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C H R I S · 08-02-2009, 10:35 PM

The latest imminent ?death? of the adult paysite subscription model

Regarding the supposedly imminent demise of the online subscription model as the main method of accessing porn sites, Mark Twain may not have quipped, "The rumors of its death have been greatly exaggerated," but he might very well have were he alive to comment on the state of adult commerce. Though he also might have said that if subscription models don't adapt to the times, they should die, for such was the great man's understanding of the ebb and flow of the markets.

Online subscription models made sense the moment technology allowed them, not least because people recognized them from their offline dealings. It was a proven form of interaction, which is why content-based businesses began replicating their offline subscription models online right from the start, with middling success.

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munki · 08-02-2009, 10:36 PM

Great read

fris · 08-02-2009, 10:37 PM

is it true avn is going out of bizness?

Mutt · 08-02-2009, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by fris

is it true avn is going out of bizness?

cue Alanis Morrissette

F-U-Jimmy · 08-02-2009, 10:41 PM

I thought they went years ago

Barefootsies · 08-02-2009, 10:42 PM

It was an interesting read.

Enjoyed it last week while on the shitter.

SBJ · 08-02-2009, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

It was an interesting read.

Enjoyed it last week while on the shitter.

too much info

C H R I S · 08-02-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fris

is it true avn is going out of bizness?

LOL - Yeah, we're all flying to Miami for the going out of business party. Y'know Internext.

Thanks for the positive input...

C H R I S · 08-02-2009, 10:55 PM

This is also a great read....

WHERE HAVE ALL THE AFFILIATES GONE?

The ranks may be dwindling, but good recruits and loyal veterans remain valuable weapons in the online marketing arsenal.

By Kathee Brewer
08/01/2009
Affiliates are the lifeblood of online marketing ? right?

Once upon a time, the answer to that question was so self-evident as to need no voice. Especially in the adult entertainment industry ? often credited with creating the virtual equivalent of a business model successfully employed for decades by brick-and-mortar companies like Amway and Avon ? recruiting, equipping and deploying an army of sales associates made the difference between rousing financial victory and inglorious defeat. Traditionally, affiliates composed the troops upon whose shoulders Web-based adult empires rose to prominence. Among the fields of cyberspace, some of the most successful affiliates even developed affiliate armies of their own.

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Barefootsies · 08-02-2009, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AVNChris

This is also a great read....

WHERE HAVE ALL THE AFFILIATES GONE?

The ranks may be dwindling, but good recruits and loyal veterans remain valuable weapons in the online marketing arsenal.

By Kathee Brewer
08/01/2009
Affiliates are the lifeblood of online marketing ? right?

Once upon a time, the answer to that question was so self-evident as to need no voice. Especially in the adult entertainment industry ? often credited with creating the virtual equivalent of a business model successfully employed for decades by brick-and-mortar companies like Amway and Avon ? recruiting, equipping and deploying an army of sales associates made the difference between rousing financial victory and inglorious defeat. Traditionally, affiliates composed the troops upon whose shoulders Web-based adult empires rose to prominence. Among the fields of cyberspace, some of the most successful affiliates even developed affiliate armies of their own.

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Agreed.

Traffic, affiliates, among other related points have been interesting seminars at the conferences. Especially the programs detailing how they are moving to generating their own traffic in-house and becoming less defendant on affiliate, and whales.

tigermtb · 08-02-2009, 11:03 PM

There are so many variables related to the current situation.. innovation is the only way out and we will find the way.

C H R I S · 08-02-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Agreed.

Traffic, affiliates, among other related points have been interesting seminars at the conferences. Especially the programs detailing how they are moving to generating their own traffic in-house and becoming less defendant on affiliate, and whales.

See you at the Internext, we should sit down and chat

WiredGuy · 08-02-2009, 11:43 PM

With the reduction of affiliates going on, I wonder what will happen at shows, seems these shows are about 90% b2b and 10% webmasters. I remember less than 5 years ago it was the other way around.
WG

VeriSexy · 08-02-2009, 11:53 PM

A nice article, good read

snaker · 08-03-2009, 12:10 AM

Good stuff,

Im skeptical on the whole "mobile porn" that programs are trumpeting as the next big thing.

Jerking off to your iphones 3.5 inch screen? I just dont see surfers buyin mobile porn right now

fris · 08-03-2009, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVNChris

LOL - Yeah, we're all flying to Miami for the going out of business party. Y'know Internext.

Thanks for the positive input...

My bad i just read a news article a couple days ago

Quote:

It seems that even porn is not immune from the recession. AVN Online, the offshoot of the trade publication Adult Video News, is ceasing publication. AVN Publisher Tony Lovett wrote to subscribers today saying, "This past year, the economic downturn has taken a harsh toll on industries across the board. Advertising budgets dwindled or disappeared altogether, and trade publications suffered as a consequence. At the same time, we at AVN Media Network began to see a consolidation of the industries."

JFK · 08-03-2009, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVNChris

LOL - Yeah, we're all flying to Miami for the going out of business party. Y'know Internext.

Thanks for the positive input...

See you there Chris, chill the beer

gideongallery · 08-03-2009, 06:33 AM

there are more types of subscriptions then subscriptions for content.

Pleasurepays · 08-03-2009, 06:48 AM

hahahahahahahhaha

AVN Article - "the consumer is always right"

AVN Announcement - "AVN is going out of business"

Voodoo · 08-03-2009, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

With the reduction of affiliates going on, I wonder what will happen at shows, seems these shows are about 90% b2b and 10% webmasters. I remember less than 5 years ago it was the other way around.
WG

Hi, what do you do? I'm a sales rep. Join my program! Earn big bucks! Here's a T-Shirt!

C H R I S · 08-03-2009, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris

My bad i just read a news article a couple days ago

And you assumed we were going out of businesss from am article on the
consolidtion of a few of our magazine?

AVN does alot more than publish magazines- and in no uncertain terms we
will be around for years to come.

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