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Old 07-22-2009, 09:03 AM   #1
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Response from KeezMovies to remove my content...

Dave Foster ‎(7:35 AM):
I believe you want some content removed from pornhub and keezmovies... give me the links I'll take care of it asap

amacontent ‎(8:51 AM):
um and who will compesate me for its use
pornhub not a problem they paid well

Dave Foster ‎(8:55 AM):
Look, it's easy... want the videos down, let me know the links, I will gladly take them down... want to fool around and cause problems, go the longer route send a proper cease and decist to [email protected] then we'll verify the you are the rightfull owner of the material and then remove it in a timely manner...just like the law require... lots of content owners hit me up when they find their content on our tube and we always gladly remove it very fast, they stay cool and we even send them business, joins...etc I suggest you do the same

amacontent ‎(9:03 AM):
I dont want your buisness. It people like you guys that are the problem of the industry. Exactly this exactly you. Keep it it online. Ill go the legal route. Youre saying you stole my content and made money off of it. Now you will apologize and take it down since I discovered it. This will go on every message board I can find.
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gotta love the tubes... the day will come.
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:07 AM   #4
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Dave Foster ‎(7:35 AM):
I believe you want some content removed from pornhub and keezmovies... give me the links I'll take care of it asap

amacontent ‎(8:51 AM):
um and who will compesate me for its use
pornhub not a problem they paid well

Dave Foster ‎(8:55 AM):
Look, it's easy... want the videos down, let me know the links, I will gladly take them down... want to fool around and cause problems, go the longer route send a proper cease and decist to [email protected] then we'll verify the you are the rightfull owner of the material and then remove it in a timely manner...just like the law require... lots of content owners hit me up when they find their content on our tube and we always gladly remove it very fast, they stay cool and we even send them business, joins...etc I suggest you do the same

amacontent ‎(9:03 AM):
I dont want your buisness. It people like you guys that are the problem of the industry. Exactly this exactly you. Keep it it online. Ill go the legal route. Youre saying you stole my content and made money off of it. Now you will apologize and take it down since I discovered it. This will go on every message board I can find.
The Dave Foster sounds like a typical fucking thief. I hope you stick it in his worthless ass.
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:09 AM   #6
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a bit delusional aren't we ?
Do you think they give a rat's ass about you posting this on "every message board I can find"
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:18 AM   #8
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a bit delusional aren't we ?
Do you think they give a rat's ass about you posting this on "every message board I can find"
DONT YOU THINK ITS A FUCKING START !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe answers like yours is also the fucking issue.
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Err so you licensed it to pornhub?
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:23 AM   #10
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you guys crack me up... quit trying to fight a war with words.. man up and either start filing lawsuits or pay some kiddies to ddos their sites into oblivion for a few weeks...

all i hear is the same lip service i have been hearing for the last year and guess what..

nothing has changed and the illegal tubes are doing better than ever...
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:23 AM   #11
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:25 AM   #12
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Err so you licensed it to pornhub?
Yes they paid me a long time ago for tube license before I even realized this issues. I regret it but it is what it is.
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you guys crack me up... quit trying to fight a war with words.. man up and either start filing lawsuits or pay some kiddies to ddos their sites into oblivion for a few weeks...

all i hear is the same lip service i have been hearing for the last year and guess what..

nothing has changed and the illegal tubes are doing better than ever...
Won't happen everyone online is just an internet tough guy. That's why tubes are thriving. No one will do shit.
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Won't happen everyone online is just an internet tough guy. That's why tubes are thriving. No one will do shit.
Im not an internet tough guy. Im posting what was responded to me. And me being one of the smaller guys, dont matter Im gonna follow on this best I can, even if no one on GFY here supports me.
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Im not an internet tough guy. Im posting what was responded to me. And me being one of the smaller guys, dont matter Im gonna follow on this best I can, even if no one on GFY here supports me.
You're in the right. You're a good guy, and you don't deserve to get fucked. I like you.

Now - you are also right in saying no one on GFY supports you. All they do is come here and bitch but they won't make an effort to stop anything because they are too lazy and too stupid. If people worked together it would be a different story. No one in adult will rally behind anyone because most people here are idiots/introverts that are really really really stupid (look at donny long for example... these are the people we have to deal with in the industry)

At the end of the day the law is on no ones side. So it comes down to what you will do about someone coming into your home, fucking your dog and leaving with everything you own.
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pay some kiddies to ddos their sites into oblivion for a few weeks...
Rinse and repeat and don't stop....wish I knew how to do this, because I would do it for free just to stick it to a thief
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Yes they paid me a long time ago for tube license before I even realized this issues. I regret it but it is what it is.
Can I sig spot this quote for the next generations to come?
I don't mean to bash here at all, but if you sold it, you sold it right?
So in legal business sense you are now asking for a DMCA with your own client?
It's confusing for gfy readers

Not defending tubes here. Not bashing brokers/producers either.
But make me understand this legal part here only please.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:46 PM   #18
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Rinse and repeat and don't stop....wish I knew how to do this, because I would do it for free just to stick it to a thief
you don't need to know how to do that. Any site with, say, 100,000 uniques a day could kill almost any site in the net in a legal (and shady) way. I won't advocate that, of course, but it's so easy I only can laugh every time the "anti tube warriors" go tough and looking for blood.... and do nothing.

