Kevin Smith booted from plane for being "too fat to fly" - GoFuckYourself.com

Fletch XXX · 02-14-2010, 11:58 AM

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...,5181078.story

Filmmaker Kevin Smith, fresh from delivering a speech at the Macworld Expo in San Francisco, unleashed his fury on Southwest Airlines after the pilot on Smith's flight from Oakland to Burbank ejected him for being "too fat to fly" Saturday evening.

Arnox · 02-14-2010, 12:00 PM

Ahaha. Silent Bob.

AaronM · 02-14-2010, 12:01 PM

Time for a movie about airlines.

Amputate Your Head · 02-14-2010, 12:01 PM

Happens all the time.

EdgeXXX · 02-14-2010, 12:03 PM

Did he gain a lot of weight or something? I mean, he's always been overweight but "too fat to fly" makes me think something along the lines of morbidly obese.

dav3 · 02-14-2010, 12:17 PM

Should the captain really get rid of an extra, potentially vital, flotation device for his plane?

Fat Panda · 02-14-2010, 12:18 PM

what a fat fucking loser

sortie · 02-14-2010, 12:31 PM

Now just kick off all the other ugly motherfuckers who stink with bad breath and I'm flying again. LOL!

Amputate Your Head · 02-14-2010, 12:35 PM

I still wish they'd implement a "Too Fucking Annoying To Fly" policy and start kicking off all the screaming, seat-kicking, snot-nosed, whining goddamned brat children.

First airline to do that will be a massive success.

BV · 02-14-2010, 12:36 PM

Seems like they keep making the seats smaller and smaller.

Fletch XXX · 02-14-2010, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdgeXXX

Did he gain a lot of weight or something? I mean, he's always been overweight but "too fat to fly" makes me think something along the lines of morbidly obese.

the last pics I saw of him he was very obese, and in fact, it was an article about him wanting to diet because he would not see his child grow up or something man. He's done a bunch of interviews about his weight.

$5 submissions · 02-14-2010, 12:54 PM

Talking about being "too fat"--this is very scary: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-meh..._b_447838.html

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 02-14-2010, 01:02 PM

ADG

sicone · 02-14-2010, 01:30 PM

Uh oh.. I'm flying Southwest later in the week

minddust · 02-14-2010, 01:48 PM

I'm hungry

Iron Fist · 02-14-2010, 02:02 PM

Time for a half hour monologue about how fat fucking rich directors should be entitled to fly economy...

Barefootsies · 02-14-2010, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdgeXXX

Did he gain a lot of weight or something? I mean, he's always been overweight but "too fat to fly" makes me think something along the lines of morbidly obese.

Good question? I thought the same.

SBJ · 02-14-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Time for a half hour monologue about how fat fucking rich directors should be entitled to fly economy...

that is the thing, I read his twitter where he said the flight was only half full so space is not the issue. Maybe they knew who he was and first class was empty so they were trying to get him to upgrade and it turned nasty.. I've seen far bigger people than that in one seat on full flights.

BFT3K · 02-14-2010, 02:19 PM

How do you think the airlines make the decision?

By eye?

By overall weight, after the passenger steps on a scale?

Based upon passenger complaints?

Do they decide AFTER the person is in their seat?

Anyone know?

JD · 02-14-2010, 02:34 PM

gotta be something more than just him being fat. I've seen some fat bastards in planes before and after a certain girth they just make you pay for a 2nd seat

NaughtyRob · 02-14-2010, 02:35 PM

Every one of his movies kick ass. I love him.

JP513 · 02-14-2010, 02:47 PM

He's a great director but I'm tired of sitting next to fat fucks whose belly hangs over the armrest into my seat. Those people need to buy a 2nd seat. Case closed. Southwest was right.

Jarmusch · 02-14-2010, 02:50 PM

Kevin should get in touch with this guy to get some tips:

Deej · 02-14-2010, 02:52 PM

thats bullshit!

Plain and simple...

Barefootsies · 02-14-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SBJ

that is the thing, I read his twitter where he said the flight was only half full so space is not the issue. Maybe they knew who he was and first class was empty so they were trying to get him to upgrade and it turned nasty.. I've seen far bigger people than that in one seat on full flights.

I did not see where it said he was sitting in coach?

I guess I had ASSumed that a fancy celebrity would be sitting in first class. If someone is having fatso issues in a wider, more comfortable, first class seat, I think SW has a valid point.

