Fucking global warming..

[stickyfingerz]

25f for a low tonight... Fuck you Al Gore.

[tony286]

if you knew anything other than pundit crap. you would know global warming isnt just about heat.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by tony404

if you knew anything other than pundit crap. you would know global warming isnt just about heat.

Yup and aquanet was bringing on an ice age, and the forest and soil was all going to end up in the ocean, and acid rain was going to burn off our skin and turn the ocean into a dead waste land, and kill all the trees, and we were all going to burn up and get cancer from the hole in the ozone layer and.... blah blah blah fucking blah.

Another "disaster" another string of government grants to study it. Duh.

[potter]

Originally Posted by tony404

if you knew anything other than pundit crap. you would know global warming isnt just about heat.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Yup and aquanet was bringing on an ice age, and the forest and soil was all going to end up in the ocean, and acid rain was going to burn off our skin and turn the ocean into a dead waste land, and kill all the trees, and we were all going to burn up and get cancer from the hole in the ozone layer and.... blah blah blah fucking blah.

Another "disaster" another string of government grants to study it. Duh.

Some people never learn. Not just government grants but government taxes and the lose of sovereignty.

[asianseekerz]

what the fuck are this!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[aico]

It's fucking hilarious that some idiots still actually think "global warming" literally means getting warmer...

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by aico

It's fucking hilarious that some idiots still actually think "global warming" literally means getting warmer...

Of course not when the facts where there that the earth is starting to cool they change it to "climate change".

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by aico

It's fucking hilarious that some idiots still actually think "global warming" literally means getting warmer...

[Martin]

Global warming is a bunch of BS.

[BlackCrayon]

Hot damn. This is just proof that we can do anything we want and have zero effect on the earth. Awesome.

[pocketkangaroo]

So all the scientists are wrong? The guys who believe the Earth is 6,000 years old are right?

Who'd have thunk it?!

[Martin]

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

So all the scientists are wrong? The guys who believe the Earth is 6,000 years old are right?

Who'd have thunk it?!

Nope they are never wrong. Scientists are outstandingly accurate. ESPECIALLY when it comes to predicting devastating earth disasters... They are even more accurate when it involves billions in grant money every year. It appears that if they don't have something to "study" they don't get that money. Curious ain't it?

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Nope they are never wrong. Scientists are outstandingly accurate. ESPECIALLY when it comes to predicting devastating earth disasters... They are even more accurate when it involves billions in grant money every year. It appears that if they don't have something to "study" they don't get that money. Curious ain't it?

There are billions of dollars in grant money used to study cancer. Is that all made up too?

[papill0n]

Originally Posted by aico

It's fucking hilarious that some idiots still actually think "global warming" literally means getting warmer...

yeah and that everyday will be hotter than the next

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

There are billions of dollars in grant money used to study cancer. Is that all made up too?

lol keep suckin down the koolaid. Do you not remember every few years some new "global issue" that goes on, and nothing ever happens? Come on.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

There are billions of dollars in grant money used to study cancer. Is that all made up too?

What a stupid reply.

It's not that people die and we then hypothesize that "Oh, it must be cancer!". Cancer is a fact, we can actually document it, look at it, remove it, kill it, study it.

Global Warming, or rather Global Climate Change as it's now called, is a theory. The Earth's temperature is cyclic. It has been much hotter than it is now, and it has been cooler too. When the ice receded at the end of the last ice age, was that global warming too? I mean, things got warmer right?

By your logic, the fact that Billions of dollars are spent studying the bible must make it the word of God. Amen brother!

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

lol keep suckin down the koolaid. Do you not remember every few years some new "global issue" that goes on, and nothing ever happens? Come on.

That's what I thought! Cancer is a hoax!

Truthfully, I don't really have an opinion on Global Warming. I'm not a scientist and don't research it much. I trust the opinion of the overwhelming majority of scientists across the globe though. I guess I have more faith in them than those who believe this was reality.

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by WarChild

What a stupid reply.

It's not that people die and we then hypothesize that "Oh, it must be cancer!". Cancer is a fact, we can actually document it, look at it, remove it, kill it, study it.