At least AMA is fighting, that's more than you can say about 99.99% of people bitching about tubes
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The DMCA is pretty clear on these things and they seem to be following it. If you want it taken down, you can be nice about it or you can complain and scream. Either way, your content will come down but will take longer. He seemed to be offering you a faster way to get it taken down and was pretty nice about it too.
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redtube was fucked with 40 mil $ for stolen content.Why should not be other scumbags like pornhub or KZ punished as well?
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wow, so they paid to use your content and you are calling them thiefs.
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Im not an internet tough guy. Im posting what was responded to me. And me being one of the smaller guys, dont matter Im gonna follow on this best I can, even if no one on GFY here supports me.
i agree with Joe. That was a horrible response and they do owe him money.

they SHOULD be sued.
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I believe you want some content removed from pornhub and keezmovies... give me the links I'll take care of it asap

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um and who will compesate me for its use
pornhub not a problem they paid well

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Look, it's easy... want the videos down, let me know the links, I will gladly take them down... want to fool around and cause problems, go the longer route send a proper cease and decist to [email protected] then we'll verify the you are the rightfull owner of the material and then remove it in a timely manner...just like the law require... lots of content owners hit me up when they find their content on our tube and we always gladly remove it very fast, they stay cool and we even send them business, joins...etc I suggest you do the same

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I dont want your buisness. It people like you guys that are the problem of the industry. Exactly this exactly you. Keep it it online. Ill go the legal route. Youre saying you stole my content and made money off of it. Now you will apologize and take it down since I discovered it. This will go on every message board I can find.
That's stupid.....Shut the fuck up and let them take the content down....You didn't prove shit except that you're now going to waste unnecessary money to go the "legal route" while you will be nothing more than a gnat buzzing in their ear....
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That's stupid.....Shut the fuck up and let them take the content down....You didn't prove shit except that you're now going to waste unnecessary money to go the "legal route" while you will be nothing more than a gnat buzzing in their ear....
easy for you to say, you pay your models in happy meals, bottles and grams. this guy pays his real $$$ money.
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The DMCA is pretty clear on these things and they seem to be following it. If you want it taken down, you can be nice about it or you can complain and scream. Either way, your content will come down but will take longer. He seemed to be offering you a faster way to get it taken down and was pretty nice about it too.
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The DMCA is pretty clear on these things and they seem to be following it. If you want it taken down, you can be nice about it or you can complain and scream. Either way, your content will come down but will take longer. He seemed to be offering you a faster way to get it taken down and was pretty nice about it too.
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Hey Joe, did you have your videos watermarked properly?
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you guys crack me up... quit trying to fight a war with words.. man up and either start filing lawsuits or pay some kiddies to ddos their sites into oblivion for a few weeks...

all i hear is the same lip service i have been hearing for the last year and guess what..

nothing has changed and the illegal tubes are doing better than ever...
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So pornhub pay you for content and you don't have problem with that?

but keez don't pay and you have problem. I really understand that, but it's not ethics to talk like that.

You are not holly man, because you are also fucking this industry corporating with pornhub, just like many others....

So stop crying and fight for your money. We all know who is keez and pornhub, they have monopol on porn traffic, and they have hunderds of illegall videos on their server, but no body sue them, all want their traffic.

Do it on easy way and they will remove your content for 10 mins. Do it on harder way and they will remove it after 10 days. What you can, to sue them? They will say that video was submited by unknow user...You are only who lose there.

Play this game to win-win, that is only you can do when shit happen

How to you win? Sell them your content , keez also have lot of money.
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easy for you to say, you pay your models in happy meals, bottles and grams. this guy pays his real $$$ money.
Which is why he shouldn't spend even more unnecessary money....

And my hoes like to get paid in rocks.
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Which is why he shouldn't spend even more unnecessary money....

And my hoes like to get paid in rocks.
by the sounds of it, you're a scum bag of the earth...
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Not that it matters to me but neither would probably do any good. As others have said they are abiding by the law so they won't be shutdown. Well they probably aren't considering the owners of those sites are likely paying people to upload pirated content but that's not easily proven. What gets me is 90% or more of the content on the "illegal tubes" is all pirated stuff. Seems kind of strange courts don't seem to get what's going on or maybe they just don't care.

As for the ddos attack there's protection to stop that. I'd bet they've been hit before and already have protection in place.
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Not that it matters to me but neither would probably do any good. As others have said they are abiding by the law so they won't be shutdown. Well they probably aren't considering the owners of those sites are likely paying people to upload pirated content but that's not easily proven. What gets me is 90% or more of the content on the "illegal tubes" is all pirated stuff. Seems kind of strange courts don't seem to get what's going on or maybe they just don't care.

