Joshua G

the early writing is on the wall.

the tea partys loose platform of anti federalist ideas is basically a purist version of the republican party. As washington republicans have embraced big government, wall street greed & special interest corruption, they opened the door to a new party.

There are some racists & dead enders in the mix, typical of a political party in the embryonic phase. but don't be fooled: If the tea party can bring socially progressive inclusiveness into its tent that can attract independents, say goodbye to the republican party.

Agent 488

the tea party is now controlled by the republicans genius.

Agent 488

was just listening to an interview with one of the tea party's founders. he was pushed out by the republican party and their big party money machinery.

if you think it is now anything more than a repub astroturf party you are extremely naive.

mayabong

The tea party started with ron paul and ended with glenn beck and palin.... I think I've lost hope in politics

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A movement started by The FreedomWorks Foundation will not likely attract "socially progressive inclusiveness"...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-h..._b_186367.html

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Joshua G

the republican party is terminally ill: it betrays its core values. it stands for balanced budgets, but doubled the national debt. it stands for individual liberties, but opposes choice & embraces totalitarianism under the ironic guise of the patriot act. They fucked up so fiercely, the center will not return to their brand name.

It will take a number of years, & most likely it will be ignited by the next financial crisis that is caused by the bankruptcy of the bloated federal government. But if the tea party plays its cards right, they'll be running DC after Obamacare & the baby boomers drive us over the cliff.

Young

I'm assuming you also thought that Ron Paul would be our President?

There hasn't been a viable 3rd party since the Federalists of the 1800's....that's over 200 years.

You're watching entirely too much Fox News if you think the Tea Partiers are going to be running anything in the future. They are a vocal minority that has gotten entirely too much press.

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Vendzilla

Anyone that got kicked out is going to say something like that, true or not.

First, the independent Ross Perot contingent. Then, the liberal "netroots" mobilization. Now, the conservative "tea party" coalition, it's nothing new, people are pissed at the two party system and if you were to pay attention, they have problems with the GOP as a whole

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think about that

epitome

The only reason anyone has heard of that hillbilly movement is because of Fox News giving them a platform.

They are so anti-constitutional it's not even funny. They are not for personal rights except when it comes to the second amendment.

Agent 488

the liberal netroots were fully funded by billionaire liberals like soros and such. aside from the initial impulse there was nothing grassroots about them. i really can't believe americans fall for these phony grassroots movements time and time again like clockwork. your leaders must love you.

slapass

If the Tea party splits the power base of the GOP, then they won't win any elections and everyone will run back to the GOP. It has happened a few times in my life time already.

BFT3K

I predict things get so bad we will have to return to the old midget party.

Remember, you heard it here first...

Joshua G

the republican party was a third party that ran on an anti-slavery platform & eventually replaced the whig party when its leader abraham lincoln won the election in 1860.

LOL at your grasp of history

mayabong

I think ron paul does have a chance if he lives to 2012. He was at the top of the pack in campaign financing when he was running for pres.. he has lots of support, and its growing every day. People fell for obama I dont think they'll do it again.. (unless he does something cool soon). And he did run as a rebublican

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It is my understanding that the position of the majority of those attending tea party events...is a demand to return to the Constitution...and federalism.

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Vendzilla

Where did you get that, seems they want the government to follow the constitution, they formed because of the Stimulus Package, Taxes, thats wht they call themselves the Tea Party, after the boston tea party.
The movement is all over the country, not just hillbillys as you put it, they have a pretty damn big following

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think about that

Vendzilla

back to the Constitution and federalism, that would be a change!

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think about that

Joshua G

the movement is small, young & malleable. just like obama, it brings no history, & therefore brings no baggage, to an election. Both parties run DC the same way, making the door wide open for a third party, one which is the antithesis of the bi-partisan cabal wrecking our nation. Some stars have to align, probably need a billionaire in the spirit of Perot to give it liftoff.

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It has nothing to do with what they stand for (or claim to stand for) or what they actually do when they are in power. It has everything to do with that they can convince people they stand for.

Whenever they are not in power the republicans run on the ticket and promise that they want to shrink the government, lower taxes and give people more personal freedom. Of course when they win they do none of that. Even having never actually done what they claim, they continue to run on that platform and often win using it. They are able to convince the same people over and over again that this time it will be different and it works.

To me the Tea Party is now the new base of the republican party. They have taken over the Tea Party and have embraced angry white America because they have lost their death grip on the Evangelicals. They still have roots with the christian right, but they aren't has strong as they once were save for a few candidates like Palin and Huckabee. Without being able to count on those people they have reached out to a new crowd. There is a reason they don't denounce the Birthers or the people who think Obama is a Muslim. They want their vote in the fall.

While some of the Tea Party members will vote independent and will stand by what they believe, come this fall most of them will vote republican because they will be convinced that the republican candidates are better than nothing. What the party does between now and 2012 is where they can make their name. If they work hard to get Tea Party members elected to local and state positions, form a solid core leadership and fund raise like mad, they could make some noise. Otherwise they are just republicans with a different name.

