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notime · 12-29-2009, 04:02 PM

http://events.ccc.de/congress/2009/F...s/3654.en.html

http://events.ccc.de/congress/2009/F...n.Nohl.GSM.pdf

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8429233.stm

EscortBiz · 12-29-2009, 04:09 PM

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notime · 12-29-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz

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bbobby86 · 12-29-2009, 05:05 PM

wow.....

ThumbLord · 12-29-2009, 05:20 PM

yep that would be the case.

Fat Panda · 12-29-2009, 05:31 PM

thankfully i'm on cdma

MaDalton · 12-29-2009, 05:39 PM

as if someone would be interested in what i am saying on the phone :P

madawgz · 12-29-2009, 05:43 PM

holy shit, where do i order mine

AIbenjamink · 12-29-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SAC

thankfully i'm on cdma

seeric · 12-29-2009, 05:49 PM

dont do illegal shit on your phone. case closed.

Adraco · 12-29-2009, 06:09 PM

Cellphones on GSM networks has been vulnerable for quite some time. Many meetings I take part in start with everyone removing their batteries from their phone, as a guesture of showing that it's powerless and can't be tapped or tampered with. In those meeting it would be extremely rude not to do that and people wouldn't want to continue the conversation until you also remove your battery.

CDMA is a system almost only used in the US, coverage is usually not better than GSM, and after all, most of the world use GSM systems, go figure for yourself which one is superior.

Should anyone have any illegal shit going on, be sure to stock up on pre paid GSM cards, make your phonecall and then throw away the card, keep doing so, and never use the same number twice, and you have at least made things a little harder to listen in on you or track your whereabouts. But main tip is of course to not do illegail shit at all, period. Except for walking against an occasional red light and maybe speeding a bit every now and then, but those don't count.

LoveSandra · 12-29-2009, 06:20 PM

i like that

rowan · 12-29-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Adraco

CDMA is a system almost only used in the US, coverage is usually not better than GSM, and after all, most of the world use GSM systems, go figure for yourself which one is superior.

Did you mean to say that CDMA coverage IS better than GSM? When CDMA was active in Australia my little cheap and nasty Samsung was able to hold a call with 1 signal bar flashing, while my more mainstream/more expensive GSM phone had trouble even getting a signal, let alone making a reliable call. This was in rural area, of course, and both phones were on the same carrier (so it's likely the base station equipment for both GSM and CDMA was at the same physical location)

CDMA was phased out here a few years ago. I miss it.

Overload · 12-29-2009, 06:38 PM

good that i always refused to get a cell phone ... when i am not at home and someone wants to bla bla ... fuck her/him ... "I" decide if i wanna be available for chats

rowan · 12-29-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Overload

good that i always refused to get a cell phone ... when i am not at home and someone wants to bla bla ... fuck her/him ... "I" decide if i wanna be available for chats

You know that so long as a cell phone is powered on and within range of towers it will transmit to find the best tower to connect to, and in the process reveal its location.

Adraco · 12-29-2009, 09:24 PM

Let's not snag the thread for a technical detail, but CDMA is a sub-par technology for a number of reasons. Again, there is a reason for a strong majority of the worlds cellphone networks to be based upon GSM instead of CDMA. But let's leave it at that, I've sold both systems and had the possibilities of talking to engineers at Ericsson, Nokia and Motorola, who designed and developed both GSM and CDMA. There are technological differences, and GSM almost always comes out on top.

Agent 488 · 12-29-2009, 09:27 PM

good think i stuck with my rotary.

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Adraco Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2009 Location: Onboard an airplane around the globe Posts: 3,735	Cellphones on GSM networks has been vulnerable for quite some time. Many meetings I take part in start with everyone removing their batteries from their phone, as a guesture of showing that it's powerless and can't be tapped or tampered with. In those meeting it would be extremely rude not to do that and people wouldn't want to continue the conversation until you also remove your battery. CDMA is a system almost only used in the US, coverage is usually not better than GSM, and after all, most of the world use GSM systems, go figure for yourself which one is superior. Should anyone have any illegal shit going on, be sure to stock up on pre paid GSM cards, make your phonecall and then throw away the card, keep doing so, and never use the same number twice, and you have at least made things a little harder to listen in on you or track your whereabouts. But main tip is of course to not do illegail shit at all, period. Except for walking against an occasional red light and maybe speeding a bit every now and then, but those don't count.

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Adraco Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2009 Location: Onboard an airplane around the globe Posts: 3,735	Let's not snag the thread for a technical detail, but CDMA is a sub-par technology for a number of reasons. Again, there is a reason for a strong majority of the worlds cellphone networks to be based upon GSM instead of CDMA. But let's leave it at that, I've sold both systems and had the possibilities of talking to engineers at Ericsson, Nokia and Motorola, who designed and developed both GSM and CDMA. There are technological differences, and GSM almost always comes out on top.

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