Fat Panda · 02-14-2010, 03:33 PM

the bottom line is this....he's a fat fuck slob, have another twinkie, fat fuck

Jarmusch · 02-14-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

ADG

On second thought, maybe he got booted from the plane for wearing a skirt.

react · 02-14-2010, 08:20 PM

For those with no clue about aviation, Southwest is all economy.

Barefootsies · 02-14-2010, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by react

For those with no clue about aviation, Southwest is all economy.

They do not have Southwest flights in the greater part of the midwest (except Mid Way outside of Chicago). Some handy reading for you.

So I recommend you take your own advice, and go buy yourself a clue. Especially the ASSuming part that people would have this knowledge about a low cost, or economy carrier and their seating, in a market they do not fly to.

pamon · 02-15-2010, 12:22 AM

southwest is facing some dangerous PR on this. ouch

Brujah · 02-15-2010, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions

Talking about being "too fat"--this is very scary: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-meh..._b_447838.html

"Sugar in your blood is like shards of glass scraping the inner lining of your arteries." Damn.

DaddyHalbucks · 02-15-2010, 12:59 AM

Bummer, now he can't eat the airline snack box.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 02-15-2010, 01:04 AM

I saw him in a tv interview not long ago, and he would not quit sweating. he was constantly wiping his face, and going on about how he always sweats profusely.

Matt 26z · 02-15-2010, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pamon

southwest is facing some dangerous PR on this. ouch

Nobody feels sorry for this guy except his fellow tub of lards. Everyone else is just laughing.

02-15-2010, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

They do not have Southwest flights in the greater part of the midwest (except Mid Way outside of Chicago). Some handy reading for you.

So I recommend you take your own advice, and go buy yourself a clue. Especially the ASSuming part that people would have this knowledge about a low cost, or economy carrier and their seating, in a market they do not fly to.

Exactly.

Bird · 02-15-2010, 01:33 AM

They fucked with the wrong that guy has more media advertising pull that all of SWA, Im sure they wish they get sued for millions rather than loos a million flights at $200 bucks a piece.

Whats this Twitter bullshit anyway, Don't people know how to apologize in person.

Sarah_Jayne · 02-15-2010, 04:12 AM

Firstly, let me start this by saying Clerks is my favourite film of all time and I have been a fan of Kevin since it first came out.

Now, that said, Southwest has for a very long time had the rule that if you are over a certain weight you need to buy two seats. I know this because when I was at my highest weight I had to do so with them several times. Well, I didn't *have* to but I did because they made it clear in their company policy that if they thought you were too big and you hadn't already booked two seats and the flight was full you would be bounced. So, I always did just to save the chance of embarrassment and missing a flight.

Each and every time Southwest were very nice about it and highly professional. In exchange, you got priority boarding which meant you get to pick your seat rather than do the rush for a seat that happens for everybody else. It is almost worth paying that extra anyway to not have anybody sitting next to you and not having to be waiting in line to board for ages.

So, my guess is he didn't read the materials and could have just bought a second seat. Which, surely he can afford. Instead he kicked up a fuss.

Also, the last time I saw him in London (like six months ago) smoking weed had become pretty much the focus of his life. So, there is also the possibility that he stunk of that and it added to them wanting to bump him.

nico-t · 02-15-2010, 04:40 AM

good, no place for fat slobs in tiny airplane seats

Raf1 · 02-15-2010, 06:03 AM

whatever the cause, they're getting a lot of bad publicy from this and I don't think it will do them any good.

ShellyCrash · 02-15-2010, 07:19 AM

They keep running a teaser for the story on the morning news but they haven't shown it yet, curious to see what his weight is at currently.

He was on a talk show about a year ago, I want to say Conan but I'm not sure, but I was pretty shocked at how big he had gotten. He said that he was starting a diet though because he sat on a toilet and actually broke it. God, that's gotta suck.

Southwest is a shit airline anyway, but they are cheap. I wonder if they gave him the option to buy two seats and he declined. Seems like someone like him would want to spend the extra $$ just to not have to deal with the situation.

Fletch XXX · 02-15-2010, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K

How do you think the airlines make the decision?

By eye?

By overall weight, after the passenger steps on a scale?

Based upon passenger complaints?

Do they decide AFTER the person is in their seat?

Anyone know?

from what I read, you have to be able to put down the arm rest or something, if you cant, you are booted.

thats just what Ive read in the articles though. He claims he could put arm rest down with no problem.

