RUNDOWN of this board for you idiots: ie EscortBiz

[Bman]

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by Holly

I think she's also married to someone in the Mafia so this will probably be the last thread we see from MetaMan.

is that a threat?

[Lord Voldemort]

your point being?

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by Lord Voldemort

your point being?

these people constantly whine how bad GFY is and yet they post here everyday.

dont know about anyone else but when i dislike something i stop using it.

if i go to a club that plays heavy metal and i hate heavy metal im not going to go ask the DJ to play rap music.

If i go because there is alot of pussy then i will shut my mouth about the music because i am going for the pussy not the music.

[amacontent]

The funny thing is Meta Man.. you wouldnt dare say this to EBs face. All youve done is cost gfy a great advertiser. The nail in the coffin so to speak. I may be small potatoes in this biz, but at least im man enough to stand in front of my peers at shows to back up my comments , where as you.. well we all know.

I picture you being 20 - 25 years old, total fucking geek, or over 50 , 300 pounds and disgusting to all women.. hence the hate. You post here to compensate for your lack of manhood. AT least here you can pretend to be 6ft 2 230 lbs and a tough guy.

Now go ahead and post your little hate responses. I dont care.

[Nysus]

If you want entertainment then have a specific forum for the BS or find entertainment elsewhere. It's a waste of time and irritating, as EscortBiz is pointing out.

[amacontent]

BTW why dont you post a pic of yourself. Here ill start. Im no Tom Cruise but Im happy...

[dyna mo]

seems odd eb would throw himself on his sword over metaman.

[Nysus]

Originally Posted by MetaMan

these people constantly whine how bad GFY is and yet they post here everyday.

dont know about anyone else but when i dislike something i stop using it.

if i go to a club that plays heavy metal and i hate heavy metal im not going to go ask the DJ to play rap music.

If i go because there is alot of pussy then i will shut my mouth about the music because i am going for the pussy not the music.

Well no, now they're actually taking it a step up and trying to stop certain people from posting.

It comes down to who the moderators want to keep here. Clearly GFY has been going downhill over the last years, so something has been causing the downturn.

[Nysus]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

seems odd eb would throw himself on his sword over metaman.

I think it's more of a statement and MetaMan is the most recent / most prominent of those type of posters that EB believes is ruining GFY.

[Nysus]

Originally Posted by amacontent

BTW why dont you post a pic of yourself. Here ill start. Im no Tom Cruise but Im happy...

Girl second from the right.. Oh my. Mmm.

[TheAmericanCannibal]

Escort Biz is more stand up than 99% of the people on this board.
I met EB through this board and have to say that I was so impressed with him that he restored my faith in this industry and this board.

If Escortbiz talks- people DO listen.
And he is usually RIGHT

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by Nysus

If you want entertainment then have a specific forum for the BS or find entertainment elsewhere. It's a waste of time and irritating, as EscortBiz is pointing out.

there is an ignore feature for a reason. if someone annoys me i simply ignore them. this goes for regular life also.

so in business your major goal is to make it a popularity contest? i could care less who likes me or who doesnt.

im sure the majority of GFY members found your constant bumps and posts about pr0 to be extremely annoying. i know i did. but that is your business not mine.

Originally Posted by amacontent

BTW why dont you post a pic of yourself. Here ill start. Im no Tom Cruise but Im happy...

you look like a normal guy. i could care less about peoples looks. you can get hot chicks without looks. my post in your other thread was an answer. i may have some rough edges but at least i am honest. the post basically said that i shouldnt be allowed to post without a signature. that is like me saying photographers shouldnt be allowed to post.

if i had posted this you would have also replied saying my point was insane. it is just my opinion. i am not forcing you to accept it.

and i am a good looking guy imo, alot of people here have seen my pics. but i am not posting them. i would rather have people think i am a fat lonely webmaster. it plays into my persona even better.

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal

Escort Biz is more stand up than 99% of the people on this board.
I met EB through this board and have to say that I was so impressed with him that he restored my faith in this industry and this board.

