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Rice_Master · 02-25-2009, 02:51 PM

Today nichecaslte announced the same payout structure as archivecash which are known for their shaddy cross sales and banging cards.

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NicheCastle is proud to announce a couple of great changes for affiliates.
First, we now have PPS options available for all of our sites that allows
you to earn up to $45 per join.

The customers for the NicheCastle sites are being billed by the domain
Wsupportage.com which is hosted on a server in Ukraine with the ip 76.9.16.165

http://whois.domaintools.com/wsupportage.com

The customers for the TrannyPay (same company as archivecash) are being billed by the domain pursache-24.com which is hosted on the same server and ip as WSupportage.

http://whois.domaintools.com/purchase-24.com

Also for all the type-in traffic going to the nichecastle and trannypay sites you get the same popup.

NC - http://youngasiantrannies.com
TP - http://www.ladyboydolls.com

Did I also mention that NicheCastle and TrannyPay also has the same shaddy cross sales under the submit button and with the cross sale description way way down in the bottom written out in text.

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Here you can read about them banging cards.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=888887

The domain they used for banging that particular card was outsidebills.com which is on the same ip range and same host in Ukraine.
http://whois.domaintools.com/outsidebills.com

In my opinion I think Trannypays bought nichecastle but kept it discreetly because they don't want anyone to know.

Time to pull all my links.

GoNe · 02-25-2009, 02:56 PM

Very interesting facts you have collected there. Defenitly looks like NicheCastle has been bought by TrannyPay.

Ross · 02-25-2009, 03:01 PM

I noticed this today too actually. Another one bites the dust!

Rice_Master · 02-25-2009, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross

I noticed this today too actually. Another one bites the dust!

sad to see nichecastle go like that, it was a nice program.

Henrique · 02-25-2009, 04:36 PM

We do have some existing deals with JJ but can't elaborate on these deals. It's business as normal with NicheCastle, we have new features planned including higher payouts and many new sites.
As always if you have questions, encounter any problems or issues feel free to contact us directly.

Mike
[email protected]
4704188

Henrique
[email protected]
18549883

* We still operating Niche Castle, period.

Miguel T · 02-25-2009, 04:44 PM

I really doubt this.

nolongerexists · 02-25-2009, 04:56 PM

Ok guys, but throwing those fucking cross sales on REVSHARE PROGRAM is a little LOW.

WTF?

fuzebox · 02-25-2009, 05:23 PM

Correction, one of Archivecash's xsell partners was banging cards, not them.

DaLord · 02-25-2009, 05:30 PM

I fucking hate shady cross sales. REALLY FUCKING HATE THEM!

DWB · 02-25-2009, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rice_Master

Today nichecaslte announced the same payout structure as archivecash which are known for their shaddy cross sales and banging cards.

The customers for the NicheCastle sites are being billed by the domain
Wsupportage.com which is hosted on a server in Ukraine with the ip 76.9.16.165

http://whois.domaintools.com/wsupportage.com

The customers for the TrannyPay (same company as archivecash) are being billed by the domain pursache-24.com which is hosted on the same server and ip as WSupportage.

http://whois.domaintools.com/purchase-24.com

Also for all the type-in traffic going to the nichecastle and trannypay sites you get the same popup.

NC - http://youngasiantrannies.com
TP - http://www.ladyboydolls.com

Wait... wait... are you telling me that two tranny companies share the same host, send each other sales AND one is using the same pay structure as the other? O...M...F...G!!!!

Anyone alert the Washington Post or the LA Times yet?

bdld · 02-25-2009, 05:39 PM

the content is nice, but too bad you had to resort to those tactics, i'll be removing my links too.

VIPimp · 02-25-2009, 05:47 PM

I just checked one of their join pages... 2 prechecked xsells below the submit... and both the xsells look exactly alike and only differ in name/color...lovely.

GrouchyAdmin · 02-25-2009, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox

Correction, one of Archivecash's xsell partners was banging cards, not them.

