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Old 10-20-2009, 09:41 AM   #1
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Rahm Emanuel: Fox News is ?not a news organization so much as it has a perspective.?

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/...-enemies-list/

Fox News On the White House Enemies List
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it's quite impressive how successful rahm and his 2 brothers are.
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I watch Fox News...CNN...MSNBC...BBC...C-span and C-span2. Fox News...is basically an arm of the conservative/Republican party. MSNBC...is basically an arm of the liberal/Democratic party. CNN and BBC have a liberal bias. C-span and C-span2 are the least biased of them all (little if any bias)...and in addition to watching the House and Senate sessions...committee hearings...you are able to see and hear the words out of the "horses mouth" so to speak...via interviews...without the spin the networks place on what was said or done...thus I watch them the most. On the morning show of C-span you also get all of the headline stories from major...and not so major...newspapers across the nation. Also on C-span you get to see interviews with authors of important...and semi important books.
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rahm needs to feed obama's rabble following since they're not actually doing anything.
blame someone.
vast right wing conspiracy and all. haha
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hmmm i mustve missed it, this thread is not about Obama or blaming anyone, or about vast right wing conspiracies... its about whether or not "Fox" is news. LOL
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hmmm i mustve missed it, this thread is not about Obama or blaming anyone, or about vast right wing conspiracies... its about whether or not "Fox" is news. LOL
with your level of intelligence, much is missed.
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with your level of intelligence, much is missed.
LOL i didnt think youd bite.

but you did. Serge was wondering where you been, I pulled you out, glad to see you around buddy.
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hmmm i mustve missed it, this thread is not about Obama or blaming anyone, or about vast right wing conspiracies... its about whether or not "Fox" is news. LOL
Well then, to get back on topic, I vote no. Fox is not news. They put up stories that were in the news, but Fox likes to put up misleading headlines in hopes the minions of brainless Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck nuts will take them and run with it, which, unfortunately many do.

To be fair, Arianna Huffington tends to post some misleading headlines too from time to time, but nothing like the hacks over at fox. I like crooks and liars and factcheck.org personally, but like Theking, I read everything I can get my eyes over and try and find the truth for myself out of all the spin.

I think a person could probably get more news from the daily show actually rather than faux news.
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I think a person could probably get more news from the daily show actually rather than faux news.
LOL i havent watched TV since Hurricane Gustav evacuation (forced to watch news/weather to know when we could return home) and before that it was years so I havent seen Daily Show or Fox in a very long time.

google news is enough fodder for me, I havent been following politics much with my baby coming, no time for that too much...
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LOL i havent watched TV since Hurricane Gustav evacuation and before that it was years so I havent seen Daily Show or Fox in a very long time.

google news is enough fodder for me, I havent been following politics much with my baby coming, no time for that too much...
Damn congrats dude. Didn't know about the little Fletch being in the works.

Back to Fox, the comments section of foxnews.com is disturbing. Silently I hope it's just one crazy guy with a bunch of accounts but...
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Damn congrats dude. Didn't know about the little Fletch being in the works.
Aye, youve been gone for abit havent you? We in the last 30+ days now until due date, wont be long.

and ty for congrats
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Well then, to get back on topic, I vote no. Fox is not news. They put up stories that were in the news, but Fox likes to put up misleading headlines in hopes the minions of brainless Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck nuts will take them and run with it, which, unfortunately many do.

To be fair, Arianna Huffington tends to post some misleading headlines too from time to time, but nothing like the hacks over at fox. I like crooks and liars and factcheck.org personally, but like Theking, I read everything I can get my eyes over and try and find the truth for myself out of all the spin.

I think a person could probably get more news from the daily show actually rather than faux news.
Shepard Smith's news hour on Fox (he is on twice per day) is the closest Fox has to a real (mostly unbiased) news show...everything else is all presented with a very high level of conservative/Republican spin. Glenn Beck is a fruitcake...Hannity is all about hate speech and O'Reilly is all about tabloid journalism.
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They are all biased, Fox all the way to the right, MSNBC all the way at the left, and CNN flutteres in and out of each end, you never know what you are going to get.


I love watching a bit of each and hear the spin of each, it's hilarious watching MSNB interview a Republican senator or Fox interviewing a liberal, the bias is so obvious.

I think they will all have a special spot in Hell come 2012's meltdown.
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These are from the comments under the story about Robert Gibbs. These are the people I fear:

"Mao would certainly be impressed with the director obama and his staff are attempting to move. Government sensorship coming soon to a theater near you."

"Its like everyday life, if you have nothing to hide, why be defensive. Fox is rightfully so bringing to WE The People, things that people are questioning. If Obama and his crew have nothing to hide why doesn't they appear on Fox and set them straight. But they refuse to, so kinda tells you there hiding something."

"Obama is going to attack anyone who doesn't agree with him. He is like a little children who doesn't get way, he trhows a temper tantrum. We really need a spoiled brat like this heading our great nation."