If Escortbiz talks- people DO listen.
And he is usually RIGHT

i never stated they EB is not standup. i personally have nothing against them. EB is telling me how things should be even though she doesnt run this board.

i am stand up also. i have never scammed anyone. i have had clients message me 2 years later asking for help and i will do my best to help. i have lost out on many deals just so the other party can be happy and come to a middle ground.

why should i care about a popularity contest with who and who does not like me?

im sure you know exactly what i mean. your entire persona is based off of this.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by amacontent

Im no Tom Cruise but Im happy...

you certainly come across happy here at gfy.

[amacontent]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

you certainly come across happy here at gfy.

I come across here pissed at people that bring nothing but hate here. At chciken shits that hide behing a screen name and wouldnt dare show thier face at a show.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by amacontent

I come across here pissed at people that bring nothing but hate here. At chciken shits that hide behing a screen name and wouldnt dare show thier face at a show.

see what i mean.

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by Nysus

It comes down to who the moderators want to keep here. Clearly GFY has been going downhill over the last years, so something has been causing the downturn.

MAYBE just MAYBE it could be the adult industry as a whole is in trouble. and MAYBE just MAYBE GFY is where that industry meets.



alot of the old timers cut their losses and have moved on. so how can you expect it to be the same?

but instead of looking at FACTS some of you would rather place blame.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Holly

Definitely. She shared some pictures of her baby with me a few years ago.

I think she's also married to someone in the Mafia so this will probably be the last thread we see from MetaMan.

eb is not a woman. i don't know what kind of games he was playing but there are a number of people who have met him here and know he is not a woman.

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by amacontent

I come across here pissed at people that bring nothing but hate here. At chciken shits that hide behing a screen name and wouldnt dare show thier face at a show.

not to sure if this was directed at me. but ill go to a show one day. i will even say hello to you. i am extremely easy to get along with and laid back. if someone wants to kick my ass im all for it. im non violent myself. i will laugh at them for getting so worked up over a message board and post about it.

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

eb is not a woman. i don't know what kind of games he was playing but there are a number of people who have met him here and know he is not a woman.

dont mind Holly she is very lonely and most likely her dildo does not keep her company. Last time we talked she sent bestiality pics to my email. i kind of laughed but then i kind of cried thinking how sad it was.

[luv$]

Originally Posted by MetaMan

not to sure if this was directed at me. but ill go to a show one day. i will even say hello to you. i am extremely easy to get along with and laid back. if someone wants to kick my ass im all for it. im non violent myself. i will laugh at them for getting so worked up over a message board and post about it.

So... in other words you're just like every other douche that's come and gone who acts like a tough guy but then acts docile and friendly at a show.

What you fail to understand is every time you post one of your degenerate replies aimed directly at pissing someone off or attempting to look cool for god knows who - you're actually writing a little check. What you just admitted is that your ass can't cash any of those checks. From your tone on the boards - I fully expect you to get in peoples' faces at a show.

You are unbelievable. I have NEVER seen anyone on here stand tall as a troll yet back nothing up via proof that they're an actual webmaster in adult AND simultaneously bitch out IN ADVANCE.

WHY IS THIS PERSON ALLOWED ON GFY!? He's not an adult webmaster. He trolls for no reason and no one OTHER than trolls enjoy his posts. You have no anonymity anymore here - everyone knows you're a wannabe and have nothing to offer anyone but words.

IT'S 2010! GTFO if you're not an adult webmaster! Don't talk shit about a biz you're not even in! Don't talk shit to people you can't even relate to and have nothing in common with!

There's some meat for you to troll on - have fun for another 6 hours.











(and btw - what mainstream canadian company actually pays you to post on GFY all day and act like a retard? I wonder if they know you waste so much time on here while at work.)

[arock10]

I wish I had personality

[luv$]

God it is so FUN fucking with you - I gotta get back to working though.

Have fun spending your day trolling on GFY!

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by luv$

So... in other words you're just like every other douche that's come and gone who acts like a tough guy but then acts docile and friendly at a show.

