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machinegunkelly · 08-08-2009, 09:38 AM

I just wanted to post this in it's own thread, so that any of you that read the other thread know what's up...

Look guys....

This is the situation.

Michael is someone I consider a friend for the last 10 years... and I have a nice debt to him right now, that unfortunately I can't afford to pay back at this time... michael has been getting pretty much free work out of me since I borrowed this money, and sometimes I'm slow to answer him because I have other clients , 3 kids and all sorts of shit going on lately that has totally fucked up my time schedule. when I don't answer him fast enough, he likes to make these threads, I guess he thinks they're funny ... even though I think more of you see the damage they cause more than he does.

This design stuff isn't making me the money it used to, and the adjustment as been very hard on me... My wife is working full time now for a few months, for the first time in 11 years we've been together, and I'm doing the "Mr Mom" stuff all day with my 3 kids...

While all this seemed like it'd work out at the beginning of the summer, it's obvious now that I can't manage to do both design - and be a stay at home father - both are getting done half assed.

Many of you have used me over the years, and know that I generally like to go over the top to please my clients. do extra work and all sorts of stuff when I'm late ( for example , LACE, I did your blog free of charge, and integrated your whole design free of charge because I was a little late in an attempt to make you happy, which didn't seem to work as one part I couldn't make work properly didn't get done... )

I've always given more than I charge for, most clients will tell you I'm great to work with...

Unfortunately lately I have been unable to maintain this standard and it's got me as upset as all of you.

I've been through more financial bullshit in the last 2 years than ever, my boys are growing and it takes 5x the money to survive, but I can't seem to charge 1x the price of what a designs worth lately...

instead of coming on here whoring for work, I've sat back, like a fool and figuired everything would work itself out..

Anyway, I have a tendancy to ramble.. so I'll cut this short, I'm no scammer, I'm not purposely flakey..
I'm a good designer, who's struggling by the skin of his teeth to not let his baby fail, and you know.. maybe I should've walked away from design once the money started dropping, but this is my BABY, this design thing... it's my passion, it's what I love to do, so I've hung on as long as I can and probably more.

On that note, I'm going to end this thread hopefully.. if anyone has had any issues with me this summer, please shoot me an email and I will try to make it right, I will be slow until school starts and I get my kids out of my hair though, so please no rush orders.

On a side note, if anyone that knows me and trusts me wants to pre-order $1k worth of design ( 2 tubes integrated ? ) and isn't in an enormous rush, and would like to pay the money directly to Michael in order to pay this debt so I can get myself out from under his thumb, I'd appreciate it and make sure you leave satisfied ( non time sensitive order only with conditions to be agreed to by both if us before order )

As always, do not ICQ me... I won't answer it and likely won't get it.
email me.

Fletch XXX · 08-08-2009, 09:46 AM

patience is a virtue, we all deal with people who expect you to drop everything you doing and jump on their stuff.

georgeyw · 08-08-2009, 09:47 AM

Mate, i've been dealing with you for years, have spent many thousands of $ with you and have really enjoyed your chats and more so FUCKING LOVED your designs!!!

All I want to say is man the fuck up, no work is free - every single bit of work you do sho8uld deduct from the debt

Keep on pumping out those awesome designs mate, you're a legend in my books - 50 to 100 designs later and i'm still the happiest client of MGK's ever

machinegunkelly · 08-08-2009, 09:47 AM

You had your baby yet fletch ?
must be soon no?

cardinalvices · 08-08-2009, 09:48 AM

bump for a good designer.

Fletch XXX · 08-08-2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by machinegunkelly

You had your baby yet fletch ?
must be soon no?

no my belly is still getting big ;)

joking aside,... just a couple more months, time is flying by. Past the 6th month mark.

good luck man, there is always light at the end of the dark.

machinegunkelly · 08-08-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

no my belly is still getting big ;)

joking aside,... just a couple more months, time is flying by. Past the 6th month mark.

good luck man, there is always light at the end of the dark.

Well, here's an early congrats.

Thanks for the warm words man, means alot coming from you after all the piss we've thrown at each other over the years.

