900 Billing sucks - GoFuckYourself.com

emjay · 04-12-2009, 10:34 AM

It does not even work with cellphones! And US consumers know that they are not legally obliged to pay, so many don't...

For the rest of the world, chargebacks are negligible since subscribers tend to pay their phone bills in full.

We can disable US so that our geo payment button does not appear there...

charlie3273 · 04-12-2009, 12:06 PM

That would be a good idea most of the US is on cell phones only and so is china fyi. Good idea to block both countries.

emjay · 04-12-2009, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie3273

That would be a good idea most of the US is on cell phones only and so is china fyi. Good idea to block both countries.

But since phone billing is practically the only way to monetize Chinese traffic, if the authorities there have not blocked you, deploy it!

notime · 04-12-2009, 12:39 PM

I LOVE 900's.

These surfers pay just BECAUSE they want to "remain anonymous" for their wife or boss.
Here in Europe it's like 80%+ with premium phone lines.
Billing like 0,50 to 3,00 per minute (average holding times for a good site is 7 to 12 minutes...per session..and that could be many times per month).

The no charge back part is the best for most countries.

Barefootsies · 04-12-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by notime

I LOVE 900's.

These surfers pay just BECAUSE they want to "remain anonymous" for their wife or boss.
Here in Europe it's like 80%+ with premium phone lines.
Billing like 0,50 to 3,00 per minute (average holding times for a good site is 7 to 12 minutes...per session..and that could be many times per month).

The no charge back part is the best for most countries.

That sums it up nicely chief.

emjay · 04-12-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by notime

I LOVE 900's.

These surfers pay just BECAUSE they want to "remain anonymous" for their wife or boss.
Here in Europe it's like 80%+ with premium phone lines.
Billing like 0,50 to 3,00 per minute (average holding times for a good site is 7 to 12 minutes...per session..and that could be many times per month).

The no charge back part is the best for most countries.

lol could not agree more Jacques, premium rate numbers rock - and PbP is powered by them.

But, as with mobile, USA is a difficult market for premium rate billing

notime · 04-12-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

That sums it up nicely chief.

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Originally Posted by emjay

lol could not agree more Jacques, premium rate numbers rock - and PbP is powered by them.

But, as with mobile, USA is a difficult market for premium rate billing

1:100 is average in Holland
1:10 is a good weekend

US$ 29,95 a month = 1 US$ per day

But if Europeans are willing to pay 0,50 to 3,00 per MINUTE....and have a 7 to 12 minute average (EACH TIME THEY LOGIN!!...and that could be anywhere from 3 times a day to once a month..).

There is a market waiting to be discovered & claimed for our non-european based GFY friends.

If you think a am full of shit? There are at least 5 to 10 companies I know doing 10 to 100 million a year in our really small Netherlands or Belgium alone who only use 0900/sms/direct debits/prepaid cards with adult website and/or mobile sites.

Last year in Amsterdam I met a guy doing 2M monthly with livesex chats over phones/pda/iphones and he was from the UK, where I never even heard of that technology before I met him and he gave me a demo of the system.

If you target Europe; go for UK, Germany, Austria, Switserland, Holland, belgium, France, Poland, Denmark, Sweden, Normay, Finland, Luxemburg, Spain, Italy, etc. etc.

CIVMatt · 04-12-2009, 01:24 PM

I love 900 as well

emjay · 04-13-2009, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by notime

There is a market waiting to be discovered & claimed for our non-european based GFY friends.

Indeed there is, big world out there lol

emjay · 07-05-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by notime

If you target Europe; go for UK, Germany, Austria, Switserland, Holland, belgium, France, Poland, Denmark, Sweden, Normay, Finland, Luxemburg, Spain, Italy, etc. etc.

What he said. And don't forget to compare rates. Remember, a surfer from UK pays £1.50/Min., irrespective of which phone processor webmasters choose to work with. But the outpayment rates vary enormously...

PapiChulo · 07-05-2009, 02:40 PM

Yep PbP works well. Ya gotta use it for your SA customers as well, which I get.

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charlie3273 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: reno,nv sometimes Posts: 376	That would be a good idea most of the US is on cell phones only and so is china fyi. Good idea to block both countries. __________________ Super Slutty That is my website of many I have.

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CIVMatt Amateur Pimpin Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 13,075	I love 900 as well __________________ Make easy money with Webcams

04-12-2009, 12:39 PM	#4
notime Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: cyberspace Posts: 8,021	I LOVE 900's. These surfers pay just BECAUSE they want to "remain anonymous" for their wife or boss. Here in Europe it's like 80%+ with premium phone lines. Billing like 0,50 to 3,00 per minute (average holding times for a good site is 7 to 12 minutes...per session..and that could be many times per month). The no charge back part is the best for most countries.

07-05-2009, 02:40 PM	#11
PapiChulo Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Jax, FL Posts: 45	Yep PbP works well. Ya gotta use it for your SA customers as well, which I get.