What you fail to understand is every time you post one of your degenerate replies aimed directly at pissing someone off or attempting to look cool for god knows who - you're actually writing a little check. What you just admitted is that your ass can't cash any of those checks. From your tone on the boards - I fully expect you to get in peoples' faces at a show.

You are unbelievable. I have NEVER seen anyone on here stand tall as a troll yet back nothing up via proof that they're an actual webmaster in adult AND simultaneously bitch out IN ADVANCE.

WHY IS THIS PERSON ALLOWED ON GFY!? He's not an adult webmaster. He trolls for no reason and no one OTHER than trolls enjoy his posts. You have no anonymity anymore here - everyone knows you're a wannabe and have nothing to offer anyone but words.

IT'S 2010! GTFO if you're not an adult webmaster! Don't talk shit about a biz you're not even in! Don't talk shit to people you can't even relate to and have nothing in common with!

There's some meat for you to troll on - have fun for another 6 hours.

(and btw - what mainstream canadian company actually pays you to post on GFY all day and act like a retard? I wonder if they know you waste so much time on here while at work.)

trying to ruin Technie Medias rep after 8 years of admitted quality service over $14.95.

[Holly]

Originally Posted by MetaMan

is that a threat?

If you wake up with a horse head in your bed, I'd get a new passport and leave.

[chupachups]

Originally Posted by Sly

Frankly I think we need some of that personality back. It's sort of boring without all of the crazy and bizarre stories and antics. Some characters I enjoyed way more than others.

Word of the day!

[Holly]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

eb is not a woman. i don't know what kind of games he was playing but there are a number of people who have met him here and know he is not a woman.

No, she's for sure a woman. We've swapped girl pictures and she told me how she lost weight so fast after she had her baby. The people you're speaking about probably met one of her husband's associates, to keep her out of the picture.

I've been here a long time and I have more posts than you. I know things.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Holly

No, she's for sure a woman. We've swapped girl pictures and she told me how she lost weight so fast after she had her baby. The people you're speaking about probably met one of her husband's associates, to keep her out of the picture.

I've been here a long time and I have more posts than you. I know things.

pfft i doubt you're even a woman. either way the stuff eb posts, he/she must either be a man or a self hating woman.

[Holly]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

either way the stuff eb posts, he/she must either be a man or a self hating woman.

I'm either a man or a self hating woman, too. I think that's why she and I connected.

[Naughty]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

that was sometime in '03 or '04.. i think.... something about having "bounty hunter resources" or some such shit.

Hahah, he sure has. He helped me find out about soem guy i did bizz with back in 03 or so as well. Knew everything about him in a matter of minutes. Jail/arrests/work history/home and office addresses.

Thought he was great ever since, good people, very friendly. Probably the most trustworthy person on the board (businesswise, do not know him personally).

2c.

[alias]

I like this idea.

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by Holly

If you wake up with a horse head in your bed, I'd get a new passport and leave.

what is this world coming to when the mafia is telling a random on GFY about their business operations?

Holly is business tough that your new job's making threats on someones behalf? what is your email. i may have something for you to work on to get you back into the swing of things.

[halfpint]

I think I missed all the best fun, mind you there are a few memorable personalitys I miss who have beeen banned since I have been here and I have sure had some laughs as well as some WTF and OMGs but that is what makes GFY what it is ..We need more drama, more webmaster catfights and more keyboard warriors I think

[halfpint]

BTW who was the guy that posted those pics of the Japanese woman standing on the kitten with high heels ..That one def sticks in my mind

[CDSmith]

Pulling ads over someone trolling you seems pretty weak to me, but whatever works for you that's what you go with.

[amacontent]

Happy Birthday CD Smith

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Pulling ads over someone trolling you seems pretty weak to me, but whatever works for you that's what you go with.

Weak? Compared to say..

... a couple of dozen industry people declaring they are leaving GFY forever, and then try to get themselves banned by bashing the board and owner, and then crawling back to the board and returning a whopping two months after taking a stand against GFY, tube sites, and theft?

Yeah... kinda like that.

*rolls eyes*

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Pulling ads over someone trolling you seems pretty weak to me, but whatever works for you that's what you go with.

