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Old 06-13-2009, 01:38 PM   #151
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I hope it makes you feel good. I feel sorry for you.
It makes me feel as good as talking shit about me made you feel.

No, actually I probably feel better.
The counterpunch always feels better.
Now crawl back to your glass house
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Old 06-13-2009, 01:38 PM   #152
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Oh Bushwacker, you're offended.
Sorry.
I kept that opinion to myself until Tony felt the need to come in here and express his.

Glass houses and all that........
I said nothing bad. I said I had no doubt you do well in fact. You are just cruel, that's all. Now I know.
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I said nothing bad. I said I had no doubt you do well in fact. You are just cruel, that's all. Now I know.
Oh please....
Haha. Now pretend that's all you said.
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"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." - Samuel Johnson (1709-1784)

Ron, is Mojo still alive? Did he re-marry?
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Oh please....
Haha. Now pretend that's all you said.
"I have no doubt 12 does well for himself. He has two employees and I doubt he plays slave wages. He doesn't work in my industry porn,he works in marketing. One thing I have to say of all the people I have met in adult over my 10 yrs online, he was the second that was miserable in person.Which actually disappointed me, I was looking forward to chit chatting with him.I figured he is a pretty interesting colorful guy.Is he rich I doubt that I worked for Rolls Royce I worked for people that could buy everyone on this board 17 times over. Never did they mention money and they treated you like a peer which I always found strange."

Please tell what I said that was so bad that you had to strike out at me.
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Old 06-13-2009, 01:44 PM   #156
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"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." - Samuel Johnson (1709-1784)

Ron, is Mojo still alive? Did he re-marry?
Yes, he remarried 12. You should see the pictures. Beautiful ceremony.
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Old 06-13-2009, 01:44 PM   #157
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tony, I found you to be one of the most physically repulsive people I ever met in this business. Call me shallow but I just wasn't interested. (I was also afraid if I stuck around, you might try to eat me)

And I love how you and relentless's inferiority complex has you imagining I call myself wealthy or talk about my money.
I never mention it and you can't quote where I have.
But please, troll away. You gotta be good at something
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I didn't strike out, I merely gave an explaination for why you fund me one of two miserable people in porn in 10 years.

With all your honesty and the way you want out of your way to say it, I thought I owed you honesty in return.

Sucks when your snide comments bite you in the ass, huh?


Serge, mojo is east enough to find. Hit him up and catch up with him as you'd like.

My "date" has arrived so I'm done rousing the rabble for now.
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Serge, mojo is east enough to find. Hit him up and catch up with him as you'd like.
I'll be in New York at the end of June / beginning of July. I have no idea how to hit him. I'll ICQ you for details. Could be fun to have a lunch at Hooters just like in the old days. Can we bring our own wine there? I have no problems hitting your cellar!
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tony, I found you to be one of the most physically repulsive people I ever met in this business. Call me shallow but I just wasn't interested. (I was also afraid if I stuck around, you might try to eat me)

And I love how you and relentless's inferiority complex has you imagining I call myself wealthy or talk about my money.
I never mention it and you can't quote where I have.
But please, troll away. You gotta be good at something
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I didn't strike out, I merely gave an explaination for why you fund me one of two miserable people in porn in 10 years.

With all your honesty and the way you want out of your way to say it, I thought I owed you honesty in return.

Sucks when your snide comments bite you in the ass, huh?


Serge, mojo is east enough to find. Hit him up and catch up with him as you'd like.

My "date" has arrived so I'm done rousing the rabble for now.
Snide remarks? I have no doubt he does well? I was disappointed he seems like a colorful and interesting guy? You do work in marketing not porn. Have you ever shot a scene ? Have to worry about 2257? Have to have a lawyer just for 2257? if not you do marketing on net and your focus is adult.
On another board you have talked about how Im beneath you and wanted the government to take care of me and how you and your kind provide it all for the lowly people like me.

No you wanted to be cruel because thats how you get your kicks. That's fine. I learned now and I will avoid you. You have my word. I have been schooled.
You were the second miserable person and you explained why here. I stuck my hand to introduce myself and you acted like you were touching shit. I picked up right on it.Please tell me were I was snide or are you just a cruel person and Im a easy target.