"When will the FCC cancel Fox's license to broadcast? I see it coming. I asked a co-worker when he thought it would happen. He said..."One day before the revolution."

Oh god...please...GET THE STUPID OFF ME!!! QUICK GET SOME WATER!!!!
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When balloon boy was still believed to be sailing high above colorado, I said to someone on ICQ "I bet it is a Fox news ploy because instead of covering Obamas live town hall in philly, all the channels are now covering balloon boy". And ya know what? I was only half-joking at the possibility, lol.
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LOL Fox is pure comedy.

It's like reading the tabloid headlines when you are in line at the supermarket and it seems to be getting better by the day.
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When balloon boy was still believed to be sailing high above colorado, I said to someone on ICQ "I bet it is a Fox news ploy because instead of covering Obamas live town hall in philly, all the channels are now covering balloon boy". And ya know what? I was only half-joking at the possibility, lol.
it wasn't a fox news ploy.
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LOL i didnt think youd bite.

but you did. Serge was wondering where you been, I pulled you out, glad to see you around buddy.
Good job, Fletch!

My personal opinion is that FOX "news" is for the ones with IQ lower than 99.
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seems that no one here actually watches fox news yet everyone here has an opinion on it.
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I flip to it every day at some point. I'll watch it if it's more interesting than the others.

Like right now they have a reporter on evidently "debating" that limited GITMO access raises questions on white house transparency.

Now I say "debate" because you'd expect two sides, but it's just the anchor and a reporter with the banner stating the pretend fact that "GITMO access raises questions on white house transparency."
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These are from the comments under the story about Robert Gibbs. These are the people I fear:

"Mao would certainly be impressed with the director obama and his staff are attempting to move. Government sensorship coming soon to a theater near you."

"Its like everyday life, if you have nothing to hide, why be defensive. Fox is rightfully so bringing to WE The People, things that people are questioning. If Obama and his crew have nothing to hide why doesn't they appear on Fox and set them straight. But they refuse to, so kinda tells you there hiding something."

"Obama is going to attack anyone who doesn't agree with him. He is like a little children who doesn't get way, he trhows a temper tantrum. We really need a spoiled brat like this heading our great nation."

"When will the FCC cancel Fox's license to broadcast? I see it coming. I asked a co-worker when he thought it would happen. He said..."One day before the revolution."

Oh god...please...GET THE STUPID OFF ME!!! QUICK GET SOME WATER!!!!
And those idiots have the right to vote.
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Good lord, they just ran an add for a teaparty organization, rousing up the rabble to their cause! LMAO what a piece of shit they are.
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seems that no one here actually watches fox news yet everyone here has an opinion on it.
I watched Faux news until they made a mockery of the only true conservative in the last election and pushed guys like Huckabee and Romney down our throats. FN and it's fan base are a bunch of neo-con loonies with short term memory loss and bad teeth. I'd be willing to bet my right arm that the vast majority of FN viewers wear wife beaters with beer stains and post comments from their past due AOL dialup account. amirite?

I'm a Goldwater republican btw. ;)
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Fox TV and News is pure entertainment... Fox News shows more boobies than any U.S. news network too!!! You gota support boobies.
I can't keep my eyes off that damn American Morning co-anchor girl Kiran Chetry.



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I watched Faux news until they made a mockery of the only true conservative in the last election and pushed guys like Huckabee and Romney down our throats. FN and it's fan base are a bunch of neo-con loonies with short term memory loss and bad teeth. I'd be willing to bet my right arm that the vast majority of FN viewers wear wife beaters with beer stains and post comments from their past due AOL dialup account. amirite?

I'm a Goldwater republican btw. ;)
i don't know if you are right, generally speaking. as i mentioned, i do watch fox news sunday with chris wallace, i like the roundtable discussion and it includes a couple diehard liberals.

and nina easton gives me wood.

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Shepard Smith's news hour on Fox (he is on twice per day) is the closest Fox has to a real (mostly unbiased) news show...everything else is all presented with a very high level of conservative/Republican spin. Glenn Beck is a fruitcake...Hannity is all about hate speech and O'Reilly is all about tabloid journalism.
Occasionally Shep does show some common sense. The day Beck was coming to FN Shep was the best. Hell, even the black haired guy who isn't Steve Ducie on Fox 'n Friends shows hints that he's sane from time to time.

O'Reilly got started on A Current Affair. Pure tabloid journalism.
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For most viewers/readers I think their perspective on coverage by news organizations breaks down like this:

* If the source they are reading/watching offers information that more or less fits their general political worldview, then it is "objective" and "valid."

* If the source they are reading/watching offers information that does NOT fit their political general worldview, then it is "biased" and "bogus."

The "Truth," such as it is, given our limited ability to perceive and discern it, is very inconvenient for knee-jerk followers, be they left or right wing. Truth has tendency to manifest in ways that are hard to accept for people who tend to view the world through a largely political lens.