It runs a bit deeper than that.

People complain that GFY is not what it used to be. They bitch about the trolls and surfers turning the place to shit. Recently Eric has been working to clean up the image of GFY and make it a better place for business. I've talked with both Eric and EB about this issue today and as far as I am concerned, this is a VERY easy BUSINESS decision.

Option A: Ban somebody who has trolled GFY for years and who rarely, if ever, posts any business related threads. This option lets you keep a long time GFY sponsor and get rid of somebody who contributes nothing but hate and drama.

Option B: Allow the trolling to continue. This option will cost you thousands of dollars in lost revenue as well as losing a long time member who posts actual business threads and contributes to the overall growth, well being, and true purpose of GFY.

Here we have a company who has dumped 6 figures into GFY ad spots, multiple skins, etc... Those paid spots generate the revenue that lets GFY pay for things like hosting and all the free shit they have given away to webmasters, not to mention commission dollars. I don't care what business you are in, when you loose a major client/sponsor/whatever, YOU LOSE MONEY.

If I buy ad spots from a newspaper and that paper allows an editorial to go to print that bashed my business, me personally, or just harasses me in general....I'm not going to continue to do business with that newspaper. If you think that is weak of me then you have zero business sense yourself.

Back in the day, nobody could compete with GFY. These days there are other options. If an advertiser feels that they no longer want to support a forum that allows people to continuously troll their legitimate threads then they can and will take their advertising dollars elsewhere.

If you have a LEGIT complaint about somebody that's one thing...Post about it all you want as long as you can back up your complaint. This happened to EB about a week ago when somebody made a thread about poor conversions. Did EB pull ads then? Nope.

Standard GFY ad rates are 2.5k per month for top banners and 25k per week for skins. Using those numbers, that means that EB has spent somewhere in the neighborhood of 30k on GFY so far this year. Keep in mind that EB has been advertising here for many years and has skinned GFY multiple times. Why should anybody continue to pay out thousands of dollars to support a forum that allows their paid advertisers to unjustifiably treated like shit?

I like and respect both Eric and EB. I hate to see EB leave GFY but the real tragedy here is that while Eric has been working hard to make GFY a better place for business, GFY has just lost EB's direct business and a member who brings indirect business to the board.

Posting my opinions in this thread could very easily cost me business. Although I hope it does not, I feel the need to stand up for what I believe in. That being said...It is my humble opinion that GFY would be MUCH better off by adapting the rules to cut out the trolls.

I feel sorry for those who say things like: "This is what made GFY what it is today" Truth be told...GFY is complete shit today because these things have been allowed to run rampant for FAR too long. Traffic is down, obviously that means posts and page views are down as well. ADAPT OR DIE.

I'd rather not see GFY die.

[MetaMan]

But Aaron is GFY down because of the posters itself or because of the industry itself?

i am somehow to blame for the collapse of GFY? when times i was away for 6 months the same threads were still started.

i dont even dislike EB he dislikes me. what can i do about it? am i supposed to go around and worry about who likes me and who does not? i am interested in your honest suggestion.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by AaronM

If I buy ad spots from a newspaper and that paper allows an editorial to go to print that bashed my business, me personally, or just harasses me in general....I'm not going to continue to do business with that newspaper. If you think that is weak of me then you have zero business sense yourself.

Well said.

I have said the same thing in other threads as well. Long story short, some of us do business here. We are not going to just sit back and let ourselves or our business get bashed by fry cooks who can sling allegations with nothing to lose.

The rules are simple. Post proof of your claims or be banned.

For far too long people could simply smear people and companies with reckless disregard and would have no accountability for their actions. Eric has been trying to clean that up. It is not easy, and he is making progress. It is just taking some time.

For those who find amusement and entertainment in actual people of this industry being bashed and trolled for personal vendettas, and childish "I don't like him" bullshit. That says more about you, your life, and lack of happiness in it.

There are many people I do not like. There are people who do not like me. However there is a difference. I do not make it a point to post in their threads bashing them all the time. I do not follow them around posting behind them in all of their thread I can find them in. I do not try and smear people I do not like without provocation. I do not try and ruin their business. Nor shit on their B&S threads even when I think they are shit. I do not launch attacks on their sites nor spread lies about them.

