If you had US$10K per month to spend on ADS, which networks would you go with? - GoFuckYourself.com

CunningStunt · 07-15-2009, 06:36 PM

I need to ramp an adult site (not predominantly porn) up from a place in the Top 15,000 most visited sites on the planet, to a top 1000 slot.

Buying traffic is one way to give it a nudge upwards (not my preference).

Where would you put your $?

Or what other strategies would you employ? Where else to spend the $? I'm all for guerilla marketing techniques

Nicky · 07-15-2009, 06:46 PM

You only need to ramp up the traffic, no ROI?

spacedog · 07-15-2009, 07:03 PM

I'd go with JuicyAds because I can pick individual sites where I want my ad. I can choose based on % of english speaking traffic, # of impressions and/or clicks of current/past ads, etc. Each site in their system gives me info like how many clicks the top ad got and what the average is, % of countries and the cost per click for the ad spot.

With JuicyAds, I can also take out a run of the network ad for a specific cost per click.

With the individual sites, I pay a flat fee and if I get more clicks than I hoped for, I don't have to pay more.

Some sites set their rates as low as .009 per click which gives them low flat per time fees.

I can place ads in many various sizes of image as well as text

CunningStunt · 07-15-2009, 07:09 PM

Traffic Nicky. But I want it targetted traffic, not dross from blind links, or tube type traffic, they are not the kind of surfers I'm after.

I am peppering the top 10 in google for 20 or so of my target phrases, so can't do much more on the SEO front.

Anyone have experience with JuicyAds? I've never tried them.

I'd need run of network, English speaking sites.

WiredGuy · 07-15-2009, 07:16 PM

I'm surprised you didn't put Adwords/Yahoo in there.
WG

CamTraffic · 07-15-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I'm surprised you didn't put Adwords/Yahoo in there.
WG

exactly was i was thinking, Wildline (http://www.wildlinecorp.com/) could get you where you need to be with a budget like that, contact Johnny V, i have attended many seminars when he was a speaker and from what i hear they do an excellent job

good luck, and let us know how it worked out

RayBonga · 07-15-2009, 07:27 PM

build a tube section ;)

CunningStunt · 07-15-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I'm surprised you didn't put Adwords/Yahoo in there.
WG

I got banned from Adwords over a copyright dispute, which the sponsor I was pushing actually backed me up on. Crazy. I hate lining their pockets too.

Yahoo - could go that route.

I was thinking of getting a wide reach outside my usual keyword sphere, with a huge variety of sites, rather than just targetting a few hundred phrases relevant to my site on the search engines.

I'm also unsure of the effect advertising on Google or Yahoo will have on my naturally good rankings for my target phrases. I've read so much in the past about paying for advertising having a negative affect, it worries me a lot.

I need to hire WiredGuy for a week. What are your fees?

fuzebox · 07-15-2009, 09:34 PM

Ugh, every company in that list has garbage low quality traffic

CunningStunt · 07-15-2009, 09:52 PM

Yes, I expected people to say that. I've tried 4 of them over the years with limited success. Looking for a better solution all round really.

I was hoping for some intelligent dialogue as to what you'd do with the money instead. I should have worded the question better, my bad.

Iron Fist · 07-15-2009, 10:06 PM

JuicyAds didn't even make the list? Man you are missing out. Big fucking time missing out. See sig, sign up and check it out already! Its free!

woj · 07-15-2009, 10:08 PM

the first rule of good traffic sources is..... you do not talk about good traffic sources...

CunningStunt · 07-16-2009, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

the first rule of good traffic sources is..... you do not talk about good traffic sources...

Only in Vegas.

You mainly just write scripts don't you? Are you an active webmaster working the coalface?

BigRod · 07-16-2009, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

the first rule of good traffic sources is..... you do not talk about good traffic sources...

Too true, you only talk about it after its dried up! Wikipedia used to be an amazing source for PR it was only exposed as such when Wiki closed the door.

johnuno11 · 07-16-2009, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

JuicyAds didn't even make the list? Man you are missing out. Big fucking time missing out. See sig, sign up and check it out already! Its free!

I've used juicy ads and had no success at all. Juicy ads is horrible for conversions. You don't get a good ROI at all and it is a waste!

I'd invest the $10,000 in SEO!

nekrom · 07-16-2009, 02:11 AM

I would spend the money on advertising your site in paysite member mailings & buying spots on blogs operated by webmasters.

I would also avoid all the junk traffic brokers that you see on the forums. With the exception of Ravo that sells decent clicked text link add spots, though most often they are sold out.

-N

Iron Fist · 07-16-2009, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by johnuno11

I've used juicy ads and had no success at all. Juicy ads is horrible for conversions. You don't get a good ROI at all and it is a waste!

I'd invest the $10,000 in SEO!

Look at the sites that are sold out of spots next time and get on the wait list. There is a reason why they're spots are sold out.

JFK · 07-16-2009, 06:26 AM

check my sig pls

woj · 07-16-2009, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CunningStunt

Only in Vegas.

You mainly just write scripts don't you? Are you an active webmaster working the coalface?

Nah, I other stuff besides just writing scripts...

BabeHunter · 07-16-2009, 07:31 AM

Juicy ads all the way.

ravo · 07-16-2009, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by nekrom

I would spend the money on advertising your site in paysite member mailings & buying spots on blogs operated by webmasters.

I would also avoid all the junk traffic brokers that you see on the forums. With the exception of Ravo that sells decent clicked text link add spots, though most often they are sold out.

