
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i'll hit u up tmr retox josh, hands full today with some other work.
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i will also try out joestraffic, right after josh.....

hope joestraffic accept paypal

10,000 CLICKS FOR $100
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Price alone... nothing. It's all about what you get. Or do you prefer to get nothing?

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Looking up i see,

Hows the experement? I would love to see these results.

In my traffic buying vs. not bothering, here are my findings.

I have a tgp, all bought traffic, in 2008 yeilded 1:1,292. Not great, and split amongst 4 different programs.

I also have a tgp that I send zero bought or brokered traffic. it went 1:402 in 2008. All se traffic or straight type in / bookmark. Also split amongst the same 4 programs. In fact its the same page content-wise, url is different on both. (that was my 2008 experiment.)

I have come to the conclusion that buying traffic is as effective as buying used diapers.

This is however, just my experience, and it dosent mean shit. Maybe if I was running a fucking tube (all the fucking theives seem to be doing alright.......) I would have done better but......honesty has it drawbacks, I suppose.
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In my traffic buying vs. not bothering, here are my findings.

I have a tgp, all bought traffic, in 2008 yeilded 1:1,292. Not great, and split amongst 4 different programs.

I also have a tgp that I send zero bought or brokered traffic. it went 1:402 in 2008. All se traffic or straight type in / bookmark. Also split amongst the same 4 programs. In fact its the same page content-wise, url is different on both. (that was my 2008 experiment.)

I have come to the conclusion that buying traffic is as effective as buying used diapers.
How did the actual sales amounts compare? Better conversions are pointless if you only have a dribble of your own traffic when compared to purchased. If you have a positive ROI from a good traffic source with sufficient volume you'll make more money at the end of the day...
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Great thread guys.

I just contacted Joe at Joe's Traffic.

Am looking for a way to contact both Retox Josh and DamageX.

Could you guys either contact me or someone drop me their emails or ICQ?

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Great thread guys.

I just contacted Joe at Joe's Traffic.

Am looking for a way to contact both Retox Josh and DamageX.

Could you guys either contact me or someone drop me their emails or ICQ?

Cheers.
I sent you a message on ICQ. In case you don't get it, my ICQ is 1566665.
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its funny that this thread got so many replies

anyway, how did this test go? any sales at all?
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Great thread guys.

I just contacted Joe at Joe's Traffic.

Am looking for a way to contact both Retox Josh and DamageX.

Could you guys either contact me or someone drop me their emails or ICQ?

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I don't have any more traffic for sale.
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Id be interested in knowing more detail on what kind of sites (tgp, gallery, free sites, etc) or types of programs you are pushing, such as niche or general traffic.

I was just going through my numbers yesterday for the year and I looked at bought traffic and my ratio was about 1:1.2 which is the worst its been by far, so much so that I canned the process. The last few months its been about 1:1 across the board from plain old hardcore to micro niche sites.

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BOUGHT TRAFFIC DID NOT CONVERT!

the only bought traffic is gallys.....its FHG.



the rest is non-bought traffic.


poor conversion in general.

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It's always good to see when a program's reps know the industry.

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yea but it wasn't from the bought traffic.
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okay so traffic for retox josh resulted in 2 dollars. i guess thats negative ROI of like 1800%. this is not a smear on his name, i just want to point out that yes, this doesn't convert. i hope you do not mistake it with him being scammer or anything like that. i have no complaints, he delivered whatever i expected.

i'll post up the final fling stats that comes from youjav.com alone which was far more successful then the purchased traffic. might not be as baller as all the other guy's stats.

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You try to convert traffic on a poor site with illegal videos that are so long people wouldnt need to buy or have the urge to buy anything. Give it a rest, move one, get a job at kentucky fried chicken.

You dont have a clue.
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How did the actual sales amounts compare? Better conversions are pointless if you only have a dribble of your own traffic when compared to purchased. If you have a positive ROI from a good traffic source with sufficient volume you'll make more money at the end of the day...
I'm sorry I missed this rowan, so far as traffic went between the two if them it was a trickle compared to a stream. In the end the site I bought traffic for made more money, but I was impressed to see how well the site without the bought traffic did. That site cost me $15 and thats basicly it. The turnover was pretty nice for a $15 investment. it gave me a really good idea for this year.

Some people just have the touch when it comes to buying traffic that will convert, and making it convert well. I dont have such great luck, but I always seem to pull out what i'm put in. I do however understand the importance of buying traffic, and will continue to do so in the future, I will just be doing a few small things different.
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Old 02-01-2009, 03:43 AM   #150
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The $5/K you keep yapping about.
I didn't say anything about the price. Keep up.
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