You're speaking to a deaf audience; That should mean better conversions for those who continue to promote.

seeandsee · 02-25-2009, 07:02 PM

let's hope not

tabasco · 02-25-2009, 07:21 PM

Wow 300 support domains on that IP. They must take customer support really seriously.

arock10 · 02-25-2009, 07:31 PM

fucking shady, oh well niche castle never wanted to sell for me anyway

Farang · 02-25-2009, 07:34 PM

very nice

tenderobject · 02-25-2009, 07:41 PM

oh crap.. i love nichecastle. errr

arock10 · 02-25-2009, 07:55 PM

more money & affiliates for tranny dollars I guess ;)

RyuLion · 02-25-2009, 08:04 PM

check out my ratio..

1:103

DaddyHalbucks · 02-25-2009, 08:10 PM

Thanks for the heads up.

PAR · 02-25-2009, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Wait... wait... are you telling me that two tranny companies share the same host, send each other sales AND one is using the same pay structure as the other? O...M...F...G!!!!

Anyone alert the Washington Post or the LA Times yet?

"Today nichecaslte announced the same payout structure as archivecash which are known for their shaddy cross sales and banging cards.

The customers for the NicheCastle sites are being billed by the domain
Wsupportage.com which is hosted on a server in Ukraine with the ip 76.9.16.165

http://whois.domaintools.com/wsupportage.com

The customers for the TrannyPay (same company as archivecash) are being billed by the domain pursache-24.com which is hosted on the same server and ip as WSupportage.

http://whois.domaintools.com/purchase-24.com

Also for all the type-in traffic going to the nichecastle and trannypay sites you get the same popup.

NC - http://youngasiantrannies.com
TP - http://www.ladyboydolls.com"

No....

What I think he is trying to say is...

- Creamfilledshemales.com- errr ok same thing as the url he posted..
- NicheCastle-
share the following
support = wsupportage.com
support = PURCHASE-24.COM (same shit)
support email uses
phone number
some corp listed on the sites... etc...

This could lead some to think they maybe connected at a higher level then just trading traffic and having sites belonging to the same niche...
But true enough it does not mean they are owned by the same people...
Only that the:
support = PURCHASE-24.COM (same shit as what he listed)
support email uses
phone number
and corp listed on the sites
are owned by the same company

Now why would you say someone in washinton.. ??
Are you saying there is something going on here.. ??

GoNe · 02-25-2009, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyuLion

check out my ratio..

1:103

Yeah I had killer ratios with TrannyPay as well but stopped promoting them when I saw their shaddy cross sales. Sucks the program had some great content..

LB-69 · 02-25-2009, 10:16 PM

Wow, big news...

marec · 02-25-2009, 10:43 PM

i've been ding good with them .... but now ... it's sad..

well , that's why there are more tranny and ladyboy revshare programs !

geedub · 02-25-2009, 10:59 PM

pre-checked cross sales are not something new.. sites have had them on join forms for years. my ratios are great with both companies, and now i can get pps with niche castle too. if anything i will push niche castle more now

Kron · 02-25-2009, 11:35 PM

damn, that cant be true

ExLust · 02-25-2009, 11:37 PM

Thanks for the heads up.

BigFire · 02-26-2009, 12:52 AM

I wondered why nobody pointed his finger at Platinum Bucks and their new free for life sites like:
http://www.freeanalpass.com
By looking at the join page now I see they moved the checked cross sales up but it still stays shady:

FREE LIFETIME ACCESS TO Free Anal Pass

IMPORTANT: AGE VERIFICATION IS REQUIRED

In order to qualify for our Free Lifetime Access offer, you must prove that you are 18 years of age or older.
Please complete all fields to ensure a successful transaction.

Prechecked:

I certify that I am 18 years of age or older.
I have read and agree to Terms and Conditions.
Free Adult Video Network special trial offer. (used to be below the submit button)
Free videodownloadpass special trial offer. (used to be below the submit button)

BOTTOM:

Special offer to Adult Video Network: USD 0.00 for the first 3 days and 39.73 monthly thereafter unless cancelled.
Special offer to Video Download Pass: USD 0.00 for the first 3 days and 39.73 monthly thereafter unless cancelled

The title of this page is:
<title>Age Verification Required for Free Lifetime Access</title>

The join buttons says "Click here to Verify your age"

jingjo · 02-26-2009, 04:05 AM

This is pretty low

nolongerexists · 02-26-2009, 04:05 AM

^ Well there is nothing for FREE. I just hope surfers know this as well and avoid "VERIFYING THEIR AGE" for some bullshit videos from circa 1997.