I jhope he loses the weight, hes good director and I loved most of his stuff except that Amy crap. Although even that had some good dialogu if I recall correctly, I only watched it once and barely did...

seeandsee · 02-15-2010, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...,5181078.story

Filmmaker Kevin Smith, fresh from delivering a speech at the Macworld Expo in San Francisco, unleashed his fury on Southwest Airlines after the pilot on Smith's flight from Oakland to Burbank ejected him for being "too fat to fly" Saturday evening.

jez too much fat

Sarah_Jayne · 02-15-2010, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

from what I read, you have to be able to put down the arm rest or something, if you cant, you are booted.

thats just what Ive read in the articles though. He claims he could put arm rest down with no problem.

I jhope he loses the weight, hes good director and I loved most of his stuff except that Amy crap. Although even that had some good dialogu if I recall correctly, I only watched it once and barely did...

But lose it in a healthy way. In one of his books he talks about the last time he lost it he did one of those liquid only diets and physically didn't eat anything for months. What a shocker it all came back and brought buddies then.

Fletch XXX · 02-15-2010, 07:40 AM

well it seems he bought two seats going there but could only get single seat on way back:

Quote:

Both Smith and the airline acknowledged that he had bought two seats for his original flight from Oakland, where he had spoken at the Macworld Expo conference. But he was flying standby in order to catch an earlier flight, and only one seat was available.

hopefully this embarrassment will cause him to go for the weightloss as he has been saying he needs to lose weight for years now.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/tra...cle7027725.ece

Fletch XXX · 02-15-2010, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

Also, the last time I saw him in London (like six months ago) smoking weed had become pretty much the focus of his life. So, there is also the possibility that he stunk of that and it added to them wanting to bump him.

speculate much? ;) LOL

The airline was not able to give him a second seat on his return flight, had nothing to do with marijuana.

glad to hear he still smokes the medicine though, good for him. ;)

Sarah_Jayne · 02-15-2010, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

speculate much? ;) LOL

The airline was not able to give him a second seat on his return flight, had nothing to do with marijuana.

glad to hear he still smokes the medicine though, good for him. ;)

I have no problem with people smoking. He, himself, said on that night that he nearly didn't come out on stage since he was so stoned. He, himself, has said many times it has taken over his life in many ways. Sure, I was speculating but it wouldn't be out of the line of his current public behaviour.

Fletch XXX · 02-15-2010, 08:18 AM

Well on the subject of smoking marijuana, and even flying with it in California, is perfectly legal to do.

In California you can fly from Oakland to Burbank with weed, legally.

Something tells me if Kevin Smith is an avid pot smoker, the way it is rumored to be so, he has legal medical marijuana card, which means not only can he fly with weed, he can legally "take" his meds before flying and no one can do anything.

Flying with marijuana is not a crime in California if you have med card. I believe you can carry up to a pound with you. The law specifically was made for Oakland folks to fly to SOCAL.

Manowar · 02-15-2010, 08:28 AM

he ate a baaaaby

NetHorse · 02-15-2010, 08:32 AM

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ADG

Damn he looks a lot fatter than I remember...

I think this is fair, what about the guy that had to sit next to his fat-ass? Fuck, if you don't want these kind of problems DON'T GET THAT FAT! It's one thing to be 20-40lbs overweight, but when you start taking up two fucking seats on a plane then you deserve it. Hopefully the embarrassment will force his fatass to stop eating shit food 10 times a day and get on a fucking treadmill. Who knows, maybe southwest saved his life.

dyna mo · 02-15-2010, 08:36 AM

oakland aiport is the ONLY one who has a policy on mm when boarding and it's 8oz max. try and carry 8oz onto an airplane in any other cali airport and you are opening yourself up to serious risk.

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Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Well on the subject of smoking marijuana, and even flying with it in California, is perfectly legal to do. In California you can fly from Oakland to Burbank with weed, legally. Something tells me if Kevin Smith is an avid pot smoker, the way it is rumored to be so, he has legal medical marijuana card, which means not only can he fly with weed, he can legally "take" his meds before flying and no one can do anything. Flying with marijuana is not a crime in California if you have med card. I believe you can carry up to a pound with you. The law specifically was made for Oakland folks to fly to SOCAL. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me Last edited by Fletch XXX; 02-15-2010 at 08:20 AM..

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