Here's a fascinating little social experiment to try out on your most committed liberal and conservative friends: ask them for the names of three mainstream media figures (commentators, news anchors, "experts" and other talking heads) that are on the other end of the political spectrum from themselves, but that they believe to be intellectually honest, and reliable sources of factual information -- not of opinion, just simple, factual information.

In my experience, most really committed followers on the right and left have a very difficult time coming up with those names, or even ONE such name. I personally believe that's because "bias" is a two-way street; an objective listener probably finds it in fewer places than a committed democrat/republican, liberal/conservative listener does, because such listerners respond in a reflexive, negative fashion to information and/or opinion that doesn't "feel right" to them, in terms of their political perspective.

As for whether or not Fox is a "news organization," I'd say it is. All news organizations have their biases, and their agendas; Fox's bias just seems more obvious and glaring because there are so many other sources out there with the opposite bias/agenda, and Fox arguably does an even worse job of giving opposing viewpoints a fair shake than does CNN, CBS, ABC, etc.
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Um, officials in the Bush Admin were banned from MSNBC by the admin.
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For most viewers/readers I think their perspective on coverage by news organizations breaks down like this:

* If the source they are reading/watching offers information that more or less fits their general political worldview, then it is "objective" and "valid."

* If the source they are reading/watching offers information that does NOT fit their political general worldview, then it is "biased" and "bogus."

The "Truth," such as it is, given our limited ability to perceive and discern it, is very inconvenient for knee-jerk followers, be they left or right wing. Truth has tendency to manifest in ways that are hard to accept for people who tend to view the world through a largely political lens.

Here's a fascinating little social experiment to try out on your most committed liberal and conservative friends: ask them for the names of three mainstream media figures (commentators, news anchors, "experts" and other talking heads) that are on the other end of the political spectrum from themselves, but that they believe to be intellectually honest, and reliable sources of factual information -- not of opinion, just simple, factual information.

In my experience, most really committed followers on the right and left have a very difficult time coming up with those names, or even ONE such name. I personally believe that's because "bias" is a two-way street; an objective listener probably finds it in fewer places than a committed democrat/republican, liberal/conservative listener does, because such listerners respond in a reflexive, negative fashion to information and/or opinion that doesn't "feel right" to them, in terms of their political perspective.

As for whether or not Fox is a "news organization," I'd say it is. All news organizations have their biases, and their agendas; Fox's bias just seems more obvious and glaring because there are so many other sources out there with the opposite bias/agenda, and Fox arguably does an even worse job of giving opposing viewpoints a fair shake than does CNN, CBS, ABC, etc.
Very good post.
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White House communications director Anita Dunn complained that “Fox News often operates almost as either the research arm or the communications arm of the Republican Party.” Mind you, this is the same Fox News whose affiliate broke the story of George W. Bush’s DUI just days before the 2000 election.

So Fox is more biased toward Republicans. I see...

And I think CNN is more liberal minded.

But, overall, if you take all media together, I think all media leans towards the liberal side.

And Professors in Colleges often lean on the liberal side, in Canada, anyway.
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For most viewers/readers I think their perspective on coverage by news organizations breaks down like this:

* If the source they are reading/watching offers information that more or less fits their general political worldview, then it is "objective" and "valid."

* If the source they are reading/watching offers information that does NOT fit their political general worldview, then it is "biased" and "bogus."

The "Truth," such as it is, given our limited ability to perceive and discern it, is very inconvenient for knee-jerk followers, be they left or right wing. Truth has tendency to manifest in ways that are hard to accept for people who tend to view the world through a largely political lens.

Here's a fascinating little social experiment to try out on your most committed liberal and conservative friends: ask them for the names of three mainstream media figures (commentators, news anchors, "experts" and other talking heads) that are on the other end of the political spectrum from themselves, but that they believe to be intellectually honest, and reliable sources of factual information -- not of opinion, just simple, factual information.

In my experience, most really committed followers on the right and left have a very difficult time coming up with those names, or even ONE such name. I personally believe that's because "bias" is a two-way street; an objective listener probably finds it in fewer places than a committed democrat/republican, liberal/conservative listener does, because such listerners respond in a reflexive, negative fashion to information and/or opinion that doesn't "feel right" to them, in terms of their political perspective.

As for whether or not Fox is a "news organization," I'd say it is. All news organizations have their biases, and their agendas; Fox's bias just seems more obvious and glaring because there are so many other sources out there with the opposite bias/agenda, and Fox arguably does an even worse job of giving opposing viewpoints a fair shake than does CNN, CBS, ABC, etc.
Really well put.
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It often feels like Glenn Beck is single-handedly trying to save our civilization.
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It often feels like Glenn Beck is single-handedly trying to save our civilization.


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I can't watch FOX or MSNBC. My father has FOX on the tv whenever I visit so I know it all too well.

What happened to Glenn Beck? I remember watching his show from time to time on CNN. Is it just me or did he ratchet it up when he made the switch?
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