Without paying for traffic, what work to drive ppl to your site - GoFuckYourself.com

dis0wned · 09-20-2009, 06:14 PM

I was just curious what everyone else out there is using to drive traffic to their sites. I was an seo for a large chocolate producing company in pa. I used my skills of seo on my site, I think I am pretty good in that area. What other methods work (NO SPAMMING)?

Just trying to get some ideas.
Thanks

Iron Fist · 09-20-2009, 06:20 PM

If you were a SEO... wouldn't you already know this answer?

itto · 09-20-2009, 06:27 PM

mmhhhhh.... chocolate!

Semi-Retired-Dave · 09-20-2009, 06:28 PM

Good PR usually works best.

d-null · 09-20-2009, 06:30 PM

mmcfadden · 09-20-2009, 06:34 PM

What is going on with these questions today? How big an seo department did a chocalate factory have?

qxm · 09-20-2009, 06:36 PM

I love clueless SEOs ........ they are sooo amusing ;)

Agent 488 · 09-20-2009, 06:39 PM

welcome to gfy, charlie.

TiltMaster · 09-20-2009, 06:39 PM

lol try making youtube videos or social bookmarking

Iron Fist · 09-20-2009, 06:43 PM

Were you the one responsible for "Hershey Highway"?

fris · 09-20-2009, 06:47 PM

maybe this is why you no longer do "seo" work for them

epitome · 09-20-2009, 06:58 PM

Don't laugh...one time I saw a want ad for a full-time in-house SEO specialist. In Pennsylvania, nonetheless (no, not Hershey)! I really had no idea what it entailed. I scored an interview and spent a day reading up on SEO.

During the interview I mostly talked about how the Florida update was a big game changer (that's why they were hiring somebody -- they lost their page 1 on their main keywords) and even those who knew all about SEO didn't really know much anymore ... I said I was eager to learn and would be in the same boat as anybody else that they hired. It worked and they hired me. Luckily, I ended up doing a good job and they were happy.

My point is that a lot of companies that hire for SEO have no idea what they're looking for. Any good bullshitter can get in the door. It's what you do after getting in the door that matters.

IllTestYourGirls · 09-20-2009, 07:04 PM

Want to sell me your site?

Agent 488 · 09-20-2009, 07:05 PM

skywriting airplanes. business cards left on cars in the wal-mart parking lot. tiny classified ads.

eroticsexxx · 09-20-2009, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488

welcome to gfy, charlie.

dis0wned · 09-20-2009, 07:12 PM

I havent really touched seo work since 01. A lot has changed since then. I am probally already doing everything that most people are going to suggest if not more but I am looking for some new fresh ideas. Every once in a while someone will post a good idea that every person isnt doing already

Barefootsies · 09-20-2009, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qxm

I love clueless SEOs ........ they are sooo amusing ;)

plsureking · 09-20-2009, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dis0wned

I havent really touched seo work since 01. A lot has changed since then.

in 2001 there were maybe 10,000 pro webmasters that knew what SEO meant. 2001 was pre-"googling". you didnt have to do much to get listed or get a lot of traffic. even thehun was still pretty new.

in 2009 there are millions of pro webmasters that all read the same SEO books and all use the same submit forms. there are millions of websites cutting each others throats for a piece of the surfer's dollar.

a friend of mine owns a used cell phone store next to a dirty bus station in thailand. i tell her she's lucky because her competition is limited to her neighboring stores.

online your competition is endless. no boundaries to competition.

SEO is useless. even if u are #1, numbers 2-9 will figure out a way to cut your feet out from under you.

moral of the story, you either have to cut down your competition or read "the long tail" and figure out how to get a piece of everything.

Agent 488 · 09-20-2009, 08:15 PM

tell me more about these submit forms.

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking

in 2009 there are millions of pro webmasters that all read the same SEO books and all use the same submit forms. there are millions of websites cutting each others throats for a piece of the surfer's dollar.

a friend of mine owns a used cell phone store next to a dirty bus station in thailand. i tell her she's lucky because her competition is limited to her neighboring stores.

online your competition is endless. no boundaries to competition.

SEO is useless. even if u are #1, numbers 2-9 will figure out a way to cut your feet out from under you.

moral of the story, you either have to cut down your competition or read "the long tail" and figure out how to get a piece of everything.

LeRoy · 09-20-2009, 08:16 PM

Blogs on free hosts and submitting freesites to Link Lists.

Add your link to the prime spot or close to the enter link

plsureking · 09-20-2009, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488

tell me more about these submit forms.

u can start here
http://www.ineedhits.com/free-tools/free-tools.aspx

Agent 488 · 09-20-2009, 08:24 PM

sweet. a meta tag tool also.