Global Warming, or rather Global Climate Change as it's now called, is a theory. The Earth's temperature is cyclic. It has been much hotter than it is now, and it has been cooler too. When the ice receded at the end of the last ice age, was that global warming too? I mean, things got warmer right?

By your logic, the fact that Billions of dollars are spent studying the bible must make it the word of God. Amen brother!

He is the one that stated that since scientists received grants for it, it must be a hoax. I simply asked if this was the case for other scientific research that receives a lot of money in grants. You can replace cancer with any other scientific field that takes in research money if you like.

I have no opinion on global warming. I just think it's silly to call every scientist who takes research money a fraud.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

That's what I thought! Cancer is a hoax!

Truthfully, I don't really have an opinion on Global Warming. I'm not a scientist and don't research it much. I trust the opinion of the overwhelming majority of scientists across the globe though. I guess I have more faith in them than those who believe this was reality.

You don't have to believe in god and the bible to believe that mankind really doesn't know much yet about climate conditions on Earth. One has nothign to do with the other.

The "majority of scientists" have been wrong before, like when the general consesus was we were headed for another ice age. That was only 20 years ago and now we've done a complete 180.

Find me a scientist that can accurately predict the weather two months from now and I'll be more inclined to believe his 10 and 20 year predictions.

Besides, by your own words something being studied necessarily makes it true. Probably more is spent researching the bible and religion than on Cancer.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

He is the one that stated that since scientists received grants for it, it must be a hoax. I simply asked if this was the case for other scientific research that receives a lot of money in grants. You can replace cancer with any other scientific field that takes in research money if you like.

I have no opinion on global warming. I just think it's silly to call every scientist who takes research money a fraud.

No, what he's trying to say, but too stupid to effectively communicate is that there is at least some reason why people might promote something they're not aboslutely sure about as being fact, and that's a financial incentive. It's more or less the counter argument for "why would scientists make this stuff up??".

I'm not convinced man contributes significantly to global temperature change. I'm more inclined to think things like the Sun have a much larger effect than we as a species do. I'm willing to admit I could well be wrong. I don't oppose more research, and I think we should absolutely do everything we can do to reduce our footprint on this planet, in every sense. I'm dead against bullshit like carbon taxes though.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

That's what I thought! Cancer is a hoax!

Truthfully, I don't really have an opinion on Global Warming. I'm not a scientist and don't research it much. I trust the opinion of the overwhelming majority of scientists across the globe though. I guess I have more faith in them than those who believe this was reality.

ya cause the only ones that dispute global warming are Creationist believers...

[aico]

Originally Posted by WarChild

What a stupid reply.

It's not that people die and we then hypothesize that "Oh, it must be cancer!". Cancer is a fact, we can actually document it, look at it, remove it, kill it, study it.

Global Warming, or rather Global Climate Change as it's now called, is a theory. The Earth's temperature is cyclic. It has been much hotter than it is now, and it has been cooler too. When the ice receded at the end of the last ice age, was that global warming too? I mean, things got warmer right?

By your logic, the fact that Billions of dollars are spent studying the bible must make it the word of God. Amen brother!

What an even more stupid reply. Global Warming is a fact, it has been documented and studied, look at it:



Sure looks like it's getting warmer to me there Einstein.

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by WarChild

You don't have to believe in god and the bible to believe that mankind really doesn't know much yet about climate conditions on Earth. One has nothign to do with the other.

The "majority of scientists" have been wrong before, like when the general consesus was we were headed for another ice age. That was only 20 years ago and now we've done a complete 180.

Find me a scientist that can accurately predict the weather two months from now and I'll be more inclined to believe his 10 and 20 year predictions.

Besides, by your own words something being studied necessarily makes it true. Probably more is spent researching the bible and religion than on Cancer.

I agree with you. We don't know much about climate conditions on Earth. I thought that was the whole reason we were researching them. To learn more about what is going on. Wouldn't those calling it a hoax fall into the same category as those saying it is happening? Both sides claiming to know the answer to something they don't have enough evidence on.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by aico

What a stupid reply. Global Warming is a fact, it has been documented, looked at, and studied.



Sure looks like it's getting warmer to me there Einstein.

Man made global warming jackass. Try using your brain, just one time.