What really fucked up is? That programs like Niche Castle with top tranny content out there need to fuck surfer. What is even more fucked up? Cross sales on their REVSHARE, god damn it!

Rice_Master · 02-26-2009, 09:40 AM

still no rep from either company? lol...

geedub · 02-26-2009, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rice_Master

still no rep from either company? lol...

re-read your thread, you'll see a response from nichecastle

Trax · 02-26-2009, 09:57 AM

a sale to trannypay would suck ass...

selena · 02-26-2009, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geedub

pre-checked cross sales are not something new.. sites have had them on join forms for years. my ratios are great with both companies, and now i can get pps with niche castle too. if anything i will push niche castle more now

No, xsells are not new, and I don't think most people have an issue with pre checked xsales that have disclosure of the terms above the fold and above the submit button.

That is an apples to oranges situation though.

christianrod30 · 02-26-2009, 04:51 PM

good luck to u all!!!

Ross · 02-26-2009, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blindzior

Cross sales on their REVSHARE, god damn it!

Until about a year ago I hadnt even noticed cross sales, never mind cross sales on revshare. Then I found one of the biggest sponsors I used at that time doing it and dropped them. I think its stupid.

st0ned · 02-26-2009, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blindzior

Ok guys, but throwing those fucking cross sales on REVSHARE PROGRAM is a little LOW.

WTF?

Umm WTF is right. I will be dropping all promos as well.

DWB · 02-26-2009, 10:07 PM

So without asking:

1) Are you getting credit for the cross sales? If not, can you get credit for them?

2) If they can remove them for YOUR traffic?

3) If there is an error of some kind or if it will be changed?

You will just pull links based on what other dip shits on a message board says? LOL

No wonder so many of you struggle in this business. But hey, I hear there is a new bandwagon to jump on in a few days, be sure to be on it. Oh... the banks are also in deep shit and many are going to close, says the news, so you better run and empty your accounts before they crash. Don't bother researching it, just take out your money NOW, it must be true, it was on Fox News.

Idiots.

BlackElf · 02-27-2009, 02:33 PM

This has been suggested on another board with no other response than "we'll consider it"

Quote:

If y'all don't want to rework the cross-sale format, could you offer a 50% revshare MINUS CROSS-SALES for those of us who object to the way it is presented? And make all old links point to those by default?

What do you think about this suggestion?

nolongerexists · 02-27-2009, 02:53 PM

DWB I think it should be other way around... They should ask if they can add cross sells to my Revshare program and of course CREDIT me for those sales too.

Stupid anyway, but at least you get paid for everything you should have been paid for.

faxxaff · 02-28-2009, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blindzior

DWB I think it should be other way around... They should ask if they can add cross sells to my Revshare program and of course CREDIT me for those sales too.

Stupid anyway, but at least you get paid for everything you should have been paid for.

Sponsors should never put up cross sales on revshare links if they don't intend to share the revenue in the first place. Basta!

pixovore · 02-28-2009, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faxxaff

sponsors should never put up cross sales on revshare links if they don't intend to share the revenue in the first place. Basta!

... +1 ...

DWB · 02-28-2009, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blindzior

DWB I think it should be other way around... They should ask if they can add cross sells to my Revshare program and of course CREDIT me for those sales too.

Stupid anyway, but at least you get paid for everything you should have been paid for.

That is a fair way to look at it from an affiliates POV. Though if programs had to start asking for permission to do things, that would turn into a nightmare.

The day that email went out I would have mailed them (if there was a problem) and see if they could work something out for me. If not, I'd do what I had to do. If they would, I would rock on.

DWB · 02-28-2009, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faxxaff

Sponsors should never put up cross sales on revshare links if they don't intend to share the revenue in the first place. Basta!

I can't disagree with that.