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking

u can start here
http://www.ineedhits.com/free-tools/free-tools.aspx

Robbie · 09-20-2009, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking

even thehun was still pretty new.

The Hun had already been online for close to 5 years in 2001.

plsureking · 09-20-2009, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488

sweet. a meta tag tool also.

ya ive been using that service since at least 2001.
always my first stop to list a domain on the indexes & engines.

plsureking · 09-20-2009, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

The Hun had already been online for close to 5 years in 2001.

clarification: new to surfers.

Robbie · 09-20-2009, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking

clarification: new to surfers.

Sort of....because so many new people were coming online.
But we were trading back and forth for the number one spot on sextracker with The Hun and AL4A back in 1998. The Hun was one of the biggest sites in the world in 2001 and had been for many years.

And as new people were coming online they had already heard of us guys with bigger tgps like The Hun before they even got a computer.

These days though, the first things they type in are tubes and torrents with stolen content.

Anthony · 09-20-2009, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking

clarification: new to surfers.

What surfers are you referring too, as the hun circa 1996 to 2001 was the mother lode of traffic, meaning surfers ALREADY knew that site.

Robbie · 09-20-2009, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony

What surfers are you referring too, as the hun circa 1996 to 2001 was the mother lode of traffic, meaning surfers ALREADY knew that site.

That's what I'm saying.

Iron Fist · 09-20-2009, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

These days though, the first things they type in are tubes and torrents with stolen content.

As much as I'd like to disagree... I have to agree with you.. on one particular site I just made in the last 2-3 weeks just got some terms that included "tube" and my SE traffic tripled overnight.

That is the new reality.

Robbie · 09-20-2009, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead

As much as I'd like to disagree... I have to agree with you.. on one particular site I just made in the last 2-3 weeks just got some terms that included "tube" and my SE traffic tripled overnight.

That is the new reality.

Yep, when I was "Amp" at ampland for 10 years I was a legend in high schools around the world.

And the beauty of it was that they grew up through their teen years jerking off to my tgps. Then when they got older and got a credit card, I was the guy they trusted (all of our tgps are "real" no blindlink circle jerk shit) to finally get to go into a premium members area.

I was clearing 3 grand a day in paysite sales as an affiliate.

Now? Those 15 year old boys are jerking off to full scenes with NO link to the paysite that it came from and instead of anticipating the day that they would finally have a job and a credit card to see everything...they are being taught that "everything" is free and to never pay for a paysite membership again.

These are some effects that we are just now starting to feel as some of those teen viewers reach adulthood and get a credit card and then DON'T buy a membership. It's something that is getting worse as each day goes by and a new teenage boy hears about one of the monster illegit tubes at school.

One more future customer...gone.

plsureking · 09-20-2009, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

That's what I'm saying.

me too lol

Anthony · 09-20-2009, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Yep, when I was "Amp" at ampland for 10 years I was a legend in high schools around the world.

And the beauty of it was that they grew up through their teen years jerking off to my tgps. Then when they got older and got a credit card, I was the guy they trusted (all of our tgps are "real" no blindlink circle jerk shit) to finally get to go into a premium members area.

I was clearing 3 grand a day in paysite sales as an affiliate.

Now? Those 15 year old boys are jerking off to full scenes with NO link to the paysite that it came from and instead of anticipating the day that they would finally have a job and a credit card to see everything...they are being taught that "everything" is free and to never pay for a paysite membership again.

These are some effects that we are just now starting to feel as some of those teen viewers reach adulthood and get a credit card and then DON'T buy a membership. It's something that is getting worse as each day goes by and a new teenage boy hears about one of the monster illegit tubes at school.

One more future customer...gone.

Learn a new thing every day, I never knew you were Amp from Ampland! LOL

AmeliaG · 09-20-2009, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Yep, when I was "Amp" at ampland for 10 years I was a legend in high schools around the world.

And the beauty of it was that they grew up through their teen years jerking off to my tgps. Then when they got older and got a credit card, I was the guy they trusted (all of our tgps are "real" no blindlink circle jerk shit) to finally get to go into a premium members area.

I was clearing 3 grand a day in paysite sales as an affiliate.

Now? Those 15 year old boys are jerking off to full scenes with NO link to the paysite that it came from and instead of anticipating the day that they would finally have a job and a credit card to see everything...they are being taught that "everything" is free and to never pay for a paysite membership again.

These are some effects that we are just now starting to feel as some of those teen viewers reach adulthood and get a credit card and then DON'T buy a membership. It's something that is getting worse as each day goes by and a new teenage boy hears about one of the monster illegit tubes at school.

One more future customer...gone.