BIGTYMER

..and whats wrong with the midget party? they got little things done!

mayabong

The tea party started with ron pauls campaign and they all voted for him... they voted republican, not independent

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thanx, thats Briana Banks and Marina Bond, friends of mine

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think about that

Vendzilla

I believe that the country is polarized and the president is a bad leader
We need a balance of left and right
Having a dem president and a GOP senate and house got a lot of good work done
Remember 1994 to 2000?
Had a surplus of cash, no wars and a low unemployment rate

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think about that

Joshua G

I could see Ron Paul switching to the Tea party if it becomes more organized & energized. He's getting no voice with the repubs.

mayabong

Even though the tea party started with him I doubt he'd get on the same stage as beck and palin who are war mongers. Ron paul believes in taking all the troops home from all 140 countries, palin and beck quite the opposite.

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Joshua G

beck & palin are nothing but egomaniacal clowns who are trying to co-opt the movement since they see the future there...Beck will never run for anything, & palin will never win anything but speaking fees.

Brujah

The Republican party will be exactly why the Tea Party loses momentum. The Republicans will just end up destroying it. They're nothing alike. The Libertarian party is closer to the Tea Party movement.

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Joshua G

your point that they are nothing alike is exactly why the repubs will not end up destroying the tea party. as much as the repubs try to bring teabaggers into their tent, its unlikely that will actually happen, especially if the teabags are fielding local & state candidates to run against republicans. That would be the ultimate republican nightmare, & a sign that the end is near for the GOP.

Vendzilla

Given that the libertarians believe in the constitution, I think you're correct that the tea baggers are closer to them, but at the same time, this may be the perfect time for the GOP to adopt some of their goals and get their votes in the process.

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think about that

Agent 488

The Republican party already controls the tea party half wit.

wake up.

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Joshua G

good read:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...generic_ballot

Running under the Tea Party brand may be better in congressional races than being a Republican.

In a three-way Generic Ballot test, the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds Democrats attracting 36% of the vote. The Tea Party candidate picks up 23%, and Republicans finish third at 18%. Another 22% are undecided.

Among voters not affiliated with either major party, the Tea Party comes out on top. Thirty-three percent (33%) prefer the Tea Party candidate, and 30% are undecided. Twenty-five percent (25%) would vote for a Democrat, and just 12% prefer the GOP.

Among Republican voters, 39% say they?d vote for the GOP candidate, but 33% favor the Tea Party option.

For this survey, the respondents were asked to assume that the Tea Party movement organized as a new political party. In practical terms, it is unlikely that a true third-party option would perform as well as the polling data indicates. The rules of the election process?written by Republicans and Democrats--provide substantial advantages for the two established major parties. The more conventional route in the United States is for a potential third-party force to overtake one of the existing parties.

The standard Generic Congressional Ballot shows Republicans holding a modest lead over Democrats. It appears that the policies of the Obama administration and the Democratic Congress are currently enough to unite both those who prefer Republicans and those who prefer the Tea Party route.

Data from the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll shows that just 55% of conservatives nationwide consider themselves Republicans. Recent polling shows that 73% of Republican voters believe their leaders in Washington are out of touch with the party base.

Republican voters are paying a lot more attention to the Tea Party movement than anyone else. Forty-three percent (43%) of GOP voters are following news about the movement Very Closely. Another 30% are following it Somewhat Closely. Just 12% of Democrats are following stories about the Tea Party movement Very Closely.

Seventy percent (70%) of Republican voters have a favorable opinion of the Tea Party movement while only seven percent (7%) offer an unfavorable view. Interestingly, 49% of Democrats have no opinion one way or the other.

Among unaffiliated voters, 43% have a favorable opinion of the Tea Party efforts while 20% say the opposite.

Forty-one percent (41%) of all voters nationwide say Republicans and Democrats are so much alike that a new party is needed to represent the American people. Republicans are evenly divided on this question, while Democrats overwhelmingly disagree. However, among those not affiliated with either major party, 60% agree that a new party is needed, and only 25% disagree. Men are far more likely than women to believe a new party is needed.

As for the voting preference, the Tea Party bests the GOP among both men and women and in all age groups except those over 65.

The Tea Party candidates are the first choice among political conservatives. Among moderates, the Tea Party candidates are more popular than Republicans. However, nearly half of all moderate voters prefer a Democrat.

Among the Political Class, not a single respondent picked the Tea Party candidate.

However, among those with populist or Mainstream views, 31% prefer the Tea Party, and 26% are undecided. Twenty-three percent (23%) pick a Republican candidate, and 19% are for the Democrat (See more on the Political Class-Mainstream divide).

Joshua G

yes...i am convinced...the Tea party will replace the GOP sometime in the next decade. It will not be the republican party consuming the teabaggers. it will be the other way around. The GOP brand is polling so shitty as to be irrecoverable, like IBill, Enron, AIG. & with the tea parties more purist form & lack of baggage, voters that lean republican will inevitably throw their support at the teabaggers.

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"The GOP is dead"

signed, the Tea Party

"We agree"

signed, the Reform Party.

"We agree too!"

signed the Libertarian Party

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Sausage

I like the Tea Party movement, its a start to what is needed with the dirt and filth on both sides, but unfortunately the Tea Party movement is like a toothless man trying to eat an apple .. sure you leave some gum marks but you can't pierce the skin. Its got no bite .. those in power dont give a shit about it and actively ridicule it.

Joshua G

part of my reading on the tea party brings me to the 912 project. That Glenn Beck is like the preacher out of footloose. What a freak. This prediction will be proven wrong if somehow godfreaks enter into the mix.

BFT3K

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