As for the ddos attack there's protection to stop that. I'd bet they've been hit before and already have protection in place.
Are they really abiding by the law? Do you really think all those videos were submitted? Watch as they launch a new tube and magically have tons of other people's content on it by "anonymous" submitters.

I say if you really feel they are stealing from you, play hardball and just go the DDOS route. Much cheaper than attorneys.
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It sucks but you are right. DMCA is a real problem that allows these guys to get away with this shit.
Maybe you guys are just going at this the wrong way. The DMCA might be working to their advantage. However, If it is indeed true that Brazzers is running these tubes and then using them to feed their own pet projects while doing substantial harm to their competition at the same time, then it might be wiser to go at them on the basis that they are involved in a MAJOR organizational conflict of interest. Unlike Google, who can actually argue that their company isn't greatly benefiting from YouTube, I doubt these guys can say that. In fact, it seems pretty obvious that they ARE benefiting greatly if all of their "sponsors" are actually owned by Brazzers too, which it appears that they are.
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Old 07-22-2009, 06:43 PM   #41
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The DMCA is pretty clear on these things and they seem to be following it. If you want it taken down, you can be nice about it or you can complain and scream. Either way, your content will come down but will take longer. He seemed to be offering you a faster way to get it taken down and was pretty nice about it too.
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Yes , very valid point wired guy , but its not about that . not to me. Its about paying me for its usage. You cant get a girl pregnant , then undo it without financial issues. They used it, they made money off, pay for it. One way or another.Legal, or non legal. People need to start to be responsible for thier actions.
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Old 07-22-2009, 06:46 PM   #42
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All of these tube sites...sending traffic to brazzers..killing the traffic to other sites? sounds like a cartel to me lol
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Old 07-22-2009, 06:48 PM   #43
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That's stupid.....Shut the fuck up and let them take the content down....You didn't prove shit except that you're now going to waste unnecessary money to go the "legal route" while you will be nothing more than a gnat buzzing in their ear....
Congrats on backing me up. Just like 80% of others here. Nothing we can do so just forget about it. Remember when blacks couldnt vote. Stupidest moment in our country, racism, but one person started the change amidst all the laughter. Thanks for taking your turn laughing at me.
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Old 07-22-2009, 07:00 PM   #44
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Joe, I wholeheartedly support your effort to stop people from infringing on your content copyrights.

As for licensing to PornHub, perhaps somewhere in the wording of the license you have grounds for terminating their license. Many content licenses put limits on the specific number of pix, or length of clips, which may be used for promotion in a non-members area.

Also, I'm not sure if you are aware, but other Tube sites can embed Pornhub videos on their own sites. Obviously that exacerbates the situation, which is not good for you (ideally, that is a loophole you can use to cancel their license, such as you were unaware that Pornhub was allowing your content to be used on sites other than their own - therefore, they should pay you for all of the other sites your content appears on or have their license terminated).

Otherwise, I know it's not the best option, but perhaps you could refund the money they paid for their license, and then terminate the license.

Good luck!

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Yes , very valid point wired guy , but its not about that . not to me. Its about paying me for its usage. You cant get a girl pregnant , then undo it without financial issues. They used it, they made money off, pay for it. One way or another.Legal, or non legal. People need to start to be responsible for thier actions.
While I agree with you, the DMCA protects them fully and what they're doing is legal so long as they take it down. I know it sucks, but you can blame the people who put the safe harbour clause in the DMCA for that.
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by the sounds of it, you're a scum bag of the earth...
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Didn't know the copyright laws had changed. Someone steals one pic or video and has no release or 2257 paperwork ..seems like its fun for the attorneys and alot of money for you. Do you any of you know how easy it is to win a copyright lawsuite? Its easier than prosecuting someone who just robbed your house right in front of you in broad daylight. If I ran a paysite, I would have a young hungry lawyer suing everyone of them who dared post my copyrighted paid for content. If only a few did that, the problem would soon vanish. Or it might be so lucrative emptying the bank acounts of the thieves that it could be a more profitable endevor...
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Which is why he shouldn't spend even more unnecessary money....

And my hoes like to get paid in rocks.
The way they look, some times they probably have to pay you to fuck them.
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Thanks....I am trying my best to ensure that I have an extra hot spot in hell set aside for me.

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Congrats on backing me up. Just like 80% of others here. Nothing we can do so just forget about it. Remember when blacks couldnt vote. Stupidest moment in our country, racism, but one person started the change amidst all the laughter. Thanks for taking your turn laughing at me.
If I walked into a voting booth during those times and they said that I as a black man was now allowed to vote, I'm not going to mouth off to him asking for my slave reparations.......Now instead of being to just place my vote, I gotta go through the process of changing the constitution.....

Even still, these issues are completely different....
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