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TheDoc · 03-30-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I presume you are comparing Arizona weed to Canadian. Until you have visited a few Calif co-ops you really have no idea how good we have it here. And again, Amsterdam is not cheaper and it definitely is not better (at least what is available in the coffee shops. I hear rumors that the locals can get better, but you know what they say about rumors).

Hehe, The weed in the medical places, is the same great weed, same strains, same names, same everything - that you can buy on the street - if you have the proper hookup. It's even grown, by the same people. The thing is, people don't normally buy $110-$120 1/4 bags of good shit.

With Canada, is its what they ALL have access to, with at least half the cost. It's not that it's better weed..

Amsterdam sells everything... But if you get a name strain here or with them, it's the same shit.. So saying Cali stuff is better - is impossible.... Thing is, you can get strains in Amsterdam you will never get in Cali... and they ARE much stronger than they you buy here.

TheDoc · 03-30-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Amsterdam is not cheaper and it definitely is not better

Forgot to cover the price..

Per gram, the US is about 5th in the world for the cost of Pot, a few down the list is the Netherlands... and it always has been. And a good bit down is Canada, pretty much off the list

Last I remember, Japan was the most expensive, about double the cost of the next place.

So, per gram, per 1/4, per oz, per pound.. whatever system that is used - America's is one of the most expensive in the world.

Here is the difference between us and them... Here, you can buy a 1/4 of the worst shit ever for $40 or less - They don't have that at all in Amsterdam or Canada - so we do have something they don't have.

tical · 03-30-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by »Rob Content«

Take a look over the past 15 years and how much more expensive cigarettes have gotten. They are what now 5-9 bucks a pack depending on where you are. Remember when they were less then 2 bucks a handful of years ago, and the govt will likely do with marijuana what they did/do with cigarettes. Jack the price up, under the guise of 'betterment of people' and 'incentive to quit' while still making MAD profit off the industry, due to GOVERNMENT REGULATION.

A whole $5 bucks for how many grams of tobacco? Can you spend $5 bucks and get the equivalent amount of marijuana? If tobacco was illegal, do you think you could buy a pack of 20 cigs for $5?

The more that can and will be produced, the cheaper it will be. If you don't want to smoke "Marlboro weed", you can buy organic... you act as if once it is legalized it will suddenly be impossible to find the same quality bud grown the way you want it.

The price for marijuana has already been set, it isn't a secret... for any new company to try to jump in and make a profit they will have to undercut the competition and provide the same or higher quality for less of a price (EVEN AFTER TAXES)... it is how business works. The exception is some seriously high quality shit that justifies the price.. it is only worth what someone will pay for it.

If they couldn't do this, you would be getting the same shit from the same people for the same prices you are right now.

You'll be able to enjoy the result of heavily funded research and development of more potent strains vs passing around 'elite' cuts that a handful of breeders out there find by accident or breed in their backyards or grow rooms.

Besides, since when has mass production resulted in higher prices of anything?

hypedough · 03-30-2009, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

hey what day is it today btw?

Who cares we're so high it doesn't matter!

notoldschool · 03-30-2009, 05:26 PM

All the idiots in this thread that admit being republican, then demand the goverment regulates people from smoking a plant just go shoot yourself because your clueless to your own ignorance.

TDF · 03-30-2009, 06:42 PM

California coops are the best

ZeroHero · 03-30-2009, 06:49 PM

MildGuy · 03-31-2009, 04:49 AM

Wouldn't this cure the whole "prisons are overpopulated" problem we have here in the US?

But then what if so many got released, prisons started having layoffs, cutting workforce by 15%+?

Free up more tax dollars that can be used elsewhere though, right?

Millions of lives ruined because some dudes in power don't like the plant.

Aren't our politicians supposed to be representatives of the people?

The laws don't seem to be really representative of the people.

I know they're "trying to protect" us, but certainly this is a case of causing more harm than good?

Elixir · 03-31-2009, 05:10 AM

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SuckOnThis · 03-31-2009, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

If you clone correctly, you improve the strain.... that's why you clone.

Not correct. Cloning is the exact replica of the plant you took the clone from, you do not improve the strain and its not why you clone.

SuckOnThis · 03-31-2009, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

The State has legalized it for that purpose, the Federal gov't hasn't. The feds are the ones doing the raids. But, under the new administration this has been put to an end.

Obama lied. A dispensary was just raided by the Feds less than a week ago in San Fran.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BA5B16N9LR.DTL

Federal agents raided a medical marijuana dispensary in San Francisco Wednesday, a week after U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder signaled that the Obama administration would not prosecute distributors of pot used for medicinal purposes that operate under sanction of state law.

U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration agents raided Emmalyn's California Cannabis Clinic at 1597 Howard St. in San Francisco's South of Market district mid-afternoon.

They hauled out large plastic bins overflowing with marijuana plants and loaded several pickup trucks parked out front with grow lights and related equipment used to farm the plants indoors.

TheDoc · 03-31-2009, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Not correct. Cloning is the exact replica of the plant you took the clone from, you do not improve the strain and its not why you clone.

Huh? Everyone knows a clone is a copy of the first thing.

Do you clone to keep the best plants? Na, people clone the trash - that's why it never improves..

Do you remove the male plants as you clone? That wouldn't improve anything, we need hemp...

Would someone ever take a fast growing strain, and a strong strain, from cloned plants lines that you now know are strong, and merge them, then clone those, repeating the cycle, until they find the dna pattern in the plant that produces the most pot, that fastest?

Oh, back to clones, yeah - we just photocopy them - that's all a clone is.

baddog · 03-31-2009, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Obama lied.

Jesus would never lie.

SuckOnThis · 03-31-2009, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Huh? Everyone knows a clone is a copy of the first thing.

