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L-Pink · 11-06-2009, 11:54 AM

Stop and-or cut back on foreign aid. In 2008 we spent 28 Billion dollars on other countries. This doesn't include any money spent in Iraq or Afghanistan. With a heavy chunk going to Israel and Egypt.

How about we take care of our own first. Also as a debtor nation we are borrowing money to give away .....

Thoughts?

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Tanker · 11-06-2009, 11:58 AM

yeah we should not be borrowing money to just give it to others! get things fixed locally and then go share some wealth

tiger · 11-06-2009, 01:31 PM

I couldn't agree more.

Stop shipping money to other countries and stop fighting wars (including drug wars), we would have enough money to improve our schools, health care and domestic security.

We would be swimming in money.

Vendzilla · 11-06-2009, 01:41 PM

here's an idea from Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack that would raise enough money in taxes

Maslack read the "militia" phrase of the Second Amendment as not only affirming the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as a clear mandate to do so. He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a "monopoly of force" by the government as well as criminals.

Vermont 's constitution states explicitly that "the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State" and those persons who are "conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms" shall be required to "pay such equivalent." Clearly, says Maslack, Vermonters have a constitutional obligation to arm themselves, so that they are capable of responding to "any situation that may arise."

Under the bill, adults who choose not to own a firearm would be required to register their name, address, Social Security Number, and driver's license number with the state. "There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do so," Maslack says.

Vermont already boasts a high rate of gun ownership along with the least restrictive laws of any state .. it's currently the only state that allows a citizen to carry a concealed firearm without a permit. This combination of plenty of guns and few laws regulating them has resulted in a crime rate that is the third lowest in the nation.

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

kane · 11-06-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

here's an idea from Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack that would raise enough money in taxes

Maslack read the "militia" phrase of the Second Amendment as not only affirming the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as a clear mandate to do so. He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a "monopoly of force" by the government as well as criminals.

Vermont 's constitution states explicitly that "the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State" and those persons who are "conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms" shall be required to "pay such equivalent." Clearly, says Maslack, Vermonters have a constitutional obligation to arm themselves, so that they are capable of responding to "any situation that may arise."

Under the bill, adults who choose not to own a firearm would be required to register their name, address, Social Security Number, and driver's license number with the state. "There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do so," Maslack says.

Vermont already boasts a high rate of gun ownership along with the least restrictive laws of any state .. it's currently the only state that allows a citizen to carry a concealed firearm without a permit. This combination of plenty of guns and few laws regulating them has resulted in a crime rate that is the third lowest in the nation.

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

And this will pay for health care how?

stickyfingerz · 11-06-2009, 01:45 PM

here is how

Libertine · 11-06-2009, 01:45 PM

Development aid as a percentage of gross national income:

Due · 11-06-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

Development aid as a percentage of gross national income:

Common sense tell me to stop spending money that's not required if you do not have the money. Even if there is other people spending more than you.

BlackCrayon · 11-06-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

here's an idea from Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack that would raise enough money in taxes

Maslack read the "militia" phrase of the Second Amendment as not only affirming the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as a clear mandate to do so. He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a "monopoly of force" by the government as well as criminals.

Vermont 's constitution states explicitly that "the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State" and those persons who are "conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms" shall be required to "pay such equivalent." Clearly, says Maslack, Vermonters have a constitutional obligation to arm themselves, so that they are capable of responding to "any situation that may arise."

Under the bill, adults who choose not to own a firearm would be required to register their name, address, Social Security Number, and driver's license number with the state. "There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do so," Maslack says.

Vermont already boasts a high rate of gun ownership along with the least restrictive laws of any state .. it's currently the only state that allows a citizen to carry a concealed firearm without a permit. This combination of plenty of guns and few laws regulating them has resulted in a crime rate that is the third lowest in the nation.

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

..what would that do for taxes?

Libertine · 11-06-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Due

Common sense tell me to stop spending money that's not required if you do not have the money. Even if there is other people spending more than you.

Poverty leads to political instability, which can lead to regional instability and fundamentalist regimes. Also keep in mind that countries like Saudi Arabia give about 4% of their GDP, which greatly increases their political and cultural influence worldwide.