Henrique · 02-28-2009, 04:37 PM

That is why we already bumped all affiliates from 50 -> 60%

Henrique · 02-28-2009, 04:41 PM

We always cross sold on our join forms and credited affiliates but the revenue represented less than 5% of our sales, paying now 60% you are earning way more than before at 50% ... We not taking anything from our affiliates, we giving higher payouts!

DWB · 02-28-2009, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henrique

We always cross sold on our join forms and credited affiliates but the revenue represented less than 5% of our sales, paying now 60% you are earning way more than before at 50% ... We not taking anything from our affiliates, we giving higher payouts!

I'm curious how many posters in this entire thread even send sales to you? And out of those who do, are the ones who are running from board to board posting about all of this even sending more than 2 or 3 sales a month?

That's how it usually plays out with webmasters. The ones who create the most noise send the least amount of sales, if any at all.

Yahook · 04-15-2009, 09:08 AM

Very say news if it's true

Farang · 04-15-2009, 09:11 AM

Yahook you're like 6 weeks late in this thread

02-25-2009, 02:56 PM	#2
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02-25-2009, 04:36 PM	#5
Henrique Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 559	We do have some existing deals with JJ but can't elaborate on these deals. It's business as normal with NicheCastle, we have new features planned including higher payouts and many new sites. As always if you have questions, encounter any problems or issues feel free to contact us directly. Mike [email protected] 4704188 Henrique [email protected] 18549883 * We still operating Niche Castle, period. __________________ Tranny Bucks -> Brand new shemale program! ShemaleProfit.com - 11 Shemale sites to promote Buy shemale content on Five Star - Over 1500 shemale sets & best exclusive deals!

02-25-2009, 04:44 PM	#6
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02-25-2009, 04:56 PM	#7
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02-25-2009, 07:02 PM	#14
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02-25-2009, 03:01 PM	#3
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02-25-2009, 05:23 PM	#8
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02-25-2009, 05:30 PM	#9
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02-25-2009, 05:39 PM	#11
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	the content is nice, but too bad you had to resort to those tactics, i'll be removing my links too.

02-25-2009, 05:47 PM	#12
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02-25-2009, 07:21 PM	#15
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02-25-2009, 07:31 PM	#16
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02-25-2009, 07:34 PM	#17
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02-25-2009, 07:41 PM	#18
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02-25-2009, 07:55 PM	#19
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02-25-2009, 08:04 PM	#20
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02-25-2009, 10:43 PM	#25
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02-25-2009, 10:59 PM	#26
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02-25-2009, 11:35 PM	#27
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02-25-2009, 11:37 PM	#28
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02-26-2009, 12:52 AM	#29
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02-26-2009, 04:05 AM	#30
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02-26-2009, 09:40 AM	#32
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02-26-2009, 09:57 AM	#34
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02-26-2009, 10:07 PM	#39
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	So without asking: 1) Are you getting credit for the cross sales? If not, can you get credit for them? 2) If they can remove them for YOUR traffic? 3) If there is an error of some kind or if it will be changed? You will just pull links based on what other dip shits on a message board says? LOL No wonder so many of you struggle in this business. But hey, I hear there is a new bandwagon to jump on in a few days, be sure to be on it. Oh... the banks are also in deep shit and many are going to close, says the news, so you better run and empty your accounts before they crash. Don't bother researching it, just take out your money NOW, it must be true, it was on Fox News. Idiots.

02-27-2009, 02:53 PM	#41
nolongerexists Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,096	DWB I think it should be other way around... They should ask if they can add cross sells to my Revshare program and of course CREDIT me for those sales too. Stupid anyway, but at least you get paid for everything you should have been paid for. __________________ work smart not hard ;)

02-28-2009, 04:37 PM	#46
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02-28-2009, 04:41 PM	#47
Henrique Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 559	We always cross sold on our join forms and credited affiliates but the revenue represented less than 5% of our sales, paying now 60% you are earning way more than before at 50% ... We not taking anything from our affiliates, we giving higher payouts! __________________ Tranny Bucks -> Brand new shemale program! ShemaleProfit.com - 11 Shemale sites to promote Buy shemale content on Five Star - Over 1500 shemale sets & best exclusive deals!

04-15-2009, 09:08 AM	#49
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04-15-2009, 09:11 AM	#50
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