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Your new seo text for tours, scene descripts, blogs, press releases and magazine articles is now just a click away

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hmmm...darn, I lost your ICQ.

can you or him hit me at 119895157
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And I love how you and relentless's inferiority complex has you imagining I call myself wealthy or talk about my money.
I never mention it and you can't quote where I have.
You are a lying mother fucker. You are always rubbing people's nose in your supposed success and belittling them for what you perceive to be a lack of success on their part.

It's your fucking M.O.
You're Mr Big PPS program owner, and anytime someone says something you don't like, you go through your checklist.

1) They're a part timer who lives with their mother.

If people come in a vouch that they're actually in the biz and send people joins, then you resort to

2) You're just a punk affiliate, not a program owner. Program owners are the "real businessmen"

Then, if it's someone who actually owns a program, you resort to

3) Oh it's just a revshare program, what's the matter punk, can't afford to do PPS?

Like here
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...1&postcount=57


The clear implication that anyone with 3rd grade reading comprehension will get is that you think you're better than everyone here because you think you make more money than everyone here. Or at least more than the people who post in these threads.

Just because you never used the words bank account or money doesn't mean you weren't talking about it.
Just like in your repubilcan whine threads about taxes, you always belittle the people who disagree with you because you say YOU are the one paying for THEIR country. The clear implication is of course that they are in a lower tax bracket than you.

It's one thing to be a worthless pompous windbag, it's another thing to forget about your own god complex and decide that it's someone else with an inferiority complex who's really the problem.

I'd like to buy you for what you're worth and sell you for what you think you're worth.
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12clicks has made the equivalent of 5000 of those videos in text, arguing with people about himself on internet message boards, with people who clearly don't belong in his presence. Many many hours have been spent.

What does that tell you?

For him I guess he likes the notoriety, and purposely provokes people with ass backwards comments. Usually some form of cruelty, ignorance or disdain.

Like let's say someone's dog got hit by a car. A normal person would have some sympathy. But not 12clicks. This my friends, is a fantastic business opportunity. He just says something horrible, and then all lights are on him.

You can substitute the dog. He might be an animal lover who knows. I uhhhh doubt it though.
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That's right suckers. While all you blog posters and gallery submitting losers are in here working, I'm out in a limo with half a dozen fine ladies, eating caviar and drinking Dom.

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...He might be an animal lover who knows. I uhhhh doubt it though.
I don't think he loves anything that he can't see in the mirror and probably not much of what he does see there.
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Hey Serge, do you pronounce your name "surge" or "sir-gay"

I've heard people call you "surge" before, but I thought that name was pronounced "sir-gay" in Russian.
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Just call me 12click's godfather. If you are picking a piss with me, you gotta do better than that or pay me money. paypal me $1000 and I will piss with you 'til you beg me to stop.

...and I don't do refunds, even if I stop. Are you solvent?
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The last number from the beginning of 2008 I heard was about 100k a month.
Not from flaky affiliates but mostly from WEG. Needless to say this was 17 months ago, as I don't keep any tabs on the industry and just pass what I hear from friends.

100k a month in today's environment is not exactly something to be called a pauper.
It ain't exactly burnin down the house either.
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It ain't exactly burnin down the house either.
Right. But without posting your own income stats, ie - what "serious" manly-man income is, your comment is rather weak and very much without oomph. There are plenty here as well as in any business in any country of the world who would love to earn $100k a month from just one of several sponsors they promote.

I've pissed here and there with Ron before. Serge has pissed with him much more than I. If you really want to get to him you're going to have to do better than this nonsense.

No, I'm not going to teach you how.
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Just call me 12click's godfather. If you are picking a piss with me, you gotta do better than that or pay me money. paypal me $1000 and I will piss with you 'til you beg me to stop.

...and I don't do refunds, even if I stop. Are you solvent?
It was a legitimate question.

Why would I pick a piss with a guy who has nothing but free time and 15 years experience pissing?

Like I said, I've heard people refer to you as "surge" but that doesn't mean it's correct.
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Right. But without posting your own income stats, ie - what "serious" manly-man income is, your comment is rather weak and very much without oomph. There are plenty here as well as in any business in any country of the world who would love to earn $100k a month from just one of several sponsors they promote.

I've pissed here and there with Ron before. Serge has pissed with him much more than I. If you really want to get to him you're going to have to do better than this nonsense.