-N

Thanks for the good words nekrom. I think we have a few of those text link spots open. (but, not not enough for a $10K/month budget, lol!)

notime · 07-16-2009, 07:44 AM

www.ero-advertising.com is not in the list ?
500 million ad views per day

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/avnads...dvertising.com

Pagerank, reach & page views make www.ero-advertising.com belong in this listing IMO

http://www.ero-advertising.com/buying-spaces.php

http://www.ero-advertising.com/stats/traffic.php

http://www.ero-advertising.com/stats/graph.php

Fionag · 07-16-2009, 07:50 AM

i recommend having a chat with wildline

WDG · 07-16-2009, 04:32 PM

A better question would be, What would you do with a $10K marketing budget.

Advertising is only one component of the marketing mix. I think you'd be simply throwing money down the drain spending it only on advertising.

If you want instant results, the Google / Yahoo route would be probably the best option out of those above, load up some campaigns with 200 relevant to your site keywords and away you go.

Good luck!

seeandsee · 07-16-2009, 04:41 PM

Best FEEDER traffic source: TRAFFICSHOP!

We are very careful about sites that send traffic to our system, we work only with quality sites!

LeRoy · 07-16-2009, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnuno11

I've used juicy ads and had no success at all. Juicy ads is horrible for conversions. You don't get a good ROI at all and it is a waste!

I'd invest the $10,000 in SEO!

You did it wrong thats why. Juicy ads have been better than any thing else. We try them all

Except google ads of course.

CamTraffic · 07-16-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BabeHunter

Juicy ads all the way.

aren't you a publisher there?

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07-15-2009, 06:36 PM	#1
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	If you had US$10K per month to spend on ADS, which networks would you go with? I need to ramp an adult site (not predominantly porn) up from a place in the Top 15,000 most visited sites on the planet, to a top 1000 slot. Buying traffic is one way to give it a nudge upwards (not my preference). Where would you put your $? Or what other strategies would you employ? Where else to spend the $? I'm all for guerilla marketing techniques

07-15-2009, 06:46 PM	#2
Nicky Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,069	You only need to ramp up the traffic, no ROI? __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com

07-15-2009, 07:03 PM	#3
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	I'd go with JuicyAds because I can pick individual sites where I want my ad. I can choose based on % of english speaking traffic, # of impressions and/or clicks of current/past ads, etc. Each site in their system gives me info like how many clicks the top ad got and what the average is, % of countries and the cost per click for the ad spot. With JuicyAds, I can also take out a run of the network ad for a specific cost per click. With the individual sites, I pay a flat fee and if I get more clicks than I hoped for, I don't have to pay more. Some sites set their rates as low as .009 per click which gives them low flat per time fees. I can place ads in many various sizes of image as well as text Last edited by spacedog; 07-15-2009 at 07:04 PM..

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WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,461	I'm surprised you didn't put Adwords/Yahoo in there. WG __________________ I play with Google.

07-15-2009, 07:09 PM	#4
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	Traffic Nicky. But I want it targetted traffic, not dross from blind links, or tube type traffic, they are not the kind of surfers I'm after. I am peppering the top 10 in google for 20 or so of my target phrases, so can't do much more on the SEO front. Anyone have experience with JuicyAds? I've never tried them. I'd need run of network, English speaking sites.

07-15-2009, 07:27 PM	#7
RayBonga too cool for highschool Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: East side, West side, Worldwide! Posts: 12,164	build a tube section ;)

07-15-2009, 09:34 PM	#9
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,054	Ugh, every company in that list has garbage low quality traffic

07-15-2009, 09:52 PM	#10
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	Yes, I expected people to say that. I've tried 4 of them over the years with limited success. Looking for a better solution all round really. I was hoping for some intelligent dialogue as to what you'd do with the money instead. I should have worded the question better, my bad.

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Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	JuicyAds didn't even make the list? Man you are missing out. Big fucking time missing out. See sig, sign up and check it out already! Its free! __________________ i like waffles

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nekrom Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Australia/Asia Posts: 921	I would spend the money on advertising your site in paysite member mailings & buying spots on blogs operated by webmasters. I would also avoid all the junk traffic brokers that you see on the forums. With the exception of Ravo that sells decent clicked text link add spots, though most often they are sold out. -N __________________ Free Traffic

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notime Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: cyberspace Posts: 8,021	www.ero-advertising.com is not in the list ? 500 million ad views per day http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/avnads...dvertising.com Pagerank, reach & page views make www.ero-advertising.com belong in this listing IMO http://www.ero-advertising.com/buying-spaces.php http://www.ero-advertising.com/stats/traffic.php http://www.ero-advertising.com/stats/graph.php Last edited by notime; 07-16-2009 at 07:46 AM..

07-16-2009, 07:50 AM	#23
Fionag Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2	i recommend having a chat with wildline

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WDG Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 227	A better question would be, What would you do with a $10K marketing budget. Advertising is only one component of the marketing mix. I think you'd be simply throwing money down the drain spending it only on advertising. If you want instant results, the Google / Yahoo route would be probably the best option out of those above, load up some campaigns with 200 relevant to your site keywords and away you go. Good luck! __________________ We build your dating brand, not ours.

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seeandsee Check SIG! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe (Skype: gojkoas) Posts: 50,945	Best FEEDER traffic source: TRAFFICSHOP! We are very careful about sites that send traffic to our system, we work only with quality sites! __________________ BUY MY SIG - 50$/Year Contact here Last edited by seeandsee; 07-16-2009 at 04:43 PM..