None of that makes me any money.

I like EB, even though I do not always agree with s/he opinions. I find MetaMan entertaining. Although he and I personally have not always seen eye to eye either. He has been around and knows about this industry. Which is more than I can say for some of the more recent trolls.

Eric's job is not easy, but I am happy to see he is at least trying.

[luv$]

Originally Posted by MetaMan

But Aaron is GFY down because of the posters itself or because of the industry itself?

i am somehow to blame for the collapse of GFY? when times i was away for 6 months the same threads were still started.

i dont even dislike EB he dislikes me. what can i do about it? am i supposed to go around and worry about who likes me and who does not? i am interested in your honest suggestion.

[JustDaveXxx]

Nice post AronM.

I way agree..



MetaMan is gonna loose this one.

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

Nice post AronM.

I way agree..



MetaMan is gonna loose this one.

im not trying to win anything. i have no need to "win". you people are all so serious.

if they want me gone ill go. ive been a loyal member to GFY i guess that is not enough. it is as usual around here a popularity contest. everyone just hates on me because this popularity contest doesnt affect by bottom line.

i start a business thread i get flamed
i go into a thread and dissect someones design for free flamed
i start a joke thread i get flamed
someone calls me out and because i am willing to finish it i get flamed

haters are going to hate.

[Longboat full of Vikings]

EscortBiz has quit the board at least 3 times, so far.

He is a whiny crybaby.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by MetaMan

haters are going to hate.

True dat BROtha.

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by MetaMan

But Aaron is GFY down because of the posters itself or because of the industry itself?

i am somehow to blame for the collapse of GFY? when times i was away for 6 months the same threads were still started.

i dont even dislike EB he dislikes me. what can i do about it? am i supposed to go around and worry about who likes me and who does not? i am interested in your honest suggestion.

Nobody is single handedly responsible for the loss in traffic. Yes, the state of the industry itself is also a factor. The difference being that GFY has zero control of the entire industry but 100% control of the content posted here. Trolls and surfers detract from business and when people like EB are paying for that business, they should not have to deal with anybody or anything that undermines their marketing efforts.

EB dislikes you because you contribute only negative and smart ass comments to otherwise productive threads.

Here's the thing dude...I have no clue WTF you do in this business or if you are even in the business at all. Maybe you have mentioned it here and maybe you have not....Don't know, don't care. What I do know is that you troll and you troll hard. Until recently you have trolled me for years with nothing but your own opinion of a situation that you were dead wrong about. I absolutely no doubt that your posts have cost me business so I fully understand where EB is coming from. The way I see it, YOU and YOU alone have just cost GFY a valuable member as well as many thoasands fo dollars in lost revenue. Is that your idea of contributing to the "essence" of the board?

[Pipecrew]

Originally Posted by MetaMan

im not trying to win anything. i have no need to "win". you people are all so serious.

if they want me gone ill go. ive been a loyal member to GFY i guess that is not enough. it is as usual around here a popularity contest. everyone just hates on me because this popularity contest doesnt affect by bottom line.

i start a business thread i get flamed
i go into a thread and dissect someones design for free flamed
i start a joke thread i get flamed
someone calls me out and because i am willing to finish it i get flamed

haters are going to hate.

Dude, no offense, have you ever heard the saying "you reap what you sew"

I have been around long enough to remember when you actually posted normal and interesting shit. Somewhere along those lines, you went off the deep end and your last 15-20k posts are complete and utter garbage. I honestly wonder how someone even has the time to even come up with this shit, let alone post it.

Ofcourse nobody is going to take you serious, your bullshit to business thread ratio is 15,000:1

It's never too late to change, but if you want people to start taking you serious again, start acting serious.