[aico]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Man made global warming jackass. Try using your brain, just one time.

Sorry, I was trying to think on the same level that you're obviously at, so you could understand.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I agree with you. We don't know much about climate conditions on Earth. I thought that was the whole reason we were researching them. To learn more about what is going on. Wouldn't those calling it a hoax fall into the same category as those saying it is happening? Both sides claiming to know the answer to something they don't have enough evidence on.

And as a matter of fact, how come your graph is missing data from January 2007 to January 2008? Could that be because by all indications the Earth got cooler during that period?

So if the Earth got globally cooler, is it still global warming? No, global climate change now, right?

I'm ready to announce an astounding scientific discovery: The temperature on earth fluctuates!!!

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

He is the one that stated that since scientists received grants for it, it must be a hoax. I simply asked if this was the case for other scientific research that receives a lot of money in grants. You can replace cancer with any other scientific field that takes in research money if you like.

I have no opinion on global warming. I just think it's silly to call every scientist who takes research money a fraud.

I am simply saying that if they disprove their theory they lose their livelyhood. Its in their best interest to keep it going. People DIE from cancer we know its fact. I love all the strawman arguments lol

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

ya cause the only ones that dispute global warming are Creationist believers...

No, but the ones disputing it the most come from the far right. They are also the ones that make up a huge number of the young Earth creationists in this country. Taking science advice from them is like taking stock tips from a psychic.

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by WarChild

And as a matter of fact, how come your graph is missing data from January 2007 to January 2008? Could that be because by all indications the Earth got cooler during that period?

So if the Earth got globally cooler, is it still global warming? No, global climate change now, right?

I'm ready to announce an astounding scientific discovery: The temperature on earth fluctuates!!!

I didn't post a graph to anything. I haven't even argued for global warming.

[aico]

Originally Posted by WarChild

And as a matter of fact, how come your graph is missing data from January 2007 to January 2008? Could that be because by all indications the Earth got cooler during that period?

I guess the 20 year increments were too much for your superior intellect to understand, learn to read a graph you idiot.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I didn't post a graph to anything. I haven't even argued for global warming.

Sorry misquoted you. I meant to quote Aico.

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

I am simply saying that if they disprove their theory they lose their livelyhood. Its in their best interest to keep it going. People DIE from cancer we know its fact. I love all the strawman arguments lol

If they cure cancer tomorrow, they would lose research money too. Are all the scientists in the world collaborating to keep the cure under wraps?

You're going into the argument by stating that if someone has a financial incentive, they must have evil intentions. Most scientists, particularly in this field, don't make a lot of money doing this kind of research. They do it for the love of science. If it was about money, they would be in a field of science that paid big bucks in the private sector. Not diddling around college campuses begging for grants.

[BlackCrayon]

It doesn't matter if global warming is "real" or not. We should still be taking steps to reduce emissions and put more money into clean power/fuel technology.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

If they cure cancer tomorrow, they would lose research money too. Are all the scientists in the world collaborating to keep the cure under wraps?

You're going into the argument by stating that if someone has a financial incentive, they must have evil intentions. Most scientists, particularly in this field, don't make a lot of money doing this kind of research. They do it for the love of science. If it was about money, they would be in a field of science that paid big bucks in the private sector. Not diddling around college campuses begging for grants.

If large car companies can use propaganda, lie, buy out the comp to keep the electric car from being made. Why would not big pharm do the same to keep real cures under raps?

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

It doesn't matter if global warming is "real" or not. We should still be taking steps to reduce emissions and put more money into clean power/fuel technology.

I dont believe man made global warming is real, but I am putting in solar powered heaters into my rental property.

But the problem comes when the government gets involved and wants to tax and take rights away in the name of global freezing, warming, rain forests, marsh lands and so on.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Yup and aquanet was bringing on an ice age, and the forest and soil was all going to end up in the ocean, and acid rain was going to burn off our skin and turn the ocean into a dead waste land, and kill all the trees, and we were all going to burn up and get cancer from the hole in the ozone layer and.... blah blah blah fucking blah.

Another "disaster" another string of government grants to study it. Duh.