Been tough as hell lately, but I'm hanging on.. even if only barely.

Fletch XXX · 08-08-2009, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by machinegunkelly

Well, here's an early congrats.

Thanks for the warm words man, means alot coming from you after all the piss we've thrown at each other over the years.

Been tough as hell lately, but I'm hanging on.. even if only barely.

thanks and yeah but we put that behind us years ago.

its tough all around right now man, designers are struggling as much as anyone to keep work flowing in, people want to pay bottom dollar for everything, and the impatience of people is at all time high... recipe for disaster, but we keep pushing on.

youll pull through, your talent keeps your name out there.

Brujah · 08-08-2009, 10:03 AM

Good to see you around man, but sorry to hear about the troubles. Considered working in house for someone?

Barefootsies · 08-08-2009, 10:06 AM

Go toss some salads and fire up the bong. Then walk that fucking dog.

machinegunkelly · 08-08-2009, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Good to see you around man, but sorry to hear about the troubles. Considered working in house for someone?

After GTS, I will never ever work inhouse for anyone again.

If someone were to offer me a from home position - I'd be all over it.

machinegunkelly · 08-08-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Go toss some salads and fire up the bong. Then walk that fucking dog.

I don't smoke the bong anymore... almost 10 months clean now.
I don't toss salads,

I hate walking my dog, and I'm not sure why you always post the same thing in regards to me..

machinegunkelly · 08-08-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw

Mate, i've been dealing with you for years, have spent many thousands of $ with you and have really enjoyed your chats and more so FUCKING LOVED your designs!!!

All I want to say is man the fuck up, no work is free - every single bit of work you do sho8uld deduct from the debt

Keep on pumping out those awesome designs mate, you're a legend in my books - 50 to 100 designs later and i'm still the happiest client of MGK's ever

Thanks a million man :D I'm sure we'll do 100 more together too :D

dropped9 · 08-08-2009, 10:23 AM

Tell FHG to go fuck himself.

Fucking faggots not giving a nigga a break

Machete_ · 08-08-2009, 10:27 AM

The header and template design you did for me kicked ass, and I think people should address you as "sir Machinegunkelly"

fris · 08-08-2009, 10:29 AM

kelly has done over 100+ designs for me over the years, its always great working with him, hit me up when you have free time and i will send more work your way

WarChild · 08-08-2009, 10:30 AM

I just want to take the time to step in here and say I haven't had a lot of experience with machinegunkelly, but the work he did do for me was pretty damned good and he went over and above to change all the little things I kept asking for.

I still count you among the best designers in adult Kelly and wish you good luck going forward with the family and work.

georgeyw · 08-08-2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by KrisH

The header and template design you did for me kicked ass, and I think people should address you as "sir Machinegunkelly"

a fucking men!

georgeyw · 08-08-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

I just want to take the time to step in here and say I haven't had a lot of experience with machinegunkelly, but the work he did do for me was pretty damned good and he went over and above to change all the little things I kept asking for.

I still count you among the best designers in adult Kelly and wish you good luck going forward with the family and work.

Now that is something, if someone like WarChild who shits on everyone has something positive to say - the fuckign LISTEN

Barefootsies · 08-08-2009, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by machinegunkelly

I don't smoke the bong anymore... almost 10 months clean now.
I don't toss salads,

I hate walking my dog, and I'm not sure why you always post the same thing in regards to me..

It's called busting your balls. When you did some design work on my tgps 3-4 years back. I would say the same shit to you on IM, and you were always walking that damn dog.

Chill out pal. It was a fucking joke. Christ.

machinegunkelly · 08-08-2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

It's called busting your balls. When you did some design work on my tgps 3-4 years back. I would say the same shit to you on IM, and you were always walking that damn dog.

Chill out pal. It was a fucking joke. Christ.

My bad man, perhaps without my bong my sense of humor isn't what it used to be.

Klen · 08-08-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by machinegunkelly

After GTS, I will never ever work inhouse for anyone again.

If someone were to offer me a from home position - I'd be all over it.

Did something happened there?

machinegunkelly · 08-08-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Did something happened there?

Long, long story.