[seeric]

in all seriousness, lot's of people just went back to work.

i myself loved fucking around and making funny posts to entertain people with any number of funny characters that we created to contribute to the circus, but when dollars comes to cents, business needs to get done in a time when the markets are changing. that takes time. time is money. posting on boards takes time.

hence, more time working = less time being funny, and/or contributing to gfy in educational ways for some, or trolling ways for some.

regardless of who is who, what you make, or say you make, you ARE affected by the current economic times in some fashion. say you aren't and i bet you can prove to yourself in several ways how you can make more money in the current times if you spent LESS time on boards.

i still come to gfy. gfy still gives me value. i've just learned to imbibe it in a different way. i like what eric's doing. i think it's great. but, as a long time poster i decided to NOT do the educational thing because i now choose to stay out of the spotlight and away from unnecessary trolling. it's just not possible to post here on ANY subject and not get trolled.

people just don't wanna deal with assholes anymore. it's counter productive. as far as the ignore thing, i don't really care to use it. that's my choice.

long live gfy!

i bet this post gets trolled.

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by AaronM

Nobody is single handedly responsible for the loss in traffic. Yes, the state of the industry itself is also a factor. The difference being that GFY has zero control of the entire industry but 100% control of the content posted here. Trolls and surfers detract from business and when people like EB are paying for that business, they should not have to deal with anybody or anything that undermines their marketing efforts.

EB dislikes you because you contribute only negative and smart ass comments to otherwise productive threads.

Here's the thing dude...I have no clue WTF you do in this business or if you are even in the business at all. Maybe you have mentioned it here and maybe you have not....Don't know, don't care. What I do know is that you troll and you troll hard. Until recently you have trolled me for years with nothing but your own opinion of a situation that you were dead wrong about. I absolutely no doubt that your posts have cost me business so I fully understand where EB is coming from. The way I see it, YOU and YOU alone have just cost GFY a valuable member as well as many thoasands fo dollars in lost revenue. Is that your idea of contributing to the "essence" of the board?

Who gets to decide what is positive and what is negative on this board? i have talked to many people where in their opinion YOU have brought a negative essence to the board.

and just like you do not care i do not. we are grown men. should we worry about whos friends we impress? i think not. different groups of people are going to like different people differently.

every person from here i have talked to says they find my posts hilarious. so because you and a select few find my style trolling i should change?

im sorry Aaron but for years and years i saw YOU trolling hard on every single member of GFY except your closest buddies. just because YOUR BUDDIES do not like me i all of a sudden i am the one with the problem? when in reality it is most of YOUR BUDDIES who first threw my name into the mix AND many other members of GFY into the mix. this is where the term "bro club" came from. and then when i go defend myself and take the extra steps to do so i have the problem?

just because a few members do not get along with you or your buddies does not mean they are doing anything wrong. you do not run this place but you act like you are the president here. your title used to be "GFY PRESIDENT".

if you want to know what i do CONTACT ME. i am not a closed book. anyone who has made an effort to even say hello i have not turned away. you dont have to care but if you are not willing to take the extra effort then how am i to blame?

BUT my thought of you HAS changed and i think have been thinking wrong of you. maybe i did. after i saw how you helped Sleazy in all honestly my opinion changed of you. and if i did have a wrong opinion of you then i do apologize if you did in fact lose out on the un named deal. but in all honesty for years u bashed me so i never really found a reason to look into who you are further just as you are doing the same now.

i dont care about being popular. i am an honest webmaster. i am not here to impress a select few. that will never change about me.

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by MetaMan

im not trying to win anything. i have no need to "win". you people are all so serious.

if they want me gone ill go. ive been a loyal member to GFY i guess that is not enough. it is as usual around here a popularity contest. everyone just hates on me because this popularity contest doesnt affect by bottom line.

i start a business thread i get flamed
i go into a thread and dissect someones design for free flamed
i start a joke thread i get flamed
someone calls me out and because i am willing to finish it i get flamed

haters are going to hate.

The thing is, the majority of what I see from you is hate. This makes you the hater not the victim.

You can tell somebody their design sucks ass without using those words. People, myself included, use specific words to generate specific responses. You're not a stupid person and you and I both know that you post what you post to intentionally get people riled up. Then you want to point the finger at them and say they are the haters?

That dog won't hunt.