No, I'm not going to teach you how.
OK teach....you go girl...It ain't nothin to do with manly income, that is for kids. And if you can show me one aff that makes 100k a month from this guy please enlighten us. It has nothing to do with piss but curiosity about bullshit and bluster from someone who we all know crashed in "mainstream" where the real money is made and it takes serious skill to do it. Not scammy crap. So, CD, please be forthcoming. BTW, I am sure there are many who would love to make that amount, but in the real world that is still a small business which is a very, very respectable way to earn a living. This is a serious question. Inquiring minds would like to know the real deal. I willl do the mea culpa dance if you can actually produce something of interest. I am not above that. So, if you have anything other than piss and vinegar in you, smoke em if you got em.
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OK teach....you go girl...It ain't nothin to do with manly income, that is for kids. And if you can show me one aff that makes 100k a month from this guy please enlighten us. It has nothing to do with piss but curiosity about bullshit and bluster from someone who we all know crashed in "mainstream" where the real money is made and it takes serious skill to do it. Not scammy crap. So, CD, please be forthcoming. BTW, I am sure there are many who would love to make that amount, but in the real world that is still a small business which is a very, very respectable way to earn a living. This is a serious question. Inquiring minds would like to know the real deal. I willl do the mea culpa dance if you can actually produce something of interest. I am not above that. So, if you have anything other than piss and vinegar in you, smoke em if you got em.
Um, no, you're the one cocking off and saying 100k a month is small potatoes skippy. The onus is on YOU to show everyone what real income looks like.

So let's see it.
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Um, no, you're the one cocking off and saying 100k a month is small potatoes skippy. The onus is on YOU to show everyone what real income looks like.

So let's see it.
Nope I never said that. I said that was a small business and that is exactly what it is. What you were implying was 12clicks made millions and millions...which is seriously silly. You have now bored me because you have no intention of answering any kind of legit question and that speaks volumes. So, on that note, I will leave you to your Winnipeg Q and the scenic Red River. Peace out...no need to reply because I am outta here and will not see your response. Life is too short to waste time on this shit.
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There is a website where you can make it, it adds the captions to the movie part automaticly.

there are thousands of theses hitler videos arround.
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There is a website where you can make it, it adds the captions to the movie part automaticly.

there are thousands of theses hitler videos arround.
link?

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The wealthy and successful people are not the ones who are in business for 11 years. They are the ones who retired long ago and have no need to work. Here is a quick checklist:

- If you are working during "normal business hours" you are not wealthy.

- If you are trying to hustle x-sales at porn conferences you are not wealthy.

- If you have an office you are not wealthy.

- If you have more than $100 dollars in your wallet in cash you are not wealthy.

- If you need to tell people you are wealthy, you are not wealthy.

You may be rich... you may be well off, you may have had some success... so have many other people. However wealth is something you have never achieved and likely never even seen. Stop telling everyone what a success you think you are because you have a box of cigars and a bottle of wine. Stop claiming to have invented internet porn or digital marketing. Accept the fact that when you speak of 'respecting successful people' everyone already agrees with you.... and if sitting in a room with Michael Bloomberg or Bill Gates or Warren Buffet or Steve Jobs, every single person (even on GFY) would STFU and listen respectfully.... you just aren't in that class - at least not yet ;)


Everyone Else,

12clicks is no different than a 'heel' in professional wrestling. He would rather play the part of of the arrogant buffoon than the hero. I'm not sure that's wise in a business setting but if that's his choice so be it. Making fun of him comes with the territory and to his credit he relishes that fact - he has proven time and again he can 'take it' far better than he can 'dish it out.' So give the man his due. He may not have invented internet porn or become wealthy as he often claims, but he has supplied all of us with countless hours of online hilarity.

How about a big round of applause for 12clicks

i 90% agree with ur posts in this thread, but when You said "The wealthy and successful people are not the ones who are in business for 11 years" not true at all.

There are still lots of players and even the big ones from good ole days.

for example: as of myself if i had even multy bilion dollars, i would be still working to build an other one, because working is something need for human body as food, water, sex, sleeping etc.

however as i told above i got Your point and mostly agree with ur ideas.

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Right. But without posting your own income stats, ie - what "serious" manly-man income is, your comment is rather weak and very much without oomph. There are plenty here as well as in any business in any country of the world who would love to earn $100k a month from just one of several sponsors they promote.

I've pissed here and there with Ron before. Serge has pissed with him much more than I. If you really want to get to him you're going to have to do better than this nonsense.