Basically ends with me no longer trusting anyone to deliver any promise ever when it comes to employment, and never again will I move my family across the province/country/ street for anyone ever again.

MetaMan · 08-08-2009, 10:53 AM

wasnt your wife pink_in_the_middle?

or was that you playing her?

machinegunkelly · 08-08-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

wasnt your wife pink_in_the_middle?

or was that you playing her?

Was, and still is....

She's got a mind of her own ( a very strong, opinionated mind )
and I take no responsiblity for the pissing matches she got into with all of you LOL...

If you think dealing with her on GFY was tough, try living with her LMAO.. you have no idea.

I never " played " her ...she was legitimately herself trust me LOL..
the only person I ever played was " twinkinghard" and I still think that was hilarious and still try to get eric to unban that account from time to time with no success

Sly · 08-08-2009, 10:59 AM

Perhaps you and Michael could create a payment plan so that he gets his money back in regular intervals and you can focus on bringing the money in. Based on your earlier post I am guessing that you owe him $1000? So a plan like $275 a month for the next four months, that would include an extra $100 to him for "interest" and would create some breathing room for you. As you said, once the kids go back to school you will have more time to focus and work.

Zuzana Designs · 08-08-2009, 11:09 AM

MGK Hit me up when you have time. I hate to hear of someone having troubles with a family to take care of and would love to throw some work at you. I have my parents in town for the next 8 days, but would love to chat with you. Your work is top notch and I have always respected you as one of the best designers in this business.

Slappin Fish · 08-08-2009, 11:12 AM

Outsource FHGs designs to the Philippines like others would

That will leave you plenty of time to answer his ICQs

Oh...and like the others said... Kelly is one of the best adult designers out there.

Raf1 · 08-08-2009, 11:23 AM

you're an awesome designer. Just hold on and things will improve after the summer.

digifan · 08-08-2009, 11:37 AM

Yes you are one of the best.. and designers can also have problems, can be sick etc like everyone else. You'd need some rest now, a little money which covers the debt and whatnot.. then you'd be back to work. I wish you all the best, man, you are strong and will win this battle.

machinegunkelly · 08-08-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs

MGK Hit me up when you have time. I hate to hear of someone having troubles with a family to take care of and would love to throw some work at you. I have my parents in town for the next 8 days, but would love to chat with you. Your work is top notch and I have always respected you as one of the best designers in this business.

Will do for sure

I have the kids all weekend myself so will be on and off... I'm also switching ISP's so could be down early in the week, but I will drop you a line for sure.

PurrrsianPussyKat · 08-08-2009, 11:51 AM

Wish you only the best. Just remember.. summer is almost over and soon your kids will be in school. That free's up a lot of work time.

Zuzana Designs · 08-08-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by machinegunkelly

Will do for sure

I have the kids all weekend myself so will be on and off... I'm also switching ISP's so could be down early in the week, but I will drop you a line for sure.

I look forward to hearing from you. Having my parents here and my sons 8th B-day today has taken up so much of my time. But family comes first

I'm always here when you have time to chat.

Libertine · 08-08-2009, 12:40 PM

If income from your design work is dropping, why the hell would you keep focusing on adult? It's not going to get better, it's only going to get worse.

Why not switch to mainstream? Gain a good understanding of WP and Drupal or EZPublish, make one *great* multi-functional theme, give away a basic (but good) version of it, and sell both the standard theme and niche-specific offshoots of it.

Once your name's out there, requests for custom work will start coming in. And the upside of mainstream: unlike in adult, there's no real cap to the prices you can charge for good designs once you have a solid reputation. Get a few NGOs on your client list, and law firms and such will happily pay 10 times as much for design work as clients in adult do.

LadyMischief · 08-08-2009, 12:43 PM

Hit me up when you can man

Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-08-2009, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by machinegunkelly

Was, and still is....

She's got a mind of her own ( a very strong, opinionated mind )
and I take no responsiblity for the pissing matches she got into with all of you LOL...

If you think dealing with her on GFY was tough, try living with her LMAO.. you have no idea.