Maybe you should look into the global ban on CFC's that actually slowed the Ozone hole before you spew more BS about crap you have no clue about. Sounds like you have been listening to more right wing radio talk show BS.

Then again what else is new, if it wasn't for 10 second sound bites you wouldn't have anything to say.

[Martin]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

It doesn't matter if global warming is "real" or not. We should still be taking steps to reduce emissions and put more money into clean power/fuel technology.

I agree so why spend billions scaring the shit of people screaming the world is going to end and feed us bullshit and just put the money towards that? It's all a load of shit imho.

[aico]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

If large car companies can use propaganda, lie, buy out the comp to keep the electric car from being made. Why would not big pharm do the same to keep real cures under raps?

There was a story, not sure if it's true or not about some guys in Canada who actually found a cure for cancer but they made it so cheap (no patent so anyone could make it, ie. generic) that no pharm company wants it, cuz there is no profit.

The drug is called dichloroacetate (DCA)

[Martin]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

I dont believe man made global warming is real, but I am putting in solar powered heaters into my rental property.

But the problem comes when the government gets involved and wants to tax and take rights away in the name of global freezing, warming, rain forests, marsh lands and so on.

Cheers

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by crockett

Maybe you should look into the global ban on CFC's that actually slowed the Ozone hole before you spew more BS about crap you have no clue about. Sounds like you have been listening to more right wing radio talk show BS.

Then again what else is new, if it wasn't for 10 second sound bites you wouldn't have anything to say.

The global CFC ban was actually supposed to close the hole in the ozone layer, wasn't it?

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

It doesn't matter if global warming is "real" or not. We should still be taking steps to reduce emissions and put more money into clean power/fuel technology.

No one is disputing that.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by WarChild

The global CFC ban was actually supposed to close the hole in the ozone layer, wasn't it?

The ozone layer that they first found in the 50's and didn't change size other than shifting around from time to time?

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

I dont believe man made global warming is real, but I am putting in solar powered heaters into my rental property.

But the problem comes when the government gets involved and wants to tax and take rights away in the name of global freezing, warming, rain forests, marsh lands and so on.

If a company is spewing shit into the atmosphere and the air I breathe, why shouldn't they be regulated and have to pay more in taxes? Why shouldn't we protect specific parts of our environment like rain forests and marsh lands? Heck, it's widely believed that if we didn't fuck up the marshlands down in the Gulf, the Hurricane's impact wouldn't have been nearly as bad.

[pocketkangaroo]

Sticky, why so skeptical of scientists on one issue but completely trusting in others? I don't get it. They are evil manipulators when it comes to climate change, but you trust them with your life in every other aspect of life.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

If a company is spewing shit into the atmosphere and the air I breathe, why shouldn't they be regulated and have to pay more in taxes? Why shouldn't we protect specific parts of our environment like rain forests and marsh lands? Heck, it's widely believed that if we didn't fuck up the marshlands down in the Gulf, the Hurricane's impact wouldn't have been nearly as bad.

Wouldn't of been nearly as bad? Good thing for all the people that died over the history of the gulf when the marshlands were still there. phew..

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/HAW2/english/history.shtml

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by aico

There was a story, not sure if it's true or not about some guys in Canada who actually found a cure for cancer but they made it so cheap (no patent so anyone could make it, ie. generic) that no pharm company wants it, cuz there is no profit.

The drug is called dichloroacetate (DCA)

Ill have to check that out thanks. I know they have done studies with Tibetan Monks and given them stage 3 or 4 breast cancer patient and only let them use a hand full of herbs they wanted to and got the same survival rate as western doctors but then went a head and called the monks a failure.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Sticky, why so skeptical of scientists on one issue but completely trusting in others? I don't get it. They are evil manipulators when it comes to climate change, but you trust them with your life in every other aspect of life.

lol ok. Its called paying attention over history during my short time on this planet. You can only call wolf a few dozen times before people catch on.

[aico]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Sticky, why so skeptical of scientists on one issue but completely trusting in others? I don't get it. They are evil manipulators when it comes to climate change, but you trust them with your life in every other aspect of life.

It has nothing to do with the scientists and everything to do with Al Gore, and Al Gore being a Democrat.