Do you clone to keep the best plants? Na, people clone the trash - that's why it never improves..

Do you remove the male plants as you clone? That wouldn't improve anything, we need hemp...

Would someone ever take a fast growing strain, and a strong strain, from cloned plants lines that you now know are strong, and merge them, then clone those, repeating the cycle, until they find the dna pattern in the plant that produces the most pot, that fastest?

Oh, back to clones, yeah - we just photocopy them - that's all a clone is.

You made the cloning comment in the same context of genetics, so I thought you meant you were improving the genetics by cloning.

Of course you want to clone your best plants, and if you mean improving the strain means improving the yield then yes, but only for that particular grower, not over all. IE, a lot of clones that growers sell to dispencaries are not from their best plants, they keep those and sell the ones they do not want.

As far as removing male plants as you clone, if you were growing from seed (with the exception of feminized seeds) you would not know a plant was a male unless you were taking clones in the flowering stage which most serious growers do not do simply because they take forever to root.

SuckOnThis · 03-31-2009, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Jesus would never lie.

I like Obama, but between him laughing in the face of over 50 million marijuana users when asked about legalization and these continued raids I have lost a lot of respect for him.

baddog · 03-31-2009, 07:56 AM

you heathen

TheDoc · 03-31-2009, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Jesus would never lie.

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

I like Obama, but between him laughing in the face of over 50 million marijuana users when asked about legalization and these continued raids I have lost a lot of respect for him.

Did you guys READ the article or is Obama bashing part of the daily cup? That's more towards Baddog

From the Article "DEA's action appeared to be prompted by alleged financial improprieties related to the payment of sales taxes."

Wow, they "raided drug dealers".... You gota follow the rules, simple as that.

USUALENT · 03-31-2009, 08:05 AM

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baddog · 03-31-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Wow, they "raided drug dealers".... You gota follow the rules, simple as that.

Wouldn't it be, they raided tax evaders?

SuckOnThis · 03-31-2009, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Did you guys READ the article or is Obama bashing part of the daily cup? That's more towards Baddog

From the Article "DEA's action appeared to be prompted by alleged financial improprieties related to the payment of sales taxes."

Wow, they "raided drug dealers".... You gota follow the rules, simple as that.

I hope you're right, BUT, would the ATF raid a gun store if they were not paying sales tax? Wouldnt that be a local issue?

Ozarkz · 03-31-2009, 10:05 AM

Just because a Health General says he wants to legalize marijuana and stop federal raids doesn't mean shit about Obama and what he wants.

It has been said over and over again why marijuana will NOT be legalized.

People are funny they see an article or hear some talking about it getting legalized and they think it's actually going to happen.. haha..

ThunderBalls · 03-31-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ozarkz

Just because a Health General says he wants to legalize marijuana and stop federal raids doesn't mean shit about Obama and what he wants.

It has been said over and over again why marijuana will NOT be legalized.

People are funny they see an article or hear some talking about it getting legalized and they think it's actually going to happen.. haha..

Do you even know what you're talking about? What the hell is a Health General?

mvee · 03-31-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls

Do you even know what you're talking about? What the hell is a Health General?

ya know the 'Heath General'...

TheDoc · 03-31-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Wouldn't it be, they raided tax evaders?

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

I hope you're right, BUT, would the ATF raid a gun store if they were not paying sales tax? Wouldnt that be a local issue?

Not paying sales tax, is some registered mail a lean against you, and over time it becomes an issue for the courts, that you can ignore for a bit, and so on.

I would think this has more about rules and procedures to follow, so your not just another drug dealer acting like you are legit. As soon as you screw up, bam drug trafficking.

Rand · 03-31-2009, 02:07 PM

American taxpayers are now spending more than a billion dollars per year to incarcerate its citizens for pot. That's according to statistics recently released by the U.S. Department of Justice's Bureau of Justice Statistics.
(source: http://www.alternet.org/rights/47815/)

My two cents: The government has no place prohibiting the use of marijuana or regulating it. There's no reason for it except to generate revenue, on either count. There should be no law against its use, distribution, where it can be grown, or how much you can have. Period.

I'm not sure how much you can believe about these stats (though I've seen similar numbers from multiple sources), but if true... then the prohibition of marijuana is completely out of control and needs to stop now.

http://skeptically.org/recdrugs/id8.html

YEAR MARIJUANA ARRESTS

2001 723,627
2000 734,498
1999 704,812
1998 682,885
1997 695,200
1996 641,642
1995 588,963
1994 499,122
1993 380,689
1992 342,314

This is insane.

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Ozarkz So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,377	Just because a Health General says he wants to legalize marijuana and stop federal raids doesn't mean shit about Obama and what he wants. It has been said over and over again why marijuana will NOT be legalized. People are funny they see an article or hear some talking about it getting legalized and they think it's actually going to happen.. haha..

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Rand Industry Vet Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 2,663	American taxpayers are now spending more than a billion dollars per year to incarcerate its citizens for pot. That's according to statistics recently released by the U.S. Department of Justice's Bureau of Justice Statistics. (source: http://www.alternet.org/rights/47815/) My two cents: The government has no place prohibiting the use of marijuana or regulating it. There's no reason for it except to generate revenue, on either count. There should be no law against its use, distribution, where it can be grown, or how much you can have. Period. I'm not sure how much you can believe about these stats (though I've seen similar numbers from multiple sources), but if true... then the prohibition of marijuana is completely out of control and needs to *stop now.* http://skeptically.org/recdrugs/id8.html YEAR MARIJUANA ARRESTS 2001 723,627 2000 734,498 1999 704,812 1998 682,885 1997 695,200 1996 641,642 1995 588,963 1994 499,122 1993 380,689 1992 342,314 *This is insane.*