I never " played " her ...she was legitimately herself trust me LOL..
the only person I ever played was " twinkinghard" and I still think that was hilarious and still try to get eric to unban that account from time to time with no success

holy fucking shit, you married that crazy bitch?

AlCapone · 08-08-2009, 01:28 PM

Hey man, hit me up.

u-Bob · 08-08-2009, 01:33 PM

nothing but respect for MGK here.

fris · 08-08-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet

holy fucking shit, you married that crazy bitch?

You were banned for this type of posts before, Troll somewhere else.

GTS Mark · 08-08-2009, 03:38 PM

Hey Kelly please don't deflect and bring me back into your bullshit. This thread is about YOU not me...

Thanks

brassmonkey · 08-08-2009, 03:44 PM

hey that site u made ratbeef

is that shit real

NoWhErE · 08-08-2009, 03:54 PM

I feel you Kelly, I'm somewhat going through the same thing you are right now.

Couple years ago we did business together and I have nothing but praise for what you did for me. Good luck and keep your head high.

MetaMan · 08-09-2009, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by machinegunkelly

Was, and still is....

She's got a mind of her own ( a very strong, opinionated mind )
and I take no responsiblity for the pissing matches she got into with all of you LOL...

If you think dealing with her on GFY was tough, try living with her LMAO.. you have no idea.

I never " played " her ...she was legitimately herself trust me LOL..
the only person I ever played was " twinkinghard" and I still think that was hilarious and still try to get eric to unban that account from time to time with no success

real nice about your wife trashing me behind my back as i was ordering you fucking faggot.

grumpy · 08-09-2009, 12:16 PM

all those good words, all the work you have done and not been able to bank yet?
Peeps who worked with him before should order some work and prepay him. Shit solved.

lazycash · 08-09-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST

Hey Kelly please don't deflect and bring me back into your bullshit. This thread is about YOU not me...

Thanks

Seems his experience closely parallels a few others who have worked for you in the past.

Platinumpimp · 08-09-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Seems his experience closely parallels a few others who have worked for you in the past.

Ouch!

Best of luck to you MGK.

SleazyDream · 08-09-2009, 02:21 PM

hope things get better for you

Lace · 08-09-2009, 07:22 PM

Kel, you would have been paid to do it, that would have been fine. That was not the problem. The problem was when I last emailed you, I never got a response. I eventually had someone else do it after waiting and waiting. And yes, your prices were very competitive and reasonable, I'll agree with that.

As I've said, you do some great work, was just a little upset about things not being completed. Sorry if that came out wrong before. I totally understand your position and wish you the best of luck with things.

08-08-2009, 09:38 AM	#1
machinegunkelly Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,284	Anyone Seen Machinegunkelly? I just wanted to post this in it's own thread, so that any of you that read the other thread know what's up... Look guys.... This is the situation. Michael is someone I consider a friend for the last 10 years... and I have a nice debt to him right now, that unfortunately I can't afford to pay back at this time... michael has been getting pretty much free work out of me since I borrowed this money, and sometimes I'm slow to answer him because I have other clients , 3 kids and all sorts of shit going on lately that has totally fucked up my time schedule. when I don't answer him fast enough, he likes to make these threads, I guess he thinks they're funny ... even though I think more of you see the damage they cause more than he does. This design stuff isn't making me the money it used to, and the adjustment as been very hard on me... My wife is working full time now for a few months, for the first time in 11 years we've been together, and I'm doing the "Mr Mom" stuff all day with my 3 kids... While all this seemed like it'd work out at the beginning of the summer, it's obvious now that I can't manage to do both design - and be a stay at home father - both are getting done half assed. Many of you have used me over the years, and know that I generally like to go over the top to please my clients. do extra work and all sorts of stuff when I'm late ( for example , LACE, I did your blog free of charge, and integrated your whole design free of charge because I was a little late in an attempt to make you happy, which didn't seem to work as one part I couldn't make work properly didn't get done... ) I've always given more than I charge for, most clients will tell you I'm great to work with... Unfortunately lately I have been unable to maintain this standard and it's got me as upset as all of you. I've been through more financial bullshit in the last 2 years than ever, my boys are growing and it takes 5x the money to survive, but I can't seem to charge 1x the price of what a designs worth lately... instead of coming on here whoring for work, I've sat back, like a fool and figuired everything would work itself out.. Anyway, I have a tendancy to ramble.. so I'll cut this short, I'm no scammer, I'm not purposely flakey.. I'm a good designer, who's struggling by the skin of his teeth to not let his baby fail, and you know.. maybe I should've walked away from design once the money started dropping, but this is my BABY, this design thing... it's my passion, it's what I love to do, so I've hung on as long as I can and probably more. On that note, I'm going to end this thread hopefully.. if anyone has had any issues with me this summer, please shoot me an email and I will try to make it right, I will be slow until school starts and I get my kids out of my hair though, so please no rush orders. On a side note, if anyone that knows me and trusts me wants to pre-order $1k worth of design ( 2 tubes integrated ? ) and isn't in an enormous rush, and would like to pay the money directly to Michael in order to pay this debt so I can get myself out from under his thumb, I'd appreciate it and make sure you leave satisfied ( non time sensitive order only with conditions to be agreed to by both if us before order ) As always, do not ICQ me... I won't answer it and likely won't get it. email me. __________________ dead.