No, I'm not going to teach you how.
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It was a legitimate question.

Why would I pick a piss with a guy who has nothing but free time and 15 years experience pissing?

Like I said, I've heard people refer to you as "surge" but that doesn't mean it's correct.
15??? I started in the "Investment Chat" of Compuserve, this makes it MORE than 15!


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Now, I have nothing against 2 grown men trying to hurt each others feelings on a web forum, but 4 pages seems like an incredible waste of time and dignity...
this is new! Somebody defends DIGNITY on GFY. I never seen anything like it!
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Let's admit it, we failed, we can't fix weekly
Fix? no. Play with?... yes.


The guy's name is Ron White btw.
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If I could offer one piece of advice to the planet, it would be this: Don't marry for looks alone, and I'll tell you why. In a few years, when Barbara's boobs start sagging, she can get plastic surgery, have them lifted, move the nipple wherever. You can actually go to a titty bar, pick out a set of titties and say, "I want those titties on that woman." If her belly gets too big, she can get a tummy tuck and have a belly like a cheerleader. If her vision goes bad, you can have LASIK surgery and have 20/20 vision. If her hearing goes bad, they can install a device in her ear that will give you hearing as clear as it was the day you were born. But let me tell you something, folks: You can't fix stupid. There's not a pill you can take; there's not a class you can go to. Stupid is forever.
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It's not strange at all. Wealthy people have absolutely zero pressure on them... which is a very difficult thing for a 'normal person' to even imagine.

Think about what it would be like to wake up tomorrow morning at whatever time you like, with pretty much whoever you want to be with, at any location you prefer to be in and have an entire day preplanned for you and arranged for you by other people to be exactly what you would enjoy most. Now imagine during that day you are golfing on the Hawaiian isle of Lanai and your caddy shows up holding your bag of clubs. Why in the world wouldn't you be completely at ease and absolutely nice to him? Why not treat him like a peer? You already have everything you could ever want and he is no threat to any of that. His success has no bearing on your own, and all he wants to do is help you enjoy your day for a meaningless amount of money - something you have so much of that you can not possibly spend it during your lifetime or the lifetimes of your heirs. The level of accomplishment far exceeds the level of ambition.

On the other hand, "barely rich people" feel the world owes them respect. They need to try to demonstrate some kind of superiority because deep down they know how fragile their own position really is - and they know that it can all be gone in a puff of smoke with a single incident like a divorce, or a night of driving home from a party after having too much to drink, or a tax audit. The level of ambition far exceeds the level of accomplishment.
This and your previous post are some of the most well-though posts I read around @GFY over the past years
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i 90% agree with ur posts in this thread, but when You said "The wealthy and successful people are not the ones who are in business for 11 years" not true at all. There are still lots of players and even the big ones from good ole days. for example: as of myself if i had even multy bilion dollars, i would be still working to build an other one, because working is something need for human body as food, water, sex, sleeping etc. however as i told above i got Your point and mostly agree with ur ideas. respect
Read the checklist a little more carefully. See if this new checklist applies to you. ;)

If you own a lucrative business and do NOT work during "normal business hours" you might be wealthy.

If you are sending OTHER people to hustle x-sales at porn conferences while you relax with old friends or stay home you might be wealthy.

If you own an office that OTHER people work in while you are on your yacht you might be wealthy.

If you have OTHER people in your entourage standing around waiting to 'pay the man' when the bill comes you might be wealthy.

If OTHER people tell everyone how great you look in your new private jet or how much fun they had on your private island or how wealthy they think you are, you might be wealthy.

There are plenty of wealthy people in porn, and some of them are still active. However, when was the last time Larry Flynt personally sat next to you and asked if you would send him some cross sales? When is the last time he reached for his own wallet to pay a check? Do you think he is in the office from 9-5 M-F each week? When is the last time he called someone a 'shitstain' and demanded to be respected or felt the need to prove he is wealthy?

In this world there are wealthy people, there are barely rich people, there are average people, there are hard working poor people and there are lazy poor people. You will find the two groups that are the hardest to get along with are the lazy poor people and the barely rich.
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this is new! Somebody defends DIGNITY on GFY. I never seen anything like it!

Only defending the little amount left, seperating us from sideshow entertainers...

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xxxdesign-net, c'mon, there is no separation left....if it ever been there in the first place.

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