Foreign aid can help in increasing international political stability and developing allies. In the long run, things like those are tremendously valuable when trying to get your way in the international political arena.

Tom_PM · 11-06-2009, 02:12 PM

Isn't it odd in the first place that for some reason people are crying that healthcare reform should be paid for up front, when all the prior spending for a decade or more had no funding in place before it went into effect?
We're an odd people aren't we? lmao

bushwacker · 11-06-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

here's an idea from Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack that would raise enough money in taxes

Maslack read the "militia" phrase of the Second Amendment as not only affirming the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as a clear mandate to do so. He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a "monopoly of force" by the government as well as criminals.

Vermont 's constitution states explicitly that "the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State" and those persons who are "conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms" shall be required to "pay such equivalent." Clearly, says Maslack, Vermonters have a constitutional obligation to arm themselves, so that they are capable of responding to "any situation that may arise."

Under the bill, adults who choose not to own a firearm would be required to register their name, address, Social Security Number, and driver's license number with the state. "There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do so," Maslack says.

Vermont already boasts a high rate of gun ownership along with the least restrictive laws of any state .. it's currently the only state that allows a citizen to carry a concealed firearm without a permit. This combination of plenty of guns and few laws regulating them has resulted in a crime rate that is the third lowest in the nation.

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

mmmmmmkay

Vendzilla · 11-06-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

..what would that do for taxes?

LOL, just charge everyone that doesn't want to own a gun and be part of a militia $5000 a piece, more people would get guns, less crime, less people in prison and there would be less police needed, more money in the economy

PurrrsianPussyKat · 11-06-2009, 06:39 PM

For some reason I don't want the drunk guy who fell over on the sidewalk, yet continues to drink and toss his beer cans around him, packing heat.

(This was a case in my local police beat today. He was charged with drunk and disorderly and scattering rubbish. His empty beer cans. lol)

BlackCrayon · 11-07-2009, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

LOL, just charge everyone that doesn't want to own a gun and be part of a militia $5000 a piece, more people would get guns, less crime, less people in prison and there would be less police needed, more money in the economy

As much as you might love guns there are a number of people who should never be in possesion of one.

The Demon · 11-07-2009, 06:44 PM

This isolationist/protectionist belief has never worked for this country.

directfiesta · 11-07-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

LOL, just charge everyone that doesn't want to own a gun and be part of a militia $5000 a piece, more people would get guns, less crime, less people in prison and there would be less police needed, more money in the economy

your avatar fits you well

LoveSandra · 11-07-2009, 08:07 PM

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here is how

NetHorse · 11-07-2009, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

here is how

That's all we need, more unemployed burnouts

fatfoo · 11-07-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

here is how

Cyber crackdowns are impossible...

Slick · 11-08-2009, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Stop and-or cut back on foreign aid. In 2008 we spent 28 Billion dollars on other countries. This doesn't include any money spent in Iraq or Afghanistan. With a heavy chunk going to Israel and Egypt.

How about we take care of our own first. Also as a debtor nation we are borrowing money to give away .....

Thoughts?

.

I agree with you 100% there. That's just fucking retarded. We're cutting funding across the board for education and all kinds of other programs that help our people out, but yet, we'll give billions of dollars away without thinking about it.

aubreythree · 11-08-2009, 04:04 AM

i couldnt agree it any more!

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Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,200	here's an idea from Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack that would raise enough money in taxes Maslack read the "militia" phrase of the Second Amendment as not only affirming the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as a clear mandate to do so. He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a "monopoly of force" by the government as well as criminals. Vermont 's constitution states explicitly that "the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State" and those persons who are "conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms" shall be required to "pay such equivalent." Clearly, says Maslack, Vermonters have a constitutional obligation to arm themselves, so that they are capable of responding to "any situation that may arise." Under the bill, adults who choose not to own a firearm would be required to register their name, address, Social Security Number, and driver's license number with the state. "There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do so," Maslack says. Vermont already boasts a high rate of gun ownership along with the least restrictive laws of any state .. it's currently the only state that allows a citizen to carry a concealed firearm without a permit. This combination of plenty of guns and few laws regulating them has resulted in a crime rate that is the third lowest in the nation. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

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