I've been reading your posts here for years and never put that together. Doh! You were sweet to me and my content at a time when a lot of TGPs were like "WTF is this goth freakyness". Thanks

AmeliaG · 09-20-2009, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony

Learn a new thing every day, I never knew you were Amp from Ampland! LOL

Well, at least I don't have to feel dumb now

Robbie · 09-20-2009, 11:19 PM

I was the man up until Nov. of 2006

Al and I split our partnership and he has run it for the last couple of years.

Robbie · 09-20-2009, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

I've been reading your posts here for years and never put that together. Doh! You were sweet to me and my content at a time when a lot of TGPs were like "WTF is this goth freakyness". Thanks

yeah, I gave a lot of folks their first big shot of traffic when they started.

The way I've done business with people over the years has served me well right to this very day.

'mo · 09-20-2009, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome

My point is that a lot of companies that hire for SEO have no idea what they're looking for. Any good bullshitter can get in the door. It's what you do after getting in the door that matters.

I would guess that 99% of them have no clue what they are doing. I could probably go into business as a SEO guy and get way better results than most. There are so many different aspects and things to it. But to the OP, if you were a SEO guy, you should know how to drive some traffic.

09-20-2009, 06:20 PM	#2
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	If you were a SEO... wouldn't you already know this answer? __________________ i like waffles

09-20-2009, 06:27 PM	#3
itto Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: world wide Posts: 1,363	mmhhhhh.... chocolate! __________________

09-20-2009, 06:28 PM	#4
Semi-Retired-Dave Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: LA Posts: 11,190	Good PR usually works best. __________________ Support a Good Cause

09-20-2009, 06:30 PM	#5
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	__________________ __________________ Looking for a custom TUBE SCRIPT that supports massive traffic, load balancing, billing support, and h264 encoding? Hit up Konrad! Looking for designs for your websites or custom tubesite design? Hit up Zuzana Designs Check out the #1 WordPress SEO Plugin: CyberSEO Suite

09-20-2009, 06:36 PM	#7
qxm Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NoHo Posts: 5,970	I love clueless SEOs ........ they are sooo amusing ;) __________________ ICQ: 266990876

09-20-2009, 06:14 PM	#1
dis0wned Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 85	Without paying for traffic, what work to drive ppl to your site I was just curious what everyone else out there is using to drive traffic to their sites. I was an seo for a large chocolate producing company in pa. I used my skills of seo on my site, I think I am pretty good in that area. What other methods work (NO SPAMMING)? Just trying to get some ideas. Thanks

09-20-2009, 06:34 PM	#6
mmcfadden So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: philly Posts: 5,099	What is going on with these questions today? How big an seo department did a chocalate factory have?

09-20-2009, 06:39 PM	#8
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	welcome to gfy, charlie.

09-20-2009, 06:39 PM	#9
TiltMaster Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 271	lol try making youtube videos or social bookmarking

09-20-2009, 06:43 PM	#10
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	Were you the one responsible for "Hershey Highway"? __________________ i like waffles

09-20-2009, 06:47 PM	#11
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,372	maybe this is why you no longer do "seo" work for them __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

09-20-2009, 06:58 PM	#12
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,156	Don't laugh...one time I saw a want ad for a full-time in-house SEO specialist. In Pennsylvania, nonetheless (no, not Hershey)! I really had no idea what it entailed. I scored an interview and spent a day reading up on SEO. During the interview I mostly talked about how the Florida update was a big game changer (that's why they were hiring somebody -- they lost their page 1 on their main keywords) and even those who knew all about SEO didn't really know much anymore ... I said I was eager to learn and would be in the same boat as anybody else that they hired. It worked and they hired me. Luckily, I ended up doing a good job and they were happy. My point is that a lot of companies that hire for SEO have no idea what they're looking for. Any good bullshitter can get in the door. It's what you do after getting in the door that matters.

09-20-2009, 07:04 PM	#13
IllTestYourGirls Ah My Balls Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under the gold leaf ICQ 388-454-421 Posts: 14,311	Want to sell me your site? __________________

09-20-2009, 07:05 PM	#14
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	skywriting airplanes. business cards left on cars in the wal-mart parking lot. tiny classified ads.

09-20-2009, 07:12 PM	#16
dis0wned Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 85	I was a seo in 2001 I havent really touched seo work since 01. A lot has changed since then. I am probally already doing everything that most people are going to suggest if not more but I am looking for some new fresh ideas. Every once in a while someone will post a good idea that every person isnt doing already

09-20-2009, 08:16 PM	#20
LeRoy Porn Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: It's a dry heat Posts: 13,341	Blogs on free hosts and submitting freesites to Link Lists. Add your link to the prime spot or close to the enter link __________________ JAPANESE CAMS AND CONTENT SITES Teams - leroy.rowland2 Telegram - @lroddd

09-20-2009, 11:19 PM	#35
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	I was the man up until Nov. of 2006 Al and I split our partnership and he has run it for the last couple of years. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com