08-08-2009, 09:46 AM	#2
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08-08-2009, 09:47 AM	#3
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08-08-2009, 09:47 AM	#4
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08-08-2009, 09:48 AM	#5
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08-08-2009, 10:03 AM	#9
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08-08-2009, 10:06 AM	#10
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08-08-2009, 10:23 AM	#14
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08-08-2009, 10:27 AM	#15
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08-08-2009, 10:29 AM	#16
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08-08-2009, 10:30 AM	#17
WarChild Let slip the dogs of war. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda Posts: 17,263	I just want to take the time to step in here and say I haven't had a lot of experience with machinegunkelly, but the work he did do for me was pretty damned good and he went over and above to change all the little things I kept asking for. I still count you among the best designers in adult Kelly and wish you good luck going forward with the family and work. __________________ .

08-08-2009, 10:53 AM	#24
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08-08-2009, 10:59 AM	#26
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08-08-2009, 11:09 AM	#27
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08-08-2009, 11:12 AM	#28
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08-08-2009, 11:23 AM	#29
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08-08-2009, 11:37 AM	#30
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08-08-2009, 12:43 PM	#35
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08-08-2009, 01:28 PM	#37
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08-08-2009, 01:33 PM	#38
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08-08-2009, 03:38 PM	#40
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	Hey Kelly please don't deflect and bring me back into your bullshit. This thread is about YOU not me... Thanks

08-08-2009, 03:44 PM	#41
brassmonkey Pay It Forward Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Yo Mama House Posts: 77,225	hey that site u made ratbeef is that shit real __________________ TRUMP 2025 KEKAW!!! - The Laken Riley Act Is Law! DACA ENDED - SUPPORT AZ HCR 2060 52R - email: brassballz-at-techie.com

08-08-2009, 03:54 PM	#42
NoWhErE Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 10,369	I feel you Kelly, I'm somewhat going through the same thing you are right now. Couple years ago we did business together and I have nothing but praise for what you did for me. Good luck and keep your head high. __________________ skype: lordofthecameltoe

08-09-2009, 12:16 PM	#44
grumpy Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 9,870	all those good words, all the work you have done and not been able to bank yet? Peeps who worked with him before should order some work and prepay him. Shit solved. __________________ Don't let greediness blur your vision \| You gotta let some shit slide icq - 441-456-888

08-09-2009, 02:21 PM	#47
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	hope things get better for you __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

08-09-2009, 07:22 PM	#48
Lace Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,116	Kel, you would have been paid to do it, that would have been fine. That was not the problem. The problem was when I last emailed you, I never got a response. I eventually had someone else do it after waiting and waiting. And yes, your prices were very competitive and reasonable, I'll agree with that. As I've said, you do some great work, was just a little upset about things not being completed. Sorry if that came out wrong before. I totally understand your position and wish you the best of luck with things. __________________ Your Paysite Partner Strength In Numbers! StickyDollars \| RadicalCash \| KennysPennies \| HomegrownCash