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				IE8 is a bunch of buggy crap
			 
			they can't even get the Find: feature programmed correctly  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I am still using IE6 and Opera on occassion. If something from MS ain't broke I resist upgrading for as long as possible... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I agree with you, I fell for their including it in an "automatic windows update" and installed it while half asleep 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Same here... I had IE6 installed so I could preview sites. I don't use IE at all, so I didn't care what version I had. Might as well have IE6 if you're designing sites. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I like Seamonkey alot too, and it has a handy html editor built right in for quick stuff 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I was with the IE6 crowd too, just that it never got opened.. I installed IE8 the other day, it has a nice browsing experience. But I ran into a few times when it wouldn't open ANY website, at all.. Just said connecting to IP at the bottom then timed out.. While all my other browsers were working fine.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
	
	Firefox for daily use, Chrome and Safari for extra testing, and IE8 now IE6 we honestly just stopped developing for. Can't be bothered, there's so much shit it can't do nowadays. If our sites look crazy broken for people in IE6, maybe they'll get the message. We may pay someone to make things IE6 capable in the future, but fuck spending valuable dev time on that shit.  | 
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		 Why is the world would anyone even use IE? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 because you have to if you want to access all sites, there are still alot of sites and content that chokes on firefox, some drm protected video, and others 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 One site I play bingo on, craps out just trying to get through the registration in FireFox... in IE8... no problem, everything works perfectly, so clearly they coded the site specifically for IE. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I co-sign this thread.  Fuck IE and all its versions.  IE 6 renders my site badly.  Good thing its market share is sinking to single digits soon  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I will never use that crap 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Sites look different depending on if you use ie6, 7 or 8... so you need to check 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 IE7 was absolutely fine. 8 is terrible.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Hard to believe there are any tech people that would actually use IE. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I tried, things got worse and worse with IE8, weird things were happening with other internet connections when IE8 had been running.... reverted back to IE7 again and all is fine 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			how can Microsoft, with all their money and programming talent continue to screw important things up like this? (maybe it goes back to the old theory, one genius programmer working in his mom's basement can do a better job than 1000 hired university educated programmers working on one project) 
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		 IE8 can't even read webmail from 3 different email providers 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 How do you set statsRemote to open shit in FF instead of ie8 ?? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 every IE is a bunch of buggy crap 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 i do not like IE8 too... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 even with  forced download ie8 is not a dominant IE browser. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			i thought this was interesting Internet Explorer 1. 7.0 60.32% 2. 6.0 21.48% 3. 8.0 17.99% Overall 1. Internet Explore 70.70% 2. Firefox 19.58% 3. Safari 4.74% 4. Chrome 1.85% 5. Opera 1.15% 
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		 IE8 sucks... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 microsoft sucks... so many version of windows but still no stable version had release... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I dont have any major problems with IE8. I only installed it on my lap top. No crashes yet but it does seem slow at times. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 am i the only one that do great with IE8? if you tweak it a bit with a few XP tricks for having more concurrent connections, it's faster compared to latest FF - given